This is what I hate. That security guard was overzelous, and thought that it was a crime to film. Is simply "private property" the reason you can't film? They don't want to tell you the real explanation and purpose of the policy? and if it appears like your just filming your family and friends, they should leave you alone. They can't just grab your camera. Why should I listen to a guard that is rude.
He actually has every right to take the camera. Private property. I am in that line of work as well. I would have just said to stop filming and told you where you could. Too much paperwork for a camera lol
Hey guy. I work security at a mall around Chicago. There are definitely better ways of handling that situation. All I ask is that you know that not all of us are like that.
Malls are private property with public access. The mall might have policies against filming. You could have asked permission and the mall management (in my experience) will usually grant that permission.
Now, why do these security guards act like this? If there was a policy.. he could have simply explained the policy to you. Rather than essentially stealing your camera. Just because they are acting as agents of the property owner it does not give them the right to take away your camera.
I understand your frustration man i do. im with valor security. what he may have you were doing, was filming or taking still photosd of logos of the business's for a commercial reason. Usually if you just explain its a personal film and not for commercial use, you'll be just fine man. Also, unfortunatly he was very unprofessional and could have handled that in a better way.
Did you guys ever stop to think if maybe by ASKING FOR PERMISSION first may be a better way of going about filming there? Oh, wait. What the Hell am I thinking? Of course not! Too many douches anymore don't give a damn about respect in order to use common sense and manners. Private property = their rules. Don't like it find a public street and/or park.
lol, what a bully. "I can confiscate this if I want to" no, actually you can't fuck face. Go do your job ya tubby bastard and call the cops, that's all your good for anyway.
Him saying that he can confiscate your camera because you are "on his property" is similar to saying that I could steal your wallet if you were in my home.
no doubt a horrible parent if he is, but he's probably not and the best he can do is become a security guard with a terrible attitude towards other people, i.e. he's prejudice. you guys handled it well, but next time you could of called the police if he took your camera.
for all skaters out there mall cop and security gurds are like normal everday civilean they have no right to take anything from you if they want to take anyghing don't give it to them let they call the real cops. in this video that security guard could have been brought up on charges if he kept the camera.
and on another note that security guard would have knocked that white of that boy if he tried to snatch his back.
most security are morons....i worked in security for several years....several different places. they pretend to be police but they usually have no clue about the laws ....state or local laws.....search and seizure...officer safety.....case law.....talking to people....etc....
i got out of security cause i was tired of working with stupid people
Private Property versus Public Property. If a Security guard or Caretaker shows up to tell you what's what, it means that you're on Private Property. The only time a peace officer can remove something from your person is if they're detaining you and even then only if you're a danger to yourself or others. You're right, he can't take your camera and technically he can't take your skateboard either. That's considered theft.
Next time, calmly but firmly say, "The mall is opens itself to the public, reducing it's private property right to exclude. If you ask us to leave, we will. But you have no right to touch us or our property." If he does, assault his ass in defense of yourself and your property, just use reasonable force.
I film all the time in random places, and I was filming at the mall one time, mind you, I was not filming in any of the stores, just in the main hallway, no one else was in the frame except myself and my friend, and the guards went CRAZY. It was ridiculous.
@TheRebelSoviet that's because so many people use their cameras to film little kids and up girls skirts.. Also the security guards get a lot of complaints of people taking their picture without permission.
@roymp870 That's true. It's stupid people that ruin it for everyone else. -__- You know? I make sure that no one else is in frame besides myself and my friends, because I don't want to have to deal with people bitching about it.
Hahahaha WTF that security guard always catches me skatin on tha escalators but I wouldn't imagine him doom something like that.but yeea good video Gary
@garrisonboobs I could tell just by the layout of the garage that this was Hillsdale. I guess then I could consider myself lucky that I squeezed in some videos there. But after seeing what happened to you guys I'm planning to stay away from that mall indefinitely.
you speaking as a "rent-a-cop" let alone my districts supervisor, I can tell you all, if they behave this way, demand to see their supervisor.
I won't lie, I cant have skateboarding go on the property where I am, however as I have shown my officers a simple "Hey guys, I can't have ya skating here. move along please." is what I teach to be the best approach. No body likes to be an asshole, but property owners are afraid because if you hurt yourself, your parents can and will sue.
@soymilk43223 i totally understand. I always will leave if someone just says hey no skating please just as you said. i just found it weird that he wanted my camera and not the skateboard which was the whole reason for him going there and kicking us out.
No of course he wanted the Camera, he knows what he did was in violation of his contract with the site owner (Security guards are NOT permitted to touch you, unless they are legally armed security.) He can ask for your name, and for you to move along. But in no way shape or form is he permitted to touch you, your property, nor may the guard detain you. I would re-post this video with the places name in it and link it everywhere to raise a stink.
@soymilk43223 Unless you are a lawyer, you should keep your mouth shut. A security guard as all the rights of a private person to effect an arrest if he witnesses a misdeamor or reasonably believes a felony has occurred.. That's under California Penal Code 837. Furthermore, a security guard is an AGENT of the owner of the property and thereby is legally authorized to enforce any legal rules and policies.. Hillsdale mall is a "Private property with OPEN access to the general public."
Oh I assure you being in LAW SCHOOL, gives me some knowledge, and Cali Code 837 only is under statue of a Felony committed in a public place, and only by a Peace officer. Security guards do NOT have the right to take possessions belonging to a citizen, nor the right to detain unless an offense under code 837 (which skateboarding does not constitute.) Therefore, the guard opens up the mall, the owner and the guard himself to a lawsuit. Let alone the criminal charge of kidnapping.
@roymp870 I dont believe they have the right to take a camera, they can escort you off the property or call the real police but there is no law against photography, even if its prohibited in the mall they can only issue a trespassing order for it..
Many malls really don't want to be filmed--they require a permit for that (lol and, quite often, payment for that permit). Of course, since everyone has a camera on their phone, their rules are kind of stupid.
This is what I hate. That security guard was overzelous, and thought that it was a crime to film. Is simply "private property" the reason you can't film? They don't want to tell you the real explanation and purpose of the policy? and if it appears like your just filming your family and friends, they should leave you alone. They can't just grab your camera. Why should I listen to a guard that is rude.
Spaceshotx7 2 days ago
He actually has every right to take the camera. Private property. I am in that line of work as well. I would have just said to stop filming and told you where you could. Too much paperwork for a camera lol
davidusl 5 days ago
Private property that's all I'll say.
TheJediendar 2 weeks ago
Mall cops are so dumb
geekchic123 2 months ago
That's weird. What rule did he think you'd break?
CarolineSunbright 5 months ago
actually he has no authority to take the kids camera. For once i am in favor of the skater kid.
gman2858 5 months ago
Hey guy. I work security at a mall around Chicago. There are definitely better ways of handling that situation. All I ask is that you know that not all of us are like that.
JTLarson1 6 months ago
I find this hard to watch
TheMarino100 6 months ago
Malls are private property with public access. The mall might have policies against filming. You could have asked permission and the mall management (in my experience) will usually grant that permission.
Now, why do these security guards act like this? If there was a policy.. he could have simply explained the policy to you. Rather than essentially stealing your camera. Just because they are acting as agents of the property owner it does not give them the right to take away your camera.
aeclark82 6 months ago
fuckin idiot you gave it to him, are you a noob er somethin?
DecendKnightsofmalta 7 months ago
I understand your frustration man i do. im with valor security. what he may have you were doing, was filming or taking still photosd of logos of the business's for a commercial reason. Usually if you just explain its a personal film and not for commercial use, you'll be just fine man. Also, unfortunatly he was very unprofessional and could have handled that in a better way.
PoliceExplorer9 7 months ago
Did you guys ever stop to think if maybe by ASKING FOR PERMISSION first may be a better way of going about filming there? Oh, wait. What the Hell am I thinking? Of course not! Too many douches anymore don't give a damn about respect in order to use common sense and manners. Private property = their rules. Don't like it find a public street and/or park.
UnkleMoke 7 months ago
stupid ass nigga
shredder154 8 months ago
lol, what a bully. "I can confiscate this if I want to" no, actually you can't fuck face. Go do your job ya tubby bastard and call the cops, that's all your good for anyway.
MorganMcJiggleson 8 months ago 2
they have 8 ply pieces of wood with fucking metal on them theyre going to bash your fucking skull in mall cops are retarded
GuruBabadesh 9 months ago
1st Mistake - Didn't tell the Rent -a -cop you don't have to show him ID.
2nd mistake - Handing said douche your camera - He hs no right to confiscate it nor do you have to hand it to him.
What Mall is this? I want to go there and film and show you wussies how to handle a schmuck like this wannabe cop security guard.
mi6QBranch 9 months ago
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@mi6QBranch aw shut your pie hole you blowhard pansy! You couldn't beat your way out of a paper bag!
gurumba1 8 months ago
Fucking douchebag.
dante470 9 months ago
Him saying that he can confiscate your camera because you are "on his property" is similar to saying that I could steal your wallet if you were in my home.
KingDavidANC 10 months ago
no doubt a horrible parent if he is, but he's probably not and the best he can do is become a security guard with a terrible attitude towards other people, i.e. he's prejudice. you guys handled it well, but next time you could of called the police if he took your camera.
HackHunters 10 months ago
Dumb fuckin people. Just because its public
Access doesnt mean its not private property. Read a book for once
TWex2121 10 months ago
fuckin rent a cops.. how is it prohibited/private prop. if its a mall?
dyllanmejia 10 months ago
ohh my it had your tra flip on it
MrCichlidguy 11 months ago
for all skaters out there mall cop and security gurds are like normal everday civilean they have no right to take anything from you if they want to take anyghing don't give it to them let they call the real cops. in this video that security guard could have been brought up on charges if he kept the camera.
and on another note that security guard would have knocked that white of that boy if he tried to snatch his back.
hollywoodjokerpicalo 11 months ago
Give the guard a break, stupid skaters.
mitchstonerock 11 months ago
I would of truck fucked that goof and then taken the camera
TY187umkilla 11 months ago
Security Guards are not cops, they are still private citizens. Most likely he could not legally take your camera
johnbowenbrown2 1 year ago
most cops cant stand security......cops usually think security are idiots
PrimericaVeryBroke 1 year ago
im listening to the guard....hes an idiot......he doesnt know what hes doing....nor anything else.
next time call the police and they will deal with him.....after working in security...i cant stand them.....im very biased against them now
PrimericaVeryBroke 1 year ago 2
most security are morons....i worked in security for several years....several different places. they pretend to be police but they usually have no clue about the laws ....state or local laws.....search and seizure...officer safety.....case law.....talking to people....etc....
i got out of security cause i was tired of working with stupid people
PrimericaVeryBroke 1 year ago
is this fake? stupid security
jcbbulloch09 1 year ago
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ATTENTION ALL SKATERS!!
1.) GO OUT AND BUY A CRAP LOAD OF SMALL STICKERS WITH THE LETTER "G" ON THEM (you can get them at home depot)
2.)WHEN YOU SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS "NO SKATEBOARDING", PUT THE G STICKER OVER THE "N" SO IT SAYS "GO SKATEBOARDING"
3.) REPOST THIS ON AS MANY VIDEOS AS YOU CAN SO PEOPLE GET THE IDEA
TheTechdeckdude12 1 year ago
Private Property versus Public Property. If a Security guard or Caretaker shows up to tell you what's what, it means that you're on Private Property. The only time a peace officer can remove something from your person is if they're detaining you and even then only if you're a danger to yourself or others. You're right, he can't take your camera and technically he can't take your skateboard either. That's considered theft.
OgreHammer 1 year ago
typical Black Guy....hate that security guard he baned me from the mall for 3weeks for skating threw the mall on halloween!
skaterkings650 1 year ago
Next time, calmly but firmly say, "The mall is opens itself to the public, reducing it's private property right to exclude. If you ask us to leave, we will. But you have no right to touch us or our property." If he does, assault his ass in defense of yourself and your property, just use reasonable force.
ahjacobson 1 year ago
Sorry, but using the garage for skating videos warrants removal.
Confiscating the camera? No. Illegal. Theft. Blart was dead wrong.
He should've told you to leave, and that's about it.
Worst they can do is get the real cops, and fill out a trespass order.
georgef551 1 year ago
the problem is theft, and you could call the police if he didnt give it back, they can only kick you out, or ask you to stop filming
patricknedz 1 year ago
*dick
avatarpaintballtop 1 year ago
He doesn't have to be such a duck about how he uses his authority
avatarpaintballtop 1 year ago
you guys are pussies shoulda beat his ass
zombiesphere 1 year ago 7
@zombiesphere i wouldve if he took my camera but why bother. then we couldn't go back later haha
garrisonboobs 1 year ago 6
@zombiesphere: you must have been kicked out of the mall many times by your attitude.. lol
roymp870 1 year ago
I film all the time in random places, and I was filming at the mall one time, mind you, I was not filming in any of the stores, just in the main hallway, no one else was in the frame except myself and my friend, and the guards went CRAZY. It was ridiculous.
TheRebelSoviet 1 year ago
@TheRebelSoviet that's because so many people use their cameras to film little kids and up girls skirts.. Also the security guards get a lot of complaints of people taking their picture without permission.
roymp870 1 year ago
@roymp870 That's true. It's stupid people that ruin it for everyone else. -__- You know? I make sure that no one else is in frame besides myself and my friends, because I don't want to have to deal with people bitching about it.
TheRebelSoviet 1 year ago
"that had my tre flip on it " hhahhahaha
manbearpig457 1 year ago
Hahahaha WTF that security guard always catches me skatin on tha escalators but I wouldn't imagine him doom something like that.but yeea good video Gary
IpodTouch293 1 year ago
@eatfriedeggs its the hillsdale mall in san mateo. yea zumiez is like right there
garrisonboobs 1 year ago
@garrisonboobs I could tell just by the layout of the garage that this was Hillsdale. I guess then I could consider myself lucky that I squeezed in some videos there. But after seeing what happened to you guys I'm planning to stay away from that mall indefinitely.
SJSharkWannabe 6 months ago
fuckin rent a cop
trevscoots 1 year ago
@trevscoots you're a fucking loser
roymp870 1 year ago
you speaking as a "rent-a-cop" let alone my districts supervisor, I can tell you all, if they behave this way, demand to see their supervisor.
I won't lie, I cant have skateboarding go on the property where I am, however as I have shown my officers a simple "Hey guys, I can't have ya skating here. move along please." is what I teach to be the best approach. No body likes to be an asshole, but property owners are afraid because if you hurt yourself, your parents can and will sue.
soymilk43223 1 year ago
@soymilk43223 i totally understand. I always will leave if someone just says hey no skating please just as you said. i just found it weird that he wanted my camera and not the skateboard which was the whole reason for him going there and kicking us out.
garrisonboobs 1 year ago
@garrisonboobs
No of course he wanted the Camera, he knows what he did was in violation of his contract with the site owner (Security guards are NOT permitted to touch you, unless they are legally armed security.) He can ask for your name, and for you to move along. But in no way shape or form is he permitted to touch you, your property, nor may the guard detain you. I would re-post this video with the places name in it and link it everywhere to raise a stink.
soymilk43223 1 year ago
@soymilk43223 thanks for the help!
garrisonboobs 1 year ago
@soymilk43223 right on!
skate1206 1 year ago
@soymilk43223 Unless you are a lawyer, you should keep your mouth shut. A security guard as all the rights of a private person to effect an arrest if he witnesses a misdeamor or reasonably believes a felony has occurred.. That's under California Penal Code 837. Furthermore, a security guard is an AGENT of the owner of the property and thereby is legally authorized to enforce any legal rules and policies.. Hillsdale mall is a "Private property with OPEN access to the general public."
roymp870 1 year ago
@roymp870
Oh I assure you being in LAW SCHOOL, gives me some knowledge, and Cali Code 837 only is under statue of a Felony committed in a public place, and only by a Peace officer. Security guards do NOT have the right to take possessions belonging to a citizen, nor the right to detain unless an offense under code 837 (which skateboarding does not constitute.) Therefore, the guard opens up the mall, the owner and the guard himself to a lawsuit. Let alone the criminal charge of kidnapping.
soymilk43223 1 year ago
@roymp870 I dont believe they have the right to take a camera, they can escort you off the property or call the real police but there is no law against photography, even if its prohibited in the mall they can only issue a trespassing order for it..
patricknedz 1 year ago
the fukin rent a cops are everywhere now, ever since i got caught at a bank, just skating, fukin turds ugh
GreasybigmacCallinMe 1 year ago
Many malls really don't want to be filmed--they require a permit for that (lol and, quite often, payment for that permit). Of course, since everyone has a camera on their phone, their rules are kind of stupid.
streetmirage 1 year ago
@streetmirage haha yes thats true.
garrisonboobs 1 year ago
the coolest rent a cop would be 1 that had his kid skatin and he skated but we all know rent a cops cant have babies though
jman837 1 year ago
@jman837 hahaha so true
garrisonboobs 1 year ago
wow what a douchebag!
MrMMABoy 1 year ago
wat a bitch,fuck that rent a cop
Lemonator420 1 year ago
last thing i heard was, "i had my tre flip on...."
awesomenessallaround 1 year ago
@awesomenessallaround haha umm... its a secret. you heard wrong. lol
garrisonboobs 1 year ago