Honduran Police Burn Community to the Ground

[starmanskye]

What an obscenity. THIS is 'free-market democracy' the dumbed-down masses endorse, succumbing to corporate-centric propaganda promoted by the mass-media that justified the oligarchic coup which deposed popularly-elected President Zelaya. Honduran public mobilized a nationwide protest strike that anticipated mass uprisings seen in 'Arab Spring' revolts & more recently in Occupy Wall Street movements. Its the SAME globalist corporate crooks, technocrats & sellout politicos betraying WE the 99%!

[ill318]

the destroying hordes of satan - coming soon to north america! i watched some vid where the banks in the u.s are Bulldozing vacant houses instead of letting people buy cheap affordable housing..

And it matters not the Form of Government it matters that We do not Prosecute any of these wealthy tyrants & corrupt minions, they are never held to the rule of law & jailed or Hung by the neck till Dead! when more see that they want 80% of the earths pop dead - perhaps more will martyr for humanity!

[6of6]

This is what awaits Libyans if Gadaffi is ousted. Of course, we will never know unless we happen upon some barely viewed internet news articles.

[y2knoproblem]

Tea Party politics have been exported to Honduras.

[illusionstateofmind]

fuck!

[hellgorama]

Heck why even have a gov't? Before the creation of money people lived egalitarian lives. And today we have volunteers willing to work for nothing to help people. How about people just recognize that we all need food, water, land, shelter, medicare, education and provide them for free? Any luxuries obviously will be need to be bought. People with the capitalist consumer mindset are what ruins any such possibility (people who want to own exorbitant amounts of property at the expense of others)

[grossebobette]

Jew.s.a. sucks !!!

[jcvncampos]

que absurdo!!!

[vanvanbluz]

So why didn't the wealthy land owner hire the village men to work his fields while also paying them a nominal salary and allowing them to keep their village on the land?

[jesusoculto]

I am normally irritated by the reporting done on Latin America but this guy has done a fantastic job.

[BankofSpirit]

CORPORATISM, kneads/needs material worship, owned population, sheep, sell out spirit/life, buy into fashion/fascism, which kneads/needs fools to be CORPORATE tools, w/ minds kin to monkey, money-lovers, fiat-$-junkies, don costumes, act uniformly/goosestep, PEON/pee on life, protect dolls/toys for the living, earn fools gold/fiat-$ to debase life, bureaucrats cause us to take axe to an orchard & erect a plastic fruit factory. we slave for fiat$ to buy fiat-food, WiTCHES waste, produce of PHARMS

[paranorma1palace]

i didnt know jews were moving to honduras :)

[greenman92553]

@paranorma1palace

The Mossad has been in Honduras since the 80s when Reagan gave them the job the Argentines were holding erecting the clandestine execution centers.

[vanvanbluz]

@greenman92553 Mossad is a terrorist organization.

[lasheron]

oh Idumea...and cronie israelites

[TheEthanwashere]

Can someone fill me in here, what happened with the coup?

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

@TheEthanwashere Look up the real news' reports on it, by far better than a lot of other media on the subject (click on their channel and do a search among their videos under "Honduras" the period you're looking for is after June 2008).

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

@TheEthanwashere 2009 not 2008! Here's the first one: /watch?v=jtwQqinu0tc I particularly recommend the coverage of the fake November 2009 elections.

[sheepblitzer]

those poor police think they are being patriotic and "law"-upholding, just because some politicians made it "law" to give land to their ruling elite backers rather than the people. when will we evolve and stop men from ruling other men. its not "power corrupts," power IS corruption!

[carioca1959]

If you want land: buy it! No one owes you anything! I work my hands to the bones. So should you.

[Devilock79]

@carioca1959

They were buying the land, did you not watch the video at all? The former democratic government was going to give them a loan to buy the land at market value but then the Western backed military coup reversed the decision. I can't believe you have a picture of Jesus on your page, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[carioca1959]

Palestinians are not victims, but MURDERERS!!!! Illegal trans passers. That land is ISRAEL. Given by GOD. David and Joshua fought battles for it under GOD's orders. Shove your taqqiya up yours! Honduras farmers are victims

[WarDogLRS]

When will the world grow up

[chi8cago]

this is what's coming to America.

[underthebox]

Property can never be truly owned. One day we'll all die, and we will leave this world the same way we came, with NOTHING.

[underthebox]

Real News, thank you so much for your great work!

[acedagaiin]

thanks for subtitles

[Idtelos]

Globalization should be label Cannibilization of countries by big corporations backed by bully government/organizations.

[DackIsBack]

Corporate Slavery, Enforced by State.

[MrMooseheadbeer]

The same shit happens in america... men with guns show up at your door and boot you the fuck out... it may not be as dramatic because they dont burn the homes down, but never the less it happens. We should worry about our selfs before we try to help other people.

[notthere83]

and important word missing throughout the report when it comes to the coup: "US-backed"

i think it's very important to recognize the main force for suffering in this world. whether it rampages abroad or in its own country.

[hellgorama]

All this oppression and poverty is actually FINANCED BY western consumerism. This is why charities are complete sham. They do nothing as long as people continue uphold consumerism. Anyone who speaks against mass consumption is regarded as a evil socialist/communist. Heck western idiots even say they have a god given HUMAN RIGHT to mass consumption. In other words they claim to have the right to inflict suffering on others.

[repo4sale]

Taking Land then trying make the govt. to give you the money to buy it is STUPID!

[ToeInspector]

aw,did I offend your fake reality...poor you.



[RemoveYourChains]

"Is it possible or not, given the present conditions in our continent, to achieve it (socialist power, that is) by peaceful means? We emphatically answer that, in the great majority of cases, this is not possible." - Che Guevara

[TheSlowThinker]

I'd like to thank the Real News Network for filming this and showing it to us!

I hate to mix in politics in someone else's plight, but it seems to me this is an example of how the "trickle down"-effect simply doesn't create more land for everyone. This is sad to see, and I fear that the wider the gap between rich and poor, the more of this we'll see in the future around the world.

My thoughts go to those who lost their homes. I wish you well!

[hellgorama]

@TheSlowThinker I know, too bad ppl like danL1011 are incapable of understanding this. Probably cos his/her life is extremely comfortable. Afterall who needs to give a shit about other ppl as long as your own life is awesome; their suffering is their own fault (forget the whole exploitation and corruption and market manipulation that capitalism inevitably results in). <-- capitalist thinking.

[Kicker001911]

@hellgorama Your right but your using the wrong term its not capitalism its Globalism that is creating the most suffering .And every one but the few elite globalist will feel the wrath of the globalist. They have all the money and technology and once they take all resources with there war machines. they wont have any use for us anymore. They poison the water,air, food, and thoughts while they prepare for what is next, and we are not apart of it

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

@hellgorama I feel that this guy fits the word "troll" very well.

[captcrais101]

GOD DAM THE SCHOOL OF AMERICAS!!! THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!! They help create the coup that took over Honduras.

[XSilvenX]

4:48 - She has no idea does she? These people won't "pay" for anything. The amount of bullshit that people will get away with in a disgusting and corrupt global monetary system like this is incredible. Sorry friend, but you will quickly learn, there is no justice. Capitalism's golden age has come and gone, all that's left now is insurmountable debt and fast-rising poverty and homelessness. Should be a movie actually. "Homelessness: Coming to a street corner near you" 2011 release.

[Lieu3C4]

The sort of thing that may well lead to La Cosa Nostra in due course, as it did in Sicily so long ago.

[HalfQ]

arhhh, sickening my heart goes out to these people :(

[blackiron60]

The Palestinians aren't the only people who suffer from Apartheid in this world. Indeed the entire world is groaning under the weight of an Apartheid system and its name is capitalism.

[r0ll0t0masi]

@blackiron60

So true...

[danL1011]

@blackiron60 [...groaning under the weight of an Apartheid system and its name is capitalism.]

You are confusing many different concepts: apartheid, religious intolerance, jingoism (as it might apply to Israel) with forms of economic systems such as capitalism. In the case of Honduras, you are also confusing capitalism with possible gov't corruption and cronyism.

Here it appears the land is being returned to the wealthy landowners from whom it was STOLEN from by the previous socialist gov't.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 STOLEN? BS. And now what are the poor people supposed to do? Go to the city? and work in extremely bad work condition for someone else and in return for scraps?? the "evil" socialist gov't gave people freedom from the plantation owners who works for corporate america (IE capitalism). The gov't cronyism is purely done in favor of multinational corps. Go learn the facts instead of ingesting the bullshit spewed from the american propaganda machine (*cough* fox news etc *cough*).

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [STOLEN? BS.]

That's odd. A long response which doesn't address the question. Did you not hear the story?

The land was STOLEN (i.e. no compensation) from landowners who owned more than 300 hectares of land in this area.

Let's assume you own your home with a huge back yard on a 2 acre lot. Suppose the Canadian gov't decided everyone should only have a half acre lot and "gave away 1-3/4 acre of your property to squatters. Ponder that one.

"Go learn the facts..." Yes, you should.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 it was LOANED not stolen. And secondly Im not a greedy fuck as to own a mega mansion while the rest of the world suffers in abject poverty. I wouldn't mind shedding a bit of land to help the poor. You see I have 2 things called empathy and morality which is very rare among people living in western consumerist culture.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [it was LOANED not stolen.]

Really? If that's the case, shouldn't the original landowners be able to get it back? (We'll assume the raid and demolition was too heavy-handed so no need to argue that point.)

btw, you didn't answer my question. Let's change it a little. What if you only lived in a 2 bedroom apt. and the Canadian gov't decides to "loan" one of the bedrooms to the poor for 12 years?

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 Then I would be among the lower middle class people. And for gov't to ask the lower classes to help out the poor means there are no rich people. Also you are taking this out of context. This is about plantation owners who are screwing the ppl by selling the country's resources to the west (and making big money) while denying the locals a better way of life. And asking the middle/lower classes to help the poor like that would be going too far indeed, but I'm talking about super-rich.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [This is about plantation owners who are screwing the ppl by selling the country's resources to the west ...while denying the locals a better way of life.]

You are skirting the question. Did the previous socialist government STEAL the land from the wealthy landowners or not?

[And asking the middle/lower classes to help the poor like that would be going too far indeed]

STEALING from the rich or poor is still STEALING. Property rights is not class dependent.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 And that's why property rights is a load of bullocks. The only things people should be entitled to at a personal level are the basic essentials, and a few luxuries like computers, internet (luxuries that can be made available to everyone easily). Land and massive major structures on the other hand is something that should be for the benefit for all. I mean really look what property rights and rampant individualism is doing to the planet: social and ecological degradation.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [And that's why property rights is a load of bullocks.]

Interesting viewpoint.

[Land and massive major structures on the other hand is something that should be for the benefit for all.]

I (the Canadian gov't) think your 2 bdrm apartment is more than you need. I will confiscate 1 of the bdrms. In fact, I think personal property rights is BS. You could do w/o 2 computers so I'll just take the desktop one and give it a poor person who doesn't have any.  Sound good to you?

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 fair enough. I only need one computer anywayz. Secondly one bedroom is enough for a guy like me. And houses should accommodate more than just 1 or 2 ppl (how about a family of 4 or 5 etc). Heck one bedroom is enough for one person to sleep. Living room and kitchen can be shared anywayz and it gets shared when living as a family. Its people like you who argue FOR a rampantly individualistic capitalist society, who can't stand to live together and get along with other ppl.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [Its people like you ...who can't stand to live together and get along with other ppl.]

You missed the whole point. Revisit this in ten or twenty years after you have a family and have saved and scrimped to provide for them. I suspect you will be less willing to part with the "extra" computer you saved up for your spouse and children only to see it given to a "poor" family that spent their money on a flat-screen TV.

"A gov't that can give you everything can also take it away."

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 saved and scrimped? excuse me but if you are scrimping then you are the poor one who will be on the receiving end of assistance. And if the "poor" are able to buy a flat-screen TV then they aren't poor now are they? You are the one who is missing the point. Your examples involve gov't stealing from the poor and giving to the poor. What I'm talking about is limits placed on the SUPERRICH to prevent insane income inequality. Heck it doesn't have to be stealing, how about taxing the rich?

[danL1011]

@hellgorama You don't get it. Check back in twenty years.

[Your examples involve gov't stealing from the poor and giving to the poor.]

The examples are MEANT to be absurd based on your reasoning that the gov't has the right to "tax" (i.e. steal) one group to give to another.

You never did answer the question. Did the previous socialist government STEAL the land from the wealthy landowners or not?

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 The community was given loans from gov't to buy the land from plantation owners. That is not stealing. The plantation owners were compensated. Secondly taxing ain't stealing, unless that money DOES NOT get spent on social services and instead lines the pockets of gov't officials.

[TheSlowThinker]

@hellgorama Well said!

Indeed, taxing is not stealing - it's what we pay to make our society livable. And I would say that the wealthiest among us owe society the most, since it is our society that has enabled them to succeed. Take any American billionaire, and let them start out with no money in a poor, war-torn African country. It's unlikely that they will reach age 25, let alone get rich.

Wealth comes from society, and taxing it is necessary to maintain society.

[danL1011]

@TheSlowThinker [I would say that the wealthiest among us owe society the most]

Using your Steve J. ex., I would say he doesn't OWE society any more than any other teenager growing up in CA in the 70's who dropped out of life.

Steve J's philanthropy w/ his wealth should be HIS choice. The gov't has no right to be charitable w/ his money by STEALING his hard earned wealth thru punitive taxation (e.g. extremely progressive income tax rates) and giving it to the poor OR to Wall St. bankers.

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 Hm, I think this might be a key point where we disagree. The amount of money one has does not measure the amount of work done. So I don't feel bad when the government taxes those who have a special talent for using the system to their advantage, or simply lucking out.

I'm sure Jobs has worked hard in his life, but I know folks folks who have worked really hard and for a lot longer, and yet they have no more influence on society, no more fame, and no more money than the average Joe.

[danL1011]

@TheSlowThinker Jobs's wealth is derived primarily from his creative & marketing genius and the success of the co. he founded. I do not believe in excessive taxation of hard work or simply luck.

Contrast that with the wealth of L. Blankfein which is mostly derived from extracting wealth of others.

A gov't policy of "soaking the rich" does not distinguish b/t the two and is simply STEALING.

Besides, do you REALLY think the gov't will spend the money more wisely than the Bill Gates Foundation?

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 I guess we're more or less done presenting our views, and for now disagree on what fixes are needed. I'll leave you with one final thought, though, perhaps clarifying why we disagree: I think that in a democracy worth its' name, there is no need for a "Bill Gates Foundation".

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [The community was given loans from gov't to buy the land from plantation owners. That is not stealing. The plantation owners were compensated. ]

If this were true the squatter communities would not have been destroyed. There is no indication in this story that this got past the talking stage and the landowners received any compensation.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 well their communities WOULD be destroyed if they were unable to pay off the loan. I mean cmon, it was a bad idea to LOAN it to poor communities they don't have the money for it. It should have been DONATED instead, with any successive purchases of extra land made by from OWN pocket.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [It should have been DONATED instead]

No matter how you try to spin it, the land was taken from the wealthy landowners and given to the squatters -- that is the definition of STEALING.

Don't get me wrong, the plight of the landless peasants in Honduras and the extreme wealth disparity is a problem. STEALING from one group of people to give to another does not solve these problem.

Willing "donation" is charity; gov't confiscation is theft (just like the gov't taking your 2nd bdrm).

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 Ehem, not if the gov't BOUGHT IT FROM THE RICH, and then LOANED it to the poor. Keyword: BOUGHT. Meaning gov't paid money to the rich to acquire the land. And this money was used to help a whole community. Not stealing if you were compensated for it. And yes, I'm well aware of the extremes of my end of the political spectrum (the left). This is why I'm against having gov't but instead have people collectively come together to work to provide for all.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [Ehem, not if the gov't BOUGHT IT FROM THE RICH...]

But they didn't. They stole it. Socialist governments don't compensate people for what they take.

Your position is self-contradicting. "property rights is a load of bullocks" If you truly believe this, then the logical conclusion is that the government is entitled to STEAL the land from the wealthy landowners.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [Secondly taxing ain't stealing, unless that money DOES NOT get spent on social services...]

Taxation for the purposes of redistributing wealth is stealing. Bailing out Goldman Sachs with taxpayer money is stealing. Taxing middle class people to fund food stamps for "poor" people to buy porterhouse steaks while they spend their own money on flat screen TVs is stealing.

Taxation for roads, police $ fire, national defense is usually not stealing.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 That's what I'm talking about: taxing ppl to fund social services such as police, fire, healthcare, etc. Heck even better would be adding a tax everyone to provide everyone food free of charge. And it's going to be a small fixed percentage of personal income. That means it will make the poor pay less for food and discrepancy is compensated by the rich (who usually ends up exploiting the labor of the poor for personal gain anyways).

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [Heck even better would be adding a tax everyone to provide everyone food free of charge.]

Ah, the idealism of youth. Look up moral hazard.

Assuming you scrimped and saved for twenty years and now have a net worth that puts you in the upper middle class. How willing are you to cough up $500 a month so that your old high school buddy (who squandered all his money on booze and women) can eat as well as you for $50?

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 To continue, Lets say a poor family earning $1000/month has to normally spend $200/month on food (food costs are usually around 20%). A 5% food tax would reduce food spending to $50. Giving the family $950 to spend elsewhere. A rich family with $10,000/month income, who also pay $200/month for food would be taxed $500. But it would still leave the rich family richer than the poor. Problem is how to figure out the portions. I would say as much as you can fit in 1 or 2 baskets per week.

[donteatthefishsticks]

@danL1011 Land cannot be stolen, except from those who live on it. Land cannot be property...it is not the product of anyone's labour. Either owning land you do not live on should be a crime...OR, landowners should be made to pay large taxes for the privilege of owning the land. If capitalists really can put the land to better use than the people, and society accepts this, then at the very least the capitalists owe us a living for the privilege. Everyone has a right to live on this Earth!

[danL1011]

@donteatthefishsticks [Land cannot be stolen...Land cannot be property.]

Unfortunately, this notion is incompatible with how modern society works. Research how land was stolen from blacks on Hilton Head SC thru high taxes.

[Everyone has a right to live on this Earth!]

I will say this... The fact that MNC's are buying up access to water in the third world is disturbing. Villagers should not be forced to trek miles for water where once they were able to fetch water from a local well.

[donteatthefishsticks]

@danL1011 It is incompatible with how modern society works, that's true, so IMO, if we are going to have a modern society, everyone who owns something they do not personally use or work with (housing, land, factories, companies, etc) must pay taxes for the privilege and this money should be distributed directly to the people in the form of a citizens' dividend.

[danL1011]

@donteatthefishsticks [IMO...must pay taxes for the privilege and this money should be distributed ...]

This is not that far off from how the land was taken from freed blacks on Hilton Head so that wealthy whites could build vacation resorts. The whites received the "citizen's dividend" in the form of tax breaks subsidized in part w/ the taxes collected from the evicted poor blacks who could no longer afford the higher taxes that they "must pay".

Be careful what you ask for. ;-}

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [And if the "poor" are able to buy a flat-screen TV then they aren't poor now are they?]

Having spent much time in Canada, I can understand why you are not familiar with this phenomenon. In the US, you will often see "poor" people buying porterhouse steaks and jumbo shrimp with food stamps while middle class working stiffs buy hamburger. You will also see "poor" people who can't pay their bills get evicted w/ their 60" flat-screen TVs with young kids wearing $400 leather jackets.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 woah didn't know things are that fucked up in the US. I blame the failing education system for this. But this ain't the case in the rest of the world. US culture is trash culture. They are taught to consume consume consume. The more you consume the more respect you get. The less you consume you become a total loser. But this ain't the case in the rest of the world.

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 If you are talking about gov't corruption moving wealth from poor to the rich, how is it any different than the capitalist system you work so hard to defend? Look at the US the most capitalist nation in the world with the fewest regulation on markets and the most lobbyists to prevent such measures. Here we have a gov't that refuses to tax the rich... I mean "job creators" and instead penalizes the poor. In fact screw gov't (see my previous comment to the video).

[hellgorama]

@danL1011 Oh and yes stealing from anyone is stealing. But when 1% of the population owns most of the world's resources while the rest have to live on scraps, and when one's success is based on how well one can screw the other guy (IE "competitiveness"), at some point you gotta say "THIS IS BS SOMETHING IS WRONG". Because ppl are having to compete with each other for survival, capitalism = social darwinism.

[danL1011]

@hellgorama [Oh and yes stealing from anyone is stealing. But...]

Are you saying this is false? No buts...

[STOLEN? BS.] This is your 1st response to me.

Yes or no, was the land STOLEN from the filthy rich wealthy landowners by the government? Let's even assume these were ill-gotten gains on the most part.

A gov't that can give you everything can also take it away. Who chooses where to draw the line?

300 hectares? 100? 0.5?

One bedroom in Canada? (We already know your answer to this.)

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

@danL1011 Name one country where capitalism operates free of cronyism? You capitalists are always trying to make the distinction but yet everywhere I turn, the two are ALWAYS along side one another. Cronyism is baked into the cake and this is why it's a flawed system as well.

[danL1011]

@BlacksAreBeautiful [Name one country where capitalism operates free of cronyism? ]

Haha, name one single form of human endeavor that is free of cronyism. Capitalism used to work fairly well in the US before big government. It still operates fairly well in HK and Singapore.

[Cronyism is baked into the cake and this is why it's a flawed system as well.]

And cronyism isn't baked into command economies like Cuba, USSR, Nazi Germany?

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 To me the worry is not "big government", but "big private wealth" influencing government. Just today I read that Apple's assets are greater than that of the US government - which makes me wonder whether Steve J and I really have an equal say in the way the USA is run. If not, can we truly call ourselves a democracy?

[danL1011]

@TheSlowThinker [... is not "big government", but "big private wealth" influencing government.]

Yes, I agree as it relates to crony capitalism. The US is becoming less and less of a republic (never was a democracy) and more of a kleptocracy where the gov't is beholden to "big private wealth".

Big gov't is more a comment on the 'freebies' given to the underclass to keep them from rioting. This is the only real difference b/t Dems and Pubs.

btw, hi-tech has very little influence in Wash.

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 I guess my claim is that "big private wealth" will always have a strong influence on government via lobbying, negotiating deals, and outright bribing. One way to tackle this is to allow government to regulate and tax the market. But for this, people need to be united in agreement, making their voices heard, supporting necessary laws proposed by elected leaders in an effort to limit the influence of "big private wealth" - not calling for tax cuts and shrinkage of government.

[danL1011]

@TheSlowThinker [..."big private wealth" will always have a strong influence on government...]

It shouldn't and it wasn't always so in the US. I think K Street lobbying should be outlawed. The US Supreme Court dealt a major blow to the PEOPLE by giving corps. the right to contribute as much as they want to campaigns.

Lawmakers answer to the entities that fund their campaigns. Term limits and campaign finance reform is where I'd start. More regulation & taxes don't address the problem.

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 "It shouldn't and it wasn't always so in the US."

But it is now, and I think this is largely due to concentrated wealth calling for less regulation of various kinds, including how campaigns are financed. During the 80's and 90's many bills were proposed to limit and regulate campaign fund raising, but they were all unsuccessful. On a side note, as far as I can tell, it's been the democrats proposing regulation, and the republicans stopping it.

[danL1011]

@TheSlowThinker [due to concentrated wealth calling for less regulation of various kinds]

It's the effectiveness of regs that is important, not the qty. The problem is that the "concentrated wealth" are basically writing the legislation to favor themselves.

Often the vested interest in cahoots with power hungry lawmakers and bureaucrats introduce "regulation" that keeps other players out and leads to bloated gov't. Dems and Pubs are a false dichotomy. They serve the same vested interests.

[TheSlowThinker]

@danL1011 I agree that quality trumps quantity. I also agree that concentrated wealth is affecting legislation to a large degree, and maintain that concentrated wealth is a serious problem in this country and an increasing problem globally.

[wiggledytoes]

@TheSlowThinker Everyone knows the countrys run by companys. More taxes for the poor & nothing for the rich. If they tax the rich theyre scared theyre move to another country. But one term government should tax the rich, make them move country. Let some one else do there job & instead of them making 14billion profit im sure they will be more than willing to do it for a billion profit. Democracy works for them not us, 4 years no one gets held accountable then some one else takes the job.

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

@danL1011 Typical strawman defense. Where did I even remotely try to defend the systems of Cuba or Nazi Germany? First of all, all these systems are mere hybrids of one another. They all share many common elements, so it almost folly to try and place one above the other......get it?

[danL1011]

@BlacksAreBeautiful Strawman? Hardly. The point is that cronyism is a part of human nature. YOU are the one who implied that cronyism is somehow unique to (or at least exert a greater influence on) capitalism. You have failed to support your claim that 'capitalism' is any more "flawed" than any other system.

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

@danL1011 I implied no such thing...My comment was in direct response to a person who mentioned capitalism specifically! Again, I never once claimed capitalism was any more or less flawed than other systems.....You are now 0-2 in your strawman battles. I think you should leave them alone.

[danL1011]

@BlacksAreBeautiful You crack me up.

[You capitalists are always trying to make the distinction but yet everywhere I turn, the two are ALWAYS along side one another. Cronyism is baked into the cake and this is why it's a flawed system as well.]

You've backpedaled so much you are basically saying nothing. I think you need to look up strawman arguments. I specifically answered your first question (e.g. HK, Singapore).

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

@danL1011 Tell me something Danny boy....what do the two words AS WELL mean????? Doesn't that suggest I'm lumping Capitalism in with other economic systems ALSO? Actually what I'm saying is complete and sound more than I can say for your ability to comprehend!

[danL1011]

@BlacksAreBeautiful [Tell me something Danny boy...]

Getting a little hot under the collar?

[Doesn't that suggest I'm lumping Capitalism in with other economic systems ALSO?]

Actually your "as well" is ambiguous but let's use your take on it.

This of course REALLY renders your posts meaningless.

To recap again:

BrB - Capitalism is flawed b/c of cronyism. But it is no better or worse than other systems b/c I am "lumping Capitalism in with other economic systems".

Truly insightful posts. LMAO.

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

@danL1011 Hot under the collar? Hardly. Youtube is filled with guys like you who just lust to jump in on other people's discussions trying to pick fights. My original post was directed at a specific poster. However you felt the need to join in. Interesting to note that not one of your replies has actually attempted to refute or even make a case for capitalism so it's obvious you're just looking for an argument. This is why i typically don't have discussions here with people under 21.

[danL1011]

@BlacksAreBeautiful [My original post was directed at a specific poster. However you felt the need to join in.]

Ummm... your reply was directed at me in response to my post. I am the specific poster. I only responded b/c your post WAS IN MY INBOX! Check the paper trail. Do you suffer from ADHD as well?

[upabittoolate]

@danL1011 There wasn't cronyism in the US but all of the presidents (and most of the senators & congresspeople) have been mainly White men during this country's 234yr history (since the Constitution was drafted)? The Rockefellers, Van der Bilts & Bushes haven't all been in the same fraternal class? You're gonna deny the existence of a long, intricate web in order to sidestep the point that BlacksAreBeautiful is trying to make? Idiot.

[danL1011]

@upabittoolate "Idiot."

Apparently that is an appropriate description of you. Follow the thread. The point I made (which BrB did not dispute) is that cronyism exists EVERYWHERE and in all forms of economic systems.  Duh.

[upabittoolate]

@danL1011 The idiot is the guy who thinks capitalism is superior & that cronyism doesn't lend itself to every facet of life; ESPECIALLY economics. Idiot.

[chewbaca1989]

@blackiron60

This is not capitalism, that would mean there is respect for private property.

[pridelion88]

Central america will always be labled the bannana republic bowing down for us intrest control. The sad part are the poor ppl making ends meat suffer bc, of the rich right wing pigs bending down for us dollars. How can I run a cigar factory if, these rght wing pigs ruins everything.

[12quillemall5321]

Honduran banks are shady also. Never borrow from them. You will never get your property.

[ToeInspector]

how the fuck do these jackboot thugs sleep at night,it is really fucking amazing what normal people are forced to put up with.UNITE FIGHT DIE IF YOU HAVE TO,KEEP YOUR PIECE OF MIND.

[antiprocon]

This piece is just devastating. Thank you for continuing to cover and call attention to the struggle in Honduras.

[GhettoSage]

I smell a Honduran rebellion in the distance

[Mahoivlich]

Was the US behind this coo too?

[ToeInspector]

@Mahoivlich I would list the american backed coup's since ww2 ,but i would run out of space before I got half of them listed.Knowledge is power.Only you can save your soul.

[JackofOneTrade567]

what interest does japan have in honduras?

[etniko]

oomfg pure cruelty.

[rafyselles]

Is not an eviction is an EXPROPRIATION ..Cabrones ..

[pranachimana]

"So, I ask you to help us in this fight. Let's win our land. God gave land for all of us, not just for a small few." Oh... My... God... that was beautiful.

[tubetib]

@pranachimana There is no god.

[ToeInspector]

@tubetib There is no Truth,kill your motherfucking self.Trying to take away something that maybe gives another a sence of anything positive so soothe your insanity,makes you no better than any religious cult.

[tubetib]

@ToeInspector Reason is better than lies.

[ToeInspector]

@tubetib Jesus Christ walked the Earth. Historical Fact.The Bible is metaphor for a way of life that does not affect other life in a negative way.It is just to bad you have never read it,you can spout others arguments all day if you want to,I really do not care.Just remember Karma is a bitch.

[tubetib]

@ToeInspector Lol! I guess you can believe that. Your threats are very amusing to me.

[ToeInspector]

@tubetib Of course I believe that Jusus Of Nazereth was a great MAN not a god.He was also very well traveled.Mentioned in many books other than the Bible.It is too bad fucktards like you believe what your insane father told you.Have a great life.Enjoy living for your idol's and material goods while you can.Because first chance I get Im burning all you yuppie fucktards out of house and home.

[RussianCelt]

@ToeInspector Wow, another "loving" X-tian. LMAO!

[XSilvenX]

@ToeInspector Jesus Christ walked the Earth huh...? Historical fact you say....So then, can you provide whatever sources undeniably prove this?

[captcrais101]

@ToeInspector There is no record of the slaughter of innocence that is why very few believed Jesus exist. Only two of his apostles wrote bible verses about him. Christianity has become a right wing theocratic movenment that does not believe in Christ priniciples anymore.

[pranachimana]

@tubetib Thanks for the enlightenment... I now see how everything MUST have come from nothing

[tubetib]

@pranachimana OK, I guess you want to mean that only god comes nothing. That makes so much sense. Lol!

[pranachimana]

@tubetib .......

[dfg93353]

Racist bastards

[SAPPERsurvivialism]

2nd amendment...nuff said.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

ACAB

[upabittoolate]

Animals.

[doctorcrapable]

sickening 

[Eraser7622]

You will win. We will all win, in all countries.. there will be peace in our time. This is guaranteed as we enter our golden age.

namaste

[PRIVATEAYEIEYE]

Way to go Hillary! Lobo's working out GREAT!

[upabittoolate]

@PRIVATEAYEIEYE You couldn't be more correct. I don't know why Hill even backed that piece of shit. He's a fascist. And ANY man, especially a man in a position of authority, that would hit a pregnant woman, it garbage.

[LazarusCato]

@upabittoolate @PRIVATEAYEIEYE - they backed this coup because the previous Honduran president was getting cozy with ALBA - and imperialist Amerika doesn't like sovereign nations doing what's in their citizenry's best interest.

[upabittoolate]

@LazarusCato You're right. I wish Barack would've just put her on the Supreme Court. At this rate, she's Kissinger to Obeezy's Nixon.

[TheMoonchick]

This is a shame what in the world ????

[Chaoitcme]

Sad. It just shows you that your government is not always on your side and in fact will destroy you and all you have if they want to.