Gimpyfish (Bowser) vs Hitsugaya (Peach) Match 1

[UTSchoolOfSmash]

man...i miss gimpy. Wish hed come back.

[Gimpyfish62]

@UTSchoolOfSmash i've been playing a lot of project m lately if you check my channel i'll have more bowser videos coming soon ;P

[CriminalIntent89]

that peach is so bad all she does is spam

[Pzykowulf]

Man I miss playing with Peach on Melee. I was so good with her, but it's been YEARS since I last played. I wish they hadn't nerfed her in Brawl but they did =( I know the vid is years old, but Bowser's hit-box was so easy to take advantage of. You could be half-way across the screen and still hit him with the right characters.

On a side note, I've seen REALLY tricky Bowser players. If you can manage to master his skill-set he's a MONSTER on the battlefield. I had him as a second character.

[thegambitking]

Bowser must have a pretty sick wavedash, right???

...erm, wait a minute here!

[EroticAnimals]

GO GIMPYFISH

[hibber25]

tier list... uhh, tier list who?

[Hawkds21]

I love Bowser.

[Ipownoobz]

1:08 very near miss XD

[SuchAHussler]

Lmao get raped tier list

[FinalDedede]

el modo cobarde q juega peach es pq sabe q de frente no podria contra bowser, juega todo a la defensiva cada quien juega como kiere pero de frente no puede pq no sabe q hacer, su estilo es correr y tener miedo gympyfish es muy cabron y se la rifa contra esas joterias bien me gusta mas el juego rudo y atascado y no el de ganar como niña atras y de maricon eso cualkiera lo hace, y lo de gympy es un modo de juego q te anima a jugar como el

[Oriondaranger]

Bowser is soooo much better in brawl.

[3volved]

u say that bc hes much easier to play and u probably werent good with him in melee, not really better.

[lucasvelez88]

I HATE PEACH

[jolteontrainer]

The whole arguement was pointless! wtf is wrong with you people? This guy says one thing he feels about the game and he gets bitched at. I mean come on! Its a game! I mean its not like he's telling you the way he wants you to play it. I kinda now think twice on what you said Gimpy about how everybody can just have fun together or something like that on your 1up video because I felt that you had a lot of offense to that comment. Oh and pardon my grammer.

[LoversandThievesmusi]

Just putting this out there, something can not happen in a game unless the game was programmed to let it happen.

The creators of melee made it so when you air dodge into the ground, it does what it does; just because SOMETHING has to happen when you do so.

True that they didnt see that (wavedash) would be used like this, but there were 4 different versions, patches, if you will of melee. Each one getting rid of various glitches that weren't meant to be there.

Wavedash was kept purposely

[JMIRULEZ]

Your partly right but... Glitching, like getting out of the map, was not something the programmers put in intentionally.

Wavedashing was a traction glitch. It was put in purposely. THAT'S why it was taken out of brawl.

[TOYD3]

I dont like people saying that things were 'taken out' of brawl as if the developers took Melee and turned it into Brawl. They are two totally different games.

[tehF1r3]

wavedash was not taken out of brawl by sakurai saying, "we have to get rid of wavedash!" but rather they decided "hey, wouldn't it be cool to change the physics and airdodge system of smash?"

[abelign1991]

And not to sound unprofessional, but the reason I got into this argument, is because i read about you dissing these players saying that they arent pros just because they wavedash.

SSBM isnt the only game where players play differently from the creator's intent.

So it really got me pissed when you said they arent really pros, when i'm 100% sure they could beat you any day, you whiny piece of shit.

[quackajack13z]

It's just a game, guys- it's just a game.

[Xyraphius]

Like I said. I wasn't in a good mood the day I started this argument. I'd appreciate it if you understood that I apologized for starting it, and not calling me such names. I've no doubt they could beat me, also. In no way did I say I was the best or better than them. This is why I kind of wanted him to delete the rest of my argument to avoid these misconceptions.

Thank you.

[abelign1991]

Xyraphius.. I've read the entire argument, and I've come to a conclusion that your argument is that you hate the way people exploit loopholes in SSBM, like wavedashing, and other shit.

I don't understand why you don't consider gimpy and hitsugaya pros, just because they wavedash. It is not a cheat. If you checked some MLG vids of professional smash being played by PC Chris, Ken, or M2K, you'll notice they wavedash as well.

It isnt banned in tournies, so its not technically cheating.

[Xyraphius]

*come again."

[Xyraphius]

Well, I don't see the point in arguing this any further. My original intent was not to say that this was a rule. I'm just saying it was never an original intent. How about I just say you play the way you play and i'll play the way I play? My apology for getting out of hand. Life is too short to be arguing over trivial things. I guess it just provoked me when you said, "thank you came again." Once again: My apologies.

[Xyraphius]

If you want me to keep this argument off of your video, we could always just argue elsewhere? I know it wasn't your intent to post this video and provoke an argument, so I give you my apology for that.

[Gimpyfish62]

brawl =/= melee, a technique not being in brawl does not mean it was not meant to be in melee. For example, you cannot turn around neutral b moves in Brawl, but you could in Melee. In Brawl you can airdodge and then jump, but you cannot in melee. Unless I'm missing your point you are implying that the fact that you cannot jump after an airdodge is a glitch in melee.

Your logic is backwards and ridiculous.

[cmgreen4]

@Gimpyfish62 I'm not sure about l canceling, but i think wavedashing is legit because there's actually an animation for it (that little white dust cloud that comes up). if it was a glitch i don't think there'd be a designated animation for it

[TheBuzzSaw]

Of course the creators never intended wavedashing. No one is arguing that. However, you seem to operate under some unwritten rule that it matters. I cannot remember the last time I looked at a game manual or cared what the creator wanted me to do. Who told you that you had to? Seriously, set your scrub mind free!

[wigglezwow]

@Xyraphius lol wow your retarded, no shit there was a reason and stop acting like you've given any evidence that the reason had anything to do with the joke of an argument that you've been trying to make here

[Xyraphius]

@wigglezwow Yes, thank you for your keen insight? This is two years old, if you haven't noticed. I'm glad you feel the need to hurl insults at me, though. Pleasure to meet you too. =]

[Xyraphius]

And, if you delete massive amounts of spam, how is it that a massive part of my opinion and argument are missing?

That in itself basically leads people to believe that I'm some random Joe that said one stupid comment and got put in his place by you.

[Gimpyfish62]

"So... That was intentional and therefore isn't really exploiting now... Is it?" ~You

you are speaking on designers intent. if it isn't the designers intent it is some sort of exploid. thats what you are saying.

"[Smash] is about playing the way you want to play."

~Sakurai

"I'm truly impressed by Wii players. They come up with ways to play and use the Wii that would never occur to us."

~Iwata

these quotes destroy that. good game.

[Gimpyfish62]

you are changing your argument back and forth.

"designer's intent" does not matter.

[Xyraphius]

It's laughable that you'd delete my comments in response to what I said. That's a sign of frustration and embarrassment. Did i hit a nerve?

And intending to leave something in the game and meaning for it to be played in a certain way are two completely different things. You're assuming that I said that based on my quote. And you know what they say about assuming. If you're going to argue with me, at least try and be reasonable. Not delete my comments to make yourself look good.

[Gimpyfish62]

i deleted massive amounts of spam/argument comments on my video because that is all thats happening

[Xyraphius]

Oh, and before I let the thought escape... I don't really plan on winning this argument, considering i'm not a so called "expert" at this game, nor am I as renowned as yourself. However, I could honestly care less if I was rated down by 100, or even 100,000 of your "fans".

I was expressing my opinion in a non-violent way. I didn't say this playing style was "stupid," or anything related to that word.

[Xyraphius]

I'll probably get rated down for this, but after watching all these videos of these matches against said "pros," i'm glad SSBB is supposedly getting rid of "techniques" like wavedashing and such. I like to play SSBM old school. Playing like this just looks... Fake and unprofessional. Not to say that it doesn't take skill. I've just tried playing like this, and I don't like it. Just saying. Good vids though.

[ilovenuts]

Explain how it looks fake and unprofessional?

To be honest, I prefer these advanced techniques because a lot of the time when playing SSB64 if your opponent was good enough they can pretty easily do a 0-death combo on at least 2 of your stock...

[PracticeMan69]

rofl at least 2... You can 0-death any combo pretty much. But that was because of the mediocre physics. There was like no knockback, allowing you to juggle anyone for a 0 to death

[Xyraphius]

I never said I preferred SSB64's physics. I just don't like all of these so-called "advanced" techniques. I don't get a lot of enjoyment watching people do spastic little animations where they go: "Floor -> Air(Wavedash} -> Floor" repeatedly while they attempt to hit each other in the process. Sure, it's quick, and you have to have good reflexes, which I don't deny. I'm just saying I personally don't like SSBM played in this way. I put it in it's own category of fighting.

[ilovenuts]

Well, every game has advanced techniques. You cannot deny that even in old school SSB64 that there were beginner and advanced styles of gameplay. So far, all you've implied is that you hate wavedashing and l-cancel...

P.S. How come you keep putting quotation marks around stuff like "pros" and "advanced"?

[Xyraphius]

No, my biggest problem is wavedashing. I hate it. I know how to do it, but I still hate it.

Also... I put quotation marks around those words because I don't consider them to be such. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a "technique" the developers intentionally left in the game. It's more of a loophole that's heavily exploited now. I'm not telling anyone how to play their game. Considering I don't like to argue, it seems like it was a bad idea to post my opinion on this here. My apologies.

[Gimpyfish62]

"[Smash] is about playing the way you want to play."

~Sakurai

"I'm truly impressed by Wii players. They come up with ways to play and use the Wii that would never occur to us."

~Iwata

developers intent on the "way you play the game" = void.

thank you come again.

[Xyraphius]

I didn't say anything about them MEANING the game to be played that way. I said I don't think they intentionally "made" or meant wave-dashing and such possible until someone found out about it.

So unless you're reading my opinion incorrectly, I hope you're not correcting me with that condescending air, Mr. "BowserKing"?

[Gimpyfish62]

"I'm pretty sure it wasn't a "technique" the developers intentionally left in the game."

~you

yes, you did speak about them MEANING the game to be played a certain way by saying that. Their intent in this case is their meaning, you just dont like the fact that you cant argue with what I'm saying I guess.

Sakurai didn't intend for ___________. It makes no sense.

[Gimpyfish62]

Sakurai probably didn't intend for players to beat classic mode by taunting with luigi into a capsule that happens to be explosive right underneath the master hand. I guess that person is exploiting the game and cheating.

[SmashRose]

beastly third stock, gimpy

[magicalwizardboy]

its a good thing bowsers a tank!

[originalph00tbag]

Well, when all Peach attacks with is turnips, she'll have a hard time knocking Bowser off.

[Gimpyfish62]

and when peach tries to approach she gets out ranged by bowsers attacks and basically just gets totally destroyed lol

[magicalwizardboy]

tiers have nothing to do with this, THEIR BASED ON FUCKING TOURNAMENT RESULTS, not necessarily the ability of a character, the skill a human has on them

[CHUCKWIGZ]

yea but a moderate marth can own an expert kirby....so they do have effect on the gameplay

[Cbairdman]

I didn't realise how smart of a player you were until I saw this match, then I look back at your eggz matches and realised that you're a frickin genius. WHat's so cool is that genius's at the game like you put effort into bowser and makes me wonder what would happen if a guy like you main'd a Marth lol.

[yoshido]

lol nice match. F that hoe peach.

[koopakid]

Tiers exist I just dont care about them.

[UdinPumpCrew]

Bowser? I barely even know her!

[Heropsychodream]

Good job Gimpy, Once again proving the Teir system wrong. Anyone else notice the Audio was off during the last part of the video? I actually had to turn it off.

[Gimpyfish62]

tiers exist and denying that they do is completely ignorant

[Heropsychodream]

I know they do, but you are so good I almost forget! I am trying to main bowser and no one is better to emulate than you.

[smasher32]

It's not that tiers don't exist, they're just completely overrated

*plays fox and kirby*

[ilovenuts]

Tiers don't show who's the best character. Tiers show who's easiest to use, combo with and master... Hence why a lot of people use them.

[TKnightcrawler]

Since the tracking was off, I felt like some kind of freaky time traveler/fortune teller/psychic while watching that. O.O

[HideousBeing]

There's always these idiots that somehow view these vids that put in derogatory input about the players and stuff, but really have no idea what they're talking about and think Pichu is Pikachu with self-damaging moves. So annoying.

[FallnHero]

...i stand corrected on my last comment, i didn't even finish the vid...nice goin gimpy

[Gimpyfish62]

lolololololol

[protoss1210]

now we are all lol'ing at you.

[FallnHero]

is this match even fair? i mean, c'mon, a high-top, upper tier char. against a lower tier char, and bowser at that, i'm not saying that gimpy is bad, i'm just saying that with peaches priority and all, it kind of just laughs at poor boozer...gimpy did put up a good fight in the end

[OneThousandBones]

with peach, one thing that i noticed which worked well against bowser is to space your fairs from the ground, not from above. if you FL and space them just right.. you can actually retreat before he up-b's from the sheild stun. it works well when he doesn't have enough space to back up (towards a ledge) because you're too far away to up-b. in which case he does, he can easily be punished. thats just one pressure point against bowser i learned.

[XMRKINGX]

perch is a noob lol

[AsianFlavaFlav]

u fail

[Phiddlesticks]

What was with the double jumped uairs into wavelandings after Bowser took out Peach's second stock? REAL men show off with single jumped uairs into wavelandings ;)

[DJNintendo05]

I didn't like the matchup. What is the Peach doing, especially when it came to edgeguarding, lol?

[mooseproduce]

"Yea, he's only one of the top 5 Boozers in the world."

Man, there's only, like, 6 in total.

[ZottenKerel]

rofl, word, only a few ppl dumb enough to play it

seriously though bowser sucks ass, he's way to slow.. he did well though, but still..

[mooseproduce]

RONG

Boozer is awesome, just misunderstood. :'( His day will come when heavy characters are top tier in Brawl. FOX FOR LOW TIER BIATCHES

[Gimpyfish62]

bowser is a terrible character and will likely remain a terrible character in brawl.

[mooseproduce]

Holy crap, play along a little.

Actually, I'm willing to bet they'll do something to make him better in Brawl -- he'll definitely not be top or even mid tier, but perchance they'll give him some range or something and he'll not be the lowest of the low.

[Gimpyfish62]

he isn't the lowest of the low either LOL

[mooseproduce]

THEN WHO IS?! FOX?! rofl

[MelodicDaath]

settle down.

I doubt that the makers of brawl realise how avanced smashers play with characters, and i dont think they will calibrate bowser to high level play. Baby Bowser will be sweet though

[mooseproduce]

It's been stated that the team working on Brawl is aware of higher-level play, and such - I thought, anyways. Sakurai himself, probably not so much. Baby Bowser is one of those characters like Waluigi which I wish would go back to the immaterial void from whence they came. >_<

[Gimpyfish62]

if you dont want baby bowser you dont want bowser.

baby bowser is bowser when he was younger, you are wishing bowser out of existance entirely!

the character you are thinking of is probably bowser jr, the son of bowser.

and I love bowser jr <3 haha

[mooseproduce]

Ooh, you're right, actually. Which games are Baby Bowser from? Bowser Junior makes me think of newer games like Mario Party X or Sunshine...

[Gimpyfish62]

well i can see where the confusion would arrise, they look almost identical, and then mario and luigi partners in time comes out and baby bowser literally has the exact same appearance as bowser jr...

[mooseproduce]

Well, whatever. I just think it would rule if slow characters were top tier for once, so you'd see stuff like a Fox beating a Bowser and then people are all like "OOOOOOHHH THAT FOX GOT SKILL, YO" because I am so. SO. Tired of Foxes. In both $#%@!! games.

DK is pretty damn awesome, obviously... but I want more.

[cckchang]

You said Bowser was better in Brawl.

[bah27]

Me too

[Sean945]

lol u called him boozer

[Gimpyfish62]

zomg defenders from the far away land of BC?!

[manLiMarth]

haha... gimpyfish is bloody amazing, he is limited only by Bowser. The player himself is omnipotent.

And that peach is NO pushover. He took 25th at 0C2, maybe you've heard of it?

And gimpyfish is considered to be one of the best [if not the best] boozers. He rapes way too hard.

[toontownmichael]

WHOEVERS BOWSER SUCKS LIKE SHIT!

[amished037]

Yea, he's only one of the top 5 Boozers in the world, really crappy gameplay outta him.... /end sarcasm.

Seriously, nicely done Gimpy, after that first stock, I didn't know if you had it in you.

[RedYoshi92]

good match,peach should've edgegaurded more on second stock though