The aptly named 'DrCruel' is spreading misinformation.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Fascism is corporate control of government, like here in the USA. Republicans have been purchased, they want to change the meaning of the word, so they've hired Winston Smith to be a Big Brother to FoxNews and the rest of the corporate owned media. Socialism is NOT related and IS in opposition to Fascism.
Bout is now free because, as the full documentary 'Merchant of Death' pointed out, the Bush Admin. hired Bout.
I don't, under any condition, believe Bout is innocent of arms trafficking. I believe Bout is a free man because, as Nicholas Cage's speech at the end of 'Lord of War' pointed out. "Sometimes governments need to move arms into countries without getting their hands dirty".
Is it ANY accident, that the Corporate controlled Govt. of the USA, professing to love peace but loving oil more, is letting war rage in the oil rich Sudan under Bush AND Obama? What about Iraq?
@CI9TK What about the demacraps?????? Their the good guys!! LOL!!! Right!!!!! I think dems should be hung in front of the White House!!! Start with Nancy!!!!! Dems are messing the US up!!!! Lets get rid of them!
Wake up. USA Goverment is the biggest arms supplier in the world. Everybody is using their weapons, second comes USSR. Bout is competition to USA that's why they want him.
1) The Ba'athists were (and are) socialists as well as fascists. The terms are not mutually exclusive. And "socialism" has nothing to do with why Viktor Bout is a criminal.
2) Whether or not you are a Marxist has nothing to do with why socialist theory ought to be kept separate from Marxist theory (or Bolshevik Left national socialism). But again we digress.
3) I know it's not true, and I also know he's "getting a bye" because Bout serves the interests of Marxists, not the US.
The United States is a country of 350 million people. This is one guy.
You could just as well say that the US distributes more pineapples than he does. Just as true, but that doesn't make Bout's logisatic military support for some of the most vile factions on the planet (to include, purportedly, shipments of thousands of machetes to the Rwandan genocidists) any less outrageous or criminal.
How can anyone, in good conscience, defend what this "Lord of War" does?
So, let me get this straight. You're admitting that Bout is a vile character, an enabler for mass murder - but that nothing shoudl be done about him, because the US provides weapons for ... who? The NATO powers? Taiwan? South Korea?
Not to intentionally be rude, but you have a quite perculiar sense of ethics. Nor is it an unexpected spin, given what I suspect are your ideological biases.
The Soviet union put Saddam Hussein in power and armed him for 20 years (I've literally seen the cyrillic lettering on some of his equipment, at the 1st CAV museum on Ft. Hood). The US trained Massoud's Northern Alliance forces, not those of Bin Laden al Qaeda. We certainly do arm Israel (with good reason), and sold aid to Iran partially to prevent Iraq from succeeding in their invasion of the country.
Do you really think I'm that ignorant? Is that why you're trying to scam me?
I've also seen Iraq's TOE from the Ba'ath era. They had some weapons systems from France (some Mirage jets, Exocet missiles), and some equipment from a number of other smaller players in the arms market, but nothing from the US. The closes were some "dual use" utility helicopters that were initially bought for civilian use.
The vast majority (certainly over 80%) of Iraq's military equipment came from Warsaw Pact countries, most notably the Soviet Union. That includes their poison gas.
@DrCruel We sold them poison gas to use it on the Iran. Remember the iran iraq war in the 80`s. What about the f-14???? And a butt load of 20 mm ammo. That Russian stuff was because of the arms embargo with the US.
@jason127x99 I remember the Iran-Iraq war, and that the Iraqis used sarin and tabun, which were produced by the USSR. I also remember the 500 chemical rounds the US Army found in Iraq during the Second Gulf War - all with cyrillic lettering, all from the USSR.
Saddam Hussein got his chemical weapons from the Soviet Union, not the US. Leftists will lie about this, but the evidence against the USSR is too overwhelming - especially as they were simultaenously using such weapons in Afghanistan.
There certainly was and is "something wrong" in the way socialism is practiced by Ba'athists. But that's quite outside the point.
I do think we should separate the ideas of socialism from the ideology of Marxist Bolshevism, which all too often (as is becoming apparent here) devolves into a form of Slavic fascism. Viktor Bout is an international criminal, recognized as such by Interpol, and should not be given a bye simply on the basis of a traditional Bolshevik hatred of all things American.
Russia are War criminals. Viktor bout worked with Russian government after Cold War. Viktor bout sell weapons to terrorist & rebels like the FARC, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Angola terrorist, Interhamwe, Tamili Tiger, & many more. Fuck Russia look the one who support terrorist right now-Russia. I hope Thai government sent him to death for good.
I'm shocked to see the reaction and negative remarks i've gotten. i have a much different opinion of Russians now. i regret defending russians. i guess your just lowlifes?
The hypocracy of the developed nations never seem to end ... how many guns, fighter jets, missles, etc have the first world pumped into the economies of the developing nations?
What the developed nations accuse this man of the developed nations have been doing for decades.
If England, USA, France, Germany, Etc want to own their arguments against any small arms dealer, the developed nations need to practice peace and stop polluting the wars with weapons from small to large.
so never mind right for wrong or free media? notice russia today shamelessly plays defense attorney for this criminal. i suppose his military rank in the Russian military has nothing to do with it?
Russians are worse than Americans in defending criminals. So your just all for the high crime?
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If he was supplying Colombian rebels that is very serious and a crime against Colombia, South America and the United States. Colombian rebels are members of F.A.R.C. which are drug runners with ties with Venezuala and Hugo Chavez. They are also responsible for mass murder. If that is true he should be shot in the back of the head because he is a big time criminal. Next to being in a sex ring that is a very very serious crime. Russia and Russians should not be backing this scum bag.
Mr. Bout is a business man. He simply supplies things to people who need things. Wars will happen and people will kill each other no matter where they shop.
Yeah and the United States has been supplying muderous despot Dictators the like of Suddam Hussain, Preserve Musharraf and Augusto Pinochet billions of dollars in weapons sells. The US is such a hypocrite..@!
@bluevoltaire Yeah and the United States has been supplying muderous despot Dictators the like of Suddam Hussain <<<== Is SUDDAM, SADAM's EVIL TWIN??
Bout is my hero!!! If he gets out of jail I want to buy some weapons from him!
jason127x99 1 year ago
@jason127x99 get in line!
SoulDalto 1 year ago
your right
xXmIsSiOnAry2Xx 1 year ago
Good lesson for anyone working for that snotty fuck liliputin. All of them will be brought to justice very soon
SIGURDOYVIND 1 year ago
@SIGURDOYVIND like in a billion years?
SoulDalto 1 year ago
The aptly named 'DrCruel' is spreading misinformation.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Fascism is corporate control of government, like here in the USA. Republicans have been purchased, they want to change the meaning of the word, so they've hired Winston Smith to be a Big Brother to FoxNews and the rest of the corporate owned media. Socialism is NOT related and IS in opposition to Fascism.
Bout is now free because, as the full documentary 'Merchant of Death' pointed out, the Bush Admin. hired Bout.
CI9TK 1 year ago
I don't, under any condition, believe Bout is innocent of arms trafficking. I believe Bout is a free man because, as Nicholas Cage's speech at the end of 'Lord of War' pointed out. "Sometimes governments need to move arms into countries without getting their hands dirty".
Is it ANY accident, that the Corporate controlled Govt. of the USA, professing to love peace but loving oil more, is letting war rage in the oil rich Sudan under Bush AND Obama? What about Iraq?
Question your beliefs.
CI9TK 1 year ago
@CI9TK its like you want a popcorn but you had to hired low wages labor to do the driving of corn supply, delivery and cooking...
SoulDalto 1 year ago
@CI9TK What about the demacraps?????? Their the good guys!! LOL!!! Right!!!!! I think dems should be hung in front of the White House!!! Start with Nancy!!!!! Dems are messing the US up!!!! Lets get rid of them!
jason127x99 1 year ago
Wake up. USA Goverment is the biggest arms supplier in the world. Everybody is using their weapons, second comes USSR. Bout is competition to USA that's why they want him.
barthoedemaker 1 year ago
such a broad screen and such a shitty quality
casperado666 2 years ago
1) The Ba'athists were (and are) socialists as well as fascists. The terms are not mutually exclusive. And "socialism" has nothing to do with why Viktor Bout is a criminal.
2) Whether or not you are a Marxist has nothing to do with why socialist theory ought to be kept separate from Marxist theory (or Bolshevik Left national socialism). But again we digress.
3) I know it's not true, and I also know he's "getting a bye" because Bout serves the interests of Marxists, not the US.
DrCruel 2 years ago
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trudelnicky 2 years ago
Man fuck you douchebags I say let him go.
The fucking U.S. government paid him in the past, the west is filled with fucking hypocrites.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
So speaks the Marxists.
DrCruel 2 years ago
You don't have to be a Marxist to recognize the fact that the United States deals more arms than this guy annually.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
The United States is a country of 350 million people. This is one guy.
You could just as well say that the US distributes more pineapples than he does. Just as true, but that doesn't make Bout's logisatic military support for some of the most vile factions on the planet (to include, purportedly, shipments of thousands of machetes to the Rwandan genocidists) any less outrageous or criminal.
How can anyone, in good conscience, defend what this "Lord of War" does?
DrCruel 2 years ago
lol, the fact that the US has 350 million people doesn't excuse our government from arms dealing to some of the most vile factions on the planet.
Also, you're right Bout does deal with the most vile factions as well, INCLUDING AMERICA.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
Hypocrites.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
So, let me get this straight. You're admitting that Bout is a vile character, an enabler for mass murder - but that nothing shoudl be done about him, because the US provides weapons for ... who? The NATO powers? Taiwan? South Korea?
Not to intentionally be rude, but you have a quite perculiar sense of ethics. Nor is it an unexpected spin, given what I suspect are your ideological biases.
DrCruel 2 years ago
I'm not literally saying we should let him go, that was a shock claim to get people's attention and make them think.
If you think the US only provides weapons to NATO, ROK and Taiwan you're delusional.
We've been arming tyrants and criminals for years.
You realize it was the US that put Hussein in power? Trained Bin Laden? Armed the Mujahadeen? Israel? Iran Contra?
Are you pretending these things don't happen or are you really that ignorant?
oxtwin586 2 years ago
The Soviet union put Saddam Hussein in power and armed him for 20 years (I've literally seen the cyrillic lettering on some of his equipment, at the 1st CAV museum on Ft. Hood). The US trained Massoud's Northern Alliance forces, not those of Bin Laden al Qaeda. We certainly do arm Israel (with good reason), and sold aid to Iran partially to prevent Iraq from succeeding in their invasion of the country.
Do you really think I'm that ignorant? Is that why you're trying to scam me?
DrCruel 2 years ago
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oxtwin586 2 years ago
The US and Soviets both armed Iran and Iraq at one point.
The fact that you saw soviet weapons doesn't mean they weren't receiving American aid at one point.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
I've also seen Iraq's TOE from the Ba'ath era. They had some weapons systems from France (some Mirage jets, Exocet missiles), and some equipment from a number of other smaller players in the arms market, but nothing from the US. The closes were some "dual use" utility helicopters that were initially bought for civilian use.
The vast majority (certainly over 80%) of Iraq's military equipment came from Warsaw Pact countries, most notably the Soviet Union. That includes their poison gas.
DrCruel 2 years ago
@DrCruel We sold them poison gas to use it on the Iran. Remember the iran iraq war in the 80`s.
jason127x99 1 year ago
@jason127x99 good way to get rid of w1 stock pile eh?
SoulDalto 1 year ago
@DrCruel We sold them poison gas to use it on the Iran. Remember the iran iraq war in the 80`s. What about the f-14???? And a butt load of 20 mm ammo. That Russian stuff was because of the arms embargo with the US.
jason127x99 1 year ago
@jason127x99 I remember the Iran-Iraq war, and that the Iraqis used sarin and tabun, which were produced by the USSR. I also remember the 500 chemical rounds the US Army found in Iraq during the Second Gulf War - all with cyrillic lettering, all from the USSR.
Saddam Hussein got his chemical weapons from the Soviet Union, not the US. Leftists will lie about this, but the evidence against the USSR is too overwhelming - especially as they were simultaenously using such weapons in Afghanistan.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel Chemical ALi!!! Thats a damn cool code name!!
SoulDalto 1 year ago
@DrCruel
You say this like there's something wrong with socialism.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
There certainly was and is "something wrong" in the way socialism is practiced by Ba'athists. But that's quite outside the point.
I do think we should separate the ideas of socialism from the ideology of Marxist Bolshevism, which all too often (as is becoming apparent here) devolves into a form of Slavic fascism. Viktor Bout is an international criminal, recognized as such by Interpol, and should not be given a bye simply on the basis of a traditional Bolshevik hatred of all things American.
DrCruel 2 years ago
@DrCruel
lol.
1) I didn't say what was wrong with Ba'athists, who were actually FASCISTS.
I asked what was wrong with socialism, which you dodged.
2) I'm not a Bolshevik. I'm not Russian. I'm not even European. My home is right here, in the United States.
3) He's not getting a bye on a hatred of all thigns American, he's getting a bye because America is just as guilty. And you know it.
oxtwin586 2 years ago
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Russia are War criminals. Viktor bout worked with Russian government after Cold War. Viktor bout sell weapons to terrorist & rebels like the FARC, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Angola terrorist, Interhamwe, Tamili Tiger, & many more. Fuck Russia look the one who support terrorist right now-Russia. I hope Thai government sent him to death for good.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
then go back to hell russia.lol
DDD100005 2 years ago
Hmmm.... Ok Russia Today, if you say so it must be true! Haha
olibirch 2 years ago
Okay, I will listen to the news the slaves of their former colony if you say so.
Mavlik 2 years ago
I'm shocked to see the reaction and negative remarks i've gotten. i have a much different opinion of Russians now. i regret defending russians. i guess your just lowlifes?
x11115 3 years ago
bitch, please.
BlueLotusPagana 3 years ago
The hypocracy of the developed nations never seem to end ... how many guns, fighter jets, missles, etc have the first world pumped into the economies of the developing nations?
What the developed nations accuse this man of the developed nations have been doing for decades.
If England, USA, France, Germany, Etc want to own their arguments against any small arms dealer, the developed nations need to practice peace and stop polluting the wars with weapons from small to large.
ben5017 3 years ago 2
so never mind right for wrong or free media? notice russia today shamelessly plays defense attorney for this criminal. i suppose his military rank in the Russian military has nothing to do with it?
Russians are worse than Americans in defending criminals. So your just all for the high crime?
x11115 3 years ago
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If he was supplying Colombian rebels that is very serious and a crime against Colombia, South America and the United States. Colombian rebels are members of F.A.R.C. which are drug runners with ties with Venezuala and Hugo Chavez. They are also responsible for mass murder. If that is true he should be shot in the back of the head because he is a big time criminal. Next to being in a sex ring that is a very very serious crime. Russia and Russians should not be backing this scum bag.
x11115 3 years ago
Mr. Bout is a business man. He simply supplies things to people who need things. Wars will happen and people will kill each other no matter where they shop.
pyeris 3 years ago 5
just like the child porn in Russia. you people have no shame.
x11115 3 years ago
Yeah and the United States has been supplying muderous despot Dictators the like of Suddam Hussain, Preserve Musharraf and Augusto Pinochet billions of dollars in weapons sells. The US is such a hypocrite..@!
bluevoltaire 3 years ago 12
@bluevoltaire Yeah and the United States has been supplying muderous despot Dictators the like of Suddam Hussain <<<== Is SUDDAM, SADAM's EVIL TWIN??
flyby7a 1 year ago
haha, brain-washed! NEXT!
adroj182 3 years ago