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  • no christians are real christians

  • It was actually until 1978 - the Apostle Kimball was the one to repeal this in the Mormon church.

  • Yeah Yeah...The "Everyone hates me cuz I'm black" excuse. Sharpton is such an idiot. Blacks can be members of the LDS church. There are tens of thousands of black members worldwide. What may happened 50 years ago isn't relevant to today. What happened 150 years ago isn't relevant to today. Sharpton criticizes and slanders against the Mormons, and then he has the nerve to say that he's prejudiced against?!.....It's people like Sharpton who make Christians look bad.

  • @phillyfanatic25

    Except of you ask any Mormon and they will tell you that 50 years ago it was the word of god to keep blacks out. Not only that, there is plenty of writings by many "profits" stating that Blacks could never go to heaven.

    They still will say that their church is true and have many kids going to BYU (named after a racist).

  • Yeah Yeah...The "Everyone hates me cuz I'm black" excuse. Sharpton is such an idiot. Blacks can be members of the LDS church. There are tens of thousands of black members worldwide. What may happened 50 years ago isn't relevant to today. What happened 150 years ago isn't relevant to today. Sharpton criticizes and slanders against the Mormons, and then he has the nerve to say that he's prejudiced against?!.....It's people like Sharpton who make Christians look bad.

  • @Cheshu1 You mean Mormons are not Trinitarians.

  • now where da chicken?

  • sharpton is a son of cain... dirty negro

  • And if you believe in the old testament.. which most "christians" do, youll find that the big names like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Solomon ALL HAD MULIPLE WIVES.. SO DONT TELL ME ITS NOT SCRIPTURAL. The new testament says bishops are only to have one wife.. that was the requirement for the time. Where is it condemned as a sin? Who can tell God what He can do? Why couldnt He call a prophet and why couldnt he institute practices as He sees fit, if He is all powerful? Who are you to limit Him?

  • Can someone give me a real answer? You cant use your own denomination to define others. You can only define yourself.

    Anyone that believes in the scriptures and Jesus Christ is a christian and no one else can define someone elses religion. So are jehovas witnesses christian? because they believe in some other form of christianity than baptists.. Every religion has its own interpretation so who cares? All the "christian churches have different beliefs.

  • What is a christian is a question I would like someone to answer. Episcipalians, born agains, lutherans, baptists, catholics.... all have big differences in theology... so 1) who has the right to define religions and catagorize them

    2) what makes any of the thousands of denominations of "christianity" more "christian than mormons?

    Its always the same lame answer.. mormons believe in many gods, mormons have lots of money, mormons had multiple wives, so that means their not christian.

  • Haha that was hilarious seeing sharpton squirm around and not want to answer her question. Thats how all slimy snakes are.. they jump around answers and dont want to be accountable for saying something that brings them heat. He DID NOT "raise questions about the mormon church" like he lies at the end of the vid.. They played the damn video right in from of him where he said "anyone who really believes in God will defeat him anyway,"... HOW IS THAT "RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT MORMONS?" HEs a liar

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  • MORMONS ARE THE MOST RACIST GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE WORLD...THEY MAKE THE KKK LOOK LIKE A SUNDAY SCHOOL SNACK FIGHT

  • HAHAHA! Mr. Sharpton doesn't make any sense! He's contradicting everything he said! The first guy attacks Mormons, and Sharpton goes along with him and also attacks Mormons! End of argument!

  • I think that, today, mormons have the same propensity to be racist as the general population. No more, no less. However, not long ago, the official policy of the lds church was to not alllow blacks to hold the "priesthood" in their religion. That is a fact that cannot be denied and mitt romney should address it. Sharpton is right about that.

  • Mormons aren't Christians and yes, they are bigots. all you have to do is t go back to their history. Sharpton meant what he meant! Mormons are not real worshippers of God. Polytheism, polygamy and bigotry are not of God.

  • I was raised Mormon and in very fact as soon as I was born placed between two of black babies for viewing. I only mention this being white because it is symbolic of how I was raised to love of all races exactly the same. It was my Mormon faith and mother that taught me to love all equally. To my shock and surprise I first experienced bigotry when I experienced that against my own faith from other so-called "Christian" members much later in life. I could not understand Christians doing this.

  • mormons were racist and are currently homophobic (e.g. prop 8 for gay marriage defeated by mormon activism in california 2 years ago)

  • This lady is getting owed lol

  • Hahahahaha 6:15 - 6:19

  • where can i go to see the golden tablets?

  • Even though I think Sharpton is a jackass, Mormons are a comic book cult. To be a Mormon you have to be a complete idiot and strange person to believe that Bullsht

  • man i think blacks need to stop thinking that "just because they're black" things like that happen to them. ur not gona get no where thinking that way....

  • right on Al

  • I am a Mormon and I don't like slander and lies about my religion, but what i'm really confused about is why anyone would actually Tivo CNN LOL

  • @wiseidiot5763 your religion is for fruit cakes and liars, you entire denomination is founded on lies and witchcraft read a book

  • I look at Sharpton and I see a crook trying to disguise himself. He always wears the big jewelry at black functions, and when he is to speak with whites he loses the jewelry. Hey Al, I would like to invite you to WHITE EXPO you prick. Have a Black Expo....you mean that's not racist? Have a WHITE EXPO and see what kind of hell breaks out in the media. I know alot of Blacks that are racists....I pray for the Lord to forgive them though.

  • Al is one of the Biggest racist people I've ever heard speak. But to those with a brain that can reason , he is nothing more than a little black pimple on the fat ass of society.

  • Blacks held the priesthood in the Old Testament.

    I wonder if Mormons know that?

    Its IN the Bible.

    Phinehas is a word that means in Hebrew "Dark one" and "oracle". Its from the same Egyptian word "Panehas" which means... "nubian" and "oracle".

    Nubian high priests in Egypt were around the same period. The 18th and 19th Dynasty high priests of Amun were usually the Nubians "PaNahas".

    This can be looked up in the "OXFORD history of the Bible" and the CAMBRIDGE studies of the Bible as well.

  • I wonder if Sharpton knows that blacks weren't allowed to hold The Priesthood in The Old Testament?

    God must have been "racist" back than too .LOL

  • God allowed blacks to hold the priesthood in the old testament.

    Where did you get this notion that they didn't?

  • Lying is bad enough, but lying about Christ's Church?

    That can't be good.......

  • You're right.

    Mormons are really doing a disservice to Christ's Church with their lies.

  • Not so Sharpton.

  • Mit belonged to a racist organization. The mormon church still believed blacks were not fully human and were not accepted by the gospels until the late 70's.

    Mit was in his 30s during this time. Therefore, Mit knowingly was apart of a RACIST organization and he want's people to vote for him? What a dumb ass.

    Anyone who believes the crap one must believe to be a mormon is a total nut job. South Park portrayed the mormons exactly right. Most ppl were amazed when they found out it was all true

  • Joseph Smith baptized the first Black Elder in The Church.

    His name was Elijah Abel.

  • Sharpton, we all know what you meant and so don't even try to back-pedal or explain. I'm glad Romney called you out on it because it was bigotted.

  • i am not white but i love the LDS church.. i love them...

  • Billy, you are just too loco!

  • They also think God had wives

  • you don't speak for 'them'.

    Let 'them' define what 'they' believe.

    'You believe in flying monkeys!"

  • more like you HAVE no point other than to just hate 'mormons'.

    Don't try and pretend like I'm the pathetic one---you're the one making accusations you can't back up---that's what we call 'cowardice'.

  • you're a real rebel!

    you sure showed them, eh?

  • I didn't know that I thought that!

    Thanks for the heads-up!

    Laughable!

  • did you not know that the NT was ripped off of the OT?

    That's what your statement sounds like to mormons...of course the text will be similar if it is God's words..He's an unchanging God.

  • the racism thing was changed when the mormon prophet kimble lifted it

  • it was never an issue of racism...that is how the world has categorized what the church has done--now how the church or its' members view it. We never segregated our congregations...and early mormons were driven from Missouri because they were abolitionists.

  • all i know is joseph smith taught that darker skinned people were lesser than white skinned, and prophet kimble in the 60's or 70's changed that and said ppl were equal.

  • how can you know something that isn't true?

    Where do you get your information? Joseph Smith taught no such thing---'mormons' were driven out of Missouri because they were abolitionists.

    You don't 'know' anything.

  • what do you mean..? how old are you..? just look up and read all the doctrines of joseph smith. and the prophet kimble was all over the news when he changed and said darker ppl could now be included as equal.

  • you are taking comments out of context..it was never said that 'darker people could now be included as equal'. You really ought to give direct quotations and let people decide for themselves rather than decide for them.

  • im not talking about this video. its what the mormon church believed. You must have never researched your own religion. You say im taking comments out of context which im not getting this from anyones comments. I do my own research and this isnt something thats debatible its fact that is recorder. plus my sisters ex husband left them when he found how wrong they are and how they started. This almost makes me upset when ppl hold something false so close to them.

  • You continue to make accusations that are completely unfounded and based on politically correct posturing. Let me get this straight: I am ignorantly believing in a religion instead of ignorantly taking your word for it on all of this 'research' bologna you keep spewing. What research? You read a website somewhere? I'm sure Harvard will give you an honorary doctorate! I don't care if your sisters ex-husband was on the Oprah show...am I to follow him off of a cliff as well?

  • Your just too young. black ppl werent welcome in mormonism. you just dont know cause your too young and white. Your obviously too blind to see or find out yourself. This was no website. this was what happend. it was on the news and your prophet said it. so you dont have any clue what your talking about. your ignorant because you just dont know.

  • "'Mormons' are racist! YOU WHITE PERSON!". Oh the irony. I'm almost 30 years old---certainly old enough to READ--I highly recommend it.

    Mormons were driven out of predominantly evangelical/baptist Missouri because they were abolitionists and threatened the swing state. And we have NEVER segregated our congregations...nor have I EVER witnessed any kind of racism at church.

    I didn't see racism till I moved down south (not a lot of 'mormons' down there, ya know)

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  • @blandinthebasement of course mormons in utha dont discreminate, there are no blacks. 30 yrs bullshit is just that! Bullshit!!!

  • @blandinthebasement

    Blacks were not allowed into the priesthood until 1978.  Don't be an idiot. Your religion has a longer history of oppression against Blacks and Native Americans than integration. Even the most elementary research proves your religion to be a con.

  • what am I, 13??

    At least I know how to contract 'you' and 'are'.

    I saw that segment...there was nothing racist about it. What was the quote...please...don't be so cowardly...let's hear it in context

    otherwise 'YOUR' posturing.

  • Why the heck do you keep talking about other segments, clips and websites. I'm not talking about any of that. I know the mormon church didnt accept black people as equal. and I'm not writing a term paper so dont turn this into somthing stupid like contracting you and are. This is actually getting pretty humorous.

  • If you remember your last comment, YOU brought up a television segment...which I addressed...

    You don't 'know' any such thing. Again, you have no proof. Your position is simple bigotry.

  • so because he is white that makes him ignorant is that what your are saying? also a racist?

  • i dont know where you got that from

  • Got what from? I made two statmants.

  • There is no such thing in our 'Articles of Faith'

    You can read all about our Articles of faith on the LDS website--and you will not find anything in them about black people being less...this is garbage

  • That's exactly what I was thinking when I heard that lol.

  • Lol, the policy change was in 1978, not the i the 1960s he cant even get the date right!

  • Most obvious deflection effort ever! Way to avoid addressing anything I said. So your obviously an anti-Mormon. What's sad is that you spend hours of your life fighting a church. You can't find something better to fight?...or better yet, something positive to actually promote. Pitiful.

  • Oh shut up! You've never made an argument for calling Sharpton a racist, instead you attempt to DEFLECT ATTENTION from your lack of an argument by claiming anyone with a "half-brain" knows it. *lmao*

    Actually, only someone with half a brain would make such a stupid statement and not be able to back it up. You're a smear merchant and a Mormon bigot!!

  • I'm sure you feel real smart for copying those scriptures off an anti-Mormon website...what you would consider doing your homework. While you focused on a couple Mormon bashing websites, I've studied the bible. I suppose you believe the "mark" God gave Cain to distinguish him was a mole? And if you don't believe in a God who can curse many generations for sin, you don't believe in the Old Testament.

    You don't want to argue doctrine w/ me. You're either an anti-Mormon or a black racist. Go home.

  • LDS MORMON PROPHET Brigham Young said the Africans are the SEED of CAIN!

    LDS MORMON PROPHET Brigham Young March 8,1863,stated:

    "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the AFRICAN RACE? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of CAIN, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so" (Journal of Discourses, 10:110).

    ..the LORD shall CURSE the land..A BLACKNESS came upon all the(BLACK AFRICANS)..of Canaan..(LDS Moses7:8)

  • this is surely the works of the devil!

  • I dont know what video you all are watching but he shut her down this pure pile on when a white man said the shit.always blame the nigger,bro's & sisters see how they work evil,

  • AFRICANS CURSED BLACK & FROM THE PRIESTHOOD By MORMONS

    "..CURSED..to the Priesthood..being of the(BLACK AFRICAN)lineage by which he could not have the right of PRIESTHOOD(Abraham1:26-27)"

    24..(BLACK AFRICAN)Ham,sprang that race which preserved the CURSE in the land(Abraham1:23-24)

    "..the LORD shall CURSE the land..A BLACKNESS came upon all the(BLACK AFRICANS)..of Canaan,that they were despised among all people..(Moses7:8)"

    "..seed of Cain were BLACK,and had not place among them..(Moses7:22)

  • This is not the fullness of JESUS CHRIST gospel it's Evil!

    THE MORMON GOD CURSING PEOPLE WITH DARK BLACK SKIN AS A CURSE The point is the SKIN COLOR IS DARK BLACK & it's A CURSE

    "...the Lord God did cause a skin of BLACKNESS to come upon them (Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 5:21)"

    "And the skins..were DARK,according to the MARK which was set upon their fathers..which WAS A CURSE upon them...(Book of Mormon,Alma 3:6)"

    "and the CURSING which hath come upon their skins...(Book of Mormon, Jacob 3:5)"

  • @Ilegalplayer  While you were taking verses out of context, you forgot one.

    "and he inviteth them ALL to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth NONE that come unto him, BLACK AND WHITE, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile (2 Nephi 26:33).

  • @Ilegalplayer haha yeah that's in the book of Genesis too...God definitely did that!

  • They're delusional samir, absolutely off their rockers.

    Not only did Sharpton shut her down, but Paula acted as a proxy for Hitchens, and all these alleged Christians responding attack the man who defended Christianity. *lmao* Honestly, these people are ignoramuses.

  • America,land of the greedy home of the slave!

  • Couldn't even watch the whole thing. Bogotry is sckening and Sharpton is exhibiting closed minded bigotry.  Only people who see God his way are "real Christians."

  • Sharpton is a raciest bigot... and as the ultimate weasel, instead of apologizing for a statement that is obviously of poor taste and bigoted (it's insulting that he would think we're not stupid enough to realize what he meant), he adds further insult to injury by suggesting we should be suspicious of Mitt's faith & that Romney should be interrogated to ensure he's not a racist (even though nothing he has done or said would suggest such), and Sharpton tries to pass the buck to Hitchens. Tool.

  • It must be great to live in a world of delusion! *lmao* The Mormons didn't accept Blacks into the priesthood until 1978, but Sharpton is a bigot. Their founding member, Joseph Smith, instructed followers to KILL any other member who married a Black person, but Sharpton is a bigot.

    Jumping Jesus on a pogostick... some white people are idots.

  • While history & doctrine between Mormonism and blacks is complex, those who do their homework will see that blacks (who while not priesthood bearers, were welcomed as church members) were treated far better and with more equality than most in those times.

    But history aside, your logic is that if Mormons practiced racism (along w/ the rest of the country) years ago, Sharpton shouldn't be critisized for his obvious bigotry today?! The logic w/ which you defend Sharpton is full of falicy. Moron.

  • Regardless of your attempt to spin Mormon racism by comparing it to some arbitrary measurement, it remains what it is, racism.

    Any person that points out racism & bigotry in the process of calling for justice and demanding parity is not a racist.

    People like you perversely distort the definition of the word & deem those who dare to point out racism, or its current effects, as racist. That is an ultra-defensive posture and belies claims of innocence.

    You're a hypocrite and an imbecile. :-)

  • haha! Are we talking about the same Sharpton? Did you even watch the video?

    Everyone knows Sharpton is a racist tool. The only people who won't admit it are other racist blacks who feed off victimization to pamper their feelings of entitlement, & others who are too spineless to call it out.

    The U.S. President is black...officially ending the era of "white guilt". So all you reverse discrimination racists can shut the hell up and expect to be called out for being a bigot as well as a racist.

  • It is obvious that YOU did not watch the video.

    It is also obvious that you are a Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage type, based on the weak & worn out right wing phrases you use.

    You lack the mental acuity necessary to make a cogent argument so you rely on what you think are "show stopping" non-sequitors. Unfortunately, you are no closer to refuting the racism of the Mormon church OR proving the racism of one who points it out.

    Epic Failure on your part... try again!

  • wgmyler wrote: "While history & doctrine between Mormonism and blacks is complex..."

    There is no doctrine "between" Mormons and people of African descent. However, there was Mormon doctrine from 1848 until June 8th, 1978, that "banned" Black Mormons from the priesthood (which all male Mormons over 12 hold), and from worshiping in Mormon Temples.

    That is racist and wgmyler has yet to refute that.

  • He can't refute it.

    Mormon apostle Mark E. Petersen at Brigham Young University in 1954 -- "If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there AS A SERVANT, but he will get celestial glory."

    Why isn't that a lovely sentiment coming from a self-proclaimed Christian? *lol*

    He also insists that pointing out racism makes one a racist. He has no foundation for any other argument so throws out this one & employs circular logic to prove it.

  • I don't need to make an argument for Sharpton's bigotry. Any half-brain can see that he exposes himself as a bigot, trying to use differences in Romney's faith and it's history to suggest Romney's a racists and suggesting that Mormon's aren't "real believers in God".

  • When it comes to doctrine, in the old testament, only the sons of Levi could hold the priesthood & administer in the ordinances of the tabernacle. Is that not discriminatory or sexist? The doctrine is God chooses who can hold the priesthood @ any given time.

  • true science supports true religion

  • haha 6:15 muh muhmumumuh mormons haha

  • Sharpton isn't to good at mind games. His use of Psychological warfare is wanting, he is to easy to figure out. One or two words and you know his is a racist. Psy-ops would have fired him a long time ago, not that he would have gotten the Job. He simply doesn't get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jesus is Love, Plain and simple. No need for excuses or head games. Prejudice will live on for as long as people do not recognize this fact. What motivates prejudice? Think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sharpton is f*cking racist ape.

  • How is he a racist? Mormonism isn't really a race. However, calling a black person an ape sounds pretty racist to me.

  • I believe that your religion is man made, God said only the son's of Levi can b priest, surely god believes all his creations r equal also if this is so is God a bias God or is Your GoD a bias god.

    God is none of this God is loving, kind, all knowing, forgiving,understanding, I can go on all day here but I wish to say above all God is not Bias, not racial, judges all his creatures equal , and is not in favour of any one human being above any other.

  • You mormons r RACIST. When god sent Jesus to EARTH and LUCIFER was not liked anymore U mormons claim that "god made all the bad people coloured". I know my explaination is not that good a bit choppy but thats the JIST of the argument. U MORMONS R RACIST.

  • I am Tongan and no mormons are not racists if you read... Jacob 3:3

    But, wo, wo, unto you that are not pure in heart, that are filthy this day before God; for except ye repent the land is cursed for your sakes; and the Lamanites, which are not filthy like unto you, nevertheless they are cursed with a sore cursing, shall scourge you even unto destruction.

    The son of ham weren't the only ones cursed my people the polynesian and native decendants of the americas were cursed.

  • Jacob was talking to those that were not cursed. The Lord God had his reasons for cursing our people, instead of focusing on the wrong everybody else is doing concentrate on your own house and put it in order. Look with the eyes of love and faith we should all learn to become pro-God instead of anti-enemy.

  • uh yeah the laminites..?where is teh dna/geneological evidence?sorry but teh scientific community has debunked the laminites and nephi..

  • In no way does the DNA "evidence" debunk lamanites and nephites. Do you not remember that the kingdom of judah and isreal were seperate and the 10 tribes of Isreal were carried of or left... leaving Judah (Benjamin & the Levites as well)? So if polynesians are related to asians (specifically to siberians and mongrols) so what? DNA of the Levites is different from that of the Jew (Judah). Scientists now think that the siberians came by boat to Oregon.

  • If you believe in God hasn't science "proved" that man came from monkeys? If you want to be related to a monkey go ahead... I rather believe that we are all children of God. There is no way to prove or disprove God or my beliefs except through reading, pondering and praying... I can understand where you are coming from so I write so you will see mine.

  • why do you spell "the" as teh?

  • What the sons of Ham were not able to have was the preisthood. During the biblical times the Lord God had only given the sons of Levi this. So if you have a problem with it ask God, ponder and pray. If you have any more questions just ask me.

  • This is ridiculous. Absolutely unbelievable! Mormons are not racist and never have been. And I AM a Mormon, unlike the morons on this show who are spreading lies about us.

  • I believe in God and I go for Mitt Romney! I know that the LDS church has a different view on this subject, but I also know that we are not supposed to understand all God´s ideas in this life. When Christ was on this earth he didn´t preach the gospel to anyone that was not from Israel, why did he do that? Most Christians don´t believe Christ came to America..why not? why wouldn´t he do that? Doesn´t he love we all the same? I love this church and what it has done for my life,and I love God too.

  • why wouldnt he?..becuase acts1:6-10..it clearly states he ascended to heaven from the middle east..oh even if he DID go to the americas..why would god wait until teh year 1830 to record the events..why is there no OTHER historical data..?why not?lett's seee..the native american indians didnt have the technology to make steel swords...we havent found any of the ancient"vast" cities..shalll i go on..?

  • Why would he? There are and have been ancient vast cities all over the americas... most have been destroyed by the europeans and were forgotten only to be "rediscovered" in the 19th centuary. how many swords from the greeks, vikings and romans survived. You have forgotten the winner writes history... the natives were savages according to the europeans and had to be tamed.

  • oh jesus went to the americas and restored the church...but he forgot to telll the apostles about it?WTF?

  • John 20: 30-31 30 ¶ And many other asigns truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not bwritten in this book: 31 But these are awritten, that ye might bbelieve that Jesus is the cChrist, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have dlife through his ename.

    John 21: 25 25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be awritten every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the bbooks that should be written. Amen.

  • John 10: 16 16 And aother bsheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be cone fold, and one shepherd.

  • Sharpton is very good at making everything not seem like it's his fault. What a loser...

  • Well actually ALL Al Sharpton had to do was study the Mormon scriptures and read The Curse of Cain Doctrine that is still in the Mormon scriptures to this day in the pearl of great price,what the Mormons believe is missing from the Holy Bible.Lets go read in Moses"...there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan,that they were despised among all people...(Moses 7:8).""...seed of Cain,for the seed of Cain were black,and had not place among them (Moses 7:22)."Read Abraham 1:21-27

  • The sons of Ham weren't the only ones cursed. Jacob 3:3

    But, wo, wo, unto you that are not pure in heart, that are filthy this day before God; for except ye repent the land is cursed for your sakes; and the Lamanites, which are not filthy like unto you, nevertheless they are cursed with a sore cursing, shall scourge you even unto destruction.

    Go brown people! once it was a curse but now a blessing.

  • HE'S A DUMBASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I am a fan of Al Sharpton he does a lot of good for our african-american brothers. Sharpton came to Utah and apologized and went to a family home evening. He was raised Evangelical and so he was raised prejudiced, but he has since changed.

    Hitchens on the other hand does nothing but distort religion!

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