@UnluckyClover1 ...Ne2+ Kf2 Ke8 Kxe2 c3 Kd3 b2 Bxb2 cxb2 Kc2 Kf8 Kxb2 Kg7 Ka3 Kxg6 Ka4 Kf5 Kxa5 Ke4 Kb4 Kxd4 Kb3 Kxe5 Kc3 Ke4 does win for Black. But I did not bother calculating this during the game; what I played is much safer.
@RenaissanceMan2500 Kind of confusing to follow. And you're pretty zealous with the ?s, which I tend to reserve for clearly negative moves. Thanks for commenting though.
@DarthKillu ...Kf7 attacks the pawn and prevents queening. Bh6 would then be met by b3-b2. He played the best moves but his position's dead lost at this point.
Yeah ,your right the white knight is pinned at 4:44. I maybe that's why the regular line is bishop to d2 to break the pin. And then there's more indirect pressure on d5.
I wonder why white at 4:44 in the video black did'nt take b5 with a4?If black takes back with the pawn on c6, white knight takes b5 and is up a pawn and the d5 pawn is weak and blacks queen side is vulnerable.
Absolutely dominant knight on d5 (tying white to the defense of the critical c3 pawn) with good pawns developed all on white squares.
I'd certainly have to say that you did exactly what you wanted in showing white that your knight(s) were much better than his bishop pair in this locked game.
This was fantastic. Yet again, I am wowed by your thinking. I think you should write a book and call it: "Kings Gambit Declined: Queens Gambit in the Closet. It'd be a bestseller!
After white has played his bishop to g4 at 7.03 why cant black play his pawn to f5 attacking whites queen and bishop? this looks to me like a great move, but there must be something wrong with it. Great videos, a responses welcome.
It would be a blunder due to exf6 e.p. You can't avoid a pawn's diagonal capture by moving up two squares next to it instead of one. I'm not making this up, Wikipedia "En Passant"
chess is a great game to play and something i thought about it was that chess and war are the same thing because both require strategy and intelligence
It is true that black trades the bishop for the knight as soon as the pin is broken in the mainline. However, you said yourself that this was not the mainline. The mainline I believe is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.nc3 e6 4.nf3 dc 5.a4 bb4 6. e3 b5 7.be2 a5(bb7)8.ab bxc3 9.bxc3 cb 10.b3 bb7(a5)11.bc b5 12.bb2 nf6 now there si the d5 variation and the bd3 variation.
at 6:00 you said that black has to trade. However a6 is better because after the dark squared bishop is traded the weak dark squares can be exploited with ba3 and black get an uncomfortable cramped position where white can eventually invade blacks position with the eventual push of the f pawn ruining blacks pawn structure. Therefore, it better to simply play a6 and retreat the dark bishop if necessary then continue on with the general plan of reaching an endgame and pushe the ab and c pawns.
In the mainline Noteboom Black trades as soon as it is possible for White to move the knight. In this position it is definitely possible to play ...a6 because Black already has ..Bb7 in and White has played some moves that don't help on the queenside. I don't agree with your reasoning that it is better than trading. Ba3 is not a devastating move. But you are correct in that ..a6 seems like a very reasonable alternative. White may reply Ng5, but either way it is an ok position for black
Black can hold onto the queens gambit pawn, but protecting the protecting pawn won't work, protect with the bishop. You still don't want to hold on, just saying that you can.
The comment about the similarity to the Gurgenidze is apt: I remember thinking about Fischer-Petrosian (USSR-Rest of World 1970, game 3) when I played g2-g3.
I've been looking at the theory: can't find a clear road to advantage against the Noteboom. But 4.Qc2 is no fun!
4.Qc2 is no fun for Black either though... I haven't found anything I like against that move. I've played quite a few games where I try taking on move 3: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 dxc4, but it's not that good for Black as good players will avoid Nc3 in that line.
However 3.Nc3 dxc4 is very sharp, and played at top levels all the time. Most of the time I get 4.Nf3 (to stop ...e5) and after 4..e6 it's back to a Noteboom!
4.Qc2 "according to Kramnik" 1st edition is a snooze.
Unfortunately the sharp 3.Nc3 lines are not an option for me, as I play 1.Nf3. When I played 1.d4, I loved the Marshall Attack lines 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 4.e4 (even w/o knowing more than a little theory), but got them so rarely.
thats interesting, ive started playing the qga a lot, used to play gruenfeld or pirc. This noteboom is exactly the sort of stuff i would like to play as black...the position you reached with brock is suprisingly similar to an offshot modern position, which is a transposition to an offshot caro-kann (gurgendize) when white unwisely tries to play the austrian attack against the ..c6 modern move order, even that position is considered =+ but black doesnt have the passed qside pawn
If you play a stronger player and you get down piece or two with no counterplay, just tip your king. Don't force him to trade down your army, mop up your pawns, get a queen, and force your king into checkmate. It's not chess at this level, just a mop-up operation, and you both have better things to do with your time, like maybe go over with your opponent where you went wrong in the game.
that was an outstanding video review of a great game. you are by far my favorite chess vlogger because of how clearly you explain not only the game but important variations.. please do more like this! i'm very grateful!
I must caution you, the Noteboom is a difficult opening. Don't try it out in a meaningful game until you've had the chance to practice it. In the middlegames you need to be willing to sacrifice a piece for two pawns or even an exchange in order to disrupt White's attack, then you reap your endgame advantage.
A very thematic and instructive sharing. Thanks. 1 thing about the Queen's gambit is that White must be careful about the c4 pawn in certain Semi-Slav variations (...c6)
@GreenCastleBlock At 7:11, why didn't you move your F7 pawn up to F5, attacking? white's bishop and queen?
pinkfloydfan417 1 year ago
@pinkfloydfan417 Look up the "En Passant" rule and you will understand.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
@GreenCastleBlock Oh, I already know En Passant. I just missed that.
Awesome game, by the way!
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lance1236451 1 year ago
good commentary, where can i find more of your games?
Opeeumm 1 year ago
@Opeeumm Thanks. Check out my channel. I assign my content into playlists so you can find what you want.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
Instead of running back with your king couldn't you just have went to Ne2 and forked his bishop then run back with your king?
UnluckyClover1 1 year ago
@UnluckyClover1 ...Ne2+ Kf2 Ke8 Kxe2 c3 Kd3 b2 Bxb2 cxb2 Kc2 Kf8 Kxb2 Kg7 Ka3 Kxg6 Ka4 Kf5 Kxa5 Ke4 Kb4 Kxd4 Kb3 Kxe5 Kc3 Ke4 does win for Black. But I did not bother calculating this during the game; what I played is much safer.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
@GreenCastleBlock Ah Ok Thanks for clearing that up.
UnluckyClover1 1 year ago
@GreenCastleBlock Ah, Ok thanks. Thanks for the video too.
UnluckyClover1 1 year ago
Hi. Just a few observations about the game. The opening was good. 11...Nd7? Now not 12Qc2!? but 12. Ba3 13. Ng5? (13. Ba3 0-0 14. Ng5 Nf5 15. Qd2 Re8 16. Bh5 g6 17. Be2) 16. Bd2 is passive.16. Bf3. 16...a6?is slow. (16...a5 17. Rfb1 Qd7 18. Bf3 0-0 is fine for black )17. Bg4? doesn't feel right 17. Ra2. 17...Qc7?! 17...0-0 18. f4? 18. Bf3= . 18...g6? 18...0-0. 19. Be2!? 19. Bf3.20. g3? 20. Bf3. 21. h3? 21. Bf3. 24.Rf2? 24. Rfb1. 24...Nb6? 24...Ne2+. 25. Rg2? 25. Be1. Good game thought.
RenaissanceMan2500 1 year ago
@RenaissanceMan2500 Kind of confusing to follow. And you're pretty zealous with the ?s, which I tend to reserve for clearly negative moves. Thanks for commenting though.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
at 10:15, why wouldnt white move g6 to g7 instead of moving the king closer?
DarthKillu 1 year ago
@DarthKillu ...Kf7 attacks the pawn and prevents queening. Bh6 would then be met by b3-b2. He played the best moves but his position's dead lost at this point.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
@GreenCastleBlock oh, i didnt think about that, good thinking
DarthKillu 1 year ago
At 7:05 why not play pawn to f5, forking white's queen and bishop?
VitalSigns1 1 year ago
@VitalSigns1 en passant
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
Yeah ,your right the white knight is pinned at 4:44. I maybe that's why the regular line is bishop to d2 to break the pin. And then there's more indirect pressure on d5.
johndeerishere 1 year ago
@johndeerishere
I meant to say maybe that's why the regular line is d2 to break the pin.
johndeerishere 1 year ago
I wonder why white at 4:44 in the video black did'nt take b5 with a4?If black takes back with the pawn on c6, white knight takes b5 and is up a pawn and the d5 pawn is weak and blacks queen side is vulnerable.
johndeerishere 1 year ago
@johndeerishere
I meant at 4:44 why did'nt white take b5 with a4. Sorry.
johndeerishere 1 year ago
@johndeerishere axb5 is a committal move. Since the white N can't also take on b5 (it's pinned) there is no reason for White to make this trade now.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
hi exelant vesoi thank u!
what is your elo ratong or what does your elo rating need to be n order to play the way you showed at the vedio?
it is important thx!!
and thanks agen for the eelant vedio
singking999 2 years ago
Absolutely dominant knight on d5 (tying white to the defense of the critical c3 pawn) with good pawns developed all on white squares.
I'd certainly have to say that you did exactly what you wanted in showing white that your knight(s) were much better than his bishop pair in this locked game.
0p14te 2 years ago
thanks!
pompel2pilt 2 years ago
nive vid
jakzeee 2 years ago
Awesome game.. Keep making great videos..
topshonuff 2 years ago
This was fantastic. Yet again, I am wowed by your thinking. I think you should write a book and call it: "Kings Gambit Declined: Queens Gambit in the Closet. It'd be a bestseller!
bacon8787 2 years ago
That makes zero sense from a chess perspective but somehow I think you are right.
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
After white has played his bishop to g4 at 7.03 why cant black play his pawn to f5 attacking whites queen and bishop? this looks to me like a great move, but there must be something wrong with it. Great videos, a responses welcome.
shoulderhair 2 years ago
It would be a blunder due to exf6 e.p. You can't avoid a pawn's diagonal capture by moving up two squares next to it instead of one. I'm not making this up, Wikipedia "En Passant"
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
Of course! Thank you
shoulderhair 2 years ago
thanks
mutantlinks 2 years ago
chess is a great game to play and something i thought about it was that chess and war are the same thing because both require strategy and intelligence
monkeykillz23 2 years ago
ok.
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
It is true that black trades the bishop for the knight as soon as the pin is broken in the mainline. However, you said yourself that this was not the mainline. The mainline I believe is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.nc3 e6 4.nf3 dc 5.a4 bb4 6. e3 b5 7.be2 a5(bb7)8.ab bxc3 9.bxc3 cb 10.b3 bb7(a5)11.bc b5 12.bb2 nf6 now there si the d5 variation and the bd3 variation.
darkness446919 2 years ago
at 6:00 you said that black has to trade. However a6 is better because after the dark squared bishop is traded the weak dark squares can be exploited with ba3 and black get an uncomfortable cramped position where white can eventually invade blacks position with the eventual push of the f pawn ruining blacks pawn structure. Therefore, it better to simply play a6 and retreat the dark bishop if necessary then continue on with the general plan of reaching an endgame and pushe the ab and c pawns.
darkness446919 2 years ago
In the mainline Noteboom Black trades as soon as it is possible for White to move the knight. In this position it is definitely possible to play ...a6 because Black already has ..Bb7 in and White has played some moves that don't help on the queenside. I don't agree with your reasoning that it is better than trading. Ba3 is not a devastating move. But you are correct in that ..a6 seems like a very reasonable alternative. White may reply Ng5, but either way it is an ok position for black
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
why is this called the abrahams variation on my cpu
k17dudeP 3 years ago
o never mind the noteboom is also referred to as the abraham variation
k17dudeP 3 years ago
Black can hold onto the queens gambit pawn, but protecting the protecting pawn won't work, protect with the bishop. You still don't want to hold on, just saying that you can.
srn347 3 years ago
Thank you for sharing this great game and excellent analysis!!
It would be nice if you could make a video just on a study of the noteboom, if you have time!
Keep up the great work!!
hiwesdavz 3 years ago
good game! do you think you could make a whole video on the noteboom slav?
MAfr3ak 3 years ago
Good job, Matt.
The comment about the similarity to the Gurgenidze is apt: I remember thinking about Fischer-Petrosian (USSR-Rest of World 1970, game 3) when I played g2-g3.
I've been looking at the theory: can't find a clear road to advantage against the Noteboom. But 4.Qc2 is no fun!
billbrock1958 3 years ago
4.Qc2 is no fun for Black either though... I haven't found anything I like against that move. I've played quite a few games where I try taking on move 3: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 dxc4, but it's not that good for Black as good players will avoid Nc3 in that line.
However 3.Nc3 dxc4 is very sharp, and played at top levels all the time. Most of the time I get 4.Nf3 (to stop ...e5) and after 4..e6 it's back to a Noteboom!
4.e4 is the best move though.
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
4.Qc2 "according to Kramnik" 1st edition is a snooze.
Unfortunately the sharp 3.Nc3 lines are not an option for me, as I play 1.Nf3. When I played 1.d4, I loved the Marshall Attack lines 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 4.e4 (even w/o knowing more than a little theory), but got them so rarely.
billbrock1958 3 years ago
thats interesting, ive started playing the qga a lot, used to play gruenfeld or pirc. This noteboom is exactly the sort of stuff i would like to play as black...the position you reached with brock is suprisingly similar to an offshot modern position, which is a transposition to an offshot caro-kann (gurgendize) when white unwisely tries to play the austrian attack against the ..c6 modern move order, even that position is considered =+ but black doesnt have the passed qside pawn
idlenessss 3 years ago
i hate resigning and I hate when they resign.
raquijada 3 years ago
Resigning is a sign of respect.
If you play a stronger player and you get down piece or two with no counterplay, just tip your king. Don't force him to trade down your army, mop up your pawns, get a queen, and force your king into checkmate. It's not chess at this level, just a mop-up operation, and you both have better things to do with your time, like maybe go over with your opponent where you went wrong in the game.
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
at 7:15 you could of have moved f pawn to f5 and you could of had a free peice of iether bishop or qween! you should have dont that
lenoxballin144 4 years ago
...f5 is met by exf6. Look up En Passant on Wikipedia (won't let me post the link for some reason)
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
when you were commenting on the queens gambit accepted when you moved your pawn to e3 why is that not a good move?
theuppercut 4 years ago
1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 is fine (in fact this is what I play), but it is not regarded as the best (3.Nf3 is).
3...e5 and White should take an IQP with 4.Bxc4 exd4 5.exd4 Nf6.
If instead 4.dxe5, Qxd8+ 5.Kxd8 Be6 is good for Black.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
at 7:15 why didnt you attack his queen and bishop with c5?
urmomiscoolinbed 4 years ago
...f5 is met by exf6 en passant.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Nice one keep up the good work
brucewallace2 4 years ago
thanks, i like the vid, please more:)
Torreslau 4 years ago
enjoyed the vid - demonstrated some very nice concepts
badmephisto 4 years ago
that was an outstanding video review of a great game. you are by far my favorite chess vlogger because of how clearly you explain not only the game but important variations.. please do more like this! i'm very grateful!
vesper8 4 years ago
Great game! (Nooteboom, named after a Dutch chess talent who died at a young age, is pronounced as "no-teh-bome ;) )
Adunatos 4 years ago
I knew about Daniel Noteboom but I did not know that is how he pronounced his name. As an American, you can't expect me not to say NOTE BOOM :-D
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Nice game, quite well explained.
Synestesis 4 years ago
awesome, thanks for post
DW8814 4 years ago
hey thx for that vid that was a great game i need to try this opening the next time i have a like-queens gambit opening!
theuppercut 4 years ago
I must caution you, the Noteboom is a difficult opening. Don't try it out in a meaningful game until you've had the chance to practice it. In the middlegames you need to be willing to sacrifice a piece for two pawns or even an exchange in order to disrupt White's attack, then you reap your endgame advantage.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing your game and insight on the positions throughout.
lisyaron 4 years ago
great video thanks
laserchipmunk2 4 years ago
Very glad to see you back in action with videos GreenCastle! Great game and analysis!
jrobichess 4 years ago
A very thematic and instructive sharing. Thanks. 1 thing about the Queen's gambit is that White must be careful about the c4 pawn in certain Semi-Slav variations (...c6)
I would also be hoping to see more 1.e4 games!
ongyj 4 years ago
fantastic game w/ great commentary
macnolds 4 years ago
GO PULLIN!
fleur3223 4 years ago
really instructive. thanks
Nathan411466 4 years ago
Great vid, much thanks for sharing
davisville17 4 years ago
yey!
Masky 4 years ago
great to have you back
thunderhead27 4 years ago