The socialist views the government as the end-all be-all, as such they do not separate science from government. Witness global warming. That he tried to put that characteristic on Mr. Friedman was quite comical.
it's awesome how they have notes, and have had time to prepare their whole arguments, while Friedman has nothing but his knowledge in the fields they're debating.. and he still wins.
The floppy haired blonde is ridiculous!!! He has just come out trying to disprove and make Milton looked silly. That is stupid, you will get owned and he did. He is an idiot. Just look at his jumper!
Look at Chile vs other countries in that region . History again prove Friedman correct.Why don't people understand this the man argued the past and was right ... 30 year later his economic views have proven correct so can we please start adopting them and become more prosperous and help raise the poor up to higher standards of living... please.
The conditions of Iceland today are so great thanks to Milton Friedman and his genius. I only wish the path of the U.S. the last 4 years could follow that of Iceland's...
@immanuelkant1 Impossible. Larger country, money controlled by a private entity (FED), Europe central banks, and corrupt politicians. America is run by corporations and monitored by the CIA. No way in hell could it be like Iceland, Sweden or any normal country.
The blond guy is a total idiot. Milton is never political with his arguments. The blond guy is trying to be political. Milton is a free capitalistic political atheist.
@911Dagur They should of ran clips from this as smear ad against the blonde douchebag maybe he would not have gotten elected the way he made an ass out of himself.
Milton nailed it, the blond guy just talks about politics. Economics is a science, and certain tenants cannot be challenged in reality, but only in politics.
Great debate Louie and Guitar. I agree with guitar. Louie you admirably defended socialism with good intentions. And not the typical "the people are to stupid" rhetoric.
Oddly enough it is only your lack of understanding of fractional reserve lending and derivatives that stop you from seeing the bigger picture.
Watch the Money Masters here on YouTube. Phenomenal historic look at the men who controlled the currency.
The Fed the IMF the BIS the World Bank all are enslaving the third world coun
@poppanolan Wow how did you read into my post that I am a socialist. I am a dedicated capitalist, that just happens to be anti globalizaion. I understand francional reserve banking and derivatives. You need to watch the Brooksley Born video. Could you answer me a question, is ameican companys manufacturing in china using .20/hr. labor, and shipping the product back to the U.S considered trade. I don't see how that economy killing activity could be considered trade.
@louiethegreater No I view Liberty Pen videos. Only intellegent people need watch Milton Friedman. People who understand history and economics. Stay away from here. Go watch Obama videos. Stay off intellectuals sites
@SuperGuitarman69 Wow: did you say intellectual sites, That statement alone puts you in the functioning moron category, why don't you just go strum your guitar, and yodel.
@louiethegreater Hitler youth? You are comparing Milton Friedman to the Hitler youth? Are you the DUMBEST PERSON ON EARTH? Milton Friedman is the ONLY voice of freedom that could speak as clearly as this. Milton wiped these 3 men up. He is about freedom and liberty. If you do not understand that? Then you are an enemy of freedom and liberty. And that? You are an enemy of humanity!
@SuperGuitarman69 and you must belong to the local drama club. The brainwashing of the Friedman followers, is the same as the brainwashing done by Joseph Goebbles on the Hitler Youth. Friedman is about deindustrializing America, and giving american jobs to .20/hr. third world labor markets. He was sponsered by multinational corporations and jewish investment houses. If you were slower to call other folks stupid and quicker to recognize your own stupidity you would know that.
@louiethegreater Oh my god. Are you declared mentally unstable? He is backed by me. An economics and Computer Science major who happened to wind up in the free market as a professional session guitar player. So the fact that they back Milton has no bearing on my views in the least. Why? Because I am for freedom. I am completely in the being of my soul against big government. I am for freedom. He is an Austrian economists. I've studied economics. Austrain is the only system that allows.. part1
@SuperGuitarman69 The only thing your ever majored in was ignorance. You are not against big government you are against you own government. There is a difference you know. You are a globalist who supports deindustrialization of your own country and have little regard for those who earn their living in manufacturing.
@louiethegreater freedom by people to pursue their own goals and ambitions. Will there be rich and those that are poor? Of course. No system is perfect. But you give me the choice between living free in a country that sets the rules as such that you can be anything you want to be or one that provides par or sub par entitlements ie... healthcare etc... I will choose freedom over a tyrannical government that can tell me what to do. That is slavery. You are brainwashed. Milton is 100% correct!!
@SuperGuitarman69 I would say you are a multinational lap dog just like Freidman. You act as if you know the end result of globalization and free trade. If you were really paying attention to anything other than your own fantacies you would know that Free Trade and globalization has produced a trillion dollar trade deficet, 1 in 5 unemployed americans, open borders, foreign invasion of our southern borders. You are a very slow person.
@louiethegreater And no. If you lower taxes on business and cut the SS, medicare, entitlements completely out of the federal budget and leave it to the individuals to provide for themselves? Then you will have businesses staying in THIS country. Why do they leave? They are seeking to maintain profits for the people that have stock in that company. They are avoiding higher taxes to pay for government programs. Cut that? Were rich. All of us. Government is why businesses leave. Pull you head out
@SuperGuitarman69 You mean if you starve 50 million amercians multinationals might stay in the U.S. There is a better way than that to keep them here. Simply add a tariff to the products they manufacture using 20/hr. labor. That would send them racing back to the good ole USA. Don't complain about folks on subsistance untill the country has done all it can to provide jobs for them. Outsourcing 40,000 manufacturing faciities is not providing jobs for american citize Quit focusing on the top 2%.
@louiethegreater You must be young. Or just plain stupid. People like you make me i'll. Ya know the government of Cuba agree with you. Perhaps you would find a more Utopian economic existence there. Ever thought about defecting? Would love for you to be happy
@SuperGuitarman69 The government of Cuba was produced by the stupidity of people like you. Catro actually objected to the U.S. businesses making second class citizens out of his countrymen in their own country, and making whores out of the Cuban women.
Castro kicked the IMF and World Bank out of his country, he actually believed Cubas resources belinged to the Cuban people, instead of international bankers ( Friedmans Crowd) You are far to uninformed to be talking about Cuba.
@louiethegreater You are a communist. Tariffs? Government controlling free trade? You glorify Castro? Look at Cuba now. Batista was no saint. But with free trade with the USofA on the horizon the Cuban people stood a fighting chance. Now? They drive cars from the 1950's. There economy is controlled by central government. They live in poverty. Not American style poverty which is not owning a color tv set. Cuban poverty, starvation and serfdom looming over their heads. Milton Friedman and I Part1
@SuperGuitarman69 You are for government supporting the outsourcing 40,000 factories, U.S. government gave tax breaks to certain industries to assist in our deindustrialization. Cubas condition today is caused by International Bankers and the US Government squeezing them to become part of globlization. Just like they are Venezuela and Iran. If our military was not in Iraq and Afganistan now, they would be in Venezuela or Iran, making the world safe for globalization. Central planning is not the
@louiethegreater to abolish the fed. I told you what will keep companies here. You prefer to villianize companies. There is no such thing as companies. There are only people. And you want to villianize people. Shameful and dangerous. Friedmans crowd is not international bankers. He was not for the NWO> YOU ARE. We want to abolish the Fed. You are a communist who has no business living in this country. You are the very thing that will cause a revolution. If RP doesn't get elected. Part 2 of 3
@louiethegreater You want global communism. You are not only foolish, you are dangerous to our soveirgnty and freedoms. Your opinions are exactly why we are in the situation that has caused the NWO to gain ground on American freedoms. We are it, the last hope of the world. YOU? You will be fought. You will be ushering in those in the same light as the founders of our country seen in their own eyes. I'm am a constitutionalist. You are a foolish stupid progressive. You will be fought.
@SuperGuitarman69 You are a part of global socialism, a global plantation controlled by the global elitist. The free flow of capital, goods and services, and labor across national borders is free trade ideology. That alone produces global wages, global ethnicity, ect. That is socialism. Tell me would you rather the Chines got a raise or your countryment take a pay cut. Friedmant would say americans talke a pay cut. You should really take a course in patriotism 101.
@louiethegreater Freedom is what Milton Friedman advocates. Your whole view is 180% wrong. I have a degree in economics. I have followed economic history and political pressures to adopt keyensian theory. You are beyond Keyensian theory. You are for global communism. Free trade has nothing to do with governments. Tariffs do nothing to promote freedom only to enslave. Look no further than the examples you gave. Unbelievable how wrong you are. Might be the single most misguided person I've met
@SuperGuitarman69 Friedman had a degree in economics too. The US protected our markets untill the 1970s, they protected them with tariffs. It wasn't untill Free Trade became the craze that outsourcing began. Remember Free trade is a theory only it has never been implemented anywhere in the world, and never will, as long as there are nationstates. You have had all common sense, and patriotism educated out of you. You do not care about those in america who earned their living in manufacturing.
@louiethegreater You are no patriot. Control over us and free trade is not patriotism. We have had regulation to crush our freedoms and independance. Government is the problem not trade. Tariffs are the worst thing you can do to a country. Tariffs and taxation. Which you support both. The free market is voting with dollars. Yes we were free markets until 29'. After? Series of government influence and the Rothschilds bank. Free market keeps prices in check and prevents monopolies. part 1
@louiethegreater You actually think that government does good? Where? I've yet to see it. No where except militarily. No other argument can be made for federal intervention. Do you even understand the basics of economics? There is a video called Economics in one lesson on here I was told. Watch that then think. Also watch The Obama Deception. That explains NWO in fairly good detail. Not scientifically but more on the realism of the end goal. End Game too. You need to learn what a patriot is
@SuperGuitarman69 Isnt that just like a Friedman worshiper. The country can totally destroy working americans, through outsourcing, but if one deterrent like a tariff is mentioned, some brain washed Freidmonite, starts yelling fowel. You need to read Ha-Joon Chang's book "Bad Samaritans" he gives a honest assessment of the U.S use of tariffs in the past. Amazing how you would accuse me of being a communist when you advocate the most glamorous display of socialist tendencies I have heard.
@louiethegreater Socialism has nothing to do with Tariffs being enforced or not. Socialism is based on government governance in our lives. Are you for real? I think you are pulling my leg. This is actually making me laugh. If you are I'm done with this. I know it cannot be real because either you are allowed to use the funny farm computer once a week or your just playin around.
@SuperGuitarman69 What are you talking about, who said anything about socialism relivant to tariffs. Tariffs does protect american labor from the raviges of cheap third world labor. You honestly believe multinationals moving to .20/hr labor markets should not pay a tariff when they ship the products back into the country. If you do not than you are a citizen of the world and not an american.
@louiethegreater Absolutely not. Tariffs are not protection for jobs. In the least. Incentives in areas in the United States and low corporate taxes keep them here. Not only here but in their best interest to hire skilled labor at competetive wages. Tariffs would yet again drive up the cost of the products. Which what good would it do the citizen if he has to pay a higher cost? Something at 20$ would be 60$ with tariffs. Oh yeah that's patriotism. And for other countries.... part1
@SuperGuitarman69 Multinations maintained production in the U.S. for two hundred years because of tariffs or the threat of tariffs. Yes consumers might pay more, but we really don't know that because many products do not have an american made comparison. The employees of the 40,000 manufacturing facilitise probably half of them is on public assistace now , plus all those who were just generationally on public assistance, so acctually the government is buying the walmart products they spend on.
@louiethegreater shipping products here? If we tax the shit out of them who pays? WE DO. The price of the product rises. See, you are only one side thinking. That is not economics. You get government out of the way. Allow companies to compete. Allow them to stay here with low regulations and taxes. That affords the companies better skilled workers at a competetive wage and the shareholders a profit and the consumer a fair price. There you go sport.
@SuperGuitarman69 So do we maintain 20% unemployment so 80% can buy cheap Walmart products. Quit telling me how I think, you are the one sided thinker, you have been brainwashed by austian economic philosophy, which is only a theory, futrhermore the more the country embraces that philosophy the harder life is for a segment of its ctizens. Heres correct thinking, after full employmet all public assistance for able bodied people should be stopped. Outsourcing jobs is not the way to accomplish tha
@louiethegreater We have that now. Why? Taxes on businesses. I owned one. It closed. Because of regulations and taxes. Jobs were lost. And with deregulation on business and NO government interferance? You can compete with Walmart.
@SuperGuitarman69 Your business probably failed because of lack of focus, sounds like you have lots going on in your life, and getting a business up an going takes total dedication and lots of capital.
@louiethegreater lack of focus huh? No it came down to taxes and regulations period. Government needs to be out of the way. Cut entitlements and government programs. Abolish the fed, leave the market place in the hands of the people. It will straighten out. I want to repeal EVERYTHING after 1929. Including every last thing that was done by Obama. The only thing that should remain is where we.ve come from in regards to racial relations. Everything else? Gone!!!
@SuperGuitarman69 Obama is showing why he was allowed by global elitist to be president. His using our justice department to stride down , is treated like racial bigots. Taxes and regulation is not why you failed, or none would succeed. I am all for ending entitlements, government programs, ect. as soon as anyone wanting a job can find one. You know that will not happen without protecion from cheap labor.
@louiethegreater If you really knew the ends and outs of the minimum wage you would realize it is the biggest lie ever bestowed on the American public. Hell ther is a musicians union in Nashville right now that is killing the labels. They are consolodating and cannot keep up with the musicians wages that are mandated. When times are rough many do not work because of this. We cannot on our own negotiate with the labels independantly to agree on a fair wage in the economic crisis we all face part1
@louiethegreater There is truth to what you say about the global elitists. We are controlled by a small elite. The banks. I'm all for abolishing the Fed. But, in it's place small government and free markets. Let the people compete. Buisnesses and labor negotiate their own wages. Free from middle men. When I go scab in Nashville and many of us do. I wind up making way more money. In fact, I'm going to be on a rock tour this year. I negotiated a buy out of 124k for a 6 month stint. Union? 23k
@SuperGuitarman69 I must admit you make all the noises a scab does. Labor Unions producted the american middleclass, there is a unity produced by unions that cannot be accomplished by an individual. So far I see you as being pro business, anti labor, a have no loyalties, without honor, will do anything for money. My desire would be to see the country have full employment, our borders secured, and limited foreign exposure to our markets.
@louiethegreater Well at least there are a few things we agree on. Labor unions? Absolutely not. It's mafia, the labor union leaders get rich and work the workers into a frenzy. Promise them the world then put businesses under. What good is a union when you DON'T HAVE A JOB! One word Detriot! Nuff said
@SuperGuitarman69 I might add, what good is cheap products, if you don't have a job, or enough money to buy them regardless of price. You have fell for the global rhetoric hook, line and sinker. The condition of Detroit was not the fault of labor unions, it was the fault of globalizaiton, the liberalization of our markets, free trade. Japanes car makers were all free access to our markets while they charged 50% tariff on american cars. Now Toyota is No. 1 proof that protecting industries work.
@louiethegreater Oh and louie. I am forced to be in the Union. I cannot work unless I'm in the union. My point was, that even the most hardcore union supporters in my industry are going scab to feed their families in this economy. The labels simply cannot afford the union rates at the moment. So we are making up for it by charging more when we know we can. Funny, were making more money than we were by freelancing and negotiating our own prices. And in this economy? Telling isn't it?
@SuperGuitarman69 Why don't you free lance, without becoming a union member. If you are going to call scabing freelancing why do you confuse the issue. I call it promoting ones self interest, above the good of the whole. Which is a display of ones character
@louiethegreater Ok, you are still not getting it. I'm correct on Unions. In the studio, you can only get paid by the Union. Your check goes through the Union. If you do not pay union dues you do not get paid. It's fine when you have work not when you don't. So we all go "off the card" to make it. When the economy's great we are stiffled in what we can make. Secondly, so we stop shipping cars to Japan? What will happen to the workers that loses thier job because our gov is playing war withJapan
@SuperGuitarman69 You can only get paid if the union places you in a union job, therefore you belong to the union; right. So the union actually hires you, and bills the studio on your behalf. Sounds more like an employment agency than a union. Are you sure you don't have the two confused. Employment Agencies operate the same way, do you have an objecion to them. Placing temps, with low pay no benefits is big business in the area I live in. Bet you don't object to that.
@louiethegreater No, they do not get us jobs. Never had never will. They set the prices and conditions of when where and how we are to be paid, how much, and in the fashion of when. It is a union. It controls us and all of Nashville. And if someone is hungry and needs to eat? You are against temp agencies? What let them be homeless? It's their choice to work a temp job. What you would rather have them sit at home and live off me and my neighbors tax dollars? So you are for unions?
@louiethegreater Ah ha. No unions do not provide jobs. In my industry they find no jobs for anyone. The people that provide me with a job? The free market. I have to negotiate my market price. I am better than 99% on the planet in what I do. So I should be making less than someone not as qualified? Or they get the job and paid equally as me? No NO NO. That is not fair at all. Yet it is exactly how it is set up
@SuperGuitarman69 Hay, sounds like it is great to be special, unfortunately it's unions for the other 99%. Most folks are average, they make up that 99% that forms unions.
@louiethegreater Yes but why do they make the same as I do. Wages are set. Why do I have to work for the same amount of money? Shouldn't I make more? But noone has to pay me more because the wages are set. Seems awfully unfair wouldn't you say? The free market certainly would adjust it's wages on the basis of ability. But sadly because of the confines of a Union it doesn't allow for that. Perhaps some do not belong in the industry at all? There is a ton of truth in that statement
@SuperGuitarman69 Super talents usually excell to the top. Is it possible you just have an ego problem, and the union is actually getting you higher wages than you normally would get.
@louiethegreater Lol, no ego problem here. I've been doing this since I was 8 years old. Unfortunantly music is subjective. You have guitarists out there such as Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton, Jimi and the rest of them that people who have no business judging talent says they are the greatest in the world. Actually? Far from it. Not even in the top 10,000 I would say. Music isn't a sport. And no. I'm not making close to what I should be. But I do make 6 figures. My channel has vids on it.
@SuperGuitarman69 Eric Clapton was a talent, that played the guitar. Is that what you are, or are you a guitarist. I am happy for you that your are making 6 figure income. Hope you make much more.
@louiethegreater i do agree. I want the companies here. However, due to economics and the understanding of how economics and free trade and investments shareholderism work. I disagree how to get there. This isn't a people problem or company problem, it is a government regulation tax problem. I emplore you to watch "The Fall of the Republic." It is an Alex Jones film and he used to be thought of as a global conspiracy crack pot. However, now? Many people are awakening to the truth
@SuperGuitarman69 You are wrong this is a neo- liberal globalization problem. Taxes and regulation has nothing to do with it. The exploitation of the third world, the plundering of their resources, and pressure by developed contries to force the emerging economies to liberalize there markets is the problem.
@louiethegreater I have to Disagree, the exploitation of the Third World has brought them to Prosperity. Ask China how they feel about the US "Exploiting" their Labour force which is flourishing and in a few years a True balance of Powers will be created. what the US is doing by Importing everything from China is sending their money to China which is creating a Shift in Power. Third World countries can only Benefit when Western industry are moved into their countries.
@armeniantamara China loves the multinational corporations exploiting their labor force, as a matter of fact the Communist Chinese offered their peasant populaitons to multinatinationals. As a result the Chinese economy has had substantial growth. I hope your are not stupid enough to believe that GDP has helped the Chinese people across the the board. The same people who posessed the wealth in China before they, and multinational corps, recieved the redistribution of the amer. middleclass wealth
@armeniantamara Is multinational corporations manufacturing in Asia and shipping the products back to the U.S. considered trade, most of them are or were domestic companys.
@louiethegreater What you are advocating is communism. In spite of ones skills they should contribute without malice and desire for compensation for their efforts. Hence why you have to have guns and walls and force someone who shows the nature and ability for medicine to go to school half their lives, only to be paid the same amount as the guy digging the ditch
@SuperGuitarman69 I advocate capitalism, but you are not a capitalist you are a globalist. Capitalism is as good as the folks running the corporations and businesses. Capitalism worked for america when corporate CEOs considered themselves citizens of a country, not citizens of the world. Today CEO anounce they are closing ameican operations and moving offshore, the next day their stock go through the ceiling, with no reguard whatsoever for the thousands of ameican labor left behind.
Friedman was a great man, particularly right before he died compared to when he was younger. But, there really were better economists even before him in Hayek and Mises.
@jasonprall11 Yes it is. Wiki reads: "Friedman was born in Brooklyn, New York, to recent Jewish immigrants Jenő Friedman and Sára Landau Logic from Beregszász in Hungary (now Berehove, part of Ukraine), both of whom worked as dry goods merchants."
The panel opposing Friedman has squandered their time, all of this debate is about bashing Friedman, and are we to believe their views are somehow correct by default? I believe they didn't want their views held up under the examination of this great economist. At the end of the series I only knew a great deal more about the views of Milton Friedman and that they really held up under scrutiny. Thats fine though, I really don't care what the rest of the panel believes.
The blonde dumbass on the right is the most arrogant prick I have ever seen
Piaggiog 1 month ago
I can't stop looking at their feet going up and down.....
svendavidsson 1 month ago
The socialist views the government as the end-all be-all, as such they do not separate science from government. Witness global warming. That he tried to put that characteristic on Mr. Friedman was quite comical.
gdbalck 5 months ago
it's awesome how they have notes, and have had time to prepare their whole arguments, while Friedman has nothing but his knowledge in the fields they're debating.. and he still wins.
daPlumber702 5 months ago 4
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jobbins008 6 months ago
The floppy haired blonde is ridiculous!!! He has just come out trying to disprove and make Milton looked silly. That is stupid, you will get owned and he did. He is an idiot. Just look at his jumper!
Tracywithafacey 7 months ago
Look at Chile vs other countries in that region . History again prove Friedman correct.Why don't people understand this the man argued the past and was right ... 30 year later his economic views have proven correct so can we please start adopting them and become more prosperous and help raise the poor up to higher standards of living... please.
jetrpg22 7 months ago in playlist Milton Friedman - Iceland 3
Goddammit, let him speak already!
fab006 10 months ago 2
where are this dilettante now? Iceland banks collapsed . and Europe is next.
jeannedellphotograph 10 months ago
The conditions of Iceland today are so great thanks to Milton Friedman and his genius. I only wish the path of the U.S. the last 4 years could follow that of Iceland's...
immanuelkant1 11 months ago
@immanuelkant1 Impossible. Larger country, money controlled by a private entity (FED), Europe central banks, and corrupt politicians. America is run by corporations and monitored by the CIA. No way in hell could it be like Iceland, Sweden or any normal country.
votumseparatum1 10 months ago
The blond guy is a total idiot. Milton is never political with his arguments. The blond guy is trying to be political. Milton is a free capitalistic political atheist.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 11 months ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor The blonde guy is a politician and the president of iceland today. I would want to see him removed from office though.
911Dagur 8 months ago
@911Dagur They should of ran clips from this as smear ad against the blonde douchebag maybe he would not have gotten elected the way he made an ass out of himself.
Empyreanmight 7 months ago
Pathetic how they try to find arguments against Friedman... Love the way he just burns them to the ground, in a gentleman's way of course.
William8573 1 year ago
Milton nailed it, the blond guy just talks about politics. Economics is a science, and certain tenants cannot be challenged in reality, but only in politics.
groam6666 1 year ago
Heh...the blonde dude is pretty funny.
Spjungen 1 year ago
Milton showed who's boss.the poor blond dude got pwned ....
JohnGaltHasSpoken 1 year ago
Great debate Louie and Guitar. I agree with guitar. Louie you admirably defended socialism with good intentions. And not the typical "the people are to stupid" rhetoric.
Oddly enough it is only your lack of understanding of fractional reserve lending and derivatives that stop you from seeing the bigger picture.
Watch the Money Masters here on YouTube. Phenomenal historic look at the men who controlled the currency.
The Fed the IMF the BIS the World Bank all are enslaving the third world coun
poppanolan 1 year ago
@poppanolan Wow how did you read into my post that I am a socialist. I am a dedicated capitalist, that just happens to be anti globalizaion. I understand francional reserve banking and derivatives. You need to watch the Brooksley Born video. Could you answer me a question, is ameican companys manufacturing in china using .20/hr. labor, and shipping the product back to the U.S considered trade. I don't see how that economy killing activity could be considered trade.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
My dream debate...Friedman versus Pelosi.
jscottupton 1 year ago 2
lawl europeans lawl. What ridiculous arguments.
YourNameHere1212 1 year ago
Milton Friedman isn't clear? Oh my god this guy is the stupidest mf I've ever seen!!!!!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
3:18 thereabouts "the corporations are out to get us man dudeeeeeeeee"
LOL
minerasasd 1 year ago
Yes, old Milt was good a promoting freedom for the top 20% of society.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater DRONE!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 TROLL
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater No I view Liberty Pen videos. Only intellegent people need watch Milton Friedman. People who understand history and economics. Stay away from here. Go watch Obama videos. Stay off intellectuals sites
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 I do understand history and economics. I find most folks on these propaganda sites to be wanting. Much like the Hitler Youth.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Wow: did you say intellectual sites, That statement alone puts you in the functioning moron category, why don't you just go strum your guitar, and yodel.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Hitler youth? You are comparing Milton Friedman to the Hitler youth? Are you the DUMBEST PERSON ON EARTH? Milton Friedman is the ONLY voice of freedom that could speak as clearly as this. Milton wiped these 3 men up. He is about freedom and liberty. If you do not understand that? Then you are an enemy of freedom and liberty. And that? You are an enemy of humanity!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 and you must belong to the local drama club. The brainwashing of the Friedman followers, is the same as the brainwashing done by Joseph Goebbles on the Hitler Youth. Friedman is about deindustrializing America, and giving american jobs to .20/hr. third world labor markets. He was sponsered by multinational corporations and jewish investment houses. If you were slower to call other folks stupid and quicker to recognize your own stupidity you would know that.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Oh my god. Are you declared mentally unstable? He is backed by me. An economics and Computer Science major who happened to wind up in the free market as a professional session guitar player. So the fact that they back Milton has no bearing on my views in the least. Why? Because I am for freedom. I am completely in the being of my soul against big government. I am for freedom. He is an Austrian economists. I've studied economics. Austrain is the only system that allows.. part1
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 The only thing your ever majored in was ignorance. You are not against big government you are against you own government. There is a difference you know. You are a globalist who supports deindustrialization of your own country and have little regard for those who earn their living in manufacturing.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater freedom by people to pursue their own goals and ambitions. Will there be rich and those that are poor? Of course. No system is perfect. But you give me the choice between living free in a country that sets the rules as such that you can be anything you want to be or one that provides par or sub par entitlements ie... healthcare etc... I will choose freedom over a tyrannical government that can tell me what to do. That is slavery. You are brainwashed. Milton is 100% correct!!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 I would say you are a multinational lap dog just like Freidman. You act as if you know the end result of globalization and free trade. If you were really paying attention to anything other than your own fantacies you would know that Free Trade and globalization has produced a trillion dollar trade deficet, 1 in 5 unemployed americans, open borders, foreign invasion of our southern borders. You are a very slow person.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater And no. If you lower taxes on business and cut the SS, medicare, entitlements completely out of the federal budget and leave it to the individuals to provide for themselves? Then you will have businesses staying in THIS country. Why do they leave? They are seeking to maintain profits for the people that have stock in that company. They are avoiding higher taxes to pay for government programs. Cut that? Were rich. All of us. Government is why businesses leave. Pull you head out
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 You mean if you starve 50 million amercians multinationals might stay in the U.S. There is a better way than that to keep them here. Simply add a tariff to the products they manufacture using 20/hr. labor. That would send them racing back to the good ole USA. Don't complain about folks on subsistance untill the country has done all it can to provide jobs for them. Outsourcing 40,000 manufacturing faciities is not providing jobs for american citize Quit focusing on the top 2%.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater You must be young. Or just plain stupid. People like you make me i'll. Ya know the government of Cuba agree with you. Perhaps you would find a more Utopian economic existence there. Ever thought about defecting? Would love for you to be happy
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 The government of Cuba was produced by the stupidity of people like you. Catro actually objected to the U.S. businesses making second class citizens out of his countrymen in their own country, and making whores out of the Cuban women.
Castro kicked the IMF and World Bank out of his country, he actually believed Cubas resources belinged to the Cuban people, instead of international bankers ( Friedmans Crowd) You are far to uninformed to be talking about Cuba.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater You are a communist. Tariffs? Government controlling free trade? You glorify Castro? Look at Cuba now. Batista was no saint. But with free trade with the USofA on the horizon the Cuban people stood a fighting chance. Now? They drive cars from the 1950's. There economy is controlled by central government. They live in poverty. Not American style poverty which is not owning a color tv set. Cuban poverty, starvation and serfdom looming over their heads. Milton Friedman and I Part1
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 You are for government supporting the outsourcing 40,000 factories, U.S. government gave tax breaks to certain industries to assist in our deindustrialization. Cubas condition today is caused by International Bankers and the US Government squeezing them to become part of globlization. Just like they are Venezuela and Iran. If our military was not in Iraq and Afganistan now, they would be in Venezuela or Iran, making the world safe for globalization. Central planning is not the
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater to abolish the fed. I told you what will keep companies here. You prefer to villianize companies. There is no such thing as companies. There are only people. And you want to villianize people. Shameful and dangerous. Friedmans crowd is not international bankers. He was not for the NWO> YOU ARE. We want to abolish the Fed. You are a communist who has no business living in this country. You are the very thing that will cause a revolution. If RP doesn't get elected. Part 2 of 3
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@louiethegreater You want global communism. You are not only foolish, you are dangerous to our soveirgnty and freedoms. Your opinions are exactly why we are in the situation that has caused the NWO to gain ground on American freedoms. We are it, the last hope of the world. YOU? You will be fought. You will be ushering in those in the same light as the founders of our country seen in their own eyes. I'm am a constitutionalist. You are a foolish stupid progressive. You will be fought.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 You are a part of global socialism, a global plantation controlled by the global elitist. The free flow of capital, goods and services, and labor across national borders is free trade ideology. That alone produces global wages, global ethnicity, ect. That is socialism. Tell me would you rather the Chines got a raise or your countryment take a pay cut. Friedmant would say americans talke a pay cut. You should really take a course in patriotism 101.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Freedom is what Milton Friedman advocates. Your whole view is 180% wrong. I have a degree in economics. I have followed economic history and political pressures to adopt keyensian theory. You are beyond Keyensian theory. You are for global communism. Free trade has nothing to do with governments. Tariffs do nothing to promote freedom only to enslave. Look no further than the examples you gave. Unbelievable how wrong you are. Might be the single most misguided person I've met
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Friedman had a degree in economics too. The US protected our markets untill the 1970s, they protected them with tariffs. It wasn't untill Free Trade became the craze that outsourcing began. Remember Free trade is a theory only it has never been implemented anywhere in the world, and never will, as long as there are nationstates. You have had all common sense, and patriotism educated out of you. You do not care about those in america who earned their living in manufacturing.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater You are no patriot. Control over us and free trade is not patriotism. We have had regulation to crush our freedoms and independance. Government is the problem not trade. Tariffs are the worst thing you can do to a country. Tariffs and taxation. Which you support both. The free market is voting with dollars. Yes we were free markets until 29'. After? Series of government influence and the Rothschilds bank. Free market keeps prices in check and prevents monopolies. part 1
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@louiethegreater You actually think that government does good? Where? I've yet to see it. No where except militarily. No other argument can be made for federal intervention. Do you even understand the basics of economics? There is a video called Economics in one lesson on here I was told. Watch that then think. Also watch The Obama Deception. That explains NWO in fairly good detail. Not scientifically but more on the realism of the end goal. End Game too. You need to learn what a patriot is
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Isnt that just like a Friedman worshiper. The country can totally destroy working americans, through outsourcing, but if one deterrent like a tariff is mentioned, some brain washed Freidmonite, starts yelling fowel. You need to read Ha-Joon Chang's book "Bad Samaritans" he gives a honest assessment of the U.S use of tariffs in the past. Amazing how you would accuse me of being a communist when you advocate the most glamorous display of socialist tendencies I have heard.
louiethegreater 1 year ago 2
@louiethegreater Socialism has nothing to do with Tariffs being enforced or not. Socialism is based on government governance in our lives. Are you for real? I think you are pulling my leg. This is actually making me laugh. If you are I'm done with this. I know it cannot be real because either you are allowed to use the funny farm computer once a week or your just playin around.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 What are you talking about, who said anything about socialism relivant to tariffs. Tariffs does protect american labor from the raviges of cheap third world labor. You honestly believe multinationals moving to .20/hr labor markets should not pay a tariff when they ship the products back into the country. If you do not than you are a citizen of the world and not an american.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Absolutely not. Tariffs are not protection for jobs. In the least. Incentives in areas in the United States and low corporate taxes keep them here. Not only here but in their best interest to hire skilled labor at competetive wages. Tariffs would yet again drive up the cost of the products. Which what good would it do the citizen if he has to pay a higher cost? Something at 20$ would be 60$ with tariffs. Oh yeah that's patriotism. And for other countries.... part1
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Multinations maintained production in the U.S. for two hundred years because of tariffs or the threat of tariffs. Yes consumers might pay more, but we really don't know that because many products do not have an american made comparison. The employees of the 40,000 manufacturing facilitise probably half of them is on public assistace now , plus all those who were just generationally on public assistance, so acctually the government is buying the walmart products they spend on.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater shipping products here? If we tax the shit out of them who pays? WE DO. The price of the product rises. See, you are only one side thinking. That is not economics. You get government out of the way. Allow companies to compete. Allow them to stay here with low regulations and taxes. That affords the companies better skilled workers at a competetive wage and the shareholders a profit and the consumer a fair price. There you go sport.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 So do we maintain 20% unemployment so 80% can buy cheap Walmart products. Quit telling me how I think, you are the one sided thinker, you have been brainwashed by austian economic philosophy, which is only a theory, futrhermore the more the country embraces that philosophy the harder life is for a segment of its ctizens. Heres correct thinking, after full employmet all public assistance for able bodied people should be stopped. Outsourcing jobs is not the way to accomplish tha
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater We have that now. Why? Taxes on businesses. I owned one. It closed. Because of regulations and taxes. Jobs were lost. And with deregulation on business and NO government interferance? You can compete with Walmart.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Your business probably failed because of lack of focus, sounds like you have lots going on in your life, and getting a business up an going takes total dedication and lots of capital.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater lack of focus huh? No it came down to taxes and regulations period. Government needs to be out of the way. Cut entitlements and government programs. Abolish the fed, leave the market place in the hands of the people. It will straighten out. I want to repeal EVERYTHING after 1929. Including every last thing that was done by Obama. The only thing that should remain is where we.ve come from in regards to racial relations. Everything else? Gone!!!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Obama is showing why he was allowed by global elitist to be president. His using our justice department to stride down , is treated like racial bigots. Taxes and regulation is not why you failed, or none would succeed. I am all for ending entitlements, government programs, ect. as soon as anyone wanting a job can find one. You know that will not happen without protecion from cheap labor.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater If you really knew the ends and outs of the minimum wage you would realize it is the biggest lie ever bestowed on the American public. Hell ther is a musicians union in Nashville right now that is killing the labels. They are consolodating and cannot keep up with the musicians wages that are mandated. When times are rough many do not work because of this. We cannot on our own negotiate with the labels independantly to agree on a fair wage in the economic crisis we all face part1
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@louiethegreater There is truth to what you say about the global elitists. We are controlled by a small elite. The banks. I'm all for abolishing the Fed. But, in it's place small government and free markets. Let the people compete. Buisnesses and labor negotiate their own wages. Free from middle men. When I go scab in Nashville and many of us do. I wind up making way more money. In fact, I'm going to be on a rock tour this year. I negotiated a buy out of 124k for a 6 month stint. Union? 23k
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 I must admit you make all the noises a scab does. Labor Unions producted the american middleclass, there is a unity produced by unions that cannot be accomplished by an individual. So far I see you as being pro business, anti labor, a have no loyalties, without honor, will do anything for money. My desire would be to see the country have full employment, our borders secured, and limited foreign exposure to our markets.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Well at least there are a few things we agree on. Labor unions? Absolutely not. It's mafia, the labor union leaders get rich and work the workers into a frenzy. Promise them the world then put businesses under. What good is a union when you DON'T HAVE A JOB! One word Detriot! Nuff said
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 I might add, what good is cheap products, if you don't have a job, or enough money to buy them regardless of price. You have fell for the global rhetoric hook, line and sinker. The condition of Detroit was not the fault of labor unions, it was the fault of globalizaiton, the liberalization of our markets, free trade. Japanes car makers were all free access to our markets while they charged 50% tariff on american cars. Now Toyota is No. 1 proof that protecting industries work.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Oh and louie. I am forced to be in the Union. I cannot work unless I'm in the union. My point was, that even the most hardcore union supporters in my industry are going scab to feed their families in this economy. The labels simply cannot afford the union rates at the moment. So we are making up for it by charging more when we know we can. Funny, were making more money than we were by freelancing and negotiating our own prices. And in this economy? Telling isn't it?
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Why don't you free lance, without becoming a union member. If you are going to call scabing freelancing why do you confuse the issue. I call it promoting ones self interest, above the good of the whole. Which is a display of ones character
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Ok, you are still not getting it. I'm correct on Unions. In the studio, you can only get paid by the Union. Your check goes through the Union. If you do not pay union dues you do not get paid. It's fine when you have work not when you don't. So we all go "off the card" to make it. When the economy's great we are stiffled in what we can make. Secondly, so we stop shipping cars to Japan? What will happen to the workers that loses thier job because our gov is playing war withJapan
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 You can only get paid if the union places you in a union job, therefore you belong to the union; right. So the union actually hires you, and bills the studio on your behalf. Sounds more like an employment agency than a union. Are you sure you don't have the two confused. Employment Agencies operate the same way, do you have an objecion to them. Placing temps, with low pay no benefits is big business in the area I live in. Bet you don't object to that.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater No, they do not get us jobs. Never had never will. They set the prices and conditions of when where and how we are to be paid, how much, and in the fashion of when. It is a union. It controls us and all of Nashville. And if someone is hungry and needs to eat? You are against temp agencies? What let them be homeless? It's their choice to work a temp job. What you would rather have them sit at home and live off me and my neighbors tax dollars? So you are for unions?
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 The same applies to you and a union job. So shut up and quit complaining about the folks that provides you with a job.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Ah ha. No unions do not provide jobs. In my industry they find no jobs for anyone. The people that provide me with a job? The free market. I have to negotiate my market price. I am better than 99% on the planet in what I do. So I should be making less than someone not as qualified? Or they get the job and paid equally as me? No NO NO. That is not fair at all. Yet it is exactly how it is set up
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Hay, sounds like it is great to be special, unfortunately it's unions for the other 99%. Most folks are average, they make up that 99% that forms unions.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Yes but why do they make the same as I do. Wages are set. Why do I have to work for the same amount of money? Shouldn't I make more? But noone has to pay me more because the wages are set. Seems awfully unfair wouldn't you say? The free market certainly would adjust it's wages on the basis of ability. But sadly because of the confines of a Union it doesn't allow for that. Perhaps some do not belong in the industry at all? There is a ton of truth in that statement
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Super talents usually excell to the top. Is it possible you just have an ego problem, and the union is actually getting you higher wages than you normally would get.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater Lol, no ego problem here. I've been doing this since I was 8 years old. Unfortunantly music is subjective. You have guitarists out there such as Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton, Jimi and the rest of them that people who have no business judging talent says they are the greatest in the world. Actually? Far from it. Not even in the top 10,000 I would say. Music isn't a sport. And no. I'm not making close to what I should be. But I do make 6 figures. My channel has vids on it.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Eric Clapton was a talent, that played the guitar. Is that what you are, or are you a guitarist. I am happy for you that your are making 6 figure income. Hope you make much more.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater i do agree. I want the companies here. However, due to economics and the understanding of how economics and free trade and investments shareholderism work. I disagree how to get there. This isn't a people problem or company problem, it is a government regulation tax problem. I emplore you to watch "The Fall of the Republic." It is an Alex Jones film and he used to be thought of as a global conspiracy crack pot. However, now? Many people are awakening to the truth
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 You are wrong this is a neo- liberal globalization problem. Taxes and regulation has nothing to do with it. The exploitation of the third world, the plundering of their resources, and pressure by developed contries to force the emerging economies to liberalize there markets is the problem.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater I have to Disagree, the exploitation of the Third World has brought them to Prosperity. Ask China how they feel about the US "Exploiting" their Labour force which is flourishing and in a few years a True balance of Powers will be created. what the US is doing by Importing everything from China is sending their money to China which is creating a Shift in Power. Third World countries can only Benefit when Western industry are moved into their countries.
armeniantamara 1 year ago
@armeniantamara China loves the multinational corporations exploiting their labor force, as a matter of fact the Communist Chinese offered their peasant populaitons to multinatinationals. As a result the Chinese economy has had substantial growth. I hope your are not stupid enough to believe that GDP has helped the Chinese people across the the board. The same people who posessed the wealth in China before they, and multinational corps, recieved the redistribution of the amer. middleclass wealth
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@armeniantamara Is multinational corporations manufacturing in Asia and shipping the products back to the U.S. considered trade, most of them are or were domestic companys.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
@louiethegreater What you are advocating is communism. In spite of ones skills they should contribute without malice and desire for compensation for their efforts. Hence why you have to have guns and walls and force someone who shows the nature and ability for medicine to go to school half their lives, only to be paid the same amount as the guy digging the ditch
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 I advocate capitalism, but you are not a capitalist you are a globalist. Capitalism is as good as the folks running the corporations and businesses. Capitalism worked for america when corporate CEOs considered themselves citizens of a country, not citizens of the world. Today CEO anounce they are closing ameican operations and moving offshore, the next day their stock go through the ceiling, with no reguard whatsoever for the thousands of ameican labor left behind.
louiethegreater 1 year ago
Well they become followers not even half way through this video.
MayonR 1 year ago
Friedman was a great man, particularly right before he died compared to when he was younger. But, there really were better economists even before him in Hayek and Mises.
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
You almost feel a grain of pity for their flawed arguments before they are eviscerated by the logic of Friedman.
f33d4ward 2 years ago
I love watching the three 'experts' scramble while Friedman tears their arguments apart.
"What? Oh no... that's not what I meant. What I really meant was something that makes me look less ignorant."
syghur 2 years ago 2
1:35 - 2:10
BRILLIANT!
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
I think Milton's middle name is "Logic"
Can anybody verify that? Wiki??
jasonprall11 2 years ago 18
You are right. He was extremely Rational. I think he was in economics what Ayn Rand was in philosophy.
Jazzper79 2 years ago
@jasonprall11 Yes it is. Wiki reads: "Friedman was born in Brooklyn, New York, to recent Jewish immigrants Jenő Friedman and Sára Landau Logic from Beregszász in Hungary (now Berehove, part of Ukraine), both of whom worked as dry goods merchants."
He was given his mother's maiden name.
Goodatconnect4 1 year ago
The panel opposing Friedman has squandered their time, all of this debate is about bashing Friedman, and are we to believe their views are somehow correct by default? I believe they didn't want their views held up under the examination of this great economist. At the end of the series I only knew a great deal more about the views of Milton Friedman and that they really held up under scrutiny. Thats fine though, I really don't care what the rest of the panel believes.
MikeUptonLtd 2 years ago
These dumbasses should know you gotta come out with both guns cocked if you're going up against a nigga like Friedman.
Also: this blond dude video needs to be interrupted by Kanye.
gratewings 2 years ago 26
@gratewings That "blonde guy" is now the president of Iceland
steinsi 1 year ago
@gratewings ,lol, yes
JohnGaltHasSpoken 1 year ago
This is hilarious. Milton is teaching these little boys a lesson.
CARDUELIS999 2 years ago
the blond guy grunts a little like a pig, lol... no offense Ragnar
Sivels 2 years ago 4
@Sivels That "blonde guy" is now the president of Iceland and is often referred to as Ólafur (the Pig)
steinsi 1 year ago
The blond haired dude ought to look at Chile today...hell...too bad this debate didn't take place 5-6 years later.
What an idiot!
JESS6TY 2 years ago
Watch the guy at 9:40. he is almost making love to Milton in his face.. He has the Zoolander look... LOL
gold95 2 years ago
friedman is my hero.. No one can stand against him.. just look at their faces!
abuelhid 2 years ago
Thanks for adding these videes.
hucky27 2 years ago 2
0:32 "what is the point?!?!" hahaha
chokin2 2 years ago