@nsboxer93 Yes Sir, I know some. His theory on human evolution is just a theory which is even disputed by scientists. Please read this report if you need to know. Jus key in search box. Thanks.
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@jaga454 wow... I will say this again.... HOW would I know? To me... smoke is the by-product of fire, containing both solid and liquid particulates as well as gas... I don't read Arabic, and don't know if smoke has any other meaning... why ask me?? To me it doesn't relate to cosmology at all... And I'm sorry but if you are going to make the claim that it proves an expanding universe... then you best be able to show how... and maybe learn a little something about Hubble.
@jaga454 I will NOT play this game with you... if you are going to posit something as fact... you have to back it up... I don't depend on anyone telling me anything... I look up the facts... but if you aren't going to provide any... then I have no reason to believe you whatsoever...
I'm not telling you squat... YOU are making the claim... so you tell me why, and how it relates, and what proof you have!!!
@jaga454 Oh no... that's not for me to say... that's for YOU to tell me, and offer proof... I'm not the one making the claim... YOU are... therefore, the burden of proof is yours not mine
@jaga454 So after all of that, you don't even know who Hubble is??? LOL... You are hysterical... you ask me to see both sides of the sword... but you certainly have not... I own and have read the qu'ran... it says NOTHING about an expanding universe... I know the smoke passage you are talking about, but it is so vague its no wonder no one thought of it as scientific... LOL...
Go look up Hubble my man... you might learn something!!!
@jaga454 where are you getting these words and ideas from? Certainly not from me... I never said one thing that you just stated... nice diversionary tactic... but again... you fail...
You also still have not shown correlation between hubble's law and smoke!!!
@jaga454 wrong... if you are positing a claim, you must provide the facts... an educated person would know that... you don't know squat about me... you are making some pretty lame assumptions...
Let me ask you this... would you believe me if I told you I had a dragon in my garage? or would you want me to provide proof...
Go play with someone who might fall for your fallacious diatribe... that person isn't me
@jaga454 BTW, smoke is NOT just gas... it is particulate matter in the form of solids and liquids as well as gas... so sorry... the qu'ran is wrong... unless you are saying that the solid and liquid particulates always existed... which they didn't... we know for a fact that those elements were born from super novae
@jaga454 you made a claim... I refuted your claim... you re established the claim and told me that people didn't believe the claim... YOU proved my point... how am I comparing the book to the thought?
@jaga454 Honestly... I don't know where you are going with this... when was I comparing anything... and please do share how "the planet was in a form of smoke"... compares with hubble's law!! I would love to hear your explanation of that... and how the two coincide!!!
BUT... before you do that... please give me the Surah, I can read this from!!!
@jaga454 you made the claim that the Qu'ran says the universe is expanding. THEN, when I explain to you that it isn't a prediction or prophecy because it's vague and only thought of after it is proven as true... you tell me that some guy in the 1800's said the universe was expanding, YET, no muslims believed him, because they didn't interpret the words that way... thereby PROVING my point!!! I'm not running at all... and who is comparing books to thought? That would be you!
@jaga454 and again I will say to you... if it was a real prediction... NO ONE would have been confused or missed it as such... You prove my point when you claim that Osama al Alem brought this up, but muslims didn't believe him... so thanks for doing my work... lol
@jaga454 So tell me... why didn't the Muslim's say anything about this until after Edwin Hubble discovered this in 1929?? That's the problem with "prophecy", it's never specific, and it's NEVER known about until after we discover it in other ways... In other words it isn't prophecy...
How about this... why doesn't the Qu'ran talk about germ theory, or gravity, or nuclear theory, or electrical theory...
@chyrd u ask why Islam is the true religion? A true Muslim takes part in what is good and forbids that which is bad(haram) and you worship the one true God the almighty, most gracious most merciful. plain and simple.
@sghussainkhan you can't debate a subject for thousands of years and not have the truth win out... ask the Catholics about that one.... Look at how they fought for a geocentric earth... Look how they finally are saying that Evolution is real... the last pope even said that where religion and science collide, it's science with it's facts and theories that will win out always.
@chyrd when I say it's being debated thousands of years, I didn't mean that it's not concluded. It's concluded alright. That's why Islam is the fastest growing religion in d world.. What makes it goes on is the tendency of some sick people to reject truth not from facts, but unreliable assumptions. Ur talking abt Catholics? I'm not with their arguments. In the Qur'an it certainly get along very, I mean VERY well with science and facts.
Islam might be the fastest growing religion but that is due to birth rate and indoctrination at a young age. Here in the states Atheism is the fastest growing. Why? because the smarter a people become the less they need to crutch of a fairy tale god. I've read the Qur'an and it doesn't sit with science. Tell me... why are you a Muslim and not a christian or a hindi? Ever think about that? Why are you right and the rest of them wrong?
@chyrd If u've read the Quran, then show me where it doesn't sit with science. I'll chq it out. Im a muslim because only Islam shows proof that is logical to the human mind. Other religions doesn't seem to offer logical reasoning when we analyse their concept of God. As for atheists, who doesn't believe in God, it's worse. It just doesn't make sense that we originated by accident when nature around us r in perfect order and purpose. There MUST a first cause from an intelligent supreme being.
@sghussainkhan (pt 1) No... the burden of proof lies in your hands... you are the one claiming that the quran and science sit well together...YOU show me where it does. You are a muslim solely based on where you grew up... the people you grew up around were muslim so so are you... if you were born in the US south... you would undoubtedly be a christian of some sort.... if you grew up in Ancient Rome, you'd follow Jupiter.
@chyrd The burden of proof lies with one who claims something. I said it sit with science. I had and will show you more. U said it doesn't sit with science, so u have to show it too.
I lived in a multiracial singapore. My childhood friends r muslims, christians, hindu, budhists and taoists. 3 of my non muslim childhood friends r now muslims. Non of my muslim friends converted to other faiths although some r non practicing. It doesn't have to do w where we r if we think n want to find out.
@sghussainkhan yes and you made the claim that the qur'an sits well with science... so the burden of proof is yours... I only disagree with your claim. Again... the family you grew up with were muslims were they not? You weren't raised hindi and then converted did you? I live in the US... the biggest multicultural country in the world... but if you are brought up by christian parents chances are you will remain one the rest of your life.
@chyrd OK.. If you insist that the burden of proof is on me.. be it. I'm happy to show my proof even if you don’t except it. Being born in any culture is irrelevant to one's believe as being true or not. The important thing is the belief is valid to reasoning. When I was a teenager, I remembered having questions about God. I do not know about other muslims, but I am taught Islam by reasoning. Later, I compared it with reasoning from other faiths. I'm not the kind that absorb non sense material.
@sghussainkhan (pt2) You say that there is perfect order, but then you don't see that 90% of the earths surface is uninhabitable, that 99% of every species that ever existed is extinct... a full 7/8's of the water is not drinkable. Where is the perfect order? You saying that there must be a first cause begs the question... who designed the designer? And don't say that he didn't need to be designed... because you saying that belies the fact that there needn't be a designer in the first place.
@chyrd Our mind has the limits to understand why. There r so many things we don't understand. This imperfection u mentioned has a purpose yet to be discovered. When I said perfect order, I mean in the context to make something work. Eg. Our heart works because it follows instructions from instructional codes in each of it's cell. The question is, Who instructs? By chance? A Definitely illogical answer. The next alternative will be an intelligent being. He is GOD ALMIGHTY.
@sghussainkhan so because you don't understand something it's easier to put the god did it stamp on it and walk away? No... that is closing your eyes... you find out...you inquire, you experiment... you are choosing the lazy way out..
@chyrd I am certainly not closing my eyes. God is The Most complex of all the things complex. The human mind is limited. Take eternity & infinity for eg. You can only define what it is. Try to understand it. You can't. It's mind boggling, and yet we know it's there. What about right n wrong, the freedom of choice? We know we have it, but how does it come about in the first place? Evolution? God is the most logical answer accepted by billions.
@sghussainkhan infinity and eternity are in the minds of the ignorant... mathematicians find horror in the concept as do cosmologists... we know it isn't there... only the religious believe it is... and think it is a good thing... imagine an eternity.... doing everything and talking to everyone you want about everything... then imagine you have an eternity to go...to do the same thing... a billion times... then realize you have an eternity to go... please dont' think I haven't though of it.
@sghussainkhan we know that eternity an infinity are there??? They are merely mathematical... just because you can't thnk of a possible alternative doesn't mean there isn't one.
@chyrd Who designed the designer? In other words, who creates God? It also doesn't beg this q to be asked bcause it refers to God. This q is illogical, bcause if God can b created or designed, then he is NOT GOD. Only the created needs to be designed.
If u designed a car, u don't have to proof who designed you. Same, if God designed the heavens & the earth, it doesn't beg the q who designed God.
@sghussainkhan you are missing the point... you are so hung up on what happened before the big bang... yet don't question god being eternal... it begs the question who created god... but you don't see it that way... if you don't like that question... how about this one... if god existed eternally... wouldn't it be logical that he also created an infinite amount of universes? Also... why would a perfect god need to create anything in the first place? After all wouldn't he be perfectly content?
@chyrd Discussing eternity is useless cos it's mind boggling. No one can even understand it. Why? Because the human mind is limited. If we cannot even understand eternity, how on earth r we to discuss it? It's like a blind man leading the blind. Its OK to ask who created God? but u have to know that it's an illogical question.
God doesn't need anything. If he needs something, then he's NOT God.
He creates because He wants to. He does what he likes. After all, he's God, isn't He?
@sghussainkhan I have come across many sick people... most of them are of the religious variety, who stop looking at evidence because it doesn't support their holy book and their dogma... but facts are facts... period the end... the facts that they toss out are evolution, cosmology, geology, tectonics etc... and in the case of some muslim countries these aren't taught... the only thing is taught is learning the Quran by rote... thereby cutting off any intellectual curiosity.
@sghussainkhan Islam does NOT go very well with science and facts... Evolution is a fact and a theory... you stating what you did porves that you have no clue what even the basics of it are about... Gravity is a theory too, as well as Cell Theory, but I guess those don't exist either.
Please tell me how cosmology and geology go with the quran?
You should start by reading a freshmen year high school biology book... I've read the Qur'an, and if either one of us is assuming... it's you.
@chyrd Evolution has been described as "fact and theory", "fact not theory", and "only a theory, not a fact". This only shows u r not agreeing to disagree on this subject. I'm not a scientist, but if other scientists are disputing ur theory, it's too obvious whether ur deduction on me is valid.
Many had read the quran and believe. Tell me, not in general, why u don't believe. Give ref.
@sghussainkhan Evolution is a fact... the Sumerians even knew that... there were various ideas on how evolution worked... the theory of evolution through natural selection and random mutation it the theory which explains the fact.... Facts are a dime a dozen... In Science... there is nothing greater than a unifying theory. I do not believe in any god because the evidences shown me have not shown that one exists. The Qur'an, The Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, and several others do not prove god.
@chyrd Theories r a dime a dozen, but not facts. Facts r invaluable and leave No room for compromise. It is what it is. The evidences shown had billions others to conclude that God exists. Some people need only one proof, some a few. Maybe u need more that clicks ur concience, but I hope ur the open minded type, & I believe so.
BTW, How do I address you? I would like to know who I'm speaking to.
@sghussainkhan No sir... you have no understanding of science at all... FACTS are a dime a dozen... it's the Theories that explain those facts... you seem to think that a theory in science is the same as it is in the layman's world... it's NOT a guess or an idea... in science it explains facts, observations, and hypothesis. it is the penultimate explanation, yet subject to change based on new facts. Do you have a problem with the Theory of Gravity? or Germ Theory? Chyrd is fine...
@chyrd If it is penultimate and subject to change, then it is not a confirmed fact. If something is not confirmed, then this fact can be compromised. So it's not a real fact. When discussing right and wrong we need real facts. Unconfirmed facts r only supportive evidence, so it doesn't really proof something right or wrong. However, I will except science facts that cannot b compromised.
I have no problem with any theory, but it must not contradict a real fact or logic.
@chyrd About biology: Then We made the semen was a lump of blood, and bones and bones that we wrap it with meat. Then We made him a creature (shape) the other. Then cleansed God Almighty, Creator of the Best (Qur'an 23: 14)
@sghussainkhan To prove that god exists is indeed simple. There is a bundle of prove. Existence of yourself is one. Just look at yourself. Everything is perfect with ur bodyparts doing their job so that u can live like a man. Obviously, there's intelligence behind this perfection. It just doesnt make sense that it can happen accidentally.
@sghussainkhan Now, Intelligence is an attribute. An attribute cannot exist on it's own. It must apply to something. What? Nature? There must be an essense with great intelligence that can arrange all the things around us in perfect order. Who can that be except God Almighty
@sghussainkhan you aren't born with intelligence... you learn through experience and teaching... Many animals including rats and ants display forms of intelligence... But let me give you the benefit of the doubt... let's say for the sake of argument that intelligence is indicative of a god... how does it prove your god above all others...
@chyrd Exactly! you aren't born with inteligence. So where does this intelligence come from? U said "you learn through experience and teaching". That's not intelligence, That's knowledge. Intelligence is the brilliancy to accept knowledge. Where did this come from? This is the missing link of your so called evolution fact. The ONLY fact is that it is an incomplete theory.
Why "the benefit of the doubt'? Evolution fail to prove. Even Plato n aristotle accepts a supreme intelligence.
@sghussainkhan Intelligence is capacity to learn... Chimps show a great deal of intelligence and empathy, even handing down tool building. Considering we share a common ancestor it doesn't take much to understand where intelligence comes from. But here is a paper written by Kyle R. Skottke of the Rochester Institute of Technology on the subject of the evolution of human intelligence... Aristotle and Plato (if he existed) believed in the greek gods, and had no understanding of what we do now.
@chyrd Paper on subject of the evolution of human intelligence only shows how it evolves from good to better.. I want to know how it started from nothing. U still haven't answered it. Again, other scientists r still disputing evolution theory. Search 4 flaws in evolution.
Believing in greek gods or not is irrelevant and doesn't show that their other works r wrong. And why the "if they existed"? It's irrelevant. We're discussing their product, not them.
@sghussainkhan there are no scientists who are disputing that evolution through natural selection is indeed a fact... as far as answering how it started from nothing... it didn't... and there are many books on the subject... just go to a library... or search pubmed.org... I couldn't possibly answer that question in a mere 500 words. Besides... you have as yet to show proof of any god...
@chyrd No scientists disputing evolution theory? Get ur facts right. Pls read this report, By: Staff
Discovery Institute
February 8, 2007 -titled -Ranks of Scientists Doubting Darwin’s Theory on the Rise.
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture today announced that over 700 scientists from around the world have now signed a statement expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution. Type dissentfromdarwin
@sghussainkhan The discovery institute is a creationist organization with no peer reviewed science papers. These guys had dentists signing petitions stating that evolution was wrong. do yourself a favor and look up things on Pubmed.org. you will find peer reviewed documents there... 700 is not a big number in the scientific community. Francis Collins, former head of the human genome project and a creationist states that without Darwin, the theory of evolution is a fact, shown in the genetics.
@chyrd Come on chyrd.. Is that the best u can do? R u suggesting that all these people r nuts? What about the other billions. R they nuts too? One evidence is enough to prove something if there r no other conflicting proofs, let alone 700. This only proves disputing views. I certainly accept scientific facts that cannot b compromised.
I'm not totally against evolution, but it certainly does not point to no God. In fact, it points to Supreme Intelligence behind all these purpose.
@sghussainkhan Germans during ww2 thought it a grand idea to kill all the jews, gypsies and homosexuals... just because the masses think something is right... doesn't make it so.
@chyrd Dr. Alfred Kroner, Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.
@sghussainkhan and? So one scientist who is talking vaguely about what you are espousing... so what? Where is his proof? Again I say to you that the things you are saying are scientific in the qur'an are NOT... why? Because it is vague... it is so vague that it doesn't even make sense... you are basically stating that these particular words NOW fit something in modern times... why didn't we know about it before now? It's like Nostradamus making a prediction and us fitting an event into it.
@chyrd There r many more n u know that. It proves that scientists r disputing. That's all. U said no.
Anything can be vague if u don't want to understand it. If it's vague, u ask.., to understand what it means. If it doesnt make sense by all means.. reject.
Look closely bro. Nostradamus is predicting a coming event, whereas the Quran is unveiling an unknown fact. These facts r there all along, unknown until recently. Associating Nostradamus with what the Quran says is a NO GO.
@sghussainkhan intelligence is ability to learn and has everything to do with the size of your cerebral cortex. As the cerebral cortex evolved so did intelligence... there is no need for a designer
@sghussainkhan instinct evolves into intelligence... as the cerebral cortex evolves... when a new generation realizes that by sticking a branch in a hole you get more termites... then that generation passes it on to another... and so on...
@sghussainkhan You have a blind spot in your eye... you have too many teeth to fit in your jaw... etc... it doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand the process of evolutionary biology... but in that context it does make sense as to why a squid has a better eye than you do... Our existence does NOT depend on a designer.... if it did... the designer would be fired... not to be gross but think about how close your pleasure center is to your waste disposal.
@chyrd We r designed to b imperfect. That's what makes it perfect. The effect is what caused the world to work gracefully. Think abt it...
That blind spot in our eye is a wisdom of creation. Only u see it as a flaw. It's how u understand it. It definitely has it's purpose, only we don't know. History shows that scientific discoveries supports quranic revelation point blank. You want me to give the references? I hv a lot. Only people who wishes to seek the truth will want it.
@sghussainkhan if god made us in his image then he has a blind spot, back problems, too many teeth, and is a poor designer. that's only in the human animal... Please do enlighten me with how the Qur'an supports modern science... I'm very curious. If history showed that to be the case... the entire planet would follow Islam... so I doubt that you are correct... but please... do share...
@chyrd I'm a Muslim not a Christian. God cannot be associated with anything the mind can imagine.
I'm puzzeled why u ask this question. U said u had read the Quran, The facts are there, the big bang, wind pollination, preservation of pharaoh's body, the formation of clouds and rain, the formation of the human embryo etc. All these, 1400 yrs ago. How did Muhammad know?
@sghussainkhan I know the passages you are speaking of... and they are so vague that you can say they apply to anything... they certainly don't speak of the big bang... As for preserving the pharaoh's body... that technology had been around 6000 years before muhammad was born... no trick there...
@chyrd "Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them"?... (Quran, 21:30). If this is vague, give it another meaning. "Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs"? (Quran, 78:6-7). If this is vague give it another meaning. "And He has set firm mountains in the earth so that it would not shake with you". (Quran, 16:15). If this is vague, give it another meaning.
@sghussainkhan these are so vague that they don't even make sense... as for the last one... do you think that if you are on a moutain you aren't subject to earthquakes? come on now...
@chyrd If u can't give it another meaning, don't say it's vague. And to say it don;t even make sense sounds like the women's liberation crying " All men are fakes"
As for the last one, if the quran overlooked earthquakes, we would've been bombarded heavily on this single verse. It's simply means firming.. It is in line with the modern theory of plate tectonics that says, mountains work as stabilizers for the earth.
If I say "drink milo & u'll be healthy" Must u ask " I don't need to eat?"
@sghussainkhan NO... tell me exactly what it means... it is vague.. I don't understand what it means... and obviously no one in a thousand years figured it out either... otherwise it would be plain as the nose on your face... but it isn't.
@chyrd I had shown you proof, yourself, remember? The heavens and the earth.. all in perfect order and purpose, DNA Intelligent instuctional codes, u chq it out..
If u still refuse to accept these proof that billions of people say as proof, I do not see why we should go on.
But as a muslim, my job is not to judge whether u r sincere or not. I will go on if u want to know. Just ask and I will answer what I know. Only God knows all.
@chyrd I had shown you proof. Only you doesn't except it as proof. You haven't dispute my video. It's pure proof. What about the mathematical miracle of the Qur'an? Have you read it?
All the things I speak including evidences you provide points that nature is complex and have purpose on what they do. How can chance have purpose? It Only points to an Ultimate Intelligent Creator... God All Mighty.
@chyrd Look if the qur'an's intention was to show us things scientifically we wouldn't need the science books that we have now would we? You keep talking about chance... but there was no chance now was there... it actually happened... that is why you and I are talking here... stop thinking about the astronimcally ridiculous ideas that creationists talk about it being 1 in a trillion chance for things to occur... they did... that's all we need to know.
@chyrd The Quran is not a book of science. But it is a book of Signs. The science messages in the Quran r only signs for us to think & observe the created so that we realise the creator.
It talks abt science to prove by supernatural means that God existed. These verses act as a catalyst for people to explore God's creation. That's what triggers the earlier arabs to explore & advanced in many fields namely astronomy & medicine. Alas! Now many muslims r straying away from what God persued.
@chyrd If you're interested, let's move on to what and why I believe Islam is the true religion above others instead of debating it. You will get more genuine information on what's going on in the muslim world.
Thanks Chyrd. I enjoyed chatting with you. I actually gained more knowledge.
@sghussainkhan Oh really? and your facts and evidences are what? Please enlighten me... Oh yeah... you can't say the Qu'ran... that's circular reasoning...
@chyrd Yes really. a whole lot of it. Its been debated for more than a thousand years. Its a vast subject my friend. If ur sincere to know, ur wecome to ask anything or debate it if u like. My email is hussainkhansg@gmail.com
@sghussainkhan if "Its been debated for more than a thousand years", then obviously you don't have proof... not any that can be taken seriously... for sure... real evidence doesn't need to be debated... it is what it is...
Here's a simple one for you... without using your quran... prove a god... then prove yours over all others...
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@kazzannova2008 Did you know that aliens once roam our planet openly? They are advanced beings and so advanced that they (the bad aliens) decided to create religions to divide and conquer mankind.
Look at us humans now, fighting with each other proving who has the right God. Those who created the religions are quietly enjoying what they have done to mankind. Divide and conquer, a very old trick that is still being used until now.
Subhanallah...
damaidhati 4 months ago
Hey People, another kid (cryfreedom) with no manners trying to proof an unconfirmed find.. what a pity...
sghussainkhan 5 months ago
subhanallah...do u know the charles darwin theory about human??
nsboxer93 7 months ago
@nsboxer93 Yes Sir, I know some. His theory on human evolution is just a theory which is even disputed by scientists. Please read this report if you need to know. Jus key in search box. Thanks.
Discovery Institute
February 8, 2007 -titled -Ranks of Scientists Doubting Darwin’s Theory on the Risse
sghussainkhan 7 months ago
@nsboxer93 Sorry, you can key in discovery institute 2732
sghussainkhan 7 months ago
subhanallah...banyak kebenaran Islam, namun mengapa sedikit orang-orang yang berfikir?
1azroy 9 months ago
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tigersforchrist 10 months ago
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raulcampos635 10 months ago
Masyallah , thanks for sharing ! Barakallah hu feek...
stalejive 11 months ago
Salaam! can anybody tell me who recited the Al-Baqarah at the beginning..? Thanks :)
YeLaH89 1 year ago
@YeLaH89 sheikh Sudais
nagamora 1 year ago
@nagamora
Sh. Ahmad Ajmy actually.
TruthWillRule 1 year ago
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Wa salamu alaikum wrwb. Sh. Ahmad Ajmy.
TruthWillRule 1 year ago
@TruthWillRule Thank you for the information. may Allah bless u.
YeLaH89 11 months ago
dialog yang menarik... memang sulit memberikan "pencerahan" kepada seseorang yang sudah tertutup mata hatinya.
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@jaga454 cat got your tongue?
chyrd 1 year ago
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@jaga454 for what?? I've asked you several questions that you never once answered... just what are you waiting for?
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 wow... I will say this again.... HOW would I know? To me... smoke is the by-product of fire, containing both solid and liquid particulates as well as gas... I don't read Arabic, and don't know if smoke has any other meaning... why ask me?? To me it doesn't relate to cosmology at all... And I'm sorry but if you are going to make the claim that it proves an expanding universe... then you best be able to show how... and maybe learn a little something about Hubble.
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 I will NOT play this game with you... if you are going to posit something as fact... you have to back it up... I don't depend on anyone telling me anything... I look up the facts... but if you aren't going to provide any... then I have no reason to believe you whatsoever...
I'm not telling you squat... YOU are making the claim... so you tell me why, and how it relates, and what proof you have!!!
Please... do you think you are debating a child?
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 Oh no... that's not for me to say... that's for YOU to tell me, and offer proof... I'm not the one making the claim... YOU are... therefore, the burden of proof is yours not mine
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 BTW... it's surah 41:11 just in case you want to re read it... LOL
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 So after all of that, you don't even know who Hubble is??? LOL... You are hysterical... you ask me to see both sides of the sword... but you certainly have not... I own and have read the qu'ran... it says NOTHING about an expanding universe... I know the smoke passage you are talking about, but it is so vague its no wonder no one thought of it as scientific... LOL...
Go look up Hubble my man... you might learn something!!!
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 where are you getting these words and ideas from? Certainly not from me... I never said one thing that you just stated... nice diversionary tactic... but again... you fail...
You also still have not shown correlation between hubble's law and smoke!!!
chyrd 1 year ago
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@jaga454 you're just mad because I got you to prove my point... LOL
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 wrong... if you are positing a claim, you must provide the facts... an educated person would know that... you don't know squat about me... you are making some pretty lame assumptions...
Let me ask you this... would you believe me if I told you I had a dragon in my garage? or would you want me to provide proof...
Go play with someone who might fall for your fallacious diatribe... that person isn't me
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 BTW, smoke is NOT just gas... it is particulate matter in the form of solids and liquids as well as gas... so sorry... the qu'ran is wrong... unless you are saying that the solid and liquid particulates always existed... which they didn't... we know for a fact that those elements were born from super novae
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 in other words... it doesn't exist... it's very easy to toss out a claim when no proof is offered... thanks for playing... LOL
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 you made a claim... I refuted your claim... you re established the claim and told me that people didn't believe the claim... YOU proved my point... how am I comparing the book to the thought?
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 Honestly... I don't know where you are going with this... when was I comparing anything... and please do share how "the planet was in a form of smoke"... compares with hubble's law!! I would love to hear your explanation of that... and how the two coincide!!!
BUT... before you do that... please give me the Surah, I can read this from!!!
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 you made the claim that the Qu'ran says the universe is expanding. THEN, when I explain to you that it isn't a prediction or prophecy because it's vague and only thought of after it is proven as true... you tell me that some guy in the 1800's said the universe was expanding, YET, no muslims believed him, because they didn't interpret the words that way... thereby PROVING my point!!! I'm not running at all... and who is comparing books to thought? That would be you!
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 and again I will say to you... if it was a real prediction... NO ONE would have been confused or missed it as such... You prove my point when you claim that Osama al Alem brought this up, but muslims didn't believe him... so thanks for doing my work... lol
chyrd 1 year ago
@jaga454 So tell me... why didn't the Muslim's say anything about this until after Edwin Hubble discovered this in 1929?? That's the problem with "prophecy", it's never specific, and it's NEVER known about until after we discover it in other ways... In other words it isn't prophecy...
How about this... why doesn't the Qu'ran talk about germ theory, or gravity, or nuclear theory, or electrical theory...
Give me a break.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd u ask why Islam is the true religion? A true Muslim takes part in what is good and forbids that which is bad(haram) and you worship the one true God the almighty, most gracious most merciful. plain and simple.
bronco200005 1 year ago
subhanAllah.
bochideidara 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan you can't debate a subject for thousands of years and not have the truth win out... ask the Catholics about that one.... Look at how they fought for a geocentric earth... Look how they finally are saying that Evolution is real... the last pope even said that where religion and science collide, it's science with it's facts and theories that will win out always.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd when I say it's being debated thousands of years, I didn't mean that it's not concluded. It's concluded alright. That's why Islam is the fastest growing religion in d world.. What makes it goes on is the tendency of some sick people to reject truth not from facts, but unreliable assumptions. Ur talking abt Catholics? I'm not with their arguments. In the Qur'an it certainly get along very, I mean VERY well with science and facts.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan It is certainly NOT concluded!!!
Islam might be the fastest growing religion but that is due to birth rate and indoctrination at a young age. Here in the states Atheism is the fastest growing. Why? because the smarter a people become the less they need to crutch of a fairy tale god. I've read the Qur'an and it doesn't sit with science. Tell me... why are you a Muslim and not a christian or a hindi? Ever think about that? Why are you right and the rest of them wrong?
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd If u've read the Quran, then show me where it doesn't sit with science. I'll chq it out. Im a muslim because only Islam shows proof that is logical to the human mind. Other religions doesn't seem to offer logical reasoning when we analyse their concept of God. As for atheists, who doesn't believe in God, it's worse. It just doesn't make sense that we originated by accident when nature around us r in perfect order and purpose. There MUST a first cause from an intelligent supreme being.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan (pt 1) No... the burden of proof lies in your hands... you are the one claiming that the quran and science sit well together...YOU show me where it does. You are a muslim solely based on where you grew up... the people you grew up around were muslim so so are you... if you were born in the US south... you would undoubtedly be a christian of some sort.... if you grew up in Ancient Rome, you'd follow Jupiter.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd The burden of proof lies with one who claims something. I said it sit with science. I had and will show you more. U said it doesn't sit with science, so u have to show it too.
I lived in a multiracial singapore. My childhood friends r muslims, christians, hindu, budhists and taoists. 3 of my non muslim childhood friends r now muslims. Non of my muslim friends converted to other faiths although some r non practicing. It doesn't have to do w where we r if we think n want to find out.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan yes and you made the claim that the qur'an sits well with science... so the burden of proof is yours... I only disagree with your claim. Again... the family you grew up with were muslims were they not? You weren't raised hindi and then converted did you? I live in the US... the biggest multicultural country in the world... but if you are brought up by christian parents chances are you will remain one the rest of your life.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd OK.. If you insist that the burden of proof is on me.. be it. I'm happy to show my proof even if you don’t except it. Being born in any culture is irrelevant to one's believe as being true or not. The important thing is the belief is valid to reasoning. When I was a teenager, I remembered having questions about God. I do not know about other muslims, but I am taught Islam by reasoning. Later, I compared it with reasoning from other faiths. I'm not the kind that absorb non sense material.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan (pt2) You say that there is perfect order, but then you don't see that 90% of the earths surface is uninhabitable, that 99% of every species that ever existed is extinct... a full 7/8's of the water is not drinkable. Where is the perfect order? You saying that there must be a first cause begs the question... who designed the designer? And don't say that he didn't need to be designed... because you saying that belies the fact that there needn't be a designer in the first place.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Our mind has the limits to understand why. There r so many things we don't understand. This imperfection u mentioned has a purpose yet to be discovered. When I said perfect order, I mean in the context to make something work. Eg. Our heart works because it follows instructions from instructional codes in each of it's cell. The question is, Who instructs? By chance? A Definitely illogical answer. The next alternative will be an intelligent being. He is GOD ALMIGHTY.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan so because you don't understand something it's easier to put the god did it stamp on it and walk away? No... that is closing your eyes... you find out...you inquire, you experiment... you are choosing the lazy way out..
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd I am certainly not closing my eyes. God is The Most complex of all the things complex. The human mind is limited. Take eternity & infinity for eg. You can only define what it is. Try to understand it. You can't. It's mind boggling, and yet we know it's there. What about right n wrong, the freedom of choice? We know we have it, but how does it come about in the first place? Evolution? God is the most logical answer accepted by billions.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan infinity and eternity are in the minds of the ignorant... mathematicians find horror in the concept as do cosmologists... we know it isn't there... only the religious believe it is... and think it is a good thing... imagine an eternity.... doing everything and talking to everyone you want about everything... then imagine you have an eternity to go...to do the same thing... a billion times... then realize you have an eternity to go... please dont' think I haven't though of it.
chyrd 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan we know that eternity an infinity are there??? They are merely mathematical... just because you can't thnk of a possible alternative doesn't mean there isn't one.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Who designed the designer? In other words, who creates God? It also doesn't beg this q to be asked bcause it refers to God. This q is illogical, bcause if God can b created or designed, then he is NOT GOD. Only the created needs to be designed.
If u designed a car, u don't have to proof who designed you. Same, if God designed the heavens & the earth, it doesn't beg the q who designed God.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan you are missing the point... you are so hung up on what happened before the big bang... yet don't question god being eternal... it begs the question who created god... but you don't see it that way... if you don't like that question... how about this one... if god existed eternally... wouldn't it be logical that he also created an infinite amount of universes? Also... why would a perfect god need to create anything in the first place? After all wouldn't he be perfectly content?
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Discussing eternity is useless cos it's mind boggling. No one can even understand it. Why? Because the human mind is limited. If we cannot even understand eternity, how on earth r we to discuss it? It's like a blind man leading the blind. Its OK to ask who created God? but u have to know that it's an illogical question.
God doesn't need anything. If he needs something, then he's NOT God.
He creates because He wants to. He does what he likes. After all, he's God, isn't He?
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan I have come across many sick people... most of them are of the religious variety, who stop looking at evidence because it doesn't support their holy book and their dogma... but facts are facts... period the end... the facts that they toss out are evolution, cosmology, geology, tectonics etc... and in the case of some muslim countries these aren't taught... the only thing is taught is learning the Quran by rote... thereby cutting off any intellectual curiosity.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Maybe u meet the wrong religious variety. It's Islam here. It goes along very well with science and facts.
Evolution theory is not a fact, it's been disputed even by scientists. The only fact abt evolution theory is that it is an incomplete theory.
Cosmology and geology? Woo! It goes along well with the Quran. U hv to find out if ur a truthseeker.
Tectonics? I have no idea what this is. Give me time to study this.
Intellectual curiosity cut off? U SHOULD read the Qur'an. Don't assume.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Islam does NOT go very well with science and facts... Evolution is a fact and a theory... you stating what you did porves that you have no clue what even the basics of it are about... Gravity is a theory too, as well as Cell Theory, but I guess those don't exist either.
Please tell me how cosmology and geology go with the quran?
You should start by reading a freshmen year high school biology book... I've read the Qur'an, and if either one of us is assuming... it's you.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Evolution has been described as "fact and theory", "fact not theory", and "only a theory, not a fact". This only shows u r not agreeing to disagree on this subject. I'm not a scientist, but if other scientists are disputing ur theory, it's too obvious whether ur deduction on me is valid.
Many had read the quran and believe. Tell me, not in general, why u don't believe. Give ref.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Evolution is a fact... the Sumerians even knew that... there were various ideas on how evolution worked... the theory of evolution through natural selection and random mutation it the theory which explains the fact.... Facts are a dime a dozen... In Science... there is nothing greater than a unifying theory. I do not believe in any god because the evidences shown me have not shown that one exists. The Qur'an, The Bible, the Bhagavad Gita, and several others do not prove god.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Theories r a dime a dozen, but not facts. Facts r invaluable and leave No room for compromise. It is what it is. The evidences shown had billions others to conclude that God exists. Some people need only one proof, some a few. Maybe u need more that clicks ur concience, but I hope ur the open minded type, & I believe so.
BTW, How do I address you? I would like to know who I'm speaking to.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan No sir... you have no understanding of science at all... FACTS are a dime a dozen... it's the Theories that explain those facts... you seem to think that a theory in science is the same as it is in the layman's world... it's NOT a guess or an idea... in science it explains facts, observations, and hypothesis. it is the penultimate explanation, yet subject to change based on new facts. Do you have a problem with the Theory of Gravity? or Germ Theory? Chyrd is fine...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd If it is penultimate and subject to change, then it is not a confirmed fact. If something is not confirmed, then this fact can be compromised. So it's not a real fact. When discussing right and wrong we need real facts. Unconfirmed facts r only supportive evidence, so it doesn't really proof something right or wrong. However, I will except science facts that cannot b compromised.
I have no problem with any theory, but it must not contradict a real fact or logic.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@chyrd About biology: Then We made the semen was a lump of blood, and bones and bones that we wrap it with meat. Then We made him a creature (shape) the other. Then cleansed God Almighty, Creator of the Best (Qur'an 23: 14)
MbahWahyoe 1 year ago
@MbahWahyoe and no mention of the egg??? LOL... come on now...
chyrd 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan To prove that god exists is indeed simple. There is a bundle of prove. Existence of yourself is one. Just look at yourself. Everything is perfect with ur bodyparts doing their job so that u can live like a man. Obviously, there's intelligence behind this perfection. It just doesnt make sense that it can happen accidentally.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Now, Intelligence is an attribute. An attribute cannot exist on it's own. It must apply to something. What? Nature? There must be an essense with great intelligence that can arrange all the things around us in perfect order. Who can that be except God Almighty
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan you aren't born with intelligence... you learn through experience and teaching... Many animals including rats and ants display forms of intelligence... But let me give you the benefit of the doubt... let's say for the sake of argument that intelligence is indicative of a god... how does it prove your god above all others...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Exactly! you aren't born with inteligence. So where does this intelligence come from? U said "you learn through experience and teaching". That's not intelligence, That's knowledge. Intelligence is the brilliancy to accept knowledge. Where did this come from? This is the missing link of your so called evolution fact. The ONLY fact is that it is an incomplete theory.
Why "the benefit of the doubt'? Evolution fail to prove. Even Plato n aristotle accepts a supreme intelligence.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Intelligence is capacity to learn... Chimps show a great deal of intelligence and empathy, even handing down tool building. Considering we share a common ancestor it doesn't take much to understand where intelligence comes from. But here is a paper written by Kyle R. Skottke of the Rochester Institute of Technology on the subject of the evolution of human intelligence... Aristotle and Plato (if he existed) believed in the greek gods, and had no understanding of what we do now.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Paper on subject of the evolution of human intelligence only shows how it evolves from good to better.. I want to know how it started from nothing. U still haven't answered it. Again, other scientists r still disputing evolution theory. Search 4 flaws in evolution.
Believing in greek gods or not is irrelevant and doesn't show that their other works r wrong. And why the "if they existed"? It's irrelevant. We're discussing their product, not them.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan there are no scientists who are disputing that evolution through natural selection is indeed a fact... as far as answering how it started from nothing... it didn't... and there are many books on the subject... just go to a library... or search pubmed.org... I couldn't possibly answer that question in a mere 500 words. Besides... you have as yet to show proof of any god...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd No scientists disputing evolution theory? Get ur facts right. Pls read this report, By: Staff
Discovery Institute
February 8, 2007 -titled -Ranks of Scientists Doubting Darwin’s Theory on the Rise.
Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture today announced that over 700 scientists from around the world have now signed a statement expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution. Type dissentfromdarwin
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan The discovery institute is a creationist organization with no peer reviewed science papers. These guys had dentists signing petitions stating that evolution was wrong. do yourself a favor and look up things on Pubmed.org. you will find peer reviewed documents there... 700 is not a big number in the scientific community. Francis Collins, former head of the human genome project and a creationist states that without Darwin, the theory of evolution is a fact, shown in the genetics.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Come on chyrd.. Is that the best u can do? R u suggesting that all these people r nuts? What about the other billions. R they nuts too? One evidence is enough to prove something if there r no other conflicting proofs, let alone 700. This only proves disputing views. I certainly accept scientific facts that cannot b compromised.
I'm not totally against evolution, but it certainly does not point to no God. In fact, it points to Supreme Intelligence behind all these purpose.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Germans during ww2 thought it a grand idea to kill all the jews, gypsies and homosexuals... just because the masses think something is right... doesn't make it so.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Dr. Alfred Kroner, Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan and? So one scientist who is talking vaguely about what you are espousing... so what? Where is his proof? Again I say to you that the things you are saying are scientific in the qur'an are NOT... why? Because it is vague... it is so vague that it doesn't even make sense... you are basically stating that these particular words NOW fit something in modern times... why didn't we know about it before now? It's like Nostradamus making a prediction and us fitting an event into it.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd There r many more n u know that. It proves that scientists r disputing. That's all. U said no.
Anything can be vague if u don't want to understand it. If it's vague, u ask.., to understand what it means. If it doesnt make sense by all means.. reject.
Look closely bro. Nostradamus is predicting a coming event, whereas the Quran is unveiling an unknown fact. These facts r there all along, unknown until recently. Associating Nostradamus with what the Quran says is a NO GO.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan intelligence is ability to learn and has everything to do with the size of your cerebral cortex. As the cerebral cortex evolved so did intelligence... there is no need for a designer
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd But again, the question is,.. how it evolves from nothing to something with purpose and order? There is a need for a first supreme designer.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan NO... there is a need for you to do some basic reading on the subject...
chyrd 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan instinct evolves into intelligence... as the cerebral cortex evolves... when a new generation realizes that by sticking a branch in a hole you get more termites... then that generation passes it on to another... and so on...
chyrd 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan You have a blind spot in your eye... you have too many teeth to fit in your jaw... etc... it doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand the process of evolutionary biology... but in that context it does make sense as to why a squid has a better eye than you do... Our existence does NOT depend on a designer.... if it did... the designer would be fired... not to be gross but think about how close your pleasure center is to your waste disposal.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd We r designed to b imperfect. That's what makes it perfect. The effect is what caused the world to work gracefully. Think abt it...
That blind spot in our eye is a wisdom of creation. Only u see it as a flaw. It's how u understand it. It definitely has it's purpose, only we don't know. History shows that scientific discoveries supports quranic revelation point blank. You want me to give the references? I hv a lot. Only people who wishes to seek the truth will want it.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan if god made us in his image then he has a blind spot, back problems, too many teeth, and is a poor designer. that's only in the human animal... Please do enlighten me with how the Qur'an supports modern science... I'm very curious. If history showed that to be the case... the entire planet would follow Islam... so I doubt that you are correct... but please... do share...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd I'm a Muslim not a Christian. God cannot be associated with anything the mind can imagine.
I'm puzzeled why u ask this question. U said u had read the Quran, The facts are there, the big bang, wind pollination, preservation of pharaoh's body, the formation of clouds and rain, the formation of the human embryo etc. All these, 1400 yrs ago. How did Muhammad know?
If u refuse to believe, it's ur choice.
U can chq out truthway.tv Many full videos there.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan I know the passages you are speaking of... and they are so vague that you can say they apply to anything... they certainly don't speak of the big bang... As for preserving the pharaoh's body... that technology had been around 6000 years before muhammad was born... no trick there...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd "Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them"?... (Quran, 21:30). If this is vague, give it another meaning. "Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs"? (Quran, 78:6-7). If this is vague give it another meaning. "And He has set firm mountains in the earth so that it would not shake with you". (Quran, 16:15). If this is vague, give it another meaning.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan these are so vague that they don't even make sense... as for the last one... do you think that if you are on a moutain you aren't subject to earthquakes? come on now...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd If u can't give it another meaning, don't say it's vague. And to say it don;t even make sense sounds like the women's liberation crying " All men are fakes"
As for the last one, if the quran overlooked earthquakes, we would've been bombarded heavily on this single verse. It's simply means firming.. It is in line with the modern theory of plate tectonics that says, mountains work as stabilizers for the earth.
If I say "drink milo & u'll be healthy" Must u ask " I don't need to eat?"
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan NO... tell me exactly what it means... it is vague.. I don't understand what it means... and obviously no one in a thousand years figured it out either... otherwise it would be plain as the nose on your face... but it isn't.
chyrd 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan BTW... still waiting for you to prove a god... then we can get on to proving yours.
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd I had shown you proof, yourself, remember? The heavens and the earth.. all in perfect order and purpose, DNA Intelligent instuctional codes, u chq it out..
If u still refuse to accept these proof that billions of people say as proof, I do not see why we should go on.
But as a muslim, my job is not to judge whether u r sincere or not. I will go on if u want to know. Just ask and I will answer what I know. Only God knows all.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan you have NOT shown me proof of any god let alone yours... All of the things you are speaking of point to NO creator...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd I had shown you proof. Only you doesn't except it as proof. You haven't dispute my video. It's pure proof. What about the mathematical miracle of the Qur'an? Have you read it?
All the things I speak including evidences you provide points that nature is complex and have purpose on what they do. How can chance have purpose? It Only points to an Ultimate Intelligent Creator... God All Mighty.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@chyrd Look if the qur'an's intention was to show us things scientifically we wouldn't need the science books that we have now would we? You keep talking about chance... but there was no chance now was there... it actually happened... that is why you and I are talking here... stop thinking about the astronimcally ridiculous ideas that creationists talk about it being 1 in a trillion chance for things to occur... they did... that's all we need to know.
chyrd 1 year ago 2
@chyrd The Quran is not a book of science. But it is a book of Signs. The science messages in the Quran r only signs for us to think & observe the created so that we realise the creator.
It talks abt science to prove by supernatural means that God existed. These verses act as a catalyst for people to explore God's creation. That's what triggers the earlier arabs to explore & advanced in many fields namely astronomy & medicine. Alas! Now many muslims r straying away from what God persued.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan and become bogged down in there own religion as to not advance in almost a millenia
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd If you're interested, let's move on to what and why I believe Islam is the true religion above others instead of debating it. You will get more genuine information on what's going on in the muslim world.
Thanks Chyrd. I enjoyed chatting with you. I actually gained more knowledge.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan that's all I'm asking is that you share with me why you think Islam is the true religion... so please... do share
chyrd 1 year ago
seriously grow up people... you worship an imaginary friend...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Imaginary? ... U must be kidding. In Islam, we only deal with facts & evidence. I think ur the one who should grow up.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan Oh really? and your facts and evidences are what? Please enlighten me... Oh yeah... you can't say the Qu'ran... that's circular reasoning...
chyrd 1 year ago
@chyrd Yes really. a whole lot of it. Its been debated for more than a thousand years. Its a vast subject my friend. If ur sincere to know, ur wecome to ask anything or debate it if u like. My email is hussainkhansg@gmail.com
Make sense reasoning I guarantee.
sghussainkhan 1 year ago
@sghussainkhan if "Its been debated for more than a thousand years", then obviously you don't have proof... not any that can be taken seriously... for sure... real evidence doesn't need to be debated... it is what it is...
Here's a simple one for you... without using your quran... prove a god... then prove yours over all others...
chyrd 1 year ago
subhanallah...
bukti kebenaran Rasulullah..
gammafries 1 year ago
allah syg kan
setiap rumah2 nye..
-MASJID-
ikhwan67 2 years ago
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sghussainkhan 2 years ago
MashaALLAH
MasterZhugeLiang 2 years ago
وما ينطق عن الهوي ان هو الا وحي يوحي
بارك الله فيك وادخلك جناته
how did he knows that befor 1400 years
wow its amazing
kazzannova2008 2 years ago 6
@kazzannova2008 Did you know that aliens once roam our planet openly? They are advanced beings and so advanced that they (the bad aliens) decided to create religions to divide and conquer mankind.
Look at us humans now, fighting with each other proving who has the right God. Those who created the religions are quietly enjoying what they have done to mankind. Divide and conquer, a very old trick that is still being used until now.
wavemakerx 1 year ago