having 5 1/2" tubes is kinda pointless if your going to just end up running it out of 1 1/2" tube, you need to have it go back to the larger pvc size before going back into the pool; for all 5 tubes to be effective.
@RumbleTouchDroid There is a header at each end to reconnect all of the water from the five tubes. This set up has been very effective. In combination with the solar cover I have the pool up and running weeks ahead of my neighbors with this setup.
Personally, I think the line should be put in after the filter because its taking the dirty water from the pool and putting it back into the pool withought being filtered.
@bellerve201 That depends on your filter.Mine has been working like this for three years. Crystal clear water and the filter seems to work fine. I backwash it once in a while and I have 8 kids that use the pool almost everyday in the summer. It really does work really, really well!!!
@bellerve201 It really works great. Still have to vacuum out the pool once in a while but, really, the water stays clean. I have shut off valves on both ends so if it looked like your pool wasn't staying clean you could turn it off for a few days to let the water clean up. It has rained here everyday for 1 solid week. Pool was at 70 degrees as a result. Ran the thing yesterday and it was up to 74 by the end of the day! Two more days and I'm up at 80! Solid heavy rain always sets me back.
Yes, Kept the pool up at 80 degrees.....This thing really helps. Highly recommend doing this for your set up. If you are in NJ or Lower NY State or Eastern PA, I will come out and do it for you (for a fee).....
Kept the pool temp up around 80 degrees with this system even though the night time temp went down into the 50s. This system works really well as long as the Sun stays out. Two days of clowdy whether and rain dropped the temp a bit but I am confident to bring it back up quickly with this system.
looks like shite , oy mate seems your a master piper up down and all around, but if you realy want to do it right , just pipe it to the roof. and save your self a wasted sunday and a 12 pack . and a 2 stage pump might be a start to slow the flow shela. and for christ sake hook it to the return that hose on the lader is sexy but watch you dont go ringn the kiddies knecks with it .
@galatasaray710 Whats a ghetto system? Do they have swimming pools in the ghetto? This system works great and I have been using it for 4 years now with no troubles. Just don't leave it on at night.
You could probably create more heat by running the water back and forth through all the pipe. Instead of having headers at each end just loop it back to the next higher pipe. The water should get hotter with each run through the pipe. No?
Area of the pool itself much more than area of the pipes. Pool has been heating by the sun already. So you are measuring the direct sun heated pool like seas all around. Am I wrong?
@farukkaradeniz Hi This is Rocketmaker10000 but Youtube has now linked everything to this account for some reason. Anyway, this system is supplemental. Of course the surface area of the pool is larger. Trust me on this, the pool temp goes up much faster with the system ON then with the system off.
Nice, you can even thread clear soda/coke bottles on the pipe if you have space and thats a cheap way to create more heat and it saves the land fill.? Subbed mate.?
@Aqlor I did use Zip Ties and they still droop. Oh well. When you are in the pool it doesn't seem to be a bother and I rather have warm water and messy tubes than cold water and neat tubes.... This is worth it and with my solar cover it was very warm most of this past summer and the one before it.
@Aqlor Thanks for the complement. Post yours and subscribe to mine and I will subscribe to yours then we can see any improvements on the designs that happen over time....
@RocketMaker10000 I wish I had one ^^ I live in a duplex and it's impossible for me to have a pool here, I was just searching for curiosity, wanted to see if these things existed and how did they work. Once I noticed I was watching a lot of these videos of people showing they homemade creations which turn out really cool in some cases
@Aqlor Work hard and maybe one day you can move to a house with a pool. I don't really use it much but my kids love it. This set up really does increase the pool temp and it does keep the pool much warmer than when I didn't have it on there. I had the solar cover first and that helped so I figured this would help more and between the two I am very pleased with this system. It has two on/off points so if the outside air temp goes down, you can turn it off and still let the filter run.
I would like to point out that the heating lines being exposed to open air are not very effective even though it may work. the problem is that once the temperature difference between the water/pipe and the air gets large enough you will not be able to heat the water any more because all of the heat would convect away. If you really wanted to increase your heating abilities, isolate the tubing such that it is not open to outside air. Build a cleartop box so no heat is convected away.
@malovich You are right. That is why I have an on/off value at each end of the black tubes. Thus if temperature declines, I turn it off and just keep the solar cover on to try and keep the heat in. I had the cover on and the solar tubing running most of the summer and for the most part the pool temps was between 85 and 90 almost all summer. It works like dream and it free....building more around it would be great but I don't think it is really necessary. Let me know if you build one.....
Is your filter programmed to run at certain times during the day? I ask because if the filter runs at night and the valves to the solar system are left on it will act like a radiator and release the heat into the atmosphere. Just a thought.
@odius94 It has a timer that can be programmed to run day or night. I run it during the day because that is when I have the most people in the pool. Plus my electric company doesn't give any discounts whether I run it at night or during the day. They used to offer better deals at night. Since they don't do that anymore why bother running it at night. I recently put in a new liner. See my other videos and the water that was delivered was 58 degrees. Got it up to 80 in 6 days with it.
@MrCoryjohnson1 I don't think the pool will look as nice with a black bottom. It looks really nice as is so I don't really want to have the pool black. I have a solar cover and the solar heater here and I can usually raise the pool temp pretty fast provided the outside air at night doesn't pull it way down.
what if you coil up regular garden hoses and place them on your roof and buy a regular utility pump nothing big theyre bout 99 dollars USD then you dont need to use the pool's pump at all
@MrEcunningham I don't feel like having a bunch of other pipes in and out of the pool so I will use what is already available. The pump runs fine with this Solar heater but right now I am measuring it for a new liner.
If you put the hoses tighter together they will in turn keep each other heated so instead of having a huge gap in between each hose keep them closer together and they will heat the pool even more efficiently
Good point but it would block the view out to the yard. The liner ripped over the winter so the pool is actually empty now and I am measuring for a new liner and I am going to make some video of the project to post on Youtube. Stay tuned.
Too expensive. Tight budget right now. Roof is very slanted and not fun to get up on to do installs. Not a bad idea for anybody else though. If the economy turns around I will consider it again.
Now how do you feel after 8 feet of snow this year?:) N Az has sunny skies, a few winter flurries and not the killer heat of Phoenix. BTW when I said earlier about a solar cover I meant some heat retaining material like clear plastic or plexiglass covering the black poly pipe that you have on the fence then back this with an larger heat absorbing material like black aluminum you know - typical solar design.
OK, better than nothing- barely. At least it's out of the way, but would never do in the early or late season. A dedicated insulated covered heater would produce 110 deg water. But good work.
This system works well and a solar cover would help as well. I have had two solar covers over the years and they tend to wear out fast and then I have little pieces fo round plastic punchouts in the bottom of the pool to vacuum out. The combination of both will raise up the temp and help prevent heat loss at night.
The same amount of water is pumped through the system and no extra pressure according to the Pressure gauge so IMO it will work fine with my current pump. Can't speak for all makes and models but I have used this for two full seasons so far and my pump is still working fine.
Hey, nice set up. I'm going with a little more volume. Tapping off my 2 inch pipe, after the pump, filter, chlorine generator, right before it goes back to the pool. All clean water will get bypassed to the heater. I'm using larger pipe for more surface area to gather heat, plus the more diameter the pipe, the less speed. Smaller pipe will shoot the water thru it fast, which we don't want. The pipe wil remain 2 inches until it goes to the manifold. The manifold will distribute to 1in pipe.
I have headers at each end and a valve at each end so I can vary the "flow" out of the unit. The wider pipe is a good idea. Let me know how it works. I was going on the shoestring budget and seems to work well. I problem I had this year was that it would get up to 80 degrees and then it would rain for three days and drop the temp back down to 75 and then it would work back up. Strange Summer...so much for Global Warming. I was looking forward to swimming in the pool in November!
In Ga my pool would get up to 96 deg. in August. At that point I will have another bypass to run the water to a set of pipes burried along side the shady side of the house to cool it off.
As of today I had a chance to check the pool. 81 degrees and it has been 61 degrees at night. Kids are in the pool almost everyday....most of the day!!!!!
Copper might be a good idea but it would be WAY more expensive to do it that way. Remember that you want enough water "sitting" in the tubes to keep the water temperature getting hotter. Shorter piping would limit that somewhat. Copper tubing was never in my mind as the cost would push it up to buying a Propane heater I think. Could be wrong but never really priced it out. The tubing is cheap and works.
Nice job and nice pool. Was thinking of doing something along the same line but not as long as your setup. Do you think that metal piping (galvanized, copper etc.) would get hotter if it were painted black? I would think so. May be more costly of course. What's your take on that? Thanks for the video and info!
having 5 1/2" tubes is kinda pointless if your going to just end up running it out of 1 1/2" tube, you need to have it go back to the larger pvc size before going back into the pool; for all 5 tubes to be effective.
RumbleTouchDroid 2 weeks ago
@RumbleTouchDroid There is a header at each end to reconnect all of the water from the five tubes. This set up has been very effective. In combination with the solar cover I have the pool up and running weeks ahead of my neighbors with this setup.
TransAtlanticEV 2 weeks ago
Simple improvement would be to chop up some corrugate roofing as chincy reflectors - add about 40% reflectivity even with painted surface
goosenekkr 7 months ago
Personally, I think the line should be put in after the filter because its taking the dirty water from the pool and putting it back into the pool withought being filtered.
bellerve201 8 months ago
@bellerve201 That depends on your filter.Mine has been working like this for three years. Crystal clear water and the filter seems to work fine. I backwash it once in a while and I have 8 kids that use the pool almost everyday in the summer. It really does work really, really well!!!
ElectricConversions 8 months ago
@ElectricConversions Well, It was just a concept for me. I just thought it would keep the water a little cleaner.
bellerve201 8 months ago
@bellerve201 It really works great. Still have to vacuum out the pool once in a while but, really, the water stays clean. I have shut off valves on both ends so if it looked like your pool wasn't staying clean you could turn it off for a few days to let the water clean up. It has rained here everyday for 1 solid week. Pool was at 70 degrees as a result. Ran the thing yesterday and it was up to 74 by the end of the day! Two more days and I'm up at 80! Solid heavy rain always sets me back.
ElectricConversions 8 months ago
Yes, Kept the pool up at 80 degrees.....This thing really helps. Highly recommend doing this for your set up. If you are in NJ or Lower NY State or Eastern PA, I will come out and do it for you (for a fee).....
ElectricConversions 8 months ago
Kept the pool temp up around 80 degrees with this system even though the night time temp went down into the 50s. This system works really well as long as the Sun stays out. Two days of clowdy whether and rain dropped the temp a bit but I am confident to bring it back up quickly with this system.
ElectricConversions 9 months ago
hellairious !!!!
looks like shite , oy mate seems your a master piper up down and all around, but if you realy want to do it right , just pipe it to the roof. and save your self a wasted sunday and a 12 pack . and a 2 stage pump might be a start to slow the flow shela. and for christ sake hook it to the return that hose on the lader is sexy but watch you dont go ringn the kiddies knecks with it .
rharha2112 9 months ago
man what a mess there really couldnt been any thing easier?
MegaDeathwarrant 9 months ago
I was inspired! My homemade hot tub:
youtube.com/watch?v=fIQqWnDR2Sk
opn24hrs 10 months ago
that is one ghetto heating system
galatasaray710 10 months ago
@galatasaray710 Whats a ghetto system? Do they have swimming pools in the ghetto? This system works great and I have been using it for 4 years now with no troubles. Just don't leave it on at night.
ElectricConversions 10 months ago
You could probably create more heat by running the water back and forth through all the pipe. Instead of having headers at each end just loop it back to the next higher pipe. The water should get hotter with each run through the pipe. No?
Derf2258 1 year ago
Area of the pool itself much more than area of the pipes. Pool has been heating by the sun already. So you are measuring the direct sun heated pool like seas all around. Am I wrong?
farukkaradeniz 1 year ago
@farukkaradeniz Hi This is Rocketmaker10000 but Youtube has now linked everything to this account for some reason. Anyway, this system is supplemental. Of course the surface area of the pool is larger. Trust me on this, the pool temp goes up much faster with the system ON then with the system off.
ElectricConversions 1 year ago
Nice, you can even thread clear soda/coke bottles on the pipe if you have space and thats a cheap way to create more heat and it saves the land fill.? Subbed mate.?
SaveDurban 1 year ago
@SaveDurban .....old soda bottles might look a little weird but it would probably work. Let me know if you try it.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
Hm you could use zip ties to make those heating lines straight and look better...its cheap and probably worth it
Aqlor 1 year ago
@Aqlor I did use Zip Ties and they still droop. Oh well. When you are in the pool it doesn't seem to be a bother and I rather have warm water and messy tubes than cold water and neat tubes.... This is worth it and with my solar cover it was very warm most of this past summer and the one before it.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
@RocketMaker10000 oh well ... in the end you still ended up with one of the best systems I could find on youtube, with or without drooping tubes :P
Aqlor 1 year ago
@Aqlor Thanks for the complement. Post yours and subscribe to mine and I will subscribe to yours then we can see any improvements on the designs that happen over time....
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
@RocketMaker10000 I wish I had one ^^ I live in a duplex and it's impossible for me to have a pool here, I was just searching for curiosity, wanted to see if these things existed and how did they work. Once I noticed I was watching a lot of these videos of people showing they homemade creations which turn out really cool in some cases
Aqlor 1 year ago
@Aqlor Work hard and maybe one day you can move to a house with a pool. I don't really use it much but my kids love it. This set up really does increase the pool temp and it does keep the pool much warmer than when I didn't have it on there. I had the solar cover first and that helped so I figured this would help more and between the two I am very pleased with this system. It has two on/off points so if the outside air temp goes down, you can turn it off and still let the filter run.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
I would like to point out that the heating lines being exposed to open air are not very effective even though it may work. the problem is that once the temperature difference between the water/pipe and the air gets large enough you will not be able to heat the water any more because all of the heat would convect away. If you really wanted to increase your heating abilities, isolate the tubing such that it is not open to outside air. Build a cleartop box so no heat is convected away.
malovich 1 year ago
@malovich You are right. That is why I have an on/off value at each end of the black tubes. Thus if temperature declines, I turn it off and just keep the solar cover on to try and keep the heat in. I had the cover on and the solar tubing running most of the summer and for the most part the pool temps was between 85 and 90 almost all summer. It works like dream and it free....building more around it would be great but I don't think it is really necessary. Let me know if you build one.....
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
Is your filter programmed to run at certain times during the day? I ask because if the filter runs at night and the valves to the solar system are left on it will act like a radiator and release the heat into the atmosphere. Just a thought.
odius94 1 year ago
@odius94 It has a timer that can be programmed to run day or night. I run it during the day because that is when I have the most people in the pool. Plus my electric company doesn't give any discounts whether I run it at night or during the day. They used to offer better deals at night. Since they don't do that anymore why bother running it at night. I recently put in a new liner. See my other videos and the water that was delivered was 58 degrees. Got it up to 80 in 6 days with it.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
@RocketMaker10000 Nice. I'll check out the other vids now.
odius94 1 year ago
if you put somthing black on the bottom of your pool it will help to absorb heat and warm your pool.
MrCoryjohnson1 1 year ago
@MrCoryjohnson1 I don't think the pool will look as nice with a black bottom. It looks really nice as is so I don't really want to have the pool black. I have a solar cover and the solar heater here and I can usually raise the pool temp pretty fast provided the outside air at night doesn't pull it way down.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
what if you coil up regular garden hoses and place them on your roof and buy a regular utility pump nothing big theyre bout 99 dollars USD then you dont need to use the pool's pump at all
MrEcunningham 1 year ago
@MrEcunningham I don't feel like having a bunch of other pipes in and out of the pool so I will use what is already available. The pump runs fine with this Solar heater but right now I am measuring it for a new liner.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
If you put the hoses tighter together they will in turn keep each other heated so instead of having a huge gap in between each hose keep them closer together and they will heat the pool even more efficiently
MrEcunningham 1 year ago
@MrEcunningham
Good point but it would block the view out to the yard. The liner ripped over the winter so the pool is actually empty now and I am measuring for a new liner and I am going to make some video of the project to post on Youtube. Stay tuned.
RocketMaker10000 1 year ago
Why dont you buy the panels and put them on your roof?
markd514 2 years ago
Too expensive. Tight budget right now. Roof is very slanted and not fun to get up on to do installs. Not a bad idea for anybody else though. If the economy turns around I will consider it again.
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
@RocketMaker10000 sell your pool
makealilmoney 1 year ago
Are you in the U.S. and which part? I'm in SC and hoping to transfer to AZ whew!
IronHorsez88 2 years ago
Nortern NJ. Friend of mine is moving down to SC just north of Charleston. Why move to AZ?
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
@RocketMaker10000
Now how do you feel after 8 feet of snow this year?:) N Az has sunny skies, a few winter flurries and not the killer heat of Phoenix. BTW when I said earlier about a solar cover I meant some heat retaining material like clear plastic or plexiglass covering the black poly pipe that you have on the fence then back this with an larger heat absorbing material like black aluminum you know - typical solar design.
IronHorsez88 2 years ago
OK, better than nothing- barely. At least it's out of the way, but would never do in the early or late season. A dedicated insulated covered heater would produce 110 deg water. But good work.
IronHorsez88 2 years ago
Hey IronHorsez88,
This system works well and a solar cover would help as well. I have had two solar covers over the years and they tend to wear out fast and then I have little pieces fo round plastic punchouts in the bottom of the pool to vacuum out. The combination of both will raise up the temp and help prevent heat loss at night.
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
that will kill your pump right?
toxicfrost123 2 years ago
The same amount of water is pumped through the system and no extra pressure according to the Pressure gauge so IMO it will work fine with my current pump. Can't speak for all makes and models but I have used this for two full seasons so far and my pump is still working fine.
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
Hey, nice set up. I'm going with a little more volume. Tapping off my 2 inch pipe, after the pump, filter, chlorine generator, right before it goes back to the pool. All clean water will get bypassed to the heater. I'm using larger pipe for more surface area to gather heat, plus the more diameter the pipe, the less speed. Smaller pipe will shoot the water thru it fast, which we don't want. The pipe wil remain 2 inches until it goes to the manifold. The manifold will distribute to 1in pipe.
whtrepblcn 2 years ago
I have headers at each end and a valve at each end so I can vary the "flow" out of the unit. The wider pipe is a good idea. Let me know how it works. I was going on the shoestring budget and seems to work well. I problem I had this year was that it would get up to 80 degrees and then it would rain for three days and drop the temp back down to 75 and then it would work back up. Strange Summer...so much for Global Warming. I was looking forward to swimming in the pool in November!
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
In Ga my pool would get up to 96 deg. in August. At that point I will have another bypass to run the water to a set of pipes burried along side the shady side of the house to cool it off.
whtrepblcn 2 years ago
Now that is climate control!!!
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
As of today I had a chance to check the pool. 81 degrees and it has been 61 degrees at night. Kids are in the pool almost everyday....most of the day!!!!!
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
Copper might be a good idea but it would be WAY more expensive to do it that way. Remember that you want enough water "sitting" in the tubes to keep the water temperature getting hotter. Shorter piping would limit that somewhat. Copper tubing was never in my mind as the cost would push it up to buying a Propane heater I think. Could be wrong but never really priced it out. The tubing is cheap and works.
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
Nice job and nice pool. Was thinking of doing something along the same line but not as long as your setup. Do you think that metal piping (galvanized, copper etc.) would get hotter if it were painted black? I would think so. May be more costly of course. What's your take on that? Thanks for the video and info!
Edski35 2 years ago
Glad you liked it. Its been raining for two days so the pool temp went back down. Can't keep it hot without the SUN!!! Bring it back!!!!
RocketMaker10000 2 years ago
Nice!!
mykuki00 2 years ago