Make a Zinc Air Battery

[collinwillson99]

Could you use copper wool instead of steel?

[thien369852]

@collinwillson99 No.

[trendsetter37]

@collinwillson99 yes

[rich1051414]

@collinwillson99 The iron in the steel is required to drive the reaction. I do not think copper would work unless by chance another reaction occurs that happens to also drive the reaction.

[lakloplak]

My potato has got more voltage

[AdmiralGilgamesh]

I am in no way involved with science, but I find these videos so incredibly entertaining.

[aei05h1]

@AdmiralGilgamesh Then you are involved in science!! Science is for everybody, have fun watching

[juvaatai]

you are my idol

[soniakash93]

What is the paper you have used. Is there any alternative for this. If there please tell me.

[TheLameJosh]

Finally, something I have the materials for!!

[iPlayVideoGames10]

I'm so gonna ask my chem. teacher about this!

[koolium]

i have an urge to eat the metal wool....

[JJStuffEngineering]

i don't really get it,but it is fascinating!

[joeylawn36111]

more that 1/2 watt - cool

[jucest]

I am looking for home made battery To store Electricity from solar cells.. This one produces good Current does not mean if I take large 5 Gallon Container and Use Large Zinc Plates and 5 Gallon of Steel MESH. I can get 220AH Battery with 6Volt DC current.

[BassPounderX]

whats with the voice

[Dawgmeatt]

@BassPounderX I'm pretty sure he has to do it to cover his own ass. He probably has to stay anonymous due to most likely using the lab for this purpose wouldn't be approved if he asked the owner to.

[narutoisthebestevaaa]

@BassPounderX he's from delocated

[MrIlikegadgets]

Time to stock up for the apocalypse lol

[PhoShoskii]

Can you use a different solution to make this?

[instrkt]

Nice! If interested, show some technically advanced version, for emergency power!

[Desmaad]

Would you show us how to make an alkaline battery?

[GameGuyLithuania]

why do i think that you are KIPKAY ?

[Dreaddthebaws]

Voice only edited cause its a sexy females voice behind it.

[P3arlJang]

Thank you. You make me want to strive more in Chemistry.

[thebestofall007]

have you tried using activated carbon instead of steel wool as the cathode? activated carbon has a much larger surface area than steel wool for air to contact.

[aldelsig]

very good video, which battery would you buy for a car conversion project?

[xtremegameuser]

I just wanna know

[xtremegameuser]

The battery you made in this video is it capable of powering an HTC phone for example HTC sensation

[taeke18]

@xtremegameuser Just to do a quick calculation:

W=I*V

0.68*0.84=0.54Wh

The HTC does need more power. My HTC desire has a 5,180wh battery

[xtremegameuser]

@taeke18 so in plain english it wouldn't power the htc sensation

[Wasper216]

@taeke18

W is unequal Wh! 5.18Wh means the battery can deliver 5.18W for one hour until it's completely depleted, that would be a current of approx 1.4A (at 3.7V voltage).

But still you would need quite a lot of these selfmade batteries, cell phones usually need at least 3.5V-3.7V to power on.

[LosDynasty]

You get a zinc out of a battery to make another battery LOL!

[Lasershot117]

Someones been playing Black Ops too much :P !

[SargentLimpDick]

Thanks to you I've decided to major in chemistry instead of database programming (sql)

[Emeengor]

@SargentLimpDick how could such a think be done? (did you start all over again?)

[SargentLimpDick]

@Emeengor I'm currently finishing high school. I've lead most my year with the intentions of majoring in computer science. (Database programming) But after seeing true chemistry 2nd hand I've decided to change what I major in. I've always been a fan of computers and science.

[a674101]

@SargentLimpDick amazing how this aligns with my predicament exactly

[odv000]

it seems like this steel wool is the factor which limit output current because it has significant resistance and at half amp current you will get significant voltage drop on it.

how about using few alligator clips on it ant connecting wires together?

[gtahoer]

nurdrage is drunk in this vid

[dargarin]

And pop goes your amp meter fuse. Doh

[rpg8778]

can you charge this battery using the rasberry solar panel?

[tweety30number11]

ur sooo cool!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow i want to try it thank you

great vid scarey voice

[bobby0123987456]

good video :D

[rickrick1545]

SOUNDS LIKE KIP KAY W/O HIM TRYING TO BE FUNNY

[genieieiop]

So the zinc used to make this battery was obtained from another battery? ><

[egkteam]

why is your voice so bass?

[Wolfslawyer]

how can i make a more powerfull battery??:S

[TechBoywii]

@Wolfslawyer u dont. nah, just you need EXTREMELY pure chemicals

[Ubojica6661]

Dear NurdRage! I made zinc carbon battery, and used only clean water for electrolite (hope I spelled that right). I got 1.5v which is about at maximum for 1 battery cell. But my current is too low, when I used salty water, it was a bit higher. I can make better battery using sodium hydroxide on additional chem hours in my school, but cannot show you because I cannot. Can you make one using zinc and carbon with bigger current? Thanx!

[brookie2664]

Using a DC-DC transformer, it should be possible to boost the voltage while lowering the amperage. This means...... well.... you can get this to a fairly well voltage without getting rid of too many miliamps.

[MrSlambangboom]

i have a question for you drinking water that has a high nitric acid content other than pouring in an alkalie and mixing is there another way to nuetralize the ph ie distilation,freezing etc.

[glenalbert5]

How long will the battery be able to produce a good current for, and is it "rechargeable"?

[TripleX2go]

What will happen if you use copper wool instead of steel wool?

[laaaggsss]

can you use salt water as the electrolyte like in the aluminum air cell battery?

[stevenliang96]

how does the electrolyte affects the cell?

[Johnhardman011]

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[sonnychong87]

hi uploader, i tried this but i only get 100mA instead of 0.68 A. is it because i use different types of steel wool? or is it because of something else?

[wimpykid422]

ima tell my science teacher 2 look u up

[varad5454]

what is the taste of concentrated naoh --- Sent From NurdRage's AppRats (Facebook App)!

[jjagermeister52]

How long did this experiment continue to produce this voltage?

[HomoSapien2012]

Great video man. can u do the "Paper battery" experiment video?

[scienceman64]

@freakqnc no, the cost of the aluminum would be too great, as well as the fact that this reaction is very exothermic.

[TheIgzo]

what is that in the bottom of the beaker? that tablet thing?

[TechBoywii]

@TheIgzo its a magnet, that stirs the chemicals on the hot plate.

[TheMysticCore]

This is very interesting...

Question: what would happen if you galvanized a magnet? Would that increse its magnetic pull or would you have your very own battery?

[tashona123]

instead of getting all sciency go buy some powerade (it has electrolyte in it)

[98JMA]

@tashona123

Do you know what an electrolyte is??

[tashona123]

@98JMA to be honest i have no idea it just says in a certain powerades ingredients that it has electrolyte

[98JMA]

@tashona123

Fair enough . . .anyway, an electrolyte is simply a solution that will conduct electricity, so the electrolytes in the drink are probably for the wellbeing of your heart or something.

[skywize]

I don't know much about the difference between voltage and wattage. About what voltage would this be in comparison to a regular AA battery?

[AdamSeeb]

hello, how pure is the zinc got from the battery?

[bsboy20]

i'd like to let you know nurdrage i had a serious difficulty disposing of the lye. i ended up burning holes into my favorite shirt and getting concentrated sulfuric acid on my arm long story i didnt realize how potent the sulfuric acid was.

[freakqnc]

Wait a minute... since hydrogen can be produced using aluminum metal and sodium hydroxide, can that be used to make hydrogen on on-demand in a safe manner? And would that be economically viable? Just curious here...

[98JMA]

@freakqnc

Probably yes . . .although it (may) be cheaper to react an acid with a metal instead.

[Livingreciever]

whats the little metal thing in the beaker when heating stuff up?? its spinning.

[dan313111]

@Livingreciever its a magnet... he explains in one of his videos... but i cant remember which one

[bearpatch626]

@dan313111 yes its a magnet with a wich reacts to the induction coil in his heater..... it spins continuously so you dont have too! :)

[dan313111]

@bearpatch626 sounds like a commercial

[fragfestchampion]

Your videos make me want to pursue a career in chemistry.

[magna59]

Any chance of showing a recharable please. Nice work.

[matthew1198765]

can you please do a video showing how to make a decent capacitor?

[phantomhockeyzero]

cant you use gatoade as electrolides?

[bearpatch626]

@phantomhockeyzero maybe gatorade and pennies for zinc? ( they are 97% zinc)



[hl23cham]

I try to do this but I don't know why I only get 0.1 Amps and 0.7 V maximum. :(

[h82sk8]

How much power is available from a cell like this? It would have been educational to show a few of these wired in series to a light bulb or motor.

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Why steel wool? Would sheet metal work?

[Turk435]

Hey to put things into perspective for me how much is the energy battery putting out...

what I am trying to ask is what X object could it power for X hours, or something like that....

Thanks alot!

[wendyspwnsu]

is your voice eidted ??

[AgentCROCODILE]

@wendyspwnsu He is a chemist. There is a good chance it was because of that SF6 gas. ;)

[Adahqyt24]

@wendyspwnsu no (yes you idiot)

[wendyspwnsu]

@Adahqyt24 ):<

[Livingreciever]

@wendyspwnsu yeah privacy. its so he doesnt get hunted down by terorists to make bombs.

[matchbox2022]

@wendyspwnsu Imagine hearing his o-voice.

[wendyspwnsu]

@matchbox2022 im pretty sure it is.. i don't think hardly any people have a voice like this... but iv been proven wrong before....

CHOOLAATTEEE RAAAÄAAïIINN!!!!

[paperarmor2]

@wendyspwnsu no dip sherlock.

[TheAlertHusky]

@wendyspwnsu Of course not, he just has an electric replacement voice box because he was yelling at his students too much :b

[onouh]

@wendyspwnsu no, its jigsaw

[frechieguy]

How long do these typically last?

[Maniyac007]

I want your voice... I hate being Justin Bieber :(

[kirbydude55]

I love your videos so much!



[FortNikitaBullion]

Could you recharge such a battery?

[Ratiqu]

Just out of curiosity, how many practical applications would there be?

[darcyryan99]

Hey nice video! would using hydrogen peroxide work any better for this instead of normal water? please reply

[tibby499]

i subscribed, liked and commented ... what`s next ?

[Joethemadman123]

I wanna play a game...

[shellfish312]

now what could you power with the battery?@nurdrage

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I'm told zinc is also available at home improvement centers. Used along roof peaks to inhibit the growth of moss. I'll be looking into that this spring as I need it desperately.

[gretdude]

Very fascinating is all I can say.

[737Pilot122]

You should put some resistors in the circuit to make it more useful. You should do a potatoe battery but make it awesome like you do.

[NurdRage]

@SciGuy10 I want to, i really do, but i'm a lot more busy now with my current job and the videos cost more money than they make so i can't make this channel into a job. Eventually i'll have new videos, i just don't know when.

[TheSuperFungus]

@NurdRage I don't mind if you use adwords or whatever go generate cash here. What's this Vevo that the music people are doing, surely that has something to do with view tracking and royalties, maybe that's a way to find a little extra cash.

You pick and place ads and I'll diligently click on them to help out, these videos are well worth my ad clicks

[Momo66342]

@NurdRage Come on camera?

[Phacias]

@NurdRage Do You accept donations? You should open an account or publish Pay Pal or something. People are really willing to give You money for this amazing job!

[jetflyer96]

Haha acids remind me of a little accident I had last year, I was making tri sodium phosphate (tsp), to clean my garage floors and I spilled the acid all down my shirt and pants, and well lets just say, I needed someone to bring me clothes. Underwear and everything. I quarter sized scar on my left arm and it it hurt

[pyrolytic]

What are the gases released by this? I presume this is a very short term electrical

generating battery? I am not a chemist nor a "nurd"; just curious.

[pyrolytic]

Would ordinary bleach (6% by volume sodium hypochlorite) also work ~ well, with this? I am not a chemist. I find All chemical batteries are fascinating.

[jackrow3]

hi there great job there as always!!!i wonder? if you can demonstrate the making of various colored salts such as MnCl2, Ni(NO3)2..etc.and then put them in sodium silicate for a nice chemical garden finish..

[BirrelSquoy]

As an aspiring nerd, myself, I'm an agnostic. Seeing your videos, however... Well, let's just say that knowing that there are people as intelligent as you in this world provides my "theist" side ^ - ^

Keep up the good work, AND the fantastic uploads!!!

[overunitydotcom]

The best and cheapest solution is graphite with alufoil as the electrodes and

water and K2CO3 as the electrolyte.

This gives about 1.3 to 1.5 Volts and lasts long and graphite can be selfmade

(lookup the overunity forum)

or from pencils. And Alufoil you can get from every supermarket.

Regards, Stefan.

[LichKingpro]

do you make money from these videos?

[NurdRage]

@someguy1x go for it

[someguy1x]

@NurdRage I don't know if you reaction is sarcastic. But I was just pointing out a mistake.

The subtitles say ''With''. But you say ''Or''

Also. Great vid.

[Johannzz]

Would there be a significant change of Voltage, if you blow onto the steel wool?

[posaidon100]

sorry bronze is for the al air battery for the zn b the best is stanlees steel and crafit

[NurdRage]

@iroq5550 No you can't, that's not a hydrogen fuel cell. 

[posaidon100]

thanks for the vid i learned a few things the real quastion is can yu make it better? :-) i know that you can get 1.2 volt per cell i got 09 v i will try to use bronze with zinc and naoh and see i what get i dont wanna sound gready but how to get the zink back from the na.znoh ?

[crimsontaints]

the amps ! they're over 9000 !

[Wrmwolf]

TCPO?

[JesusHChrist2000]

@machineheas \

Were you even paying atention? The Hydroxide is an imporntant part of the reaction.

[MrGuitarZeppelin]

Always a fun and informative watch, keep up the good work!

[mtalsi1]

brilliant as always!

[timboardin]

@mtalsi1 agreed! ;)

[R4WC0D3R]

kl video :D

[lebking95]

@NurdRage ..umm noo. i did not, i was kidding...

[lebking95]

@mandn5787 google...

[imanulsofian]

Where is the video of "making KClO3 by electrolysis".

[swimmercjl]

how long does the battery produce a current, and will the materials (zinc, steel wool, etc.) be reusable after?

[killer2611]

YA man!! ima make like 100 of these and store them in my underground bunker so i can charge my ipod during the apocalypse. forget food and water, tune age is all i'll need to survive

[Bluetorchproductions]

so is this battery useful for a survival situation IE Nuclear bomb shelter, put a few of the dry cells in there until needed?

are they powerful enough to charge something for example an IPod or electric shaver

[Fuegoazul01]

Does this only work with Sodium Hydroxide? Or does it work with another group I hydroxide, for example, Potassium Hydroxide?

Still, great videos, thanks for taking your time to film and explain them!

[The0Burger0King]

You shoulda hooked a light bulb up to it! Cool video though.

[yugt100]

nurd rage thank you for this great video!!!!!

[kimeric94]

Can you make a tutorial video on how to make a simple water 2 L bottle rocket?

that would be fun.

[TheDrakenZ]

nice man. Love your videos, and thankfully google didnt cut off "Please subscribe, like/rate, and comment" this time. haha. Thanks for the videos man! Keep em coming!

[Ciscoql]

would you be able to have organic reactions uploaded? i know you specialize in organic but maybe you could convince one of your fellow scientist to help out?

[NurdRage]

@Ciscoql my "make TCPO" video is organic chemistry.

[bhattshivamm]

@NurdRage

I've got about 10 gram of 'LEAD METAL'. then I've made some lead sulfide by heating the lead with sulfur.I have some HCl of about 50% concentration.when i reacted lead sulfide with HCl, bubbles of hydrogen sulfide were not given up.So, what should I do to make lead(ll) chloride - PbCl2 ...........?

[Ciscoql]

@NurdRage well yes but i meant upload some more organic videos doing different reactions

[NurdRage]

@Ciscoql i also have a synthesis for hydrazine through a ketazine intermediate, thats organic chemistry.

[jazerazo]

Thanks!! Yours are the best videos on Youtube.

[riththelion]

can you make a Better one

[zbret]

I know this is a chem channel, but since people are asking how this could be used, you could get a MCP1624 from Microchip which is under 50 cents each, add one inductor, 2 capacitors, and 2 resistors and you now have a boost supply. Set it for 5V (using the resistors) and you now have USB charging power. It would run from one of these batteries, but hope you are up on your surface mount soldering if you plan to build it.

[ArtistBlade1972]

@zbret What is the startup voltage for a 5V output? The datasheet only lists the startup V for a 3.3V output...

[zbret]

@ArtistBlade1972 Don't know of a spec, but see section 4.2.6. As you would expect, the output just goes though the resistor divider, so startup voltage shouldn't be affected by output. I could see it changing the time for startup, but not much. Anyway, the point is that its cheap and easy to turn low voltage things like this into good sources of power.

[PsalmsOfPlanets072]

You should totally teach me chemistry, as my current teacher is losing his mind from most likely inhaling toxic fumes over something like 30+ years of being a teacher. Not to mention half the material he gives us is wrong. 4.18 calories (I corrected the test's unit with Joules) doesn't raise 1g of water 1 degree celcius.

[anhero23]

1 amp can kill you. This was .67 amps...

[C0ldFart]

always subscribed, always likeing it, but unable to comment, I'm baffled

[3981784]

isn't negative the cathode and positive the anode?

[MortQ42]

@3981784 the cathode receives electrons from the external circuit. it's easy to mix things up when you're looking at them from different points of view (e.g. physics vs chemistry).

[pjonsonfilms]

What are you using to stir the mixture? Where can I get one?

[camelsonhorizon]

537 Likes, two dislikes. YES!

[jillydiane132]

you helped me through sophomore chemistry :) my teacher loved your videos

[dragonridley]

Since this video mentions the reaction.

I have never quite gotten a clear answer on the reaction equation between the aluminum and the NaOH.

[EMDSD40LocoDash2]

@NurdRage Adding more layers of steel wool and zinc would increase the amps, the volts or both?

Ps.: Galvanized (zinc plated) steel sheets can be used too?

[spiff873]

@EMDSD40LocoDash2 adding more of the metals would tend to increase amperage, but not voltage, so long as the components were acting as a single cell.

[spiff873]

@EMDSD40LocoDash2 I might add, the huge surface area of the steel wool is probably much more than adequate for the task. To deliver more current, I suspect more zinc (or a form with with greater surface area) and/or a freer flow of oxygen would be the best approach.

[Blauwable]

I still have a big scar from Sodium Hydroxide:< Nasty stuff.

[reanimeviewed]

Wrote a report on Metal Air batteries for my 3rd year project, last year. They have so much potential, its really to bad that more companies aren't focusing on them for things like electric cars.

[N1ghtStalkerNL]

how long does this batetry last?

[98JMA]

Could any metal that does not react with NaOH to produce the metal complexes be used??