I own an Ontario SP10. I bought the knife b/c of its batoning capabilities. I'm a little surprised nutn continued to defend his position. I agree with you. Putting on a convex edge helps with edge strength and retention on hollow ground knives, actually on any knife...convex edge only limits fine slicing somewhat...something you don't want in a batoning tool. Very good point you made. Thanks for speaking up.
I own an Ontario SP10. I bought the knife b/c of its batoning capabilities. I'm a little surprised nutn continued to defend his position. I agree with you. Puttingon a convex edge helps with edge strength and retention on hollow ground knives, actually on any knife...convex edge only limits fine slicing somewhat...something you don't want in a batoning tool. Very good point you made. Thanks for speaking up.
I saw your vid, then when I went camping, and when using my ka-bar I saw that one side would have all of the flat part resting on the wood, so you have the wider angle, but more of the blade is in contact with the wood, so more friction.
Your logic makes sense to me. The real world test would be with a real log in the winter as nutnfancy stated. I saw the video where the A1 was used and it appeared it was more effective.
The A1 is an outstanding blade for sure, as my videos show, and I do love it. Your reasoning on the grind and angle of presentation are interesting and makes sense. However in my experience that flat portion of the blade can get stuck into cold, frozen moisture-laden logs. When when winter rolls around I will demo this... a full flat grind has the same when effect you show but minimizes friction. Also a real test for batoning will be a tough ole log...the wood you have it too easily split.
I own an Ontario SP10. I bought the knife b/c of its batoning capabilities. I'm a little surprised nutn continued to defend his position. I agree with you. Putting on a convex edge helps with edge strength and retention on hollow ground knives, actually on any knife...convex edge only limits fine slicing somewhat...something you don't want in a batoning tool. Very good point you made. Thanks for speaking up.
wmdrtr 1 year ago
I own an Ontario SP10. I bought the knife b/c of its batoning capabilities. I'm a little surprised nutn continued to defend his position. I agree with you. Puttingon a convex edge helps with edge strength and retention on hollow ground knives, actually on any knife...convex edge only limits fine slicing somewhat...something you don't want in a batoning tool. Very good point you made. Thanks for speaking up.
wmdrtr 1 year ago
but a flat grind takes less force because of the shape
nodnarbian 1 year ago
I saw your vid, then when I went camping, and when using my ka-bar I saw that one side would have all of the flat part resting on the wood, so you have the wider angle, but more of the blade is in contact with the wood, so more friction.
hogielove 2 years ago
Your logic makes sense to me. The real world test would be with a real log in the winter as nutnfancy stated. I saw the video where the A1 was used and it appeared it was more effective.
EDBPVIDEO 3 years ago
your very right
chrissept21 3 years ago
The A1 is an outstanding blade for sure, as my videos show, and I do love it. Your reasoning on the grind and angle of presentation are interesting and makes sense. However in my experience that flat portion of the blade can get stuck into cold, frozen moisture-laden logs. When when winter rolls around I will demo this... a full flat grind has the same when effect you show but minimizes friction. Also a real test for batoning will be a tough ole log...the wood you have it too easily split.
nutnfancy 3 years ago
Yeah, totally agree on my test subject, I mainly wanted to illustrate the idea - definitely need to try it on some harder wood.
Thanks for your reply!
Andrelommech 3 years ago