This is a little too mean to those living in preindustrial times. They didn't have anylitographs or mass spectrometers. The fact that wood was heavy and burnt WAS empirical evidence that it contained Fire and earth. They would say "Look! I can see it there with my own two eyes! What more evidence do you need!" This is why the idea of the 4 elements lasted so long: It made sense!
@charleshoskinson Science went through this exact same process on Earth, people didnt just go from thinking the world is flat to a total grasp of modern physics. Comparing this woman to some modern fundamentalist is so hopelessly stupid I cant even begin to feel sorry for you. Congratulations, you missed the point entirely.
@otherjr Actually I didn't. She was unrelenting in her belief and wasn't willing to consider outside possibilities. Sounds like a book burning Alaskan if I ever knew one.
@charleshoskinson She was unrelenting in her belief because this would sound ridiculous to her. Data is explaining science to her that would take hundreds of years to develop on her world, and hes just some nut that wondered out of the mountains. If someone started explaining how to travel faster than light to a modern day science teacher, im pretty sure you'd get the same result.
@otherjr I do not believe that is correct. I believe you are reasoning by analogy. A modern science teacher would have the skills inherent to science, that being the ability to take a suggested theory and make a reliable test to prove or disprove it and to show their results.
@Rhysesmum If you stumbled into some town with no memory of who you are, then told a science teacher how actually its possible to move faster than light, you think the teacher would go to the great lengths necessary to prove or disprove you?! After just one sentence from a total nobody? You carry out that experiment, then report back to me. After seeing that Data is actually pretty brilliant, this woman does start agreeing, but she wouldnt just do so straight away.
@otherjr I was using the lines from the video to comedic effect but I do think that a 'modern science teacher' as you said, would have the tools to at least listen and not just brush Data off. This episode is one the best TNG and I really like Data as a character.
@planetary109 well, the Jesuits believe in evolution, the big bang, etc. but this woman definitely reminds me of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman et al. ((roll eyes)) @ fundamentalists :-)
Fire may not be in wood, but one of the four elements, water, IS in it. The teacher isn't wrong here, Data misunderstood, and the teacher responded foolishly.
@capsule56 The fact that water is in wood is a lucky coincidence for the teacher, and none of the other " four elements" are in it, so she is very wrong.
But you only need one, If you REALLY wanna get technical, wood is because of two of the four elements. Soil, and water. REALLY REALLY technical, it needs CO2, which is part of air, so it needs 3 of the elements.
@capsule56 "contains" and "needs / results in" are not the same. If you really want to get technical, none of air, water, earth or fire are elements at all.
Damn you youtube, i wanted to avoid Star Trek because it got some major issues i cant overlook, but all this religion-bashing i see here makes me wonder if i shouldnt start watching it :<
Fairly inaccurate, as she isn't talking religion. She's talking philosophy. It's obviously meant to be reminiscent of ancient Greek philosophy. Although flawed, such ideas would set the stage for science.
@wight1984 I was not saying it was. The other dude was the one talking about it. And i was just saying to not bring religion into this. Because all talking about religion on youtube does is start fights. And the fact that this had nothing to be with religion of any kind lol
@peronkop There's actually a difference in the way certain memories are stored in the human brain. Probably the same for Data, except maybe even more compartmentalized.
@snackman94 That sounds like something that a person lacking in rock and wood would say. Your fire and wind and metal elementals are imbalanced. You need help. Here, take this cocaine. You need to snort it. That's it.. just keep snorting it.. soon you will pass out. There ya go.. Goooood...
@jimbopumbapigsticks its not his fault, he lost his memory, at least the parts about being an android and from the 24th century, and another world...but somehow keeps much of his knowledge. little weird but lets go with it.
@jimbopumbapigsticks He wasnt aware of the prime directive or even of the federation and space travel during most of that episode. Amnesia. You know, the old fritzy android gag!
@jimbopumbapigsticks But of course knowledge like that which he was using during the clip is probably stored permanently in a hard-drive of some kind, and was never learned by him, he just knows it. The amnesia made him forget everything since he was created. Anyway, I'm showing my geekiness too much, I'm gonna walk away now...
@k1llk1ngph30n1x It's like amnesia. You don't forget who the president is or how to read. It doesn't affect that portion of the brain. Undoubtedly, that portion of Data's positronic net wasn't damaged.
@jimbopumbapigsticks A superb being made of the most advanced cybertronic technology in the world is already straner in a remote village on a technologically primitive world. I think the Prime Directive got thrown out the window long before this.
"I know I have lost most of my memories, but I know for a fact that fire is not an element."
If he means the 3 elements (solid, liquid, gas) then I both agree and beg to differ. While fire is not a state of matter, it does represent a SUPPOSED 4th matter: Plasma.
@team10leader Elements are carbon, hydrogen, copper, etc. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma are states of matter NOT elements. Elements meant Earth, Water, Air, and Fire in ancient Greece but that was the result of pure ignorance so Data is correct.
@sondano My bad entirely! I was just saying that I think "the four elements" were inspired by the 3 states of matter (solid liquid and gas) plus the additional one that people SUPPOSE is a state of matter (plasma).
@team10leader it is not supposed, it is fact. In fact there are over 9 states of matter, not just 3. They include Bose-Einstein Condensates, Fermionic Condensates, Superfluids, Quark-gluon Plasma, degenerate matter, and the 4 common states, Plasma, gas, solid, and liquid. Stars are made up of Plasma and its the most abundant states, so no it is not just a supposed concept.
@Anthonyk312 Respectively: You're quite welcome, and, tell me about it. Though I have a feeling manners (such as your basic magic words "Thank you" and "You're welcome") haven't gone out of style on Youtube as far as I can tell.
@team10leader So, what does team 10 do? You may not be a "Data" but Humility is a sure sign of a leader... oh and having leader in your title doesn't hurt either.
Having a PhD from an unaccredited university is nearly useless. A PhD in general demonstrates exceptional knowledge in the field in which is was granted, but not fields outside of that specialization. So a PhD in applied theology from an unaccredited university means that you have no business talking biology at any level above high school. So if the university is accredited, and their PhD is pertinent to the discussion, there is a high probability that they are right. Unless they're a liar.
@TheNamelessCharacter Ah, but some intelligent lifeform did create you! Deny this and you deny yourself as an intelligent lifeform and make all the 'Your mother is so...' jokes totally invalid.
Of course there is `fire` in wood, and actually everything, yes. Matter goes to zero mass at absolute zero. ;-) SPECIALLY in living cells, dont you say you "burn" food for energy? Your metabolism "buuuurns" sugars for ATP.... The map is not the territory.
@trickyoutrickme if you listen carefully they are both right.. infact.. they are kinda saying the same thing.. she explains fire is already in the wood.. which is right when you go deep enough.. data pretty much says the same thing only that he dosent view the matter deep within as the definiton of "fire" yet
Natural magnets are created by numerous single filled electron orbitals all of which all have the same electron spin. Artificial magnetic fields are created by a coiled electric current. :)
The metal has unfilled electrion orbitals which gives it a diamagnetic abiltiy, i.e. being able to create a magnetic field. Paramagnetic materials can also create a magnetic field but they need to be exposed to an external magnetic field first.
@DaytonaRoadster BOY HAVE YOU GOT IT WRONG!!! I'm Christian and I love Science. Science often supports faith. If the world was created by a big bang that doesn't mean that God didn't make the big bang happen. I consider science as more proof of God. Because the world being so complex implies thought and a plan rather than random occurance.
Well most atheist anger(and thus arguments) is directed more at radical fundamentalist christians. They do unfortunately start thinking of all christians that way, but that's just typical psychology(or well, stupidity)
I think you have to stretch this scene to direct it at Christians. The teacher doesn't even seem to be analogous to Christians. The inspiration for this scene seems to be Ancient Greek philosophical understanding of the universe; that's where we get our discussion of 'elements' from, not Christianity.
@wight1984 It's a pretty clear reference to small pockets of fundamentalist Christians who have 'faith' the world is 6000 years old and we are descendants of Adam and Eve. But it's a general weil but the obvious reference to 'faith' clearly lends itself to the Western concept of Christianity. Data is an atheist by default it seems.
If that was the intention, ancient Greek philosophy was a pretty silly way of illustrating it. Ancient philosophy may not have been as impressive as empirical science as we know it to do, but it wasn't dogmatic or unthinking; it was an attempt to understand the world via reason.
The teacher wasn't teaching from scripture either; there's very little in this scene that really relates to fundamentalist Christianity.
You should follow the thread before you make comments. I was replying to Water4Jeremiah who was explicitly talking about this scene being a reference to fundamentalist Christianity. If you read my comment through, you'll see that I state rather clearly that I think the inspiration is ancient philosophy, not Christian fundamentalism.
@Water4Jeremiah Dude this has nothing to do with Christianity. They are speaking of Greek philosophy like that other person was talking about. You are clearly seeing things that are not there lol.
yes its ok to kill non christians and no need to worry about them or muslims but we have to get angry when a christian in killed or when a jew flattens a home with a muslim mother or baby is inside! its the chritian thing to do!
This is probably my favorite episode, Mr. Radioactive! It amazes me how sometimes the "recommended for you" videos can be so far off, and sometimes give me stuff like this :D
even if i created God (which i not), creationist is still wrongly interpreted, because you're trying to say that fanaticism or fanatics who believe in God (that is what most scientists think of believers) who only think about what there church leaders say, and too much scientists believe in teories that are not verified with the truth.
i am a person that seeks the complete truth with real examples based on real life, and to me teories are only a posible truth, not the provable truth.
What's funny about this, is that it is exactly the same as 90% of conversations with Republican Evangelicals and Islam followers etc... on a whole host of topics.
Its because both parties are not able and will no be able to see the details of correct interpretation and empirical reserch on a truth basis instead of using there own misleading ideas.
@hunoatila Both parties? There may well be people who vote Democratic in N America who believe irrational things but in the western* world I have never seen a party like the Republicans, who happily subscribe to policy positions based on irrational means.
*A country that is industrialised and has the vast majority of its population living out of poverty and in Cities that has $15K> GDP per cap.
The question is not how does one precieve another but how one's own self precieves each.
If science in some way dissproves religion and that either turns you away from science or your religion than I feel sorry for you. One must remember that most religious texts weren't written to convey anything but religion, and sciencetific text to convey science.
Personally for me science enriches how awesome the creator is. It allows
pre industrial my ass, that shit is pre-enlightenment, pre-scientific revolution.
325982668 1 month ago 2
A part of this has been cut out. His last word. ".......none of which is fire Bitch"
ProperMuzik 1 month ago 3
What does faith have anything to do with Science?
EdBoonSucks 2 months ago
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EdBoonSucks 2 months ago
poor data ;_;
mekkabon 2 months ago
(jesuit priests that is)
neutrino78x 2 months ago
Old Bitch
BatusaiJack 2 months ago
just like a philosophy professor.
AEVautomatic 2 months ago
This is a prime example a zealot - A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
ekgjwejfopjp 3 months ago
@ekgjwejfopjp Its perfect example of a bad actor.
llamapi3 2 months ago
Her mind was so closed that she was unable to even consider the possibility that her understanding of the world may be flawed.
ekgjwejfopjp 3 months ago
00:50 Bitch what?
Taospark 3 months ago
you'd get the exact same conversation if that woman had been replaced with Michele Bachman
dalengineer 3 months ago 3
the gri was acting like data commeted a crime
ravenvampier244 3 months ago
This is a little too mean to those living in preindustrial times. They didn't have anylitographs or mass spectrometers. The fact that wood was heavy and burnt WAS empirical evidence that it contained Fire and earth. They would say "Look! I can see it there with my own two eyes! What more evidence do you need!" This is why the idea of the 4 elements lasted so long: It made sense!
Anthonyk312 3 months ago 2
That woman acts like Data just committed Heresy!
Jumpybeaver 3 months ago
SCREW SCIENCE I HAVE ANALOGIES
lendial 3 months ago
We have a Sarah Palin!
charleshoskinson 3 months ago 32
@charleshoskinson Science went through this exact same process on Earth, people didnt just go from thinking the world is flat to a total grasp of modern physics. Comparing this woman to some modern fundamentalist is so hopelessly stupid I cant even begin to feel sorry for you. Congratulations, you missed the point entirely.
otherjr 2 months ago
@otherjr Actually I didn't. She was unrelenting in her belief and wasn't willing to consider outside possibilities. Sounds like a book burning Alaskan if I ever knew one.
charleshoskinson 1 month ago
@charleshoskinson She was unrelenting in her belief because this would sound ridiculous to her. Data is explaining science to her that would take hundreds of years to develop on her world, and hes just some nut that wondered out of the mountains. If someone started explaining how to travel faster than light to a modern day science teacher, im pretty sure you'd get the same result.
otherjr 1 month ago
@otherjr I do not believe that is correct. I believe you are reasoning by analogy. A modern science teacher would have the skills inherent to science, that being the ability to take a suggested theory and make a reliable test to prove or disprove it and to show their results.
Rhysesmum 2 weeks ago
@Rhysesmum If you stumbled into some town with no memory of who you are, then told a science teacher how actually its possible to move faster than light, you think the teacher would go to the great lengths necessary to prove or disprove you?! After just one sentence from a total nobody? You carry out that experiment, then report back to me. After seeing that Data is actually pretty brilliant, this woman does start agreeing, but she wouldnt just do so straight away.
otherjr 2 weeks ago
@otherjr I was using the lines from the video to comedic effect but I do think that a 'modern science teacher' as you said, would have the tools to at least listen and not just brush Data off. This episode is one the best TNG and I really like Data as a character.
Rhysesmum 2 weeks ago
@charleshoskinson
That is short sighted. Prove the she said anything remotely like this
papermermaid 1 month ago
Damn creationists! =)
mawriz 4 months ago 2
The Walton children never spoke back like that.
fjccommish 5 months ago
She reminds me of every Priest I've met.
planetary109 5 months ago 39
@planetary109 I think she's hot!
Chiellemoos 3 months ago
@Chiellemoos Visit your local doctor to have your genetic hormones checked. O.O
planetary109 3 months ago
@planetary109 You haven't met them all.
LordHannigan 2 months ago
@planetary109 well, the Jesuits believe in evolution, the big bang, etc. but this woman definitely reminds me of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman et al. ((roll eyes)) @ fundamentalists :-)
neutrino78x 2 months ago
@planetary109 So she doesn't remind you of anyone?
acev1per 1 month ago
She maks just ass much sense as Corabeth Godsie from the Waltons
parhodes100 5 months ago
What an idiot that woman was. How could humanity have ever been so ignorant as these people? Then again,many still are today. :P
If we left it to the church we would still be burning people for contradicting the word of "God".
TheBlackIdentety 5 months ago
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TheBlackIdentety 5 months ago
Jayden? I thought he was Data
victoriadocus 5 months ago
Fire may not be in wood, but one of the four elements, water, IS in it. The teacher isn't wrong here, Data misunderstood, and the teacher responded foolishly.
capsule56 6 months ago
@capsule56 were you any other man I would kill you where you stand!
BlueTeamPlayer 5 months ago
@capsule56 The fact that water is in wood is a lucky coincidence for the teacher, and none of the other " four elements" are in it, so she is very wrong.
tml4873 5 months ago
@tml4873
But you only need one, If you REALLY wanna get technical, wood is because of two of the four elements. Soil, and water. REALLY REALLY technical, it needs CO2, which is part of air, so it needs 3 of the elements.
capsule56 5 months ago
@capsule56 "contains" and "needs / results in" are not the same. If you really want to get technical, none of air, water, earth or fire are elements at all.
tml4873 5 months ago
teachers vs star trek!!
nerfwarrior6349 6 months ago
Yet in "The Outrageous Okana", Data says fish are amphibians...
...well, the writing in that episode was pure shit even by Enterprise standards...
NotQuiteRight 6 months ago
hey! It looks like how sunday schools....! wait a minute.... :\
clinicalpsychologist 6 months ago
Data, you should know fire is in wood.
bebop7c2 6 months ago
star trek vs teachers who will win?
nerfwarrior6349 6 months ago 2
A typical creationist class.
billyboyjennings 6 months ago
bash alchemy all you want but without alchemists playing around in the dark ages we wouldn't have the science we have today
PMW3 7 months ago
This episode is so good.
ltdowney 7 months ago
most of the people today, friends, family, the boss, etc, are like her. bitch and think they know it all. data, I wish u killed them all
clinicalpsychologist 7 months ago
Damn you youtube, i wanted to avoid Star Trek because it got some major issues i cant overlook, but all this religion-bashing i see here makes me wonder if i shouldnt start watching it :<
Kasseenzettel 7 months ago
This episode always makes me laugh. It's not bad, but I know someone called Jaiden, and he's far from intellectual. XD
mushroomshrub 8 months ago
shes like STFU JAYDEN
TheBazooie 8 months ago
darn you Aristotle!
SunnySideUp2213 8 months ago
data is the atheist trying to talk since into the religious nutcase
NizzBomb69 8 months ago
@NizzBomb69 Don't bring religion into this lol. It just bums everyone out and makes things boring lol.
CalebNelson64 8 months ago
@CalebNelson64
Fairly inaccurate, as she isn't talking religion. She's talking philosophy. It's obviously meant to be reminiscent of ancient Greek philosophy. Although flawed, such ideas would set the stage for science.
wight1984 8 months ago
@wight1984 I was not saying it was. The other dude was the one talking about it. And i was just saying to not bring religion into this. Because all talking about religion on youtube does is start fights. And the fact that this had nothing to be with religion of any kind lol
CalebNelson64 8 months ago
Fucking creatards - can never get a word in with them.
Phelan666 9 months ago
@Phelan666
Angry Atheist strikes again.
saquist 9 months ago
Data has certainly outsmarted his pre-industrial teacher! Even though Data has lost his memory, he hasn't lost his intellect!
snackman94 9 months ago 19
@snackman94 If he lost his memory then he should have lost that information.
peronkop 5 months ago
@peronkop There's actually a difference in the way certain memories are stored in the human brain. Probably the same for Data, except maybe even more compartmentalized.
TaintedMustard 4 months ago
@snackman94 That sounds like something that a person lacking in rock and wood would say. Your fire and wind and metal elementals are imbalanced. You need help. Here, take this cocaine. You need to snort it. That's it.. just keep snorting it.. soon you will pass out. There ya go.. Goooood...
katsumorymoto 5 months ago
Data driving a horse and cart through the Prime Directive once again.
jimbopumbapigsticks 9 months ago 68
@jimbopumbapigsticks its not his fault, he lost his memory, at least the parts about being an android and from the 24th century, and another world...but somehow keeps much of his knowledge. little weird but lets go with it.
tuseroni 9 months ago
@tuseroni Well, he still is in the 24th century. These people are just far behind.
LaSenoritaManzana 6 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks He wasnt aware of the prime directive or even of the federation and space travel during most of that episode. Amnesia. You know, the old fritzy android gag!
k1llk1ngph30n1x 6 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks But of course knowledge like that which he was using during the clip is probably stored permanently in a hard-drive of some kind, and was never learned by him, he just knows it. The amnesia made him forget everything since he was created. Anyway, I'm showing my geekiness too much, I'm gonna walk away now...
k1llk1ngph30n1x 6 months ago 2
@k1llk1ngph30n1x It's like amnesia. You don't forget who the president is or how to read. It doesn't affect that portion of the brain. Undoubtedly, that portion of Data's positronic net wasn't damaged.
heymrk 6 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks He lost his memory, so he didn't have any knowledge of the prime directive.
tml4873 5 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks true, but in that episode he had no memory of who or what he was, so i think we can just give him a warning.
MrWooaa 5 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks A superb being made of the most advanced cybertronic technology in the world is already straner in a remote village on a technologically primitive world. I think the Prime Directive got thrown out the window long before this.
MrMegaUber 5 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks He'd make a fine Starfleet captain.
randomface54 4 months ago 2
@jimbopumbapigsticks lol, well, to be fair, he didn't know anything about himself, personally.
TaintedMustard 4 months ago
Magnetically charged chunks of metal, by what means do they function?
Anthonyk312 10 months ago 3
@Anthonyk312 WITCHCRAFT!!
Jumpybeaver 3 months ago
"I know I have lost most of my memories, but I know for a fact that fire is not an element."
If he means the 3 elements (solid, liquid, gas) then I both agree and beg to differ. While fire is not a state of matter, it does represent a SUPPOSED 4th matter: Plasma.
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sondano 10 months ago
@team10leader Elements are carbon, hydrogen, copper, etc. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma are states of matter NOT elements. Elements meant Earth, Water, Air, and Fire in ancient Greece but that was the result of pure ignorance so Data is correct.
sondano 10 months ago
@sondano My bad entirely! I was just saying that I think "the four elements" were inspired by the 3 states of matter (solid liquid and gas) plus the additional one that people SUPPOSE is a state of matter (plasma).
team10leader 10 months ago
@team10leader it is not supposed, it is fact. In fact there are over 9 states of matter, not just 3. They include Bose-Einstein Condensates, Fermionic Condensates, Superfluids, Quark-gluon Plasma, degenerate matter, and the 4 common states, Plasma, gas, solid, and liquid. Stars are made up of Plasma and its the most abundant states, so no it is not just a supposed concept.
Anthonyk312 10 months ago
@Anthonyk312 I was just being careful when I said SUPPOSED. I can't afford to sound like a know-it-all, you know?
You truly have a knack for science.
team10leader 10 months ago
@team10leader Why thank you. Compliments are rare on youtube comments.
Anthonyk312 10 months ago
@Anthonyk312 Respectively: You're quite welcome, and, tell me about it. Though I have a feeling manners (such as your basic magic words "Thank you" and "You're welcome") haven't gone out of style on Youtube as far as I can tell.
team10leader 9 months ago
@team10leader So, what does team 10 do? You may not be a "Data" but Humility is a sure sign of a leader... oh and having leader in your title doesn't hurt either.
XD
You're welcome.
I mean that literally, come on by anytime.
;P
nazaxprime 9 months ago
@Anthonyk312 I think the key here is humility, not just compliments... I sure am glad you said "over 9.000"!
Sry, I just gotta bring us down a notch.
;)
Ok, now back to Schrödinger...
nazaxprime 9 months ago
Having a PhD from an unaccredited university is nearly useless. A PhD in general demonstrates exceptional knowledge in the field in which is was granted, but not fields outside of that specialization. So a PhD in applied theology from an unaccredited university means that you have no business talking biology at any level above high school. So if the university is accredited, and their PhD is pertinent to the discussion, there is a high probability that they are right. Unless they're a liar.
trekgeek1 11 months ago
her element speech actually makes sense
IIIIandrew 11 months ago
@IIIIandrew no it doesnt
IIIIandrew 11 months ago
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IIIIandrew 11 months ago
@IIIIandrew yes it does
IIIIandrew 11 months ago
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@IIIIandrew does not
IIIIandrew 11 months ago
@DJTripleThreat78 -tries really hard to not lecture about inductors and their relationship to magnets-
dashwarts 11 months ago
@dashwarts lol
DJTripleThreat78 10 months ago
I'm a computer. Stop all the downloadin'
trisky1234 1 year ago 2
@trisky1234 classic :)
DJTripleThreat78 10 months ago
Fire is not IN wood. Idiots.
Fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products.
The "fire" you see is the heat and light energy created by the rapid oxidation of, in this case, wood in the process of combustion.
Therefore, fire is not in wood. Fire is pure energy.
Fuck 12 year olds.
5loi 1 year ago 3
Data = Me
Teacher = Creationist I'm arguing with.
TheNamelessCharacter 1 year ago 16
@TheNamelessCharacter
lol dude, there are many creationists who are Phd's. don't be a numbskull.
PoisonousFish13D 11 months ago
@PoisonousFish13D Some of them might have legitimate PhD's, does that mean they are automatically correct scientifically on any topic they talk about?
I can say this with a degree of confidence, having a PhD doesn't make someone instantly infallible.
TheNamelessCharacter 11 months ago
@TheNamelessCharacter Yup...having a degree hanging on the wall doesn't imply they are smarter just more versed in BS than the guy who doesn't.
eyeofbast 11 months ago
@TheNamelessCharacter and I bet you're the one that started the arguement huh?
iDjGio 6 months ago
@TheNamelessCharacter Not really, since she's not speaking about Creationism or any sort of higher being.
ElTee842 5 months ago
@ElTee842 i believe it's called a metaphor.
thammerle89 5 months ago
@TheNamelessCharacter Ah, but some intelligent lifeform did create you! Deny this and you deny yourself as an intelligent lifeform and make all the 'Your mother is so...' jokes totally invalid.
crazy8sdrums 5 months ago
@crazy8sdrums Some life form did make me. Through a natural process.
My mother did not make me by simply clicking her fingers and saying "Abra-cadabra!"
TheNamelessCharacter 5 months ago
@TheNamelessCharacter and empirical evidence to corroborate this ASSumption?
laxguy22655 5 months ago
Now you know, how I feel when I’m around “average Joes”… :/
Evi1M4chine 1 year ago
Of course there is `fire` in wood, and actually everything, yes. Matter goes to zero mass at absolute zero. ;-) SPECIALLY in living cells, dont you say you "burn" food for energy? Your metabolism "buuuurns" sugars for ATP.... The map is not the territory.
trickyoutrickme 1 year ago
@trickyoutrickme
Wat
Bitemis 1 year ago
@trickyoutrickme if you listen carefully they are both right.. infact.. they are kinda saying the same thing.. she explains fire is already in the wood.. which is right when you go deep enough.. data pretty much says the same thing only that he dosent view the matter deep within as the definiton of "fire" yet
Xirus5 1 year ago
@Xirus5 [slap ]
ivionday 1 year ago
@trickyoutrickme
Fire is a type of reaction. It does not exist in wood but can happen to wood under certain circumstances.
wight1984 8 months ago
This scene is EPIC I tell you
danwat1234 1 year ago
the 4 elements idea was obtained through intelligent means. Its just the difference between alchemy and chemistry
magustx 1 year ago
Data is the coolest
DarkTowerTube 1 year ago 3
I love Data
jrash2000 1 year ago
fucking magnets! how do they work?
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@DJTripleThreat78
Natural magnets are created by numerous single filled electron orbitals all of which all have the same electron spin. Artificial magnetic fields are created by a coiled electric current. :)
calvinist100 1 year ago
@calvinist100 it was a joke.
Anthonyk312 10 months ago
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calvinist100 1 year ago
@DJTripleThreat78
By the electrron's lining up
Nevgaz 10 months ago
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@DJTripleThreat78
By the electrron's lining up
Nevgaz 10 months ago
@DJTripleThreat78
The metal has unfilled electrion orbitals which gives it a diamagnetic abiltiy, i.e. being able to create a magnetic field. Paramagnetic materials can also create a magnetic field but they need to be exposed to an external magnetic field first.
xbox644 7 months ago
@xbox644
what about silver as it act ambigous towards a magnetic force?
inachu 7 months ago
Damn it Data...dont Science at the Christians!!
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago 7
@DaytonaRoadster I'm pretty sure Christians don't believe that today.
terminat1 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster BOY HAVE YOU GOT IT WRONG!!! I'm Christian and I love Science. Science often supports faith. If the world was created by a big bang that doesn't mean that God didn't make the big bang happen. I consider science as more proof of God. Because the world being so complex implies thought and a plan rather than random occurance.
Miracle490d 1 year ago
@Miracle490d uh huh
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
@Miracle490d
Well most atheist anger(and thus arguments) is directed more at radical fundamentalist christians. They do unfortunately start thinking of all christians that way, but that's just typical psychology(or well, stupidity)
waldoman7 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster
I think you have to stretch this scene to direct it at Christians. The teacher doesn't even seem to be analogous to Christians. The inspiration for this scene seems to be Ancient Greek philosophical understanding of the universe; that's where we get our discussion of 'elements' from, not Christianity.
wight1984 8 months ago
@wight1984 It's a pretty clear reference to small pockets of fundamentalist Christians who have 'faith' the world is 6000 years old and we are descendants of Adam and Eve. But it's a general weil but the obvious reference to 'faith' clearly lends itself to the Western concept of Christianity. Data is an atheist by default it seems.
Water4Jeremiah 8 months ago
@Water4Jeremiah
If that was the intention, ancient Greek philosophy was a pretty silly way of illustrating it. Ancient philosophy may not have been as impressive as empirical science as we know it to do, but it wasn't dogmatic or unthinking; it was an attempt to understand the world via reason.
The teacher wasn't teaching from scripture either; there's very little in this scene that really relates to fundamentalist Christianity.
wight1984 8 months ago
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CalebNelson64 8 months ago
@CalebNelson64
You should follow the thread before you make comments. I was replying to Water4Jeremiah who was explicitly talking about this scene being a reference to fundamentalist Christianity. If you read my comment through, you'll see that I state rather clearly that I think the inspiration is ancient philosophy, not Christian fundamentalism.
wight1984 8 months ago
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@Water4Jeremiah Dude this has nothing to do with Christianity. They are speaking of Greek philosophy like that other person was talking about. You are clearly seeing things that are not there lol.
CalebNelson64 8 months ago
@Water4Jeremiah well data is made up of pure logic and logic would indicate no existence of a god
ralphy329 7 months ago
@ralphy329 *whispers* I agree, but just don't go telling that to people who aren't as accepting of rational arguments.
Water4Jeremiah 7 months ago
@Water4Jeremiah you mean 90% of every religious person?
ralphy329 7 months ago
@ralphy329 100%
Water4Jeremiah 7 months ago
@wight1984 odviously, however its a well know fact of fundementalist christians hatered for science and reason
DaytonaRoadster 8 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster
yes its ok to kill non christians and no need to worry about them or muslims but we have to get angry when a christian in killed or when a jew flattens a home with a muslim mother or baby is inside! its the chritian thing to do!
inachu 7 months ago
I can imagine this happening in Texas, right after creationism hour.
trekgeek1 1 year ago 5
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someguy001001 1 year ago
the hero of canton, the man they call Jayden
CaptTroll 1 year ago
Bitch just got learned!
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago 25
she sounds like a lunatic creationist....
emperorkang 1 year ago 7
wood is made from th e stuff in my pants giggity
tylerluvsallie 1 year ago
Christian science?
gaara2910 1 year ago 5
@gaara2910 Muslim science?
HK41586 1 year ago
Yeah! Fk you Jaden!
stimpp 1 year ago
What a bitch!
chefkoo 1 year ago
I've always loved the name Jayden. I wanted to name my kid that but hubby vetoed that name.
yfang3 1 year ago
Science for the win!
billyboyjennings 1 year ago 6
Science for the win!
billyboyjennings 1 year ago 3
This is probably my favorite episode, Mr. Radioactive! It amazes me how sometimes the "recommended for you" videos can be so far off, and sometimes give me stuff like this :D
silntdoogood 1 year ago
even if i created God (which i not), creationist is still wrongly interpreted, because you're trying to say that fanaticism or fanatics who believe in God (that is what most scientists think of believers) who only think about what there church leaders say, and too much scientists believe in teories that are not verified with the truth.
i am a person that seeks the complete truth with real examples based on real life, and to me teories are only a posible truth, not the provable truth.
hunoatila 1 year ago
his hair is made from dianas pubs..... gotta love data
IRONMAIDENFAN2006 1 year ago
I missed the point of this video.
CoasterCloud 1 year ago
like a scientist talking to a creationist.
manbearpig900 1 year ago 5
@manbearpig900
is not science what God created? or is it creationist wrongly interpreted?
hunoatila 1 year ago
@hunoatila Your god didn't create anything, you created him.
Chro801 1 year ago
data owned but got owned back :D
BarlytheDwarf 1 year ago
Fire is so an element! It's between "Tabasco" and "Teflon".
LordOfTheGnus 1 year ago 5
What's funny about this, is that it is exactly the same as 90% of conversations with Republican Evangelicals and Islam followers etc... on a whole host of topics.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@CmdrTobs
Its because both parties are not able and will no be able to see the details of correct interpretation and empirical reserch on a truth basis instead of using there own misleading ideas.
hunoatila 1 year ago
@hunoatila Both parties? There may well be people who vote Democratic in N America who believe irrational things but in the western* world I have never seen a party like the Republicans, who happily subscribe to policy positions based on irrational means.
*A country that is industrialised and has the vast majority of its population living out of poverty and in Cities that has $15K> GDP per cap.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
I'm starting to realize just how awesome this show was.
patricknelson 1 year ago 2
Lucky they didn't try blood letting on him.
pfiberoptik 1 year ago
lol this clip made me laugh cuz the teacher got schooled by our Data!
amazing he's lost his memory but is able to remember that bit of info! :P
ROSE911GUNDAM 1 year ago 6
@ROSE911GUNDAM Its quite a obvious deduction for a highly analytical unprejudiced mind.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@ROSE911GUNDAM
yes, way to go Data!
hunoatila 1 year ago
And this is Star Trek, we're here to watch Data pwn pre-industrial Classical Greek chemistry.
dagorlad3 1 year ago
The question is not how does one precieve another but how one's own self precieves each.
If science in some way dissproves religion and that either turns you away from science or your religion than I feel sorry for you. One must remember that most religious texts weren't written to convey anything but religion, and sciencetific text to convey science.
Personally for me science enriches how awesome the creator is. It allows