My search for the sabbath at the Vatican Jesuit University ~ Prof Samuele Bacchiocchi- part1

[N8Revolution]

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[broadaorb]

Listen to Walter Veith and Doug Batchelor. Bacchiocchi can be judged by his fruits. He continually tried to discredit Ellen White, the founder of the SDA church. He clearly was a Jesuit infiltrating the SDA church.

[justashorttime]

This man have so much love for the vatican, it truely shines out of his mouth and spirit. He is found on fotos in a jesuit suit. can any genuine believer in Christ listhen to this and trust this man!!!! Time is so short, and the road so narrow. Only the one who have love for the truth will also se the truth clearly!

[broadaorb]

@justashorttime Nope, don't trust him. He spent his time discrediting the founder of the SDA church.

[NicholasPOGM]

Samuel Bacciocchi is a proven ROman Catholic Jesuit. See his pictures and statement here... SDAapostasy(DOT)org/SDApix.htm start at pic #27. Also notice how this man prays in the video. Not onyl does he STAND in prayer, purposely denying the written Word of God. He uses the monotone method of prayer of the Vatican prelates to make his words appear holy. You would do well to remove this video. This man was not bearing the fruit of a Christian.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM you are totally wrong. How can you prove that? Did you hear Samuelle say that?

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings By their fruits you shall know them. PLUS I have pictures! Go to the page listed in my previous comment. You cannot get that "official robe of the Jesuit" without becoming one. I know, I was Roman Catholic for 29 years and I taught Catholic doctrine. My main site at RemnantofGod(DOT)org shares my credentials.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM Where is your picture? I cannot see it..

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings go to the link in my previous comment. Remove the (DOT) of course.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM Remember brother, Dr. Samuel Bachiocchi died as a faithful Seventh-day Adventist. You may clear your accusation against him. That is in contrary to his personal life and unfair to him.

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings No, he did not die SDA. His doctrinal statements in his books say otherwise. You need to research this out. The fact he wore Jesuit robe speaks volumes to this fact. But, if you choose to place the man above God and His truth, there is nothing any man can say to convince you.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM Why are you saying that he died not SDA? I have his last book "Popular Beliefs" and it is dedicated to SDA faith. His service was in the SDA church before he laid rest in his tomb. I have the program and the farewell words dedicated for him alone. It onlyy shows that your words now are in contrary to what he manifested.

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings The true "SDA" church is not in the present SDA church. On that website I give above I prove point by point that the present SDA church is not the same that started long ago. They created a "new organization" directly in opposition to God's Word. See the "Roman SDA" FLASH animation on that site and you will be shocked at the documentation coming from today's SDA church that are almost a perfect match of the Vatican church. Bacciochi helped bring this confusion on with his books.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM Now, it is clear to me. You're an offshoot. Mrs White warns against offshoots... :(

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings I was never SDA in my entire life. I used to be a devout Catholic. I can see your church embracing Catholicism easily because I was one. Your decision to ignore facts for your assumptions that I am an offshoot is a Roman Catholic fruit as well. I know, I've been exposing Catholics 26 years. You are using their methods here. See my main site at RemnantofGod(DOT) org.

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

God's people in the end times were married to Jesus on October 22nd 1844. This you can prove by going to Leviticus 26. The 2520 year prophecy was first discovered by William Miller in his studying of the Bible and if it were not for the 2520 there would be no 2300 day prophecy.

You cite quote after quote on your website but you refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with you.

Nowhere in the SOP does Mrs. White tell us to get out of the SDA church.

[NicholasPOGM]

@daro2096 lying is a sin. You need to repent. Not only does SOP say get out of the SDA church, (see SDAapostasy(DOT)org/egw-babylo­n(DOT)htm ) But Scripture does in thousands of places. If ignore the proven truth and stay in the SDA church, then you are considered "shaken out" of the true church of Christ. God's people FOLLOW HIM, not their religious leaders. Especially since they created a NEW ORGANIZATION, of which SOP specifically said NEVER TO DO! (See SDAapostasy(DOT)org/FLASH(DOT)­htm )

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

First you quote GC 29.1 and then say "The SDA preachers and pastors of today are echoing the exact same lies as they did in 70AD!"

Whilst that may be true(I wasn't there and neither were you) she doesn't tell us to get out of the organisation of the church. Using a parallel: in 31AD there was a change of leadership. There will be a change in our day. God's church can not become Babylon. There is no eighth church. When the Sunday law hits the leadership falls.

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

“I saw that God has honest children among the nominal Adventists and the fallen churches..."

Mrs White is talking about First-day Adventists not SDA's

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

You call me a liar but you are guilty of it yourself. By calling me a liar you condemn yourself. On your website you quoted you misquote Mrs. White by not quoting the whole paragraph.

Review and Herald August 1, 1893 par. 5. You only quoted the last half of it, why? "If they had had the light that many of the MEMBERS OF OUR CHURCHES have had, they might have advanced at a far greater rate, and have better represented their faith to the world."

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[daro2096]

Mrs. White is saying those SDA's who have had great light are not walking in it will suffer worse than those of Sodom. She is not saying because there are a few tares in the SDA church to get out.

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

Mar 203.2 "The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out-the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place."

Mar 203.3 "I know that the Lord loves his church. It is not to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms..

Mar 203.5 "We cannot now step off the foundation that God has estalished. We cannot now enter into any new organization..."

[daro2096]

1MR 358.2 "The Lord has not given you a message to call the Seventh-day Adventists Babylon, and to call the people of God to come out of her. All the reasons you may present cannot have weight with me on this subject; because the Lord has given me decided light that is opposed to such a message."

par 3 "I do not doubt your sincerity or honesty. I have written long letters at different times to those who were accusing the church of Seventh-day Adventists of being Babylon...not handling the truth"

[daro2096]

1MR 358.3 "You think individuals have prejudiced my mind. If I am in this state, I am not fitted to be entrusted with the work of God. But this matter has been brought before my mind in other cases where individuals have claimed to have messages for the Seventh-day Adventist church, of a similar character, and the word has been given me, "Believe them not" (Jeremiag 12:6). "I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran" Jeremiah 23:21)."

[daro2096]

In other words what Ellen White is saying here is if the SDA church becomes Babylon then I am a false prophet and God has not sent me. Isn't that what she is saying in 1MR 358.3?

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings I will no longer respond to your comments because you now show you're not serious about your walk with Christ as far as I discern. If you were, you would read what SOP says about the SDA church and what it will do AFTER she dies. It amazes me how many SDA's stopped reading her writings. They only "hear" what their pastor wants them to hear. That too is Roman Catholic in nature.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM Sorry to tell you that I have SOP here in my house. And I don't stop reading it. I don't wait for my pastor to read for me. I read it personally. It is up to you if you don't reply me anymore. As far as I discern you, you're in the wrong path. Don't accuse the SDA church of something not happening. It is the SDA that God will guide until the end of time, not stray offshoots. :(

[NicholasPOGM]

@2009GladTidings No, it is God's PEOPLE, not a denomination. This is my LAST response to you. Look on that SDA apostasy site I posted earlier.I have DOZENS of SOP quotes where Sister WHite does say the SDA church WILL become Babylon, as did Jesus in Matthew 20. If you REALLY want the truth, you'll check it out. If not, you will continue to try and insult me by calling me an offshoot. In any event I'M DONE here.

[2009GladTidings]

@NicholasPOGM The SDA Church is God's people, right? God's people is the church, right? The church (ekklesia) is a group of God's people, right? It is the church or God's people who will be guided by God until the end. Calling the SDA church as babylon is coming from babylon itself.

[daro2096]

@2009GladTidings

I noticed your argument with NicholasPOGM. One question: How do you prove the SDA church is end time Israel?

[daro2096]

@2009GladTidings

Actually he is right on this point. Bachiocchi went to a Jesuit uni. Wore Jesuit priest clothes(there are photos).

Also Jan Paulsen went to the same uni as the current Pope and some believe he is a Jesuit.

Nicholas is right in that there is apostasy in the SDA church but he is wrong that we should leave because after the SDA church there is no more churches. It is the seventh and final church. It is lukewarm and sleeping.

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[NicholasPOGM]

@daro2096 You ADMIT the church is IN APOSTASY yet stay in??? SOP says... "Concerning Babylon, the symbol of the *apostate church*, He says to His ministers of judgment, "Her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double." Rev. 18:5, 6. -Christ's Object Lessons 178.4 If APOSTASY is the fruit of BABYLON, why are you SDA?

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

The church leadership are in apostasy but the leadership are to be shaken out of the SDA church.

You can twist SOP quotes all you like. You have no SOP quote to tell you to get out of the SDA church and form your own offshoot and if you hate the SDA church so much then why do you use the SOP? The SOP is for Seventh-day Adventists only. She says the SDA church is Israel. She says SDA church can never become Babylon. She says the church appears to fall but doesn't.

[NicholasPOGM]

@daro2096 Where does it say "leaders" are only ones shaken out in the Bible? PLEASE SHARE! You only claim I twist because it hurts. understandable. I posted all SOP comments IN CONTEXT on both sites. Anyone that peers at those pages will now know, you'll use lies to win arguments. If you studied her writings (instead of the writings of your leaders) you'd know this. Since you see no wrong in using lies, you cannot be trusted any longer. Therefore, I must now BLOCK you. I forgive you.

[daro2096]

@NicholasPOGM

And now you prove what I wrote earlier. You don't like people disagreeing with you. I have the Ellen White complete writings with the writings of the pioneers on CD.

Well feel fine to block me Nicholas but you have no mandate from God on your "SDR" movement. You are not Israel.

[daro2096]

Ezekiel 37 talks about the dry bones. They are brought back to life by the prophecy of the four winds.

In Revelation 7 there are four angels holding back the wind. Ellen White says "Angels are holding back the four winds as an angry horse ready to be let loose on the world." That is a rough paraphrase. Look at the horses of Revelation 9. Our pioneers(fathers of the church) believed Islam fulfilled the prophecies of Revelation 9.

[broadaorb]

@2009GladTidings Pfft!