Jeremy Hunt tries justifying £18bn for 2 week Olympics (09Jan12)

[RiksFunStuff]

If they wanted more kids to get involved in sport they should have invested that £18bn into local lesuire centres instead of cutting the budget. It costs so much to use the courts these days kids quite simply can't afford or want to spend it something else.

[kennydee2008]

Who cares about the olympics, globalism at its worst.

[jameshedleyturner]

A toast to when the incredible over inflated bubble goes bang after the olympics! Deflation, personal wealth and investment all down the toilet! When will we see Keynesian economic go?

[pjstns]

Without a solid Economy Yes those will be white elephants. Bigots. How obout pink Elephants? SHit I em A Homo Phobee. Really Without a Solid Economy That has Solid Uses For the Bld's They Will Fall Empty and Silent when the Games Are Over.Unless You tear down Buildings and Switch The Use To the Newer Venue. That Can Be Done But As an Ex Cop Corruptions normally gets so bigg by then It can not Be HID.

[Jaoric]

Fucking joke.

[AnnoyedDragon]

The spin they are going to have to deploy to justify this waste of money.

[IlIJAYIlI]

18 billion to fund the olympic games and i cant even get a ticket! you can shove it where the sun doesnt shine! The good thing to happen will be the flocks of tourists expecting a real British holiday but they'll be soon shocked when they take a tour of the jungles in london!

[fatalist6o9]

@IlIJAYIlI Why the hell would you even want a ticket?

[IDontWantAChanneName]

£18bn = £260 for every man, woman and child in the U.K. Make of that what you will, but it's 5weeks of life support for people on the dole, just to put that into perspective.

[ukipwarrior]

@IDontWantAChanneName miser get behind the greatest event seen in Europe for a millenium!!

[MODTRASH]

More crap the Labour party forced upon us victims!

[englishhacksaw]

@MODTRASH

Labor?! Haha what the fuck are you smoking?!

[MODTRASH]

@englishhacksaw Michael Foot's ashes!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@MODTRASH The Tories didnt mind sabotaging 500 years worth of coal by pouring hardcore down the pits so no fucker ever got to mine them again.What makes you think they couldnt pull the plug on this too? Maybe a another fucking vanity project for cameron , then the diamond jubilee...How much will we generate then with your union jack merchandise all with "made in china" written on them.Uhhohoho ahahahahahah hawwr haawr.OH THE IRONY!!

[MODTRASH]

@SOCIALISTnetwork Stop living in the past!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@MODTRASH Says the man who would rather celebrate Monarchy in this day and age...Hmm Living in the past ? Really ? Uhhohoho ahahahaaha hawwr hawwr hgawwr

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork Coal is a finite resource, child. They ran out of economically viable coal. But of course you socialists being utterly economically illiterate would gladly spend £2000 a ton to mine coal that was only worth £200 a ton.

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Your idle and puerile slander is a very telling and gratifying trait.Lets just go along with your logic about price.Well surely it would make sound economics to a capitalist to atleast privatise the coal to outside investors like all our other assets rather than just filling the mines up with hardore so it can never be cost effective to mine again?..Go back to Wikipedia..Ooops shit you cannot tonight.Uohoho ho

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork Coal is a finite resource. You must accept that or look a fool. After hundreds of years of mining the coal we ran out of coal that was worth pursuing. Even a cursory glance at the production or reserve figures would tell you that my deluded friend. If it were worthwhile digging out of the ground people would be sinking new shafts to get the stuff. They are not.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork You, being an economically illiterate socialist, would have a state run coal industry expending more energy in digging up coal than the coal could give back. You cannot wish away the EROEI equation and pretend it doesn't exist.

Oh wait, I forgot! You're a socialist so you CAN wish it away! No doubt you expect magical unicorns to dig it out of the ground for free!

omgwtflol!!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 You are becoming a parody of yourself now.And willfully ignoring my point.If a foreign company offered to take it on for less which is what the Tories did with many other national assets then how would that be a problem ? Why pour a load of hardcore into a mine shaft along with all the machinery still down there? That was childish spite.And goes against even a Capitalist principle to throw away something that would one day make money again.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork It would not make money again. That's the point. When a mine is exhausted it gets abandoned. If you want to see abandoned 19th century mines go to Wales or Devon/Cornwall. Did the mean ol' tories shut them down too? lol

A mine that gets abandoned also doesn't get maintenance. What prevents mine supports giving way and causing subsidence under people's homes? Unicorns and socialist wishful thinking?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! You make me laugh.

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Again you have been at the Wikipedia Troff.My father in Law was a paramedic in the Noth East during the 80's.Those mines have 500 years worth of coal in them.They were filled with hardcore and they even left all the machinery down there. A total waste.If a mine is exausted then it is exausted but that was not the case in 1984.You are trying to defend the indefensible.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork A paramedic told you that there is 500 years worth of coal down those mines? A PARAMEDIC?

Bahahahahahaahah!!

500 years AT WHAT extraction level? I can make a bowl of cereal last 500 years at the right extraction level. AT WHAT cost in energy? You, being an economically illiterate socialist would expend two barrels of oil to pump one barrel of oil out of the ground.

If there was coal worth going for, we would be going for it.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork If there was so much coal left, why didn't Labour reopen the mines?

Ha! You socialists would have kept Victorian tin mines open long after the ore was exhausted. Neolithic flint mines would still be going if you socialists had your way!

"There's STILL 500 years worth of flint down there!"

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Socialists were not in power in the victorian times what the hell are you on about? You are just trying to grab on to anything now.Pathetic. The mines have been filled in with hardcore you cannot get to that coal anymore.We have an estimated 500 years worth of coal deposits left.And we never even hit peak.That's a scandal, to sabotage an industry in the name of right wing ideology.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork "Socialists were not in power in the victorian times" - Well Duh! That's why they were closed down! lol

UK coal production followed a classic Hubbert's curve. It grew until 1913 where it peaked at 300 million tons. Production then fell until it was below 50 mt when they were privatised in 1994. Do the research or remain in the dark.

Sabotage? Blame the left for NOT winding down the industry as production collapsed.

Coal is a finite resource, just like oil

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Yes but the consumption has not declined.! oh for gods sake you are just deliberatley splitting hairs.There is plenty of coal that has been wasted just out of spite and we are now worse off for it.You cannot defend that and are just making irrelevant points to hide this. "a classic huberts curb"please dont feign an education.You need to lay off the old google and wikipedia.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork "Yes but the consumption has not declined!"

So, because we are having to import coal from Germany to run our coal power stations ... that means there's plenty of coal in our old mines?!?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh my god! What a tool! Too precious! Too precious! Wish you could see the tears of laughter running down my face!

Hey, consumption of tin is at record highs so ... all the old Cornish tin mines must have tons of tin in them still!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Again mister speaker Omuffins decides to hide behind a lambaste of imbecilic laughter .I think he is one step from cutting his own fucking ear off. 500 years worth of coal nobody is talking about tin just you.500 years worth of coal and you think that's scraping the barrell and time to jack it in?..Wow heres a tip never share that anecdote to your bank manager when you ask for a loan to start up a business..he'd laugh harder than you just did.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork lol Anything can last 500 years at the right extraction rate. The question is, how much coal is there in tons, not years.

That's the same retarded argument pro-coal lobbyists use in the US. "There's 300 years supply of coal underground! Lets increase production ten fold!"

A clever mind will spot the fallacy in that statement. Can you spot it?

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Well the same can be said with oil then, North sea hits peak production do you shut it down?..Bit of joined up thinking muffins please.You cannot defend the situation that coal deposits are left in the ground..No not left, Sabotaged and made sure that it was economically un viable to dig through all that hardcore and machinery that was stuffed down the shafts.There was no need to do that, utter spite and cannot be defended.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork There's 500 years worth of economically viable coal down there ... because a PARAMEDIC told you so ... and there must be LOADS down there because there is still DEMAND for coal.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

When North Sea oil runs out you socialists would have the oil rigs still fully manned and slurping up sea water!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Explain again why 'hardcore' is any harder than rock to dig through to get to the coal?

BAHAHAHAHAHAAH! Too precious!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@0muffins0 Your just being childish and peurile now.You cannot defend it , you refuse to address or even challenge that the mines have been sabotaged. This whole thread of silly comebacks of yours should be held up as an illustration of what someone does when they hit a dead end. Just type a few" bahahaha's" Socialist this socialist that ,and maybe they wont notice that you have tried to steer away from the point.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork Oh, BS on the mines being "sabotaged". If there were economically viable coal still down there then wouldn't we have sunk new shafts to get it? Of course we would have. Did Labour re-open the old mines? No. Why? They ran out of viable coal.

The tories didn't close down the mines for the fun of it, or for the hatred of the working class. They ended the retarded state of affairs that kept uneconomic mines running for decades.

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork If they were still open today, 9 out of 10 miners would spend their days playing cards, while the tenth would be vacuuming up the last bits of coal dust from the deepest parts of the mines.

[bigmangiff]

@SOCIALISTnetwork socialism , here's an idea lets punish people who want to work!

[SOCIALISTnetwork]

@bigmangiff well I work so whats your point?

[0muffins0]

@SOCIALISTnetwork I guess the left would also keep all the oil rigs in the North Sea going even after the oil runs out.

[kcirdrab]

Utter waste of taxation

[eurocon]

The 2012 military industrial complex fundraser, big corporations stealing wealth from the nation.. and the people love it.

[ukipwarrior]

Tremendous event with plenty of inward investment Great Britain leading the way out of 2012. The cabinet will deliver!!

[GoodFightUploads]

I've said it before and i'll say it again. The Olympics has nothing to do with sport anymore, it's about business and profit making. They'll only ever improve a run down area of the country if they know they'll make a profit in the long run, just more greed, greed, and more fuckin' greed.

[cheeckybutnice]

You should see what they have done to the flats across from the Lea Valley white water centre.

Painted , new fences & astroturf grass all to hide the fact the area has been neglected for yrs.by local council.

[ZIGSVIDS]

we still use the facilities built for the Sydney games.all built on industrial wasteland.

[2010butchd]

atleast we get a pound back when its sold

[sinclair61]

@2010butchd you will get ZERO back. Don´t kid yourself.....unless that is you are a board member CEO/EVP for a major civil engineering-banking-retail cartel!(or a politician on the receiving end of large backhanders)