i still hate Alexander he was a total fag and didnt do hardly anything great even his father was more impressive i really hate historians that feed on the lies of Alexander and he tried to claim he was greater the Cyrus the Great what a joke Cyrus empire lasted for over 2000 years Alexander was a drunk idiot that was born at a lucky time and just followed his fathers battle plans more like his generals did and he drank and whored all day
Okay..Aleksander The Great is a Macedonian king.. or idk. Im 6th grade! and Macedonia is Not in Greece..Hello? A country in a country? I mean.. HELLO!? >.< His father Samoil was a Macedonian king.. He was the 3th kid in the family..And he killed his 2nd brother only to be the king..And the first brother i dont remember his name .. He died in a war.. So please..Be respectful! :)
For all those that don't understand hatred and foul language of certain peoples here, let me explain: During nationalistic projects of 19. century following french revolution many countries, small and big, began making their own "nation" and its myths in order to justify territorial expansion. The propaganda and ideological indoctrination resulted in these DUMB KIDS all over Balkan who fanatically bash other countries and raise its own to the sky. You see, 19. century never ended in Balkan.
When 2013 comes my friends then try say Macedonia is greece n alexander was grk i repeat say those exact words in 2013 n use will look like such fools with your ignorant ways ahaha
alexander wasnt a fuckin pagen, whats this cunt onabout..And..Alexandar is macedonian not greek! Christ was not born yet in that time, and the only religion or "beliefs" was that of what had been created. all forms of life believed in a sort of 'god' for somethig, then the overall 'king of the gods' who was zues, allah, rah etc. Now greece was more the area of which several citys where built. Macedonia was a city, athens,pela, etc and at that time, there was fewer languages created and spoken.
@Vacissitude Uhm.. I'm sorry, but are you fucking retarded? Greece was a great empire. And Alexander was greek. Do you really think Alexander the Great was a dirty communist? Let me put it this way: there are 2 macedonia. One is in Greece and the other is a made up country. Alexander was from the greek Macedonia. Greece was much larger than it is today, so the country Macedonia could not have been at the same place it is now. (I think)
@InforcedHellCrusader Mate you got no clue in life, that is simply it. not gona waste my time talking to a useless cunt, who reads books made by greeks. really thow, i dont give a fuck bout alexander, the fact nowadays greeks, maco's russians, serbs, bulgarians, polish etc are all orthodox christians, thats what counts mate, open your eyes. histories history!....(get it)
αντε ρε κολοφαρες ξυπνησατε και γινατε ολοι ελληνες,παλιομπασταρδεμενες χωρες του κλωτσου και του μπατσου,πεστε μας καποιον σημαντικο απτη χωρα σας και μετα θα σου πω εγω για γνωσεις και ιστορια.τι σχεση εχετε εσεις με την ελλαδα?αρχιδια ψευτομαγκες ολοι σας
One of the experts appearing in this National Geographic documentary, Andrew Chugg, presents some more videos on the tomb of Alexander the Great on the MacedonAlexander channel on Youtube.
How can macedonian language be greek??? the greek is greek the macedonian is macedonian!!! Our name has always been MACEDONIA. No one has asked the maceodnian people to change it's name, it's always been imposed by the "BIG WORLD FORCES", to sotisfy the EU'S pet --> greece.
@ivago06 Read the scripts then in the tomb of Phillip,you can?? it's all in Greek language in macedonian dialect.
Macedonians,Spartans,Athenians,Cretans,Thessalians,Epirotans etc all of them speaked Greek Language and called Greeks and their states was parts of Greece.Your language is slavic bulgarian and have nothing to do with alexander or ancient macedonia. You just invade macedonian lands and starting call yourself macedonians geografically but you are tatars ethnic.I am macedonian but u not
On this occasion, he [Alexander] made a very long speech to the Thessalians and the other Greeks, and when he saw that they encouraged him with shouts to lead them against the Barbarians, he shifted his lance into his left hand, and with his right appealed to the gods, as Callisthenes tells us, praying them, if he was really sprung from Zeus, to defend and strengthen the Greeks.
[Plutarch. Alexander (ed. Bernadotte Perrin) XXXIII]
"Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Greece, I should not have come to tell you; but I (Alexander I) am myself a Greek by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery" [Herodotus Book IX ,45,(Kalliopi)]
Recently it's been discovered a tomb in a ancient city called Pela near the border between Macedonia and Greece.The tomb it's been covered(closed) with enormous stone door.And inside it's assumed it's big over 100mq
I am deeply sorry for not wanting to accept the facts.MACEDONIA EXIST IT ALWAYS HAS EXISTED AND IT ALWAYS WILL!!!
And btw I'm just sayng what I've read about the tomb of Alexander THE MACEDONIAN, not if or if not Macedonia or greece is fake.
Speaking of fake,greece is the most corrupted state in the world and,even if it's in the EU. it's the only state that doesn't admint to have minority evidently there "aren't" any,What can be more fake than that????
are u on drugs? Macedonia was an ancient Greek kingdom and the state that u now call Macedonia is a slavic state and slavs have no relation to macedonia, as for who is the most corrupt, take a look at EU's evaluation for FYROM, oh i am sorry, was FYROM forced to repeat elactions due to FRAUD? Was it condemned for incarcerating Vasko Gligorijevic for speaking the truth? Welcome to reality
@ivago06 And when the book of Daniel was showed to him (Alexander the Great) wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended
Josephus (11.8.5)
You should be more sorry for not knowing history dude.....and don't talk about corruption, cause u are no better :)
@SPARTANsenator7 a part of our history?just wait and you will see that after 10-15 years in their history books they'll write that the revolution of 1821 made by monkeydonias..
hahahaha they may also say that since their flag resembles the imperial japanese, they will claim also the samurais, those FYROMians are big time losers!
samurais leei!!!!!den to skeftika pote etsi!hahahahahah!!!
standar to paizei ksenos .aytos einai skopianos h alvanos.sxedwn pantou pankosmios opou yparxoun morfomenoi an8rwpoi kai "kala" sxoleia tous ma8enoun thn istoria ths arxaias Ellados kala.ayto sthn ousia einai ena anekdoto h alliws mia farsa "kapoiwn" pou apla 8eloun na dimiourgisoun entaseis h kati allo pou sthn ousia 8a ofelhsei to kako ths patridas mas.
symfwnw oti auto me ta skopia einai paixnidia kapoiwn lobbies gia na prokalesoun anataraxi, oso omws exoume poulimenous politikous pou den antidroun stin propaganda twn skopianwn toso perissoteroi pou den kseroun istoria tha paraplanontai. Fantasou na itan sti thesi mas allo kratos opws to israil, ti tha tous eixe kanei?
@SPARTANsenator7 afou den yparxei swstos pro8ypourgos.o giwrgakis den exei mpales katw san ton patera tou.exei burger twn macdonalds to amerikanaki kai kanei oti tou poune.otan h Ntora htan ypourgos ekswterikwn ebgaine kai ekane dhlwseis peri asteiou kai na afhsoun ta paixnidia oi skopianoi kai xaxaxa kai xaxaxo..apo thn allh h ellada einai amyntiko kratos kai den psaxnei aities polemou..sto telos to zythma 8a mhnei opws exei mexri na apofasisoun oi monkeydonias na klepsoun kana allo onoma.
File olo to skiniko einai stimeno, oloi autoi oi megalopolitikoi dialegontai apo ksenes lesxes opws i Bilderberg gia na kratane tous Ellines se katastoli kai na tous elegxoun ek twn esw gia na ta ksepoulane. An den itan autoi, den tha tolmousan na kanoun tipota oi skopianoi kai oi ypoloipoi alla ta kanoun giati kseroun oti apo edw oi alloi tha kanoun tin papia. Prepei loipon prwta na ksefortwthoume tous edw ypiretes tvn ksenwn.
@SPARTANsenator7 ksereis , sthn amerikh ,se polla kolegia , stelnoun ta paidia tous ta prwta 3 xronia na ma8oun thn Ellhnikh glwssa gia na mporesoun argotera , na katonohsoun kalytera ta ma8hmatika thn fysikh ktl.tpt den einai tyxaio.
1°MACEDONIA EXISTS BEFORE GREECE WAS A STATE,WHEN MACEDONIA WAS A EMPIRE, THERE WERE ONLY GREEK MEGALOPOLIS(BIG CITY'S)
2 ° THE GREEKS WHAT TO STEAL OUR HISTORY THE MACEDONIAN HISTORY !!!
3° TODAY'S STATE OF MACEDONIA IS WHAT REMAINS FROM THE STATE OF MACEDONIA, AFTER THE FIRST BALCAN WAR WHEN IT WAS DIVIDED IN 1913 BETWEEN BULGARIA GREECE AND SERBIA.
... THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHER FACTS AND REPORTS WHERE THE STATE OF MACEDONIA IS IN QUESTION.
@alexseroxat Why do you think that we the macedonians can't read ancient coins??? Thats not a fact, that's just your opinion!!!
And by the way I have nothing against the greeks , I just want to be respected our constitutional right and the principle of the international law of self-determination, to be recognized as nation, with it's own language and identity, as we are...MACEDONIANS.
WE ARE MACEDONIANS WE SPEAK MACEDONIAN WE FEEL MACEDONIANS!!!
@alexseroxat buddy, your a total joke. open your fuckin eyes and realize this fact. We are all children of god, i'm guessing you a greek, and im also guessing your an orthodox christian? fuckin get over yourself and the wars and shit that took place before christ. we rely on books and anciant shit 2 tell us about where alexander was from and that, really who cares. jesus was born to introduce christianity. no matter what race you are, if your christian thats all that counts to be brothers.
@alexseroxat fuck your useless mate. its cunts on a high level with your fuckin mind set which start wars and shit like that. i care about the religion side of shit, greek maco russian serb bulgarian etc. if your a christian, your the same. thats how i see it mate.
@Venom1751 faggot name me one by one the kings of Macedonia! you stupid fuck son of a bitch im 100% sure you dont even know above 2.. and im sure that inside these names will not be not even 1 MONKEYDONIAN!!
So better you go cry to that prostitute that you call mother and ask her why she give born to a bastard.
really you waste my time. better go school and learn some history and after re-consider to make comments in issues that is for adults and not for kids
@alexseroxat Do you know the story about the Albanian, Bulgarian and the Greek man who caught a golden fish?The fish said: I will make true 1 wish each. The Greek said: I want a great volcano eruption in Macedonia.The Bulgarian man said: I want a great plague in Macedonia.The Albanian said: I want a nuclear explosion in Macedonia.
The 3 men discover that Greece, Bulgaria and Albania are no more.They asked the fish why did you do that? The fish said: Sorry, i was looking in old map of Macedonia.
In frame 1.26 - 1.27, it shows the mummy cover with the broken nose - why wasn't that showcased as Alexander's? Over the one that looked intact? After all Octavian was said to have broken the nose of the Alexander item when it was still being shown to the public.
When Demosthenes of Athens attacked Philip II of Macedon, in the Third Philippic, Demosthenes deemed the Macedonians as non-Hellenic, unrelated to the Hellenes, and not even worthy of being deemed as "barbarians."
Denko Malevski, FYROM First minister of Foreign Affairs - "since you made us invent a history .. we did invent it."
JOSEPH STALIN The Kremlin, 7 June 1946, "That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic."
FYROM hero Krste Misirkov, "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."
@ktm066 -3) Nobody cares about the trash you write, you Albanian coward. Nobody. Why? Because Where you have Albanians, you have Albania. Get it? Nobody wants that. Your own people flee your country every day to get away from that. You can cry about your nonsense the rest of your life and it will never change the reality. Your ignorant arguments are clumsy and irrelevant, you have little to no understanding of history. Get a real education before you try to argue with men, you pitiful child.
@apexmoto As for the insult you call me,,,This just goes to show how you greeks get upset when faced with much,Tell me you base macedonia as greek because the name,Well what about athena what does this mean in greek,It means speech in albanian why is that,,You greeks insult albanians withthe turk and caucasus thing and none of you can prove it,,BY the way a language is a language My language is explains alot of ancient in balkans,Why is THAT tell me ...
@apexmoto You say i have no base to argue with MEN.Then why dont you tell me the meanings of what i wrote simple Then i will leave you alone,What i wrote below HOMERIC,And PELASGIAN,and none of you stupid greeks could tell me,Just goes to show how you greks are simple..insult me as much as you want,At the end of the day we still hold the key to many things,,And we albanian are going to put the key in and turn it soon and unlock all the bullshit that you greeks lie about,
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country" -- said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
Makedon - Greek name and Greek homeland from the origins of Greeks and Hellas.
@ktm066 - yes, Dardania is a Greek name from the Greek Dardanos and the Dardanike. Illyria is a Greek name for a region ruled by the original Greek Illyrians. The region changed and became bigger, the bigger region was not pure Greek. Epiros was not Illyrian. Epiros was a sacred Greek homeland called "Valley of the Greeks" because of the importance in the origins of the Greeks. Palasgos, Thessalos, Graekos are all only Greek. Many radicals distort Greek things for politics.
@SMYRNAfreedom haha illyria had no borders with greece and epirus and it was huge it went all the way trough up to bosnia,,HHAHA greek stop lies about albanians,,you doneed to stop..greeks and serbs are the onlyones left in world who say albanians are not illyrrians,,you forget also that the itaila also worte history about albanians,,
@ktm066 - Illyria is a Greek name for the original region ruled and named by the original Greek Illyrians. The region and meaning changed and got bigger. An actual original Illyrian would only be a Greek. The name Alvanoi first appears very late in the bigger region 150AD. Alvanoi-Alb continuity is not proven. Albs were never considered "Illyrian" - only 200 years ago a Swede started this rumor. Epiros and the original Illyria are only Greek. Greek cities were also in "bosnia", .
@ktm066 Ivayla i am the Breaker Hand = Thyejdoren. If any here dont belive that all this 60 name aint albanish buy your self a english-albanish dictionary and see for you self if im wrong or not. Caprice have you ever heard about the dance Luleander well the illirians invented the dance, the name is dervied from the illirian LULE ANDER in albanish LULE ENDERR meaning DREAMING OF FLOWERS many girls are named LULEJETA meaning LIFE OF A FLOWER.
@ktm066 The Albanian language is the oldest Indo-European idiom according to WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975, ISBN: 0-539-048523-3
@SMYRNAfreedom tell me what illyria means?And dardania derives from albanians aswell.Your greek mytholygy is based on other nations,What about the foam birth of Aphrodite.We also have a story of that and she was,nt born where you say.
@ktm066 -2) You're just another hateful and jealous Albanian, like most of your kind. Let's see if your puny, brainwashed mind can comprehend what I write. The first sign of a failed civilization is a revisionist history. Understand? Please, show the world the great works of your ancestors! What a joke. It's comical when a small, obscure ethnicity tries to manufacture some nationalistic sentiment among its people by hijacking the history of other civilizations...
@apexmoto Albanians are illyrians,weather you greeks like it or not,Illyrians are related to macedonians epiruts,Illyrian.Is nothing greek,,we are illyrian this is why we share many ancient words of plasgian that you dont,,,If you deny this you are a fool,The only 2 people who dont belive albanians is serbs and greeks,The world knows from studies that albanian are illyirnan.You can argue and say diffrent my cusin is a historian,He has studied much in northern albania and have found
@ktm066 -1) Wow, did an Albanian just call me a gypsy? Get serious kid, how old are you anyway? "Everyone knows how you greeks lies"... Yeah, you're right. Everything Greece has done to contribute to the world, all our architecture, science, philosophy, medicine, art, etc. all lies, right? Or was all of that stolen from other civilizations? Was it Albania? I guess scientific scholars all over the world are in on the conspiracy too right? LOL, You are a sad, pitiful and delusional little man...
@apexmoto contribute to the world, all our architecture, science, philosophy, medicine, art, etc. all lies,for one somarians had a writing system before you greeks,You are claiming things from pelasgians,,,LET me remind you that greeks are not pelasgians,Herodotus says they speak a diffrent language to greek.
@ktm066, Yeah, where would we be without our Albanian labor force? I mean isn't it obvious how much you all contribute? After all, Albania is a shining example of industry. Call me crazy, but I think Greece will be just fine without your people, or any of the other myriad of foreigners walking the streets peddling junk. Don't you worry. Just convince your people to go home. You can all get together and talk about how you're the true descendants of other great civilizations too. Have fun with it.
@apexmoto lol what ever greek,Just keep denying who albanians are to make yourselfs happy. Everyone knows how you greeks lies,You greeks insult albanians but we sit back with a smile on our faces about use,Your whole histroy are all lies and the world is starting to relise that greeks are notnhing but gypsys.
@ktm066 Your mytholgy is from other and not from yourselfs,I dont understand how greeks can be pelasgians when it is fact that use went to war with them when your arrived just like the atlantis remind me about that war,you stupids shit,,,your history goes around in circles.just remember the barbarian you wrote about,,And IM STILL WAITING FOR THE TRANSLATION OF WHATI WROTE
@ktm066 ILL START AGIAN FOR YOU GREEKS ,CAN ANY GREEK TELL ME THIS MEANING,ANDHA-NO TER VERSI,TATA ATA PAR TI NI UK..CAN USE TELL ME.cOME YOU GREEKS SHOULD KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE IS LOL.you insult me but NONE of you can tell me these words,I CAN..lol i must be searching for ghosts..lolshitty greeks full of lies,,
@ktm066, However, since you seem to be filled with such nationalistic pride, how about you try convincing your fellow Albanians how great your country's legacy is. Maybe that way they wont illegally flood over our borders every day and contribute to our escalating crime rate. All of Greece would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, bye bye now.
@apexmoto LOL someone has to work in greece,,you greeks are large and dont work. you all sit at home and eat olives,If it were not for albanians your countrys would be up shit creek
@Georgios763, σπαταλας το χρονο σου με αυτον τον ηλιθιο, φιλε.
@ktm066, Your arguments are skewed and irrelevant and your delivery is borderline incoherent. I can reasonably surmise from your 'education' that any logical discourse with you would be a complete waste of time. You claim to "search for truth", but I see no objective reasoning or logical deduction in any of your remarks. The comments section of a YT video isn't the forum for scientific debate though, is it?
Tell me the meaningfor TY ET..Greeks say the alphabet was in vented 4000yrs ago?This doesnt make sence because these words are Dated 6000bc old,So there is a space of 2000yrs between 4000bc and 6000bc,So this means the alphabet was created before what greeks say.Do you know these words,I do it is spoken in albanians everyday..ISnt this funny,do you know where these words were found in kosova.
@ktm066 So how is this possible for albanians to have these words?Did we borrow these words from greeks?I dont think so because greeks dont have these words and if they do it wont be the same spelling to what it is,This is the same spelling of albanians,What about the lemnos stele that is very simular to albanians,VERY,What about apollonia A buriel of a young girl was found on a tomb stone on that stone is 100% albanian.
@ktm066 Why is that,there is much things albanian language explain that your greek doesnt,CAn you give me ANY LOGIC WHY PLEASE..also do you know the pelasgian word for sun is DIELLI.do you lnow what DIELLI means in albanian SUN..Why is that greek..geee when we came with turks we must have Drpped in thousnads of yrs ago with them.You greeks adopted it and changed it to HELI then added the o
Olympiada, as Alexander's mother had Greek name and her real name was Polyxeni, then when she got married her name was Myrtalis and then Olympiada and Stratoniki. All of these 4 names she had, are Greek.
That's why i 'm telling you that you hunt ghosts. The entire Balkan peninsula was Greek in the ancient times. Macedonians & Epirots were Greeks.
It's like you claim today that the Cypriots aren't Greeks.
My friend, the Albanian language is unique among the European languages.
If you are Illyrians as you say, your vocabulary would contain more latin words as the latin language influenced in a high degree the rest European languages.
The truth you claim doesn't always say things that you like.
There never were '' Shqiptare '' in the ancient times.
The Illyrians were Hellenophones and they had also nothing to do with the Epirots.
@Georgios763 There never were '' Shqiptare '' in the ancient times.you are right and there were also never greece,,correct me if im wrong,I am northern albanian not lower,
Most of the gheg albanians dilect is PIE do you know what that means,,,Some greeks belive the gheg dilect is greek witch is funny they call it gekes or some shit like that,,,Why is it that only albanians speak this language???You are silly you need to study gheg albanian,,
@Georgios763 you did insult me you say my language is bulgarian and slavnic,,You are far from the truth,,Tell me greek if albanians borrowed from greek why is it the words you say we borrowed havnt been spoken for thousands of yrs How is this possible really Tell me how,,alexandra was half illyrian,I dont hunt ghosts i just hunt for the truth<Not everything is greek,If greeks were illyrians,thracian,macedonians,epiruts, dardanian,.Then where are the albanians in between all these people?
@ktm066 You greeks say albanians came with turks,Then tell me who were the turks fighting,You say we are from caucasus albania,this is also been proven we are not from the,Bulgarian you say our language is totally diffrent BUT execept bulgarian have many thracian And also albanians do to,But we dont share common words of thracian.So explain to me with out the bullshit who do you think albanians are??If we are NONE of these people like greeks say then who are albanian>?Are we a tribe of greeks>
@ktm066 Or are we just another barbarian people just like the pelasgians?Albanians and greeks are the onlyone who share pelasgian,Tell me why this is?And as for athena yes they were mainly albanians speakers,even today they still speak alot of albanian and these people who speak albanians say they are greek?HOW,do you know what athena means in albanians?SPEECH,tell me what means in greeks as you have all meanings for greek words?And please tell me the meanings what i wrote below,
@ktm066 You seem to be avoiding it?Is it so hard to belive that albanians alos stemed from the ancient people of balkans do you really belive greeks were the onlones in balkans???It is said very clear that there were others in balkans when you arrived,What about bosnian pyramids they are older than greece itself who were the people who built them?GREEKS.?
@Georgios763 haha you see you belive im turkish,HUNS,,Attila..lmao yes greek im turkish and i am a hun.lmao..show me these scientific facts,,germinated lmao..wow you take two things and say we may be from them lmao.yes we are from caspians see where ancient albania is,,,lol or am i hungarian.lmao.my langauuge is none of those looks like i germinated.lol
you should know what thses words mean since you are from pelasgians???These are your so called ansecters...we must have adopted these words and hundreds and hundreds more from greek but when i dont know because these words havnt been spoken for thousands of yrs,BUT we still speak it isnt that funny that we do and greeks,bulgarians,macedonians,slavnic latin,NONE speak this why
@ktm066 LOL we must of got it from turks?Or maybe we even got from the aliens who came down and said here speak this language and put this in your language,Or even we got it from chinese or japanese,what you think..When albanian language was first translated into alphabet big suprise is that many what was translated was ancient words from balkans MANY MANY PIE,HOW come dorians had no rights in greece?\you greeks are full of shit it just hurts use that albanians and the world are waking up to use
You are frustrated like others of your kind. You suddenly discovered your ancestries after 4000 years and all of you try to convince the entire world that the Greeks .... weren't Greeks.
How serious can a man be by claiming such things ?!
Both of Albanians and SlavoBulgarians, you are frustrated people and if Greeks are full of shit as you say, then you are like flies who eat this kind of shit.
@Georgios763 ZGreek albanians and greeks were the only 2 people who are from balkans this is facts from Linguist around the world,we both are the only 2 countrys in the world who share the same dna,I am not full of shit you greeks insult albanians because use dam right know who is old,and it is fact that greeks are not pelasgian this is told by all your ancient writiers if uyou deside to change your mine of what they say then so be it,BUT remember there were people here before hellens arrived,
You think that the Greeks were only the Atheneans and the Spartans.
This is false. In Greece there been found the oldest human and the oldest epigraphs. Well it is obvious that these things aren't Albanian or Bulgarian.
Well, if you are a realist, you would notice that your people didn't contribute anything to civilization, not even as individuals.
@Georgios763 my people didn't contribute anything to civilization, not even as individuals.How do you know that they didnt ,The population thousands of yrs ago in athena spoke albanians dilect,,How do you know we didnt create much things we created the fustenella witch you stole and now say it is 100% greek,,,
I 'm pretty sure that you aren't Pelasgians neither Illyrians.
Alexander, the Greatest of the Greeks and not just great as you are misinformed, spread Hellenism. Not Shqiptarism or Macedonism or Pelasgism or Epirotism or Slavism or Bulgarism or Skopjanism.
He spread Hellenism. We may communicate with the modern lingua franca '' english '' but we put first our countries and our civilizations.
Take a look at the modern epigraph of Alexandria's library. What do you see ?
@Georgios763 aleandras mother was illyrian,You greeks are not illyrian,If albanians are not illyrians then where did there illyiran go,,albanian language has more none borrowed words than borrowed and there is much illyirian in our language citys states even kings queens,,why do no greek has this,The only 2 people in balkans was greeks and albanian no slavnic shits,
alexandra spoke Gheg albanian dilect,,He was a macedonian albanian,,He was not greek at all.Macedonians and albanians are from the same stock.any greek who thinks alexandra was greek is a fool..
actually that is rosetass stone when you write anicent macedonia on google images there is an image with rosetass stone and when you write anicent macedonian language 94% of the pictures are with rosetass stone
@Georgios763 I know how to read,he was never greek.IF he is greek why did his father destroy greece,And why didnt he destory epirus but only greece,why did he have a alliance with illyrians and epirus and not greek.why did he wear ancient scull cap that is worn by albanians and macedonians,,...
Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea:
[...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
[Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt)]
@Georgios763 repeat after me,Leka I Madh...? Alexander’s mother Olympia was an Epirote Princess. We also know that Philips’ mother Eurydice was Illyrian,The question however is whether the Macedonian ruling house was of Greek or Illyrian descent? WHAT Does EMATHIA mean in greek??and while you are on the subject of what alexandra and other spoke,Now i will show you his forfather language,
@ktm066 Alexander asks if Philotas will speak in the language of their fathers,
"... Macedones ... de te indicaturi sunt, quero an patrio sermone sis apud eos usurus," "... the Macedonians who will judge you, I ask if you will use the language of [our] fathers with them," The response: "Praeter Macedonas ... plerique adsunt, quos facilius quae dicam percep-turus arbitror, si eadem lingua fuero usus qua tu egisti, non ob aliud, credo quam ut oratio tua intellegi posset a pluribus," "
@ktm066 Above and] beyond the Macedonians ... there are many present whom, I feel, will more easily grasp the things I say if I use the same language you did, for no other reason, I believe, than that your speech might be understood by many."
@ktm066 Greek was for the classical world the international language of trade, as English is in modern times, and the elite Macedonians as well as the elite Illyrians spoke it but Alexander and the rest of Macedonians could not help but feel offended when Philotas, one of their own, addressed them in a tongue different from that of their fathers. The language of Macedonians was the “barbarian - Pelasgic” tongue, spoken by the Illyrians of Epirus (Toscans) and Illyria (
@ktm066 (Gegenes - Homeric Hymns) and Plutarch indirectly proves it, when he says that young Alexander retired in Illyria after the quarrel with Philip:
this would be such a great discovery...
davycrocketful 2 weeks ago
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Makedonia was never Greek , that is FACT.
the greek State at the time of Alexander the Great never exist , that is also FACT.
The first battle of Alexander the Great was against the Athenians, that is FACT.
Tell me , what is the oldest coin with the inscription : ELLADA,HELLAS or Greek.
Tell me , what is available on all coins of the Macedonians:Ellada, Hellas or Greek?
Tell me , what is in the bible writing: Ellada, Hellas or Greek?
Greeks can never be MAKEDONIANS.
Devoj4E 3 weeks ago
I have the ability to command life after death....
MydogTobes 1 month ago
i still hate Alexander he was a total fag and didnt do hardly anything great even his father was more impressive i really hate historians that feed on the lies of Alexander and he tried to claim he was greater the Cyrus the Great what a joke Cyrus empire lasted for over 2000 years Alexander was a drunk idiot that was born at a lucky time and just followed his fathers battle plans more like his generals did and he drank and whored all day
Antioxidantt 1 month ago
@Antioxidantt lol your retarded
futebalmakedonia 1 month ago
@Antioxidantt When Alexander was 25 years old he had qonquered the known world. What had cyrus done by that age?? Nothing!!
Stefanoitch 5 days ago
Okay..Aleksander The Great is a Macedonian king.. or idk. Im 6th grade! and Macedonia is Not in Greece..Hello? A country in a country? I mean.. HELLO!? >.< His father Samoil was a Macedonian king.. He was the 3th kid in the family..And he killed his 2nd brother only to be the king..And the first brother i dont remember his name .. He died in a war.. So please..Be respectful! :)
Значи Александар не е грк..
ElenaLovesShane 1 month ago
Interesting
Coffeeandasmoke 3 months ago
For all those that don't understand hatred and foul language of certain peoples here, let me explain: During nationalistic projects of 19. century following french revolution many countries, small and big, began making their own "nation" and its myths in order to justify territorial expansion. The propaganda and ideological indoctrination resulted in these DUMB KIDS all over Balkan who fanatically bash other countries and raise its own to the sky. You see, 19. century never ended in Balkan.
shadowC10ne 3 months ago
When 2013 comes my friends then try say Macedonia is greece n alexander was grk i repeat say those exact words in 2013 n use will look like such fools with your ignorant ways ahaha
YaBudala 4 months ago
alexander wasnt a fuckin pagen, whats this cunt onabout..And..Alexandar is macedonian not greek! Christ was not born yet in that time, and the only religion or "beliefs" was that of what had been created. all forms of life believed in a sort of 'god' for somethig, then the overall 'king of the gods' who was zues, allah, rah etc. Now greece was more the area of which several citys where built. Macedonia was a city, athens,pela, etc and at that time, there was fewer languages created and spoken.
Vacissitude 6 months ago 2
@Vacissitude Uhm.. I'm sorry, but are you fucking retarded? Greece was a great empire. And Alexander was greek. Do you really think Alexander the Great was a dirty communist? Let me put it this way: there are 2 macedonia. One is in Greece and the other is a made up country. Alexander was from the greek Macedonia. Greece was much larger than it is today, so the country Macedonia could not have been at the same place it is now. (I think)
InforcedHellCrusader 6 months ago
@InforcedHellCrusader Mate you got no clue in life, that is simply it. not gona waste my time talking to a useless cunt, who reads books made by greeks. really thow, i dont give a fuck bout alexander, the fact nowadays greeks, maco's russians, serbs, bulgarians, polish etc are all orthodox christians, thats what counts mate, open your eyes. histories history!....(get it)
Vacissitude 6 months ago
@Vacissitude Oh well, nice chatting with you, retard <3
InforcedHellCrusader 6 months ago
@InforcedHellCrusader hopefully you've come to realize. if not well, your a tossa, pure and simple mate. :)
Vacissitude 6 months ago
@Vacissitude k
InforcedHellCrusader 6 months ago
i think the tomb of alexander is in INDONESIA
paplumo 7 months ago
ivago τραβα και γαμισου μπασταρδε κλεφτρονι.απαντα ρε αρχιδι,ξερεις ελληνικα μηπως?η απαντα στη γλωσσα που ανακαλυψατε παλιομαλακα γυφτο.
sak3859 8 months ago
αντε ρε κολοφαρες ξυπνησατε και γινατε ολοι ελληνες,παλιομπασταρδεμενες χωρες του κλωτσου και του μπατσου,πεστε μας καποιον σημαντικο απτη χωρα σας και μετα θα σου πω εγω για γνωσεις και ιστορια.τι σχεση εχετε εσεις με την ελλαδα?αρχιδια ψευτομαγκες ολοι σας
sak3859 8 months ago
One of the experts appearing in this National Geographic documentary, Andrew Chugg, presents some more videos on the tomb of Alexander the Great on the MacedonAlexander channel on Youtube.
alquinne 9 months ago
macedonians speak macedonian language STUPID greek go fuck you self and learn your poor history and do not steal another history asshole
oliver00s 9 months ago
My name is I DONT GIVE A SHIT YOUR A........
lawsarejusttogovern 10 months ago
the adds suck , sorry
dingocrap 10 months ago
That's what you may think that I am.
But I know that I'M MACEDONIAN!!!
And every day I live i'm find more fact's,that confirme my Identity...
ivago06 10 months ago
You're right that does not make you native indian.
I live in Italy and here there are lot's of ancient books and reports that speak about the time when our state of MACEDONIA was divided.
Greece is the one who has the problem with our name so I think you are the one who should call yourself Macedonian not greek.
And please don't embarass yourself speaking nonsense.
Take Care
ivago06 10 months ago
МАКЕДОНИЈА Е ВЕЧНА!!!
ivago06 10 months ago
@ivago06 Διαχρονικη Μακεδονια..
thats what you mean,right?
i just wanted to say it in the language they spoke thesetimes..^^
your language seems like russian
Tolisakis97 7 months ago
How can macedonian language be greek??? the greek is greek the macedonian is macedonian!!! Our name has always been MACEDONIA. No one has asked the maceodnian people to change it's name, it's always been imposed by the "BIG WORLD FORCES", to sotisfy the EU'S pet --> greece.
ivago06 10 months ago
@ivago06 Read the scripts then in the tomb of Phillip,you can?? it's all in Greek language in macedonian dialect.
Macedonians,Spartans,Athenians,Cretans,Thessalians,Epirotans etc all of them speaked Greek Language and called Greeks and their states was parts of Greece.Your language is slavic bulgarian and have nothing to do with alexander or ancient macedonia. You just invade macedonian lands and starting call yourself macedonians geografically but you are tatars ethnic.I am macedonian but u not
passariskwstas 8 months ago
thank god for that donkey lol
Courtfab21 10 months ago
h Ellada einai san ton ypologisth..
Exei gemisei "ious" kai xreiazetai epeigontws format
alexseroxat 11 months ago
On this occasion, he [Alexander] made a very long speech to the Thessalians and the other Greeks, and when he saw that they encouraged him with shouts to lead them against the Barbarians, he shifted his lance into his left hand, and with his right appealed to the gods, as Callisthenes tells us, praying them, if he was really sprung from Zeus, to defend and strengthen the Greeks.
[Plutarch. Alexander (ed. Bernadotte Perrin) XXXIII]
MakedonianHistory 11 months ago 16
"Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Greece, I should not have come to tell you; but I (Alexander I) am myself a Greek by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery" [Herodotus Book IX ,45,(Kalliopi)]
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago 4
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Recently it's been discovered a tomb in a ancient city called Pela near the border between Macedonia and Greece.The tomb it's been covered(closed) with enormous stone door.And inside it's assumed it's big over 100mq
ivago06 11 months ago
@ivago06 omg my friend!!!
Pella is in Katerini Greece!for what macedonian and Greek borders you speak?
Btw Macedonia is also in greece unless you're speaking for the fake nation that now they call it Macedonia.
open a map please
alexseroxat 11 months ago 20
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@alexseroxat
I am deeply sorry for not wanting to accept the facts.MACEDONIA EXIST IT ALWAYS HAS EXISTED AND IT ALWAYS WILL!!!
And btw I'm just sayng what I've read about the tomb of Alexander THE MACEDONIAN, not if or if not Macedonia or greece is fake.
Speaking of fake,greece is the most corrupted state in the world and,even if it's in the EU. it's the only state that doesn't admint to have minority evidently there "aren't" any,What can be more fake than that????
ivago06 11 months ago
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@ivago06
are u on drugs? Macedonia was an ancient Greek kingdom and the state that u now call Macedonia is a slavic state and slavs have no relation to macedonia, as for who is the most corrupt, take a look at EU's evaluation for FYROM, oh i am sorry, was FYROM forced to repeat elactions due to FRAUD? Was it condemned for incarcerating Vasko Gligorijevic for speaking the truth? Welcome to reality
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SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@ivago06 And when the book of Daniel was showed to him (Alexander the Great) wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended
Josephus (11.8.5)
You should be more sorry for not knowing history dude.....and don't talk about corruption, cause u are no better :)
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago 3
@alexseroxat
well said, those Vardasrkian imposters copied the Greek name Macedonia and have the audacity to steal a part of Greek history.
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@SPARTANsenator7 a part of our history?just wait and you will see that after 10-15 years in their history books they'll write that the revolution of 1821 made by monkeydonias..
alexseroxat 11 months ago
@alexseroxat
hahahaha they may also say that since their flag resembles the imperial japanese, they will claim also the samurais, those FYROMians are big time losers!
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@SPARTANsenator7 hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
samurais leei!!!!!den to skeftika pote etsi!hahahahahah!!!
standar to paizei ksenos .aytos einai skopianos h alvanos.sxedwn pantou pankosmios opou yparxoun morfomenoi an8rwpoi kai "kala" sxoleia tous ma8enoun thn istoria ths arxaias Ellados kala.ayto sthn ousia einai ena anekdoto h alliws mia farsa "kapoiwn" pou apla 8eloun na dimiourgisoun entaseis h kati allo pou sthn ousia 8a ofelhsei to kako ths patridas mas.
alexseroxat 11 months ago
@alexseroxat
symfwnw oti auto me ta skopia einai paixnidia kapoiwn lobbies gia na prokalesoun anataraxi, oso omws exoume poulimenous politikous pou den antidroun stin propaganda twn skopianwn toso perissoteroi pou den kseroun istoria tha paraplanontai. Fantasou na itan sti thesi mas allo kratos opws to israil, ti tha tous eixe kanei?
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@SPARTANsenator7 afou den yparxei swstos pro8ypourgos.o giwrgakis den exei mpales katw san ton patera tou.exei burger twn macdonalds to amerikanaki kai kanei oti tou poune.otan h Ntora htan ypourgos ekswterikwn ebgaine kai ekane dhlwseis peri asteiou kai na afhsoun ta paixnidia oi skopianoi kai xaxaxa kai xaxaxo..apo thn allh h ellada einai amyntiko kratos kai den psaxnei aities polemou..sto telos to zythma 8a mhnei opws exei mexri na apofasisoun oi monkeydonias na klepsoun kana allo onoma.
alexseroxat 11 months ago
@alexseroxat
File olo to skiniko einai stimeno, oloi autoi oi megalopolitikoi dialegontai apo ksenes lesxes opws i Bilderberg gia na kratane tous Ellines se katastoli kai na tous elegxoun ek twn esw gia na ta ksepoulane. An den itan autoi, den tha tolmousan na kanoun tipota oi skopianoi kai oi ypoloipoi alla ta kanoun giati kseroun oti apo edw oi alloi tha kanoun tin papia. Prepei loipon prwta na ksefortwthoume tous edw ypiretes tvn ksenwn.
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@SPARTANsenator7 ksereis , sthn amerikh ,se polla kolegia , stelnoun ta paidia tous ta prwta 3 xronia na ma8oun thn Ellhnikh glwssa gia na mporesoun argotera , na katonohsoun kalytera ta ma8hmatika thn fysikh ktl.tpt den einai tyxaio.
alexseroxat 11 months ago
@alexseroxat
den pisteuw oti einai Italos autos, mallon Skopianos einai.
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
@SPARTANsenator7 anistoritoi postaroun oti tous serbiroun gia na dimiourgoune 8ema.
allo ena 8yma ths paraplhroforhshs.
alexseroxat 11 months ago
@alexseroxat
pantws polloi skopianoi to paizoun ksenoi kai kala gia na dimiourgoun tin pseudaisthisi oti exoun ypostiriksi!
SPARTANsenator7 11 months ago
FACT'S !!! :
1°MACEDONIA EXISTS BEFORE GREECE WAS A STATE,WHEN MACEDONIA WAS A EMPIRE, THERE WERE ONLY GREEK MEGALOPOLIS(BIG CITY'S)
2 ° THE GREEKS WHAT TO STEAL OUR HISTORY THE MACEDONIAN HISTORY !!!
3° TODAY'S STATE OF MACEDONIA IS WHAT REMAINS FROM THE STATE OF MACEDONIA, AFTER THE FIRST BALCAN WAR WHEN IT WAS DIVIDED IN 1913 BETWEEN BULGARIA GREECE AND SERBIA.
... THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHER FACTS AND REPORTS WHERE THE STATE OF MACEDONIA IS IN QUESTION.
WHY DO YOU DENY OUR HISTORY???
ivago06 10 months ago
@ivago06 You tell me now , that you are macedonian from before right?
can i give 1 fact to prove you that you are nothing more that a thief of our history?
Why i -CAN- read the ancient macedonian coins and you are -NOT-?
answer me ancient Macedonian and please read history.
Macedonia exist and Alexander unite Greeks.BUT was Also Greeks
-MACEDONIAN GREEKS-
alexseroxat 10 months ago
@alexseroxat Why do you think that we the macedonians can't read ancient coins??? Thats not a fact, that's just your opinion!!!
And by the way I have nothing against the greeks , I just want to be respected our constitutional right and the principle of the international law of self-determination, to be recognized as nation, with it's own language and identity, as we are...MACEDONIANS.
WE ARE MACEDONIANS WE SPEAK MACEDONIAN WE FEEL MACEDONIANS!!!
ivago06 10 months ago
@ivago06 you cant read ancient coins because are in Greek language written
Also Macedonian language is NOT slavic is Greek
Your nation have already change 2-3 names right?
First you have to decide which name is more good for you
and second to create a fake history to support your name..
Now if you feel Macedonian thats an other story my friend
ΑΝ ΖΟΥΣΕ Ο ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΤΑ ΚΕΦΑΛΙΑ ΣΑΣ ΘΑ ΔΙΑΚΟΣΜΟΥΣΑΝ ΤΟΝ ΛΕΥΚΟ ΠΥΡΓΟ
alexseroxat 10 months ago
@alexseroxat buddy, your a total joke. open your fuckin eyes and realize this fact. We are all children of god, i'm guessing you a greek, and im also guessing your an orthodox christian? fuckin get over yourself and the wars and shit that took place before christ. we rely on books and anciant shit 2 tell us about where alexander was from and that, really who cares. jesus was born to introduce christianity. no matter what race you are, if your christian thats all that counts to be brothers.
Vacissitude 6 months ago
@Vacissitude Dude you totaly fail.if you dont care for nothing dont bother us.
alexseroxat 6 months ago
@alexseroxat fuck your useless mate. its cunts on a high level with your fuckin mind set which start wars and shit like that. i care about the religion side of shit, greek maco russian serb bulgarian etc. if your a christian, your the same. thats how i see it mate.
Vacissitude 6 months ago
Macedonia did not exist before Greece. Macedonia was always a state of Greece.
Like Thessalia, Attica, Ionia, etc.
What are you talking about?
What you call today fake Macedonians, came in the region around the 6th century A.D
If you call yourself Macedonia automatically you call your self Greek.
If you don't want to be called Greek then find another name that suits you better.
I live in NY that does not make me American Native Indian.
marriedsinglescom 10 months ago
@alexseroxat I am macedonian.
First Our country is not fake!
WE ARE ABOVE GREECE.
Second Macedonia isnt greek That's final,
We are the people of alexander the great. Greeks can think that macedonia is theirs... but they are wrong..
So damn wrong.
Just like you
Venom1751 6 months ago
@Venom1751 Just stating your feelings does not make it correct.
Atheeizm 6 months ago
@Venom1751 hahahah THATS FINAL IDIOT???
WHO SAYS THAT? YOU? FAKE MONKEYDONIANS THE DAY THAT YOU PROCLAIM YOUR LAND
AS ANCIENT MAYA IS NEAR.. FUCKING THIEFS
alexseroxat 5 months ago
@alexseroxat Nigga macedonia aint greek Period.
GO die if u like. It was never greek and never will be ! .!.
Venom1751 5 months ago
@Venom1751 Greek you stupid gay motherfucker you born you never BECOME!!
Death to you piece of shit and to your own nation
alexseroxat 5 months ago
@alexseroxat BOoo hooo u gonna cry now bitch?!
Ha! I don't give a single fuck about you or your opinion that macedonia is greek. You people are assholes tryin' to steal our Nations pride.
Let's face it dickhead MACEDONIA WAS NEVER GREEK AND NEVER GONNA BE!
You're just a dumb fucktard who's blinded by the statement that macedonia is greek BUT IT AINT!
Fag.
Nuff said.
Venom1751 5 months ago
@Venom1751 faggot name me one by one the kings of Macedonia! you stupid fuck son of a bitch im 100% sure you dont even know above 2.. and im sure that inside these names will not be not even 1 MONKEYDONIAN!!
So better you go cry to that prostitute that you call mother and ask her why she give born to a bastard.
really you waste my time. better go school and learn some history and after re-consider to make comments in issues that is for adults and not for kids
alexseroxat 5 months ago
@alexseroxat Bo hoooo im so offended :/
Go on cry a little bit more bitch. I like ur stories
Venom1751 5 months ago
@Venom1751 you are not offend Mongol you just dont know what to speak.
So go die you are useless here
alexseroxat 5 months ago
@alexseroxat Do you know the story about the Albanian, Bulgarian and the Greek man who caught a golden fish?The fish said: I will make true 1 wish each. The Greek said: I want a great volcano eruption in Macedonia.The Bulgarian man said: I want a great plague in Macedonia.The Albanian said: I want a nuclear explosion in Macedonia.
The 3 men discover that Greece, Bulgaria and Albania are no more.They asked the fish why did you do that? The fish said: Sorry, i was looking in old map of Macedonia.
ausroar 2 weeks ago
@ausroar Man this is not a story..this is a jog that you make in fyrom
alexseroxat 6 hours ago
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There are indicates that his grave is maybe in Macedonia!
CAKIMacedonian 11 months ago
In frame 1.26 - 1.27, it shows the mummy cover with the broken nose - why wasn't that showcased as Alexander's? Over the one that looked intact? After all Octavian was said to have broken the nose of the Alexander item when it was still being shown to the public.
monicag8 11 months ago
@monicag8
Augustus broke the ACTUAL nose of Megas Alexandros, not the one of the cover!
Jose247 11 months ago
I read somewhere the Roman Emperor Comedus stole Alexander's armour from the tomb while it was still in Alexandria.
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susymullicanchf 1 year ago
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Macedonia forever!
Fuck greeks!
CassanderMakedon 1 year ago
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Yeah and Barack Obama is greek too !!!!!
sharimus 1 year ago
hahahahahahah.you greeks and serbs are the onlyones who deny this,,
ktm066 1 year ago
When Demosthenes of Athens attacked Philip II of Macedon, in the Third Philippic, Demosthenes deemed the Macedonians as non-Hellenic, unrelated to the Hellenes, and not even worthy of being deemed as "barbarians."
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Denko Malevski, FYROM First minister of Foreign Affairs - "since you made us invent a history .. we did invent it."
JOSEPH STALIN The Kremlin, 7 June 1946, "That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic."
FYROM hero Krste Misirkov, "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@ktm066 -3) Nobody cares about the trash you write, you Albanian coward. Nobody. Why? Because Where you have Albanians, you have Albania. Get it? Nobody wants that. Your own people flee your country every day to get away from that. You can cry about your nonsense the rest of your life and it will never change the reality. Your ignorant arguments are clumsy and irrelevant, you have little to no understanding of history. Get a real education before you try to argue with men, you pitiful child.
apexmoto 1 year ago
@apexmoto As for the insult you call me,,,This just goes to show how you greeks get upset when faced with much,Tell me you base macedonia as greek because the name,Well what about athena what does this mean in greek,It means speech in albanian why is that,,You greeks insult albanians withthe turk and caucasus thing and none of you can prove it,,BY the way a language is a language My language is explains alot of ancient in balkans,Why is THAT tell me ...
ktm066 1 year ago
@apexmoto You say i have no base to argue with MEN.Then why dont you tell me the meanings of what i wrote simple Then i will leave you alone,What i wrote below HOMERIC,And PELASGIAN,and none of you stupid greeks could tell me,Just goes to show how you greks are simple..insult me as much as you want,At the end of the day we still hold the key to many things,,And we albanian are going to put the key in and turn it soon and unlock all the bullshit that you greeks lie about,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country" -- said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
Makedon - Greek name and Greek homeland from the origins of Greeks and Hellas.
Macedonian - Greek name only for ethnic Greeks.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@SMYRNAfreedom I AM NOT SLAVNIC I AM ALBANIAN.MY FAMILY ARE FROM KOSOVA....
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 - yes, Dardania is a Greek name from the Greek Dardanos and the Dardanike. Illyria is a Greek name for a region ruled by the original Greek Illyrians. The region changed and became bigger, the bigger region was not pure Greek. Epiros was not Illyrian. Epiros was a sacred Greek homeland called "Valley of the Greeks" because of the importance in the origins of the Greeks. Palasgos, Thessalos, Graekos are all only Greek. Many radicals distort Greek things for politics.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@SMYRNAfreedom haha illyria had no borders with greece and epirus and it was huge it went all the way trough up to bosnia,,HHAHA greek stop lies about albanians,,you doneed to stop..greeks and serbs are the onlyones left in world who say albanians are not illyrrians,,you forget also that the itaila also worte history about albanians,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 - Illyria is a Greek name for the original region ruled and named by the original Greek Illyrians. The region and meaning changed and got bigger. An actual original Illyrian would only be a Greek. The name Alvanoi first appears very late in the bigger region 150AD. Alvanoi-Alb continuity is not proven. Albs were never considered "Illyrian" - only 200 years ago a Swede started this rumor. Epiros and the original Illyria are only Greek. Greek cities were also in "bosnia", .
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@SMYRNAfreedom here is some excamples.'Ouranos' is the classical Greek meaning for Heaven. In Albanian 'ou
ra' means 'I fell'. 'Ou' represents the name of the first god and the word
survives in Albanian as the personal pronoun 'I'. Imagine early man viewing
the sky around him. Henotices that at every point that he views, the sky
appears to fall to the earth. His understanding may be that god comes to
earth. Place your finger at the point where the sky touches the
earth...
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Place your finger at the point where the sky touches the
earth...follow the path of the sun as it goes overhead. You are making a
bridge over your head. In Albanian the word for bridge is 'ura'. 'Urate'
means the 'blessed Father'. How did these words originate and evolve in the
Albanian language. This concept of 'ra' is very important if one wishes to
understand the ancients and word development and usage.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 We know that the dividing line between the four principal tribes is
generally thought to be the Shkumbi River. North of the River are the Geges.
In Albanian 'veri' is the word for 'north' - the place of the egg (ve{z}
ri)? South of the River, 'iuge', is 'the divine earth' (soil). In some
primitive way the early stories may have evolved whereby there was some
comparison of the beginnings with the concept of a marriage and even what
appears to be the concept of the fertilization' of an egg
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 That beginning
could be placed somewhere along the Shkumbi River, the ancient name of which
was Genusus. In classical Greek 'genesis' meant 'the beginning'. In
Albanian 'ge nuse' means the 'earth as a 'bride' - a bride of heaven? 'The
beginning' may have been conceptualized as taking place when heaven married
earth. (Ge - the root for many words in Albanian dealing with the soil, land,
etc.) The concept 'ge nuse' may have then passed on to the Hellenes and
evolved into the meaning of
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 'beginning', 'genesis'. The same might be said
with regard to the concept of 'heaven', 'ou ra' nos. It may be that the
ancients thought of the 'beginning of the world' taking place when Heaven
married Earth...And Earth first bare starry heaven, equal to herself, to cover
(spread over) her on every side...". (Hesiod). In Albanian 'dhenderr' =
'groom'. 'Dhe' (ge) means 'soil', 'earth'. 'Nder' = 'extend', 'spread'
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 One offspring of the marriage of Heaven and Earth was the sun, or
dawn, 'aferdite' in Albanian. In Albanian 'lind' = 'born' and 'lindje' =
'east'; 'perendim' '= 'west' and 'Perendia' = 'God'. The terms equate the
birth of the sun in the east and in the old Illyrian beliefs in ancestoral
worship, when a person dies he became 'god-like'. The sun passes on to the
west and then out of sight. In Greek, the 'Zephyr' referred to the 'west
wind'.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 In Albanian 'Ze fare' = 'the voice, or message of the ancestors',
'the seed'...In Greek mythology there is a hideous story of a 'foam birth'
attached to the beginnings of Aphrodite, the supposed goddess of love and
beauty. In the Albanian version, the story of Aferdite could very well
exemplify love and beauty.whereby Heaven and Earth marry and touch and at
that point there is the birth of dawn. The old name of Elbasan
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 a city in
the vicinity of the Shkumbi River is 'Scampa'. In Albanian 's cam pa' = 'I
did not' or 'could not see'. It was perhaps the place where one couldn't
see because the first day in the beginning of the world did not yet come
about.' 'Shkumbe', in Albanian, = 'foam'.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Kronus was the son of Ouranos. 'Kr oun' in Albanian is 'He I'., or
'He is I'. That is god coming to earth as a mortal, or sending his son to
earth - 'Kr esht oun'. Eshtune is the word for Saturday in Albanian, the
sixth day. According to the Bible, God made the heaven and earth, and on
the sixth day he made man.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Dionysus in Thracian was written 'Diounsis' . It is my contention
that his name reflected his first name, Di and the names of his father, Zeus
and great grandfather Ouranos - as last and middle names,{Since Illyrian was supposedly not a written language, we might be
aided by the writing and spellings in both the Thracian and Etruscan
languages. We might also find out some day that it was a written language.
One work, 'The Etruscans Begin to Speak' by Z. Mayani, might hold the clue
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Another relevant and interesting work with regard to concepts mentioned would
be 'The Sacred Symbols of Mu' by James Churchward, 1933, although he lacked
important information about the Illyrians that is being expressed presently.)Since the late 1960's, early 70's, I kept in mind the following
quote from the 1963 Encyclopedia Britannica (but the quote, I believe, was
also present in much earlier editions as far back as 1911, and possibly the
late 1800's):
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 "Thrace...There is on well-defined difference between aboriginal
Thracians and Illyrians. Thus there was an Illyrian tribe. Brygi; a Thracian
tribe, Bryges; and, in Strabo's time, a tribe called Dardanii, then reckoned
Illyrian, living next (to) the Thracian Bessi (in whose land was the oldest
oracle of Dionysus), were probably as much Thracian as Illyrian." (Vol.22,
P.159)
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 It would appear that a full account of the original function of
Dionysus (Diounsis) could be had by researching the relation of the god with
the concept of the Albanian 'Besa' of ancient time. Even Leka E Madhe made
contact with the Bessi priests in order to ensure the success of his mission
or future. 'Besa' was a concept important to kings or rulers.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 With the memory of this quote from the Encyclopedia in mind, along
with the Thracian spelling of Dionysus, 'Diounsis', one day in 1978 I started
to review the genealogy of Dionysus. The ideas kept increasing. At one
point I concluded that it could have been possible that ancient man thought
the 'beginning of the world' - at least in their early stories - took place
in central Albania along the Shkumbi River.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Somewhat surprised by what I
thought I had discovered I started to wander in the library and I found
myself looking for an atlas of old maps with ancient names. It was then that
I discovered that the old name of Shkumbi was Genusus. I knew then what I
had found. When the ideas unraveled as they did, the book was the initial
response to this new idea - and published in 1980 - so that this discovery,
this reasoning process, could be documented. The long time period since
then, 21 years,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 can be explained simply by 'the condition' of the Albanian
people - the result of many factors.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Ivayla i am the Breaker Hand = Thyejdoren. If any here dont belive that all this 60 name aint albanish buy your self a english-albanish dictionary and see for you self if im wrong or not. Caprice have you ever heard about the dance Luleander well the illirians invented the dance, the name is dervied from the illirian LULE ANDER in albanish LULE ENDERR meaning DREAMING OF FLOWERS many girls are named LULEJETA meaning LIFE OF A FLOWER.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 The Albanian language is the oldest Indo-European idiom according to WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975, ISBN: 0-539-048523-3
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 In Albanian 'Genusus' would translate to 'Mother Earth as a bride'. 'Nuse'
translates to 'bride'... It is most probable the origin of the Greek word
'Genesis', 'the beginning', derives from this concept. In Albanian the word
'dhenderr' translates to 'groom'. 'Dhe' translates to 'earth', and 'nderr'
translates 'to extend' or 'spread over'. From Homeric Hymn, c.800 B.C.:
'Hail Mother of the gods, wife of starry Heaven'. From Hesiod, c.700 B.C.:
'And earth first bare starry Heaven,
ktm066 1 year ago
@SMYRNAfreedom tell me what illyria means?And dardania derives from albanians aswell.Your greek mytholygy is based on other nations,What about the foam birth of Aphrodite.We also have a story of that and she was,nt born where you say.
ktm066 1 year ago
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@apexmoto herodotus...57. What the language of the Pelasgi was I cannot say with any certainty....
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 -2) You're just another hateful and jealous Albanian, like most of your kind. Let's see if your puny, brainwashed mind can comprehend what I write. The first sign of a failed civilization is a revisionist history. Understand? Please, show the world the great works of your ancestors! What a joke. It's comical when a small, obscure ethnicity tries to manufacture some nationalistic sentiment among its people by hijacking the history of other civilizations...
apexmoto 1 year ago
@apexmoto Albanians are illyrians,weather you greeks like it or not,Illyrians are related to macedonians epiruts,Illyrian.Is nothing greek,,we are illyrian this is why we share many ancient words of plasgian that you dont,,,If you deny this you are a fool,The only 2 people who dont belive albanians is serbs and greeks,The world knows from studies that albanian are illyirnan.You can argue and say diffrent my cusin is a historian,He has studied much in northern albania and have found
ktm066 1 year ago
@apexmoto Things to prove there were a civilizations...That is very ancient,,from old building made out of mud bricks,from much other,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 -1) Wow, did an Albanian just call me a gypsy? Get serious kid, how old are you anyway? "Everyone knows how you greeks lies"... Yeah, you're right. Everything Greece has done to contribute to the world, all our architecture, science, philosophy, medicine, art, etc. all lies, right? Or was all of that stolen from other civilizations? Was it Albania? I guess scientific scholars all over the world are in on the conspiracy too right? LOL, You are a sad, pitiful and delusional little man...
apexmoto 1 year ago
@apexmoto contribute to the world, all our architecture, science, philosophy, medicine, art, etc. all lies,for one somarians had a writing system before you greeks,You are claiming things from pelasgians,,,LET me remind you that greeks are not pelasgians,Herodotus says they speak a diffrent language to greek.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066, Yeah, where would we be without our Albanian labor force? I mean isn't it obvious how much you all contribute? After all, Albania is a shining example of industry. Call me crazy, but I think Greece will be just fine without your people, or any of the other myriad of foreigners walking the streets peddling junk. Don't you worry. Just convince your people to go home. You can all get together and talk about how you're the true descendants of other great civilizations too. Have fun with it.
apexmoto 1 year ago
@apexmoto lol what ever greek,Just keep denying who albanians are to make yourselfs happy. Everyone knows how you greeks lies,You greeks insult albanians but we sit back with a smile on our faces about use,Your whole histroy are all lies and the world is starting to relise that greeks are notnhing but gypsys.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Your mytholgy is from other and not from yourselfs,I dont understand how greeks can be pelasgians when it is fact that use went to war with them when your arrived just like the atlantis remind me about that war,you stupids shit,,,your history goes around in circles.just remember the barbarian you wrote about,,And IM STILL WAITING FOR THE TRANSLATION OF WHATI WROTE
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 ILL START AGIAN FOR YOU GREEKS ,CAN ANY GREEK TELL ME THIS MEANING,ANDHA-NO TER VERSI,TATA ATA PAR TI NI UK..CAN USE TELL ME.cOME YOU GREEKS SHOULD KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE IS LOL.you insult me but NONE of you can tell me these words,I CAN..lol i must be searching for ghosts..lolshitty greeks full of lies,,
ktm066 1 year ago
v=ujBAKo6NkJY watch this video,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066, However, since you seem to be filled with such nationalistic pride, how about you try convincing your fellow Albanians how great your country's legacy is. Maybe that way they wont illegally flood over our borders every day and contribute to our escalating crime rate. All of Greece would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, bye bye now.
apexmoto 1 year ago
@apexmoto LOL someone has to work in greece,,you greeks are large and dont work. you all sit at home and eat olives,If it were not for albanians your countrys would be up shit creek
ktm066 1 year ago
@apexmoto
Γαμησέτα. Αυτοί τα χουν παίξει τελείως. Του τα 'χωσα όμορφα όμως. Με τρόπο.
Τώρα το κατάλαβε ο καθυστερημένος.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763, σπαταλας το χρονο σου με αυτον τον ηλιθιο, φιλε.
@ktm066, Your arguments are skewed and irrelevant and your delivery is borderline incoherent. I can reasonably surmise from your 'education' that any logical discourse with you would be a complete waste of time. You claim to "search for truth", but I see no objective reasoning or logical deduction in any of your remarks. The comments section of a YT video isn't the forum for scientific debate though, is it?
apexmoto 1 year ago
Tell me the meaningfor TY ET..Greeks say the alphabet was in vented 4000yrs ago?This doesnt make sence because these words are Dated 6000bc old,So there is a space of 2000yrs between 4000bc and 6000bc,So this means the alphabet was created before what greeks say.Do you know these words,I do it is spoken in albanians everyday..ISnt this funny,do you know where these words were found in kosova.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 So how is this possible for albanians to have these words?Did we borrow these words from greeks?I dont think so because greeks dont have these words and if they do it wont be the same spelling to what it is,This is the same spelling of albanians,What about the lemnos stele that is very simular to albanians,VERY,What about apollonia A buriel of a young girl was found on a tomb stone on that stone is 100% albanian.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Why is that,there is much things albanian language explain that your greek doesnt,CAn you give me ANY LOGIC WHY PLEASE..also do you know the pelasgian word for sun is DIELLI.do you lnow what DIELLI means in albanian SUN..Why is that greek..geee when we came with turks we must have Drpped in thousnads of yrs ago with them.You greeks adopted it and changed it to HELI then added the o
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Ήλιος ( Helios ) in Greek.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
The word (θάλασσα) thalassa which means the sea, is Greek with Pelasgic origin.
Now, who is Pelasgic, the Greeks or the Albanians ?
Georgios763 1 year ago
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Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
Olympiada, as Alexander's mother had Greek name and her real name was Polyxeni, then when she got married her name was Myrtalis and then Olympiada and Stratoniki. All of these 4 names she had, are Greek.
That's why i 'm telling you that you hunt ghosts. The entire Balkan peninsula was Greek in the ancient times. Macedonians & Epirots were Greeks.
It's like you claim today that the Cypriots aren't Greeks.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
My friend, the Albanian language is unique among the European languages.
If you are Illyrians as you say, your vocabulary would contain more latin words as the latin language influenced in a high degree the rest European languages.
The truth you claim doesn't always say things that you like.
There never were '' Shqiptare '' in the ancient times.
The Illyrians were Hellenophones and they had also nothing to do with the Epirots.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 There never were '' Shqiptare '' in the ancient times.you are right and there were also never greece,,correct me if im wrong,I am northern albanian not lower,
ktm066 1 year ago
Most of the gheg albanians dilect is PIE do you know what that means,,,Some greeks belive the gheg dilect is greek witch is funny they call it gekes or some shit like that,,,Why is it that only albanians speak this language???You are silly you need to study gheg albanian,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 You still havnt told me what those words mean in greek?can you tell me..what about homeric do you know how to speak that???
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
The half latin vocabulary is Greek. You are more Greek than you think.
The Atheneans spoke Albanian dialect ? Hahaha be serious.
And if not Greeks aren't Pelasgians then it is the Albanians ?
Olympia was Molossian. Epirot. The kingdom of Molossians
was Greek as much as the Macedonian.
The Homeric dialect is used in our today vocabulary.
It is what the scientists call, evolution.
I didn't insult you, you did it. Alexander and all of his ancestors were Greeks.
You hunt ghosts.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 you did insult me you say my language is bulgarian and slavnic,,You are far from the truth,,Tell me greek if albanians borrowed from greek why is it the words you say we borrowed havnt been spoken for thousands of yrs How is this possible really Tell me how,,alexandra was half illyrian,I dont hunt ghosts i just hunt for the truth<Not everything is greek,If greeks were illyrians,thracian,macedonians,epiruts, dardanian,.Then where are the albanians in between all these people?
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 You greeks say albanians came with turks,Then tell me who were the turks fighting,You say we are from caucasus albania,this is also been proven we are not from the,Bulgarian you say our language is totally diffrent BUT execept bulgarian have many thracian And also albanians do to,But we dont share common words of thracian.So explain to me with out the bullshit who do you think albanians are??If we are NONE of these people like greeks say then who are albanian>?Are we a tribe of greeks>
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Or are we just another barbarian people just like the pelasgians?Albanians and greeks are the onlyone who share pelasgian,Tell me why this is?And as for athena yes they were mainly albanians speakers,even today they still speak alot of albanian and these people who speak albanians say they are greek?HOW,do you know what athena means in albanians?SPEECH,tell me what means in greeks as you have all meanings for greek words?And please tell me the meanings what i wrote below,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 You seem to be avoiding it?Is it so hard to belive that albanians alos stemed from the ancient people of balkans do you really belive greeks were the onlones in balkans???It is said very clear that there were others in balkans when you arrived,What about bosnian pyramids they are older than greece itself who were the people who built them?GREEKS.?
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Illyricum Greca.
There are 2 prospects about the Albanians.
1. You came from Asia with Attila
2. You germinated after Medieval.
These arguments are supported by the scientific society.
The Albanian ancestry although, is a very dark issue.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 haha you see you belive im turkish,HUNS,,Attila..lmao yes greek im turkish and i am a hun.lmao..show me these scientific facts,,germinated lmao..wow you take two things and say we may be from them lmao.yes we are from caspians see where ancient albania is,,,lol or am i hungarian.lmao.my langauuge is none of those looks like i germinated.lol
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
No you are Aryans. Hahahhaha an ambitious Albanian with ancient ancestry.
Hey ghost-buster, when you find the truth, hold your ball tight.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
You confused what i 've told. I thought at first you were Slav and not Albanian.
Read more carefully my comments.
Georgios763 1 year ago
you should know what thses words mean since you are from pelasgians???These are your so called ansecters...we must have adopted these words and hundreds and hundreds more from greek but when i dont know because these words havnt been spoken for thousands of yrs,BUT we still speak it isnt that funny that we do and greeks,bulgarians,macedonians,slavnic latin,NONE speak this why
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 LOL we must of got it from turks?Or maybe we even got from the aliens who came down and said here speak this language and put this in your language,Or even we got it from chinese or japanese,what you think..When albanian language was first translated into alphabet big suprise is that many what was translated was ancient words from balkans MANY MANY PIE,HOW come dorians had no rights in greece?\you greeks are full of shit it just hurts use that albanians and the world are waking up to use
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
You are frustrated like others of your kind. You suddenly discovered your ancestries after 4000 years and all of you try to convince the entire world that the Greeks .... weren't Greeks.
How serious can a man be by claiming such things ?!
Both of Albanians and SlavoBulgarians, you are frustrated people and if Greeks are full of shit as you say, then you are like flies who eat this kind of shit.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 ZGreek albanians and greeks were the only 2 people who are from balkans this is facts from Linguist around the world,we both are the only 2 countrys in the world who share the same dna,I am not full of shit you greeks insult albanians because use dam right know who is old,and it is fact that greeks are not pelasgian this is told by all your ancient writiers if uyou deside to change your mine of what they say then so be it,BUT remember there were people here before hellens arrived,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
You think that the Greeks were only the Atheneans and the Spartans.
This is false. In Greece there been found the oldest human and the oldest epigraphs. Well it is obvious that these things aren't Albanian or Bulgarian.
Well, if you are a realist, you would notice that your people didn't contribute anything to civilization, not even as individuals.
You are very ambitious but hold a small basket.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 my people didn't contribute anything to civilization, not even as individuals.How do you know that they didnt ,The population thousands of yrs ago in athena spoke albanians dilect,,How do you know we didnt create much things we created the fustenella witch you stole and now say it is 100% greek,,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I 'm pretty sure that you aren't Pelasgians neither Illyrians.
Alexander, the Greatest of the Greeks and not just great as you are misinformed, spread Hellenism. Not Shqiptarism or Macedonism or Pelasgism or Epirotism or Slavism or Bulgarism or Skopjanism.
He spread Hellenism. We may communicate with the modern lingua franca '' english '' but we put first our countries and our civilizations.
Take a look at the modern epigraph of Alexandria's library. What do you see ?
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 aleandras mother was illyrian,You greeks are not illyrian,If albanians are not illyrians then where did there illyiran go,,albanian language has more none borrowed words than borrowed and there is much illyirian in our language citys states even kings queens,,why do no greek has this,The only 2 people in balkans was greeks and albanian no slavnic shits,
ktm066 1 year ago
I am in australia because my family killed to many serbians,,way to many,
ktm066 1 year ago
alexandra spoke Gheg albanian dilect,,He was a macedonian albanian,,He was not greek at all.Macedonians and albanians are from the same stock.any greek who thinks alexandra was greek is a fool..
ktm066 1 year ago
actually that is rosetass stone when you write anicent macedonia on google images there is an image with rosetass stone and when you write anicent macedonian language 94% of the pictures are with rosetass stone
so what's your next propaganda?
mkd12345678 1 year ago
@mkd12345678 rosetass stone had the greek language(language of macedonia) and egyptian
shitbomp 1 year ago
Ἔστι μὲν οὖν Ἑλλὰς καὶ ἡ Μακεδονία.
Στράβων 63 Π.Χ - 23 Μ.Χ.
Macedonia is also Greece.
There was never found a document that proves a Macedonian non Greek language.
All documents are written in Greek.
Macedonians were Dorians.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 And there is no proof that he was greek?What inscriptions
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Well, if you learn to read, you 'll find out that he was Greek.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 I know how to read,he was never greek.IF he is greek why did his father destroy greece,And why didnt he destory epirus but only greece,why did he have a alliance with illyrians and epirus and not greek.why did he wear ancient scull cap that is worn by albanians and macedonians,,...
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Repeat after me
Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea:
[...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
[Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt)]
Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
"Alexanders ancestry went back to Heracles on his fathers side, while through his mother he was related to the Aeacids."
[Diodorus Siculus 17.1.5]
Georgios763 1 year ago
@ktm066
"No king of the Hellenes had ever conquered Egypt with the exception only of Alexander, and that he did without war"
[Callisthenes of Olynthus 2.4.7-8; Oration of Demosthenes]
I 'm leaving you now. See you tomorrow.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 repeat after me,Leka I Madh...? Alexander’s mother Olympia was an Epirote Princess. We also know that Philips’ mother Eurydice was Illyrian,The question however is whether the Macedonian ruling house was of Greek or Illyrian descent? WHAT Does EMATHIA mean in greek??and while you are on the subject of what alexandra and other spoke,Now i will show you his forfather language,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Alexander asks if Philotas will speak in the language of their fathers,
"... Macedones ... de te indicaturi sunt, quero an patrio sermone sis apud eos usurus," "... the Macedonians who will judge you, I ask if you will use the language of [our] fathers with them," The response: "Praeter Macedonas ... plerique adsunt, quos facilius quae dicam percep-turus arbitror, si eadem lingua fuero usus qua tu egisti, non ob aliud, credo quam ut oratio tua intellegi posset a pluribus," "
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Above and] beyond the Macedonians ... there are many present whom, I feel, will more easily grasp the things I say if I use the same language you did, for no other reason, I believe, than that your speech might be understood by many."
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Greek was for the classical world the international language of trade, as English is in modern times, and the elite Macedonians as well as the elite Illyrians spoke it but Alexander and the rest of Macedonians could not help but feel offended when Philotas, one of their own, addressed them in a tongue different from that of their fathers. The language of Macedonians was the “barbarian - Pelasgic” tongue, spoken by the Illyrians of Epirus (Toscans) and Illyria (
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 (Gegenes - Homeric Hymns) and Plutarch indirectly proves it, when he says that young Alexander retired in Illyria after the quarrel with Philip:
ktm066 1 year ago