@MegaFinalFantasy7 lmaooo, omg, few things can actually SCARE me, i can easily spook, i can be startled, but not much scares me XD....DG soldiers popping up out of no wher in real life.....i'd be scared shitless.....XD, but if it was a Tsviet....i'd probably die from fear alone XD
@ShigekiHizashi awww lol i always loved to do stuff like that its kinda like tenchu i wanna do a.k.a ninja mission but without the naruto shit init :D
Cloud is considered to be weak by the creators only when his confidence is low. Tifa sort of mentioned this when comparing how they found their strength in FF7. Also Cloud left all of his Materia in the Church of Sector 5 Slums for some unknown reason. Which explains why he did not have any of the powers he had in FF7.
Weiss is cool visually and very skilled,but no Cloud would beat the hell of any final fantasy foe or villain in the entire saga.(kadaj,weiss,necro,kuja ,etc just would lose)
Sephiroth pwns anyone, and cloud pwned seph. PLus, the only reason Rosso and Azul lost so easily to Weiss was because they had to play the part to kill the restrictor
Sephiroth didn't "pwn" quite a few people, Vincent among them. I'd go as far as saying that the only reason Vincent could lose in a fight against Sephiroth is due to the player's lack of skill with him.
Also, Rosso and Azul legitimately lost against Weiss. Check Azul's dialogue in Before Crisis: He wouldn't purposefully lose against anyone because that's just against his nature. And Rosso is too Ax-Crazy to want to lose against him.
Remember that the world of FF7 was created around Sephiroth being THEE villain! What's also interesting is the fact that Vincent beat Wiess 1 on 1. It took Cloud, Vincent, Red 13, Cid, Barret, Tifa, Cait Saith, and Yuffie to take down Sephiroth. See the logic? Cloud is the only character in the FF7 universe to take down Sephiroth 3 times single handedly. Only a very determined and confident Cloud can stand a chance against Sephiroth. If not, Cloud loses.
The Sephiroth and Cloud in Advent Children did not have the same power they did in Final fantasy 7. They were weaker. In advent Children it was Kadaj w/Jenova cells that tranformed him into a weaker version of the real Sephiroth. Not the original Sephiroth.
It's a logic thing. Consider the fact that, in Crisis Core, Genesis very nearly beat Sephiroth IN TRAINING (If Angeal hadn't interfered, I have the utmost confidence Genesis would have won). Genesis' genes are spliced with the genes of the Tsviets a little while after Crisis Core, hence Weiss has Genesis' power. Along with Weiss' own power (pure mako power, in case that was a subject of debate), Sephiroth has no chance.
I don't what you saw in that fight but it was clear Genesis could not hurt or touch Sephiroth in that exercise. Not even close. Imagine years later when Sephiroth's power becomes even much greater. Zack beat Genesis easier than Angeal. But Zack lost to Sephiroth. Square Enix considers Sephiroth their greatest villain ever. Everything I just stated is FACTS not opinion. Don't let your love for a character blind you to facts.
Remember that the world of FF7 was created around Sephiroth being THEE villain. All others are just runner-ups. What's also interesting is the fact that Vincent beat Wiess 1 on 1. It took Vincent, Cloud, Red 13, Cid, Barret, Tifa, and Yuffie to take down Sephiroth. See the logic?
Sephiroth is the greatest villain of all time in video games. Thats a fact. Weiss and all of Deepground put together can not even hope to match him in terms of skill or power. It took Cloud, Vincent, and the rest of Avalanche to beat Sephiroth. It took just Vincent. to beat Wiess. There is no comparing.
its evil because they are with the SOLDIER evolution its called Deepground and the enemy of WRO World Regenesis Organization the evolution of AVALANCE umm wrong spelling or not?
Cloud barely beat back Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete and Weiss can take on Bloodburst Rosso and Arch Azul simultaneously while holding back. Clod would get raped. >.>
I don't see how he barely beat Sephiroth in ACC. He won didn't he? its not like he lost a limb or was limping at the end he had barely any wounds (besides the huge stab) and he was still standing when he won. I think somewhere it said that Sephiroth was the strongest member of SOLDIER. Deepground was once part of Soldier so if Cloud could beat Sephiroth he could beat about anybody, in the FFVII universe.
Um... Cloud was bleeding to death? Barely? He was squewred a couple of times in mid airg and was barely able to stand until he got that last minute encouragement from Zack. He was bleeding all over the place and he wounds everywhere. He did win, but barely. Cloud he took Sephiroth off guard while Sephiroth was fooling around and trying to torture him. Cloud is stated to be a weak character. Normura said so himself. That's why Cloud barely stand without encouragement.
Cloud got shot, cloud got stabbed BEFORE he got mako, and he was fine. the only person to atcually Bleed to death was Zack, who got shot like a million times so w/e. Then he got shot after the battle and was able to run and jump attack its not like he was limping. and if DG > SOLDIER than that would mean that they could pwn sephiroth which when i mean before AC. when he could become safer sephiroth and use Super Nova.
Yeah, that still doesn't mean that he wasn't dying or severely injured. And Cloud was limping, he was in pain and he ran while dragging his sword. IT was basically a final attack.
And Super Nova? His Limit break? So what about it? Just because he has a limit break doesn't mean he can spam it. Plot>game play. DG SOLDIER is cannoically stronger than regulars. That doesn't mean everyone in DG could beat Sephiroth, it just means they're stronger already. AC Sephiroth>Weiss>Sephiroth.
@KuichikiByakuya i say Loz and Yazoo would own them al. because they actually did kill Cloud. (i hope you realize that by now most of my comments are impartial, as i prefer to state evidence for all sides and i meant nothing but a joke by that last comment)
oh Weiss y u so sxccc??!! xD
unitedjt345 1 month ago
i would love to see wiess vs Sephiroth!
MegaFinalFantasy7 2 years ago
@MegaFinalFantasy7 Weiss would kick his ass XD but interesting fight none the less
ShigekiHizashi 1 year ago
@ShigekiHizashi init ill love to see it haha, man i sound like a boi xD
MegaFinalFantasy7 1 year ago
@MegaFinalFantasy7 lmaooo, omg, few things can actually SCARE me, i can easily spook, i can be startled, but not much scares me XD....DG soldiers popping up out of no wher in real life.....i'd be scared shitless.....XD, but if it was a Tsviet....i'd probably die from fear alone XD
ShigekiHizashi 1 year ago
@ShigekiHizashi awww lol i always loved to do stuff like that its kinda like tenchu i wanna do a.k.a ninja mission but without the naruto shit init :D
MegaFinalFantasy7 1 year ago
@MegaFinalFantasy7 lmao
ShigekiHizashi 1 year ago
Cloud is considered to be weak by the creators only when his confidence is low. Tifa sort of mentioned this when comparing how they found their strength in FF7. Also Cloud left all of his Materia in the Church of Sector 5 Slums for some unknown reason. Which explains why he did not have any of the powers he had in FF7.
3124avechino 2 years ago
Weiss is cool visually and very skilled,but no Cloud would beat the hell of any final fantasy foe or villain in the entire saga.(kadaj,weiss,necro,kuja ,etc just would lose)
Rose4Triandafyllos 2 years ago
-No.
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
yeah
3124avechino 2 years ago
@Rose4Triandafyllos That is a bit of a stretch.
sifsclubber 1 year ago
Sephiroth pwns anyone, and cloud pwned seph. PLus, the only reason Rosso and Azul lost so easily to Weiss was because they had to play the part to kill the restrictor
Solidiquis 2 years ago
Sephiroth didn't "pwn" quite a few people, Vincent among them. I'd go as far as saying that the only reason Vincent could lose in a fight against Sephiroth is due to the player's lack of skill with him.
Also, Rosso and Azul legitimately lost against Weiss. Check Azul's dialogue in Before Crisis: He wouldn't purposefully lose against anyone because that's just against his nature. And Rosso is too Ax-Crazy to want to lose against him.
ShiningSugar14 2 years ago
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3124avechino 2 years ago
Remember that the world of FF7 was created around Sephiroth being THEE villain! What's also interesting is the fact that Vincent beat Wiess 1 on 1. It took Cloud, Vincent, Red 13, Cid, Barret, Tifa, Cait Saith, and Yuffie to take down Sephiroth. See the logic? Cloud is the only character in the FF7 universe to take down Sephiroth 3 times single handedly. Only a very determined and confident Cloud can stand a chance against Sephiroth. If not, Cloud loses.
3124avechino 2 years ago
@3124avechino Well, he did kind of need Zack's help in Advent Children Complete. and catch him off guard in Crisis Core.
sifsclubber 1 year ago
@3124avechino Vincent was only able to beat Weiss thanks to Chaos, without Chaos, Vincent is nothing compared to Weiss
ShigekiHizashi 1 year ago
@3124avechino
yeah but he still pwned sephiroth.
Rose4Triandafyllos 1 year ago
@Rose4Triandafyllos:
If you are saying Cloud owned Sephiroth, that is true. No one but Cloud has ever beaten Sephiroth.
3124avechino 1 year ago
The Sephiroth and Cloud in Advent Children did not have the same power they did in Final fantasy 7. They were weaker. In advent Children it was Kadaj w/Jenova cells that tranformed him into a weaker version of the real Sephiroth. Not the original Sephiroth.
3124avechino 2 years ago
He was NOT a weaker Sephiroth. It is explicitly stated that Advent Sephiroth is stronger.
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
Where is it "explicitly" stated?
3124avechino 2 years ago
By Nomura...
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
Where can I read or hear this for myself. Until then, I don't believe.
3124avechino 2 years ago
It's a logic thing. Consider the fact that, in Crisis Core, Genesis very nearly beat Sephiroth IN TRAINING (If Angeal hadn't interfered, I have the utmost confidence Genesis would have won). Genesis' genes are spliced with the genes of the Tsviets a little while after Crisis Core, hence Weiss has Genesis' power. Along with Weiss' own power (pure mako power, in case that was a subject of debate), Sephiroth has no chance.
ShiningSugar14 2 years ago
I don't what you saw in that fight but it was clear Genesis could not hurt or touch Sephiroth in that exercise. Not even close. Imagine years later when Sephiroth's power becomes even much greater. Zack beat Genesis easier than Angeal. But Zack lost to Sephiroth. Square Enix considers Sephiroth their greatest villain ever. Everything I just stated is FACTS not opinion. Don't let your love for a character blind you to facts.
3124avechino 2 years ago
@3124avechino Even Shanttotto respects Sephiroth.
sifsclubber 1 year ago
Remember that the world of FF7 was created around Sephiroth being THEE villain. All others are just runner-ups. What's also interesting is the fact that Vincent beat Wiess 1 on 1. It took Vincent, Cloud, Red 13, Cid, Barret, Tifa, and Yuffie to take down Sephiroth. See the logic?
3124avechino 2 years ago
@ShiningSugar14 I wont take sides here, but there's always a chance. when it comes to Seph that is. but i would like to see that fight.
sifsclubber 1 year ago
Sephiroth is the greatest villain of all time in video games. Thats a fact. Weiss and all of Deepground put together can not even hope to match him in terms of skill or power. It took Cloud, Vincent, and the rest of Avalanche to beat Sephiroth. It took just Vincent. to beat Wiess. There is no comparing.
3124avechino 2 years ago
Vincent could think coherently and wasn't possessed by Hojo OR Omega... Vincent cannot take down Rosso and Azul simultaneously either...
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
@3124avechino He was Chaos form Vincent fighting Weiss
sifsclubber 1 year ago
if you get the japanese version is there an option for english subs????
WhiteAngelArtemis 2 years ago
the final fantasy 7 is the only have a big big story
the others... naaah
screamtogether 3 years ago
ONE QUESTION!
is Rosso and Azul not evil in this game O_o
i don`t understand, cause in the dirge of cerberus i have they are evil..
Shelkentine 3 years ago
its evil because they are with the SOLDIER evolution its called Deepground and the enemy of WRO World Regenesis Organization the evolution of AVALANCE umm wrong spelling or not?
jamalangmalakas 2 years ago
Cloud would totaly kick his ass.
KuichikiByakuya 4 years ago
I dun't think so
kaihedgie 2 years ago
Cloud barely beat back Sephiroth in Advent Children Complete and Weiss can take on Bloodburst Rosso and Arch Azul simultaneously while holding back. Clod would get raped. >.>
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
I don't see how he barely beat Sephiroth in ACC. He won didn't he? its not like he lost a limb or was limping at the end he had barely any wounds (besides the huge stab) and he was still standing when he won. I think somewhere it said that Sephiroth was the strongest member of SOLDIER. Deepground was once part of Soldier so if Cloud could beat Sephiroth he could beat about anybody, in the FFVII universe.
KuichikiByakuya 2 years ago
Um... Cloud was bleeding to death? Barely? He was squewred a couple of times in mid airg and was barely able to stand until he got that last minute encouragement from Zack. He was bleeding all over the place and he wounds everywhere. He did win, but barely. Cloud he took Sephiroth off guard while Sephiroth was fooling around and trying to torture him. Cloud is stated to be a weak character. Normura said so himself. That's why Cloud barely stand without encouragement.
And DG SOLDIER>SOLDIER
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
Cloud got shot, cloud got stabbed BEFORE he got mako, and he was fine. the only person to atcually Bleed to death was Zack, who got shot like a million times so w/e. Then he got shot after the battle and was able to run and jump attack its not like he was limping. and if DG > SOLDIER than that would mean that they could pwn sephiroth which when i mean before AC. when he could become safer sephiroth and use Super Nova.
KuichikiByakuya 2 years ago
Yeah, that still doesn't mean that he wasn't dying or severely injured. And Cloud was limping, he was in pain and he ran while dragging his sword. IT was basically a final attack.
And Super Nova? His Limit break? So what about it? Just because he has a limit break doesn't mean he can spam it. Plot>game play. DG SOLDIER is cannoically stronger than regulars. That doesn't mean everyone in DG could beat Sephiroth, it just means they're stronger already. AC Sephiroth>Weiss>Sephiroth.
Chris2Hikari 2 years ago
@KuichikiByakuya i say Loz and Yazoo would own them al. because they actually did kill Cloud. (i hope you realize that by now most of my comments are impartial, as i prefer to state evidence for all sides and i meant nothing but a joke by that last comment)
sifsclubber 1 year ago
Weiss: "I shall revenge for you." "Today's increment is more than usual..."
Restrictor: "Hn, that's because there is a decrease in the number of people who can become Tsviets."
"As for your experiment, I've already got it prepared..."
"As you wish, a handicapped match against fellow Tsviets:"
Shelke: "You have the memories of the past before you came here, haven't you?"
"The man over there, you remember him?"
dmdSs 4 years ago 3
Shalua: "Onee-chan, if you become a Soldier, then you can protect us, right?"
"Onee-chan!!!"
"Onee-chan... ... it hurts... ...help me... ... Onee-chan!"
Shelke: "Have you regained your memories?"
"In order to collect all the materials, Restrictor admitted all the rights."
"Don't you have something that was taken away from you, before you came here?"
Weiss: "Relax, give me a break."
"Mwahaha ... eat this, Rosso."
"Come, show me what you got! I have yet to warm up."
Rosso: "WEISS!"
dmdSs 4 years ago 3
Weiss: "Come, and humor me"
(battle scene)
Weiss: "haha. What's going on? Are you guys sweating now?"
Usher: "With strength as strong as Weiss, they are still no match for Restrictor"
"That's because it has nothing to do with their strength, but restriction
that has been put onto all the Deepground SOLDIERs."
"They all have a chip implnted to their brainstem, when they were taken here."
"And that causes them unable to stand up against any orders given by Restrictor"
...
dmdSs 4 years ago
Usher: "But you? You can stand up against him, to pull his leg and aim a gun at him."
"Carry it out. And go with the flow of your emotions..."
"When you have Argento's permission, come back here, Afterwards, do what must
be done."
dmdSs 4 years ago
why is this guy keep poping up
easystreet2014 4 years ago
Hail Weiss!
SOLDIERis1337 4 years ago
...Great.... Now all I have to do is learn how to speak Japanese, & I'm set.
TheTrueTardzilla 4 years ago
haha, i know the feeling all too well
Martyisonfire 4 years ago