How to Use Chains & Binders

[hickrystyk]

Actually for chains, the should be wrapped around the dowel ,not the rubrail or stake pocket

[cdehart26]

Im pretty sure this is just a demonstration, you idiots!!!!!!

[nd318865]

Also, try twisting each strap on tall loads to minimize wind caused flapping and possible damage to cartons or insulation loads.

Dry lumber can often be kept from sliding out of units of untarped product, by laying a 4X4X4 "diagonally" between unit and strap. ie (under strap) try it, it works. As in one under strap on left top rear bundle, and another under right rear top bundles strap. Pretty much guarantee that load of dry pine will not grow longer as you run down the highway, bouncing along.

[nd318865]

He was trying to be helpful?

My turn.

The bar is the most dangerous item on the truck in that there are so many ways to hurt yourself while using it if you don't think ahead. Never pull it towards your body. Don't hang off the side of the trailer trying to tighten the chain binder! Don't stand above the bar pushing down towards binder when you might loose your balance as it closes falling off the trailer in the process.

Guys and ladies, think ahead. The bar's the most dangerous part of truck

[inilledra]

TURN THE SKIDS IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do they let guys like this do a TRAINING VIDEO???

[creamyfilling102]

chains to strap down mulch/wood chips/fertilizer/soil or whatever that is,,,no. you do not use chains on those.

[inilledra]

@creamyfilling102 You are correct. YOU NEVER USE CHAINS ON A BAG LOAD.

THIS IS PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[jesjr2001]

At what point in time did this dood figure he would show us the "correct way to use grade 70 chains". Now, I'm just a dumb truck driver, but I can't tell you the last time I strapped down a load of mulch or potting soil.

And his tarp videos are just dumb. "No one man can lift that tarp himself".....HA.....I bet ever flatbedder can tell you the story of the asshole forklift guy that wouldn't put his tarps on top for him.....:)

[MrTattdude]

anyone in Melbourne Australia that would be interested in showing me/teaching me this in person?

[nd318865]

@MrTattdude Check my post re myteeusa posted two years ago... on utube. How to use chains and binders:

Ask me anything you'd like to know and we'll see if my 4+ decades of flat bed experience can help.

[inilledra]

@nd318865 I hope you and I do things the same way. I have 35+ yrs. with Flatbeds........ I would never use a chain or binder on BAG LOAD.

[cdlmn63]

Never Never put a strap hook on the outter part of a rub rail always put then on the inside facing in, if you need to put them through before the load is placed this guy is showing you how to get stopped at the bird house for sure

[studpuppy69]

@cdlmn63 Explain why you would get stopped please.

[nd318865]

@studpuppy69 California tried making "us" truckers keep the strap inside area between trailer edge and rub rail a few years back, when federal rules, FMCSA took over. Slipping strap through that gap, then through winch then back up through gap and finally folding strap and cinching it inside itself and tucking under load was a lot more trouble day in day out, than just going outside rub rail. They relented as there was no REAL benefit to this new, government approved way!

[inilledra]

@nd318865 Putting the strap INSIDE the RUB RAIL Protects the Strap in case the trailer is involved in a wreck where the trailer is turned onto its side...........

That is the ONLY REASON for the Chains and STRAPS to be put INSIDE the RUB RAIL. That is WHY they call it a RUB RAIL....................

[nd318865]

@cdlmn63 Try to use your chain hook in such a way that it would have to rip the MOST metal, away from the trailer in the event of an accident or roil over. That usually means down, under and up and around stake pocket, not touching rub rail at all. Hook end of chain into other side of stake pocket.

[nd318865]

Drivers, find a way to have the greatest amount of chain in contact with the greatest amount of weld. Drop it in front of, then underneath and then back up along the rear of the stake pockets. Not just around the rub rail or lower lip on the edge rail.

Remember the winch bar is the most dangerous item on that truck.

[inilledra]

@nd318865 This guy does not know what he is doing. PERIOD.

The only thing you will learn from him is HOW NOT TO DO THIS WORK.

[KENWORTH8470]

@inilledra yeah ok buddy u try 1 weck and if u are a trucker than u shold not be tlking.

[inilledra]

@KENWORTH8470 YOU don't use chains on a bag load. STRAPS.... and even the straps are not meant to be tightened too much. The vibration of the trailer going down the road is going to make the bags settle anyway. The straps are only there to satisfy your local law enforcement that your load is (supposedly secure).

[inilledra]

@nd318865 Why would you say that a winch bar is the most dangerous item on the truck??

[randyr118]

NEVER seen anyone chain down a load of bagged fertilizer before....learn something new everyday.

[StayingBack71]

@randyr118 

[inilledra]

@randyr118 YOU LEARNED THAT THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT. YOU NEVER USE CHAINS on a BAG LOAD and NEVER run straps on the outside of a RUB RAIL.

This guy is a fucking rookie and should NOT BE MAKING TRAINING VIDEOS.

[nd318865]

@inilledra Now inilledra, be nice bud.

It's like always helping the guy ahead of you roll up their tarps: it is always appreciated even though he/ she may not have the sense to thank you.

Your thanks comes in getting your turn sooner.

[inilledra]

@nd318865 I have no idea what you are talking about. Rolling a tarp correctly does not take two people. Putting Chain Binders and chains on a BAG LOAD is just incorrect. There is no jusifying it. YOU don't put GASOLINE in a DIESEL engine, either. What is there to wonder about?????????? Learn how to do things correctly before you TRAIN someone else how to do the TASK!!

[nd318865]

@randyr118 It meets federal requirements but surely is the hard way to accomplish securing the load.

[inilledra]

@randyr118 That is because YOU DON"T DO THAT....... YOU never use chains on any bag load...........This guy has no business putting up training videos.

[johndeere370]

I'm not an expert, but I believe it is actually illegal to put straps on the OUTSIDE of the rubrail. Also, it's my understanding that the chains SHOULD be attached to the pocket because the pocket is a lot stronger than the rubrail. So, basically, I'm saying that I'd be careful about listening to the advice given here.

[nd318865]

@johndeere370 Not any more. That's been repealed.

[inbdusfor20yrs]

Stupid question, but if you have straps already securing the load, why do you need chains as well?

[nd318865]

@inbdusfor20yrs He was trying to just show you how to use a chain and binder.

2 points I'll offer.

1) Never pull bar towards yourself, as above, One slip and you can be on the ground unconscious Or worse!

2) Screw type binders are for heavy haul or equipment use and really not meant for everyday flat beddin'.

[inilledra]

@nd318865 You don't use binders on any kind of BAG LOAD. Pure foolishness and a classic point of someone who does not know what they are doing. Simple as that.

[Goregoon]

You forgot to mention how to secure the handle on that bear claw (lever binder) I will usually the extra chain (if any), multi rapped around the end of the handle and around the base, then secured with a bungie. Keeps them from kicking out and is required by law. They also have a pin clamp designed specifically for this purpose.

For the ratchet binders... If you grease the threads and ratchet you won't have it fighting you like it did. Though it did look new outa the wraps) Nice vid tho, thnx

[SuperSmilinjack]

thaink you for taking the time to put that on u tub vey helpfull good ideas