Star Wars Vs. Star Trek

[RPD49]

SW has got special effect . Star trek Has got soul and technology

[catman621]

by definition DV is a borg

[Velocity9s]

I have to agree with Masere: Since most of you use EVERY character form both ST & SW, the 'Q', the Doud(destroyed all the Hoosnock race everywhere with a thought), the Metrons & various other nearly omnipotant races, could eradicate those with the power of the Force with but a thought. If you honest, you'll agree.

[BattleshipAgincourt]

I absolutely can't stand all this SW is better than ST shit. What about Battlestar Galactica? Firefly?

I like all these, although I still think SW in itself is like a cheat... there's absolutely nothing about in its own universe that it compares against the one we live in. At least Star Trek went to the effort of at least making realistic figures in its technology, whereas Star Wars uses hypermatter and ion power!

[tzasas1]

Star trek for ever.

I know no one knows the real qualities of star trek, it's not a war story. But- as you can see while vader is doing his usual shit, the borg assimilated him three times, while star destroyers try to damage voyager shields one per cent, they were destroyed by phasers, transphases torpedos. While a lightsaber( that couldn't logical exist because of the basic physics), a phaser won thosand times before. Ok nothing against star wars, but it's unrealistic, a baby go to bed story

[ISSFIPhoenix]

Star Trek wins

[Perion]

@ISSFIPhoenix Star Trek loses (fixed again)

[Idazmi7]

@Perion Star Trek wins, for very many reasons: in and out of Canon

[comicbookfan19]

startrek wins vader is a badass but the borg would keep coming he would never be able to out last them.

[Perion]

@comicbookfan19 Actually the Borg have a finite number of ships, and a single Star Destroyer has the firepower to obliterate entire fleets of cubes on it's own without difficulty.

[CherryONeil]

3po walks like the old guy that lives down the street from me.

ssshhh, trying to escape from vader but we got caught because r2 was beeping, blinking, spinning in circles and screaming...

[CherryONeil]

Data over c3po. 3 po bitches too much. I'd have to take out his battery. 3po, SHUT THE FUCK UP, PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[masere]

Only Jedi's and Sith have powers in SW universe. Trek has numerous, the ultimate is Q, who can obliterate all Jedi's and Sith with just one click of his fingers.

The Death Star is the only piece of SW tech. capable of destroying planets. Trek's Genesis device, Soren's probe, Red Matter are capable of either destroying planets or solar systems, and are a lot smaller! Add in transporter, cloaking, replication and time travel technology and Trek wins. No shame in coming second SW!

[StelarCF]

@agentlazer Disagreed.

Dot

Period

Times 10000

[2misterA]

fail video

[padawanstarwars]

homo trek sucks star wars rules see simpple

[Jayrbf13]

One Star Destroyer would elimiante the entire Star Fleet and in all thos battles would obtain ever bit of techology they had to offer and military stratigies and making the overall battle one Specatular victore for the Empire. Star Wars kicks Star Trek' ass everyday of the week.

[Delta2357]

@Jayrbf13 youre so right

[Legovampire556]

@Jayrbf13 and Star Wars is so popular it has Video games,Its own TV show (The colne wars),A wikipedia (Wookiepidea),A LEGO theme,Action figures,Toy lightsabers,and in the Future it's likley that we are going to make ships from Star Wars. Like if alien forces were to attack a Death Star would be handy. So STAR WARS is superior to star trek (is for losers).

[RPD49]

STAR TREK IS THE BEST SF FILM IN HISTORY

[Legovampire556]

@RPD49 No way Star Wars is AWSOMER! Does star trek even have it's own Wikipidea?

[resdsox1]

Star wars kicks Star Trek's ass

[TrekkerMan1701]

No one will will because they are both repelled from your video

[StarwarsmadTJ]

waist of time

[dynasty11211]

First off, its voyager not voyger and secondly, why did you show a picture of a galaxy class star ship most probably the USS Enterprise D when voyager is an intrepid class star ship and looks nothing compared to a galaxy class. The fight between data and C3PO is unfair. Data would win in any fight, he has ten times the strength of human, can do millions of calculations per second, and remembers everything.

[onlypeaceindeath]

@dynasty11211 C3PO is more likley to have far more memory storage and computer power then Data. But it would be no contest if they would fight each other since C3PO is no combat model.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath C3PO has bad servomotors

[pat1981lux]

what's the name of the song?

[aneeko]

@pat1981lux Lux Aeterna from Requim for a dream.

[TheApatheticGuy]

To quote Windows, "Darth Vader could put the entire Borg collective in a vice grip with his mind."

[LT1HILLINGHOE]

LOL....this is funny. You got people in here talking about which ship could beat which ship.....which characters could beat which characters and so on. LOL.....people this is make believe you know!!!!

All I know is that in Star Trek's universe Kirk gets all the booty and beats the crap out of everyone. In Star Wars universe, no one gets booty and no one whoops ass. Plus, what's up with all those helmets?

Captain Kirk and that Enterprise Booty Wagon for the win, baby!!!!!!!!!! LOLOL

[ProtoCosmos]

@LT1HILLINGHOE The original Star Trek trumps all ! Though the original Star Wars was a milestone too.

[PopVsMetalMusic101]

its voyager not voyger

[mitykc]

what song is this cuz i love it

[StelarCF]

@mitykc the song is ALL OVER THE PLACE

[darthkiller14]

lol c-3po is a protical droid why compare to shitty star trek hes fluent in over six million forms of communication

[StelarCF]

@darthkiller14 protocol first of all. Second of all Star Trek is much better, it's not just pew pew pew boom, it's pew trimp *uses IDK envirement(I know I know fail :( )* boom! and it isn't about fighting and fighting and...fighting.... it's also about exploration. And also Star Trek is NOT as evolved as Star Wars in Technology. Like in Star Trek they were barely exploring the universe. In Star Wars they were already a big happy dang empire... with no klingons in it, nor romulans, nor std Cloak

[Legovampire556]

@StelarCF YOU DON'T GET IT! Star Wars is NOT about just fighting,it also has some Love-like scenes like on Star Wars episode 2 and it has some exploration and star wars doesn't take place in the Future,It's A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away. Also does star trek even Have any video games,toys,A LEGO theme,A wikipedia,and most of all does it even have any Fans who accutaly Like it? What I am saying is, STAR WARS IS WAY SUPERIOR TO star trek.

[StelarCF]

@Legovampire556 Fighting is always acompanied by "Love-like scenes"...

Also I don't believe exploration is more than finding some rocks and call them dynamite... unless you talk about noncanon books, which I consider irelevant. Power is irelevant.

[ConnorDGriffin]

@Legovampire556

You mean wookiepedia, there's a star trek equivalent, Memory Alpha, it also does have video games toys and many fans who like it, and i disagree, they are both equally epic franchises, wether or not the empire would destroy the federation in 5 minutes or wether kirk could one shot the death star have no affect on this fact.

[agentlazer]

@StelarCF Star Wars is a superior fighting force that appeals to all scifiers', gosips, romance lovers, and all other genres co-existing among each other. I for one agree with legovampire556, star wars is not just about fighting, it has romance, and an unbeleivable amount of exploration in it. Star Wars has an absolutly enormous fan base, 2 tv seireses 200+ video games, and soon to be 9 movies in the star wars saga. DO YOUR FREAKIN' REASEARCH!!!!!!!

[StelarCF]

@agentlazer Do your freakin' research, the 200+ video games aren't canon

Also sorry if I disapoint you by not seeing how romance is so distinct from our brutal ancestry of fighting and trying to impress women like that

Also exploration?Unbelievable Amount? I think I am dreaming... is it in the TV series? No? If it is then noncanon->not concerned. if in the movies...

I wish to have some video pointers pls

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF Star Wars games are canon, but not the game mechanics like damage values, hit points and stuff like that. Or that is how I understand it anyway.

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath [insert franchise name here] games are not considered canon

neither are most books

[onlypeaceindeath]

@StelarCF C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. (Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be; they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character).

[StelarCF]

@onlypeaceindeath Wasn't very aware of C-Canon... thanks for the intro into

I understand now, although any video pointers to some exploration in Star Wars?

[mitykc]

Star Destroyer could tottaly destroy the star trek ship

[darthkiller14]

indeed my brother indded

[secretaprentice11]

star wars

[mamapa952]

i think star wars because star wars is bigger(more ships) than star trek

[GermanBrother93]

When it your video says " Star Destroyer vs. 'Voyger' ", I think that you mean VOYAGER, and the picture you posted, that was the ENTERPRISE-D!!!

AND

Picard is wearing the uniform from the Enterprise-E!!!

AND

Those aren't even Phasers!!

Data wins ANY DAY!

OK, you have me with General Grievious,

but thats due to the fact that IT isn't human.

[Kuntipac]

@GermanBrother93 neither is DATA

[mynamespitt]

Wow...... total crap.... do not watch.......there's a reason for the low rating...... i cldnt make it past 25 secs, even with my 3 year old.........

[starwarsIIIrules]

star wars is the best!

[Swordoforion101]

Star TREK IDIOT. Phasers are more powerful

[GermanBrother93]

Yes they are!

[Swordoforion101]

thanks man i love the phasers 2

[darthkiller14]

lol fucking kirk loving spock suckers the lightsaber is not even compareable to the shitty phaser the lightsaber can bloack any laser beam or blaster and send it back plus cut anything!!!

[vaderx360]

whats this song?

[AceClone]

Requiem for a dream

[STLegacy]

Isn't the ship at 1:08 a Galaxy class ship? Voyager is an Intrepid class ship. But nice vid!

[GermanBrother93]

Very TRUE!!

[DarthxxRane]

Darth Vader would win. He could chop them to bits easily.

I've never seen Voyager, so I can't really comment on that...

Luke would win, cuz he has the Force and a lightsaber. Picard has the power of baldness and a phaser that looks like my TV remote.

And like I said before, a lightsaber would pwn a phaser.

Data would win because '3P0 is "...programmed for etiquette, not destruction!"

Lastly, Grievous would kick Kahn's butt. Obi-Wan barely killed Grievous, and he was a Jedi Master!

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Voyager would lose, half the time their ship breaks down due to some alien they met only 5 minutes into the episode.

[DarthxxRane]

Why does that remind me of the Millenium Falcon? xD

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Maybe because the MF is attacked frequently by larger or better ships. The only difference is the MF can outrun its aggressors. There was even an episode where Voyager crashed on a planet and all the people aboard it on the time were dead. The only way they came back to life was 3 people on the Delta Flyer had to mess with 7 of 9's programming that affecting in the past, and urged Voyager not to use slipspace or whatever the thing was.

[DarthxxRane]

That was a rhetorical question. xD

But those facts really are fascinating. :3

[DarthxxRane]

Sorry guys, bringing a light saber to dual against a phaser is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

-x-

No, it is nothing like that. I will say it: lightsabers can block phasers, no matter what the setting is, as long as the person with the lightsaber is Force Sensitive. I mean, a phaser on wide-field is similar to being surrounded by battle droids and stormtroopers, only those are moving targets. A phaser is practice for a Jedi Apprentice; it's nothing to a Master.

[fourx4ever]

Sorry guys, bringing a light saber to dual against a phaser is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

And not of this 'light saber can block the phaser' crap. In the trek episode 'a piece of the action' Kirk commented that the phaser could take out the entire side of the building if it was on wide field.

[StaminaAQW]

lets see

darth vader would win because he can just slice their arm blaster things off

voyager would win because it has more weapons systems

luke would win because HES MARK HAMILL..just for that rreason

lightsaber would win because it can just delfect phaser blasts

data would win because hes way stronger and C3PO is only a protocol droid

general grievous would win because he could just stab khan like 50 times with his sabers and he die ...let me use up the final charac -poof-

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Voyager doesn't have more weapons systems. They can hardly keep their ship intact for most of the series. Many times have the crew had to require the help of a foreign alien ship. They just fail at fighting, you can see that in most episodes.

[gianderosa1990]

I don't think you've seen much of voyager.

[Darthstormtrooper60]

I've seen a good majority where the episodes tend to repeat themselves. At the least, I would say that I've seen around 50+ episodes. It's a fascinating show and everything, but up against an ISD, that's just too much for it. I like Voyager so much, I point out to myself whenever I see Roberto Picardo in other films(like Wagons East or whatever that film is...).

[bjmfamily]

I can't believe it's not a phaser!

[blazer1a1]

sorry but put into a google search

star trek vs star wars ships and a really simple essay comes up first read it and do the math.

The star destroyer would win.

[waverly24]

Your weapons did not include any phasers, only a Cardassian rifle and a Romulan disruptor. Besides, comparing a light saber to a phaser is like comparing a rifle to a pistol--the rifle can drop you at a distance while the pistol needs close range to ensure a kill.

[Darthstormtrooper60]

So the phaser is the rifle, but the thing is that the lightsaber being the pistol has the ability to deflect rifle bullets in that case. It doesn't make sense, but with a lightsaber, I'm sure you can deflect a phaser, it's just a slower blaster as seen in Star Wars.

[Sindiel666]

like that matters when the star wars universe's Force user's could easily kill you in so many ways Vader's choke is nothing compared to what say the anceint Sith Lord's could do to you and there is no way that your phaser's could go through a lightsaber's energy beam only a few types of steel very rare steel can with stand the beam it doesnt matter anyway your feeble weapons are no match for the power of the force Palpatine created a storm that destroyed an entire rebel fleet in orbit

[waverly24]

Depends. If you were as powerful with the light side of the force as the dark side, Palpatine's efforts would be useless against you.

[NoobKiller4]

But a lightsaber would most likely be able to block a phaser blast wouldnt it not?

[waverly24]

I suppose it could. I remember Luke Skyywalker blocking Stormtrooper blast weapons with his.

[iron496]

TEH ARGUMENT IS IRRELEVANT!!!!!

Ships and People in Star Wars use LASER weapons, lasers can not even penetrate the navigational shields of the FAR SUPERIOR Star Trek ships. THE PHASERS of the Star Trek ships could easily destroy any Star Wars ship.

Plus Kirk could totally kick Luke's ass.

Plus Sisko could totaly kick Anakin's ass.

Plus Picard could totally go all diplomatic on padme's ass.

[Hubbleknarf]

Its not about he best weapons, its about who has the best story and characters.

[Darthstormtrooper60]

1. "The LASER debate"

Lasers stand for radiation in today's society, I remember Lando telling us that Bespin collects the surrounding clouds and uses it for their weaponry, doesn't sound like radiation.

2."Kirk vs. Luke"

How does old Kirk win against acrobatic Luke?

2. "Sisko vs. Anakin"

Not sure who Sisko is, but unless he can choke you from a distance and have better acrobatic skills than his son, I would say fail.

3. "Picard vs. Padme"

Picard gets in more fights than Padme.

[randomProgrammer]

benjamin sisko, captain of deep space nine and emissary of the bajoran prohpets

[iron496]

phasers would go right through lightsabers.

[LegoFreakPictures]

10 movies 7 of which were way better than the Star Wars trilogy. I may seem like a deticated Trek fan who hates Star Wars, well I am and here's why. The original Star Wars was good for what it was and it could have gone on when it was in it's hay day. I liked it and I still do, but Lucas being the money loving bastard he is went and screwed it over by creating prequels that sucked and then Clone Wars which also sucked. I watch the new TV show because I like the action, but it still sucks

[Perion]

that's fine for you to have an opinion on, and the debate is not on which is the better show, I like aspects of both star wars and star trek and hate aspects of them too, and to be perfectly honest I don't consider either one better than the other overall as a series.

[Perion]

but the fact is, when it all comes down to the various technologies in either series, it's this

Star Trek has prettier, cleaner looking technology with allot of blinking lights and fancy names.

Star Wars has rugged, worn and reliable technology that is far more powerful when you compare the statistics of the weapons.

The Star destroyer was designed to be a powerful warship in space by ILM

The Klingon Bird of Prey was designed to look like a football player flexing his muscles.

[MysterousStranger]

you know it's pointless to debate you on it beacuse you probaly have a counter for every thing i say but here we go

Fact the range for star wars is 5,000M tops

wile the range for St is 200,000 M

fact there are 1,000,000 plantes under the rule of the Empire there are only 15,000 tops for the Federation

Fact SW speed is about dead even with ST

the population for the Empire is 100 times greater than the federation

fact SW sensors are crap an ISD dosn't even have contact sensors

[Perion]

Range for Star Wars is well over 1 AU, ROTS:ICS expressly states that they can accurately hit target vessels at ranges over 10 light minutes, that's

SW speed is about dead even with ST? not really, Hyperdrive

the blast size of a Turbolaser is not where the multihundred gigaton yield comes from, also the video games are at a lower order of canon than the ICS books, which means if Kotor Contradicts the ICS books, the ICS books win out because Kotor hs EU, while the ICS books are above the EU.

[Perion]

the ICS states that any one of the Acclamators guns has 200 gigatons per shot, while estimates on the ISD guns by extrapolation are in the mid gigaton to low Terraton range,

you say Turbos don't give blast sizes anywhere near equal to a 400 gigaton Nuke, well Photon torpedo blasts are not nearly the size of a 50 megaton nuke either, the yield is based on the amount of force applied over an area, not the area in which force is applied.

[MysterousStranger]

photon torpedoes have a power of 100 to 150 megatons based off of the episode Rise St voyager is clearly seen mostly vaporizing a mostly iron/nikle astoried that is as big as voyager an act witch would take atleast 100 megatons and in the novalasion of RotS it is stated that the tubolasers where firing blast powerful enough to vapeorise a small town an act witch iif you count mos esly as a small town would take a lowly 1.5 megatons

[Perion]

LMFAO!!! okay normally I don't laugh at people's stupidity but good god man.

Rise the asteroid was fragmented NOT vapourized, not a single part of the asteroid was reduced to vapour and it was not nickle/iron at all, as they stated they initially thought it was but it was not, funny part was it was actually made out of materials far weaker.

the episode also very clearly has Chakote chip a chunk of it by hand.

1.5 megatons is not enough to vaporize a town the size of mos eisley.

[Perion]

It's enough to destroy it yes, but not Vaporize, a word you obviously don't even know the meaning of IE, Solid mater to gas.

also as stated before, stop trying to use blast sizes to determine yield, you fire a photon torpedo and a nuclear bomb of equal "yield" the nuke will create a blast hundreds of times larger. Turbos and photons alike have high yields in small blasts, just that turbos are in the hundreds of gigatons or half dozen terratons.

[Perion]

throughout this "debate" the only thing you have proven is "you can't fix stupid" that or rather, I can't fix you.

Once you start down the Darkstar path, forever will his stupidity dominate your destiny.

but it is not too late, you can still turn back.

but i'm not going to waste any more of my time, especially since I have friends on the phone and IRL (i'm sure you do too, i'm not immature enough to claim you have no life since any attempt to do so would equally apply to me obviously.)

[Perion]

sorry about the truncated statements, Youtube has that character limit after all, but the 10 light minute range, that's about 200,000,000km

compare with Star Trek's 200,000km during one on one fights and under 5km in large scale battles. watch the dominion war episodes, their ranges are MUCH lower than 200,000km, or even 10km, call to arms is a very good episode for indications of how Far weapon ranges decrease when there are allot of ships involved, why this happens they never explain.

[Perion]

sublight speed in star wars is higher due to Temporal shielding, allowing them to approach much closer to the speed of light without time dilation effects

Sublight Acceleration and FTL speeds are also higher. for example, the Venator class Star Destroyer is rated at having an acceleration of 3,000g the enterprise D by contrast, is only 1,000g. maximum Warp is somewhere along the lines of 1-2,000 times C, Hyperdrive, depending on grade, is anywhere from 50,000,000 times C to 100,000,000 times C

[Perion]

sensors and ecm are extremely sophisticated in star wars, and have a very long range, however, they are very much focused on long range scans, as a result they have no hull contact sensors that I am aware of, but pointing out what little they lack, is quite honestly irrelevant and avoids the fact that what they do have does make them more powerful than any corporeal race in star trek.

[Perion]

in star trek their main line of ship defense is their shields, and their secondary is their hull, they have in fact, no other defenses aside from this, they never use their phasers to target incoming torpedoes while there have been times in the Expanded universe where that has occured, similar to Babylon 5 where incoming torpedoes are shot down by energy weapons.

[Perion]

the reason why manual targeting and windows are used so extensively in star wars is not due to faulty targeting systems or sensors, but due to sophistication of ECM.

Star Trek ECM is limited to communications and transporters, In Star Wars ECM is used to jam sensors, targeting systems and even propulsion systems, be they sublight or ftl.

essentially every ship in the Imperial fleet has the ability to project a massive field around it which is akin to generating a small mutara nebula.`

[MysterousStranger]

sensors what sensors Star Wars has hardly any and star trek can block scanners it annoys me how little you undersatnd 200,000,000 range that's highly unlikely consedering EVERY battle we've seen has taken plas with just a few hundered meters from eachother wile in ST it is clearly shown in many episodes that they can hit a target from 200,000 KM and most incouters are from about 1 meter to 200,000 KM so maby you missed some episodes from voyager tos or tng

[MysterousStranger]

hmm shields that as sdtrong if not stronger than SW with hull that is aboout even

[Perion]

about even? need I remind you that your ships can barely withstand a few shots from some photon torpedoes, each of which are only 50 megatons in yield, I already stated at length the shield and weapon strengths of Star Wars equipment, are you that dense to even think that 50 megatons is anywhere NEAR 200 gigatons?

once again I already stated that Star Trek ships are capable of 200,000km ranges but ONLY when they are small engagements involving a half dozen ships or less.

[MysterousStranger]

extremly sophioscated they cant trake a vessisle in hyperspace if you remeber back to Esb where vader says to plot a corse based on the tragetory or somthing like that well if they have such high and mighty sensors would they just trake it i am omiting remot traking devices as in ANH but still

[Perion]

has it occured that it is entirely possible that hyperspace is very dificult to track? especially considering the fact that it's so bloody fast, and well over 50,000,000c despite Darkstar's extremely convoluted and pointless calculations which observed instances of hyperdrive traveling FAR greater distances FAR faster than his "calculations"

[MysterousStranger]

max wqarp for te enterpise D is around 21,000 C in generations and if your intending to use the argument that Kaminio is out side the SW galaxy stop right there because Kaminio is in side there galaxy geuss you didn't see the sence with yoda and the younglings and based on the trip from tatoine to genosis we can infer that from the posinion of the sun on corsount it took 15 hours with the proper distance formula we come with arounfd 1700 C at a crusing volacity thats warp 6

[MysterousStranger]

and if you watch almost any ship engagement in sSW that all take palce in ranges of 10's of Kms wile in ST it verys from toching to 200,000 thousand Km and i'd like to see where in the movies or the novalaziation or the scrpits it says they have a range of ten light minuits

[Perion]

anyhow you are just an idiot who loves Darkstar, I don't normally insult people but i'm kindof in a hurry, so i'll be blunt

star trek small scale engagements are long range, star trek large scale engagements such as those in DS9 are invariably short range, why this is is unknown but the point is their long range is only possible in small scale engagements of less than 6 ships.

first off the ICS states it, secondly all the battles we saw were containment battles designed to ensnare their enemy

[Perion]

also empire strikes back Vader wanted to come out of lightspeed outside of the system and bombard them from at least 1 AU away, but it mostly comes from the ICS which is as canon as the films and novelizations, ILM and lucasfilm expressly stated as such.

[MysterousStranger]

another thing you said that the ISD has a power of 4,000 times that of a photon torpedo thats 400 GIGATONS of energy! thats 9302 times more powerful than a single gram of antimater or enoough to destroy new york city 9302 times or enough to destroy the earth 8 1/2 witch in it self is contradicted in KotOR when the Sith bombard taris now if i'm not mistakin the planet was quit intacked when the Ebon Hawk flew out of there now if what your saing is true then it should have been vaporised

[starchildro]

star trek obviously wins

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Vader beats Borg because he has the force and Borg can't adapt to brute force or physical beatdowns.

ISD wins over Voyager because everything on Voyager goes down, and the ISD's bolts hit through the shield.

Skywalker wins obviously.

Grievous wins obviously.

Data vs. C3-P0 is biased but Data wins.

Lightsaber deflects phaser so lightsaber wins.

star wars wins on land obviously.

star trek loses in space due to less ships, armor, shielding, and what not.

[ajsanjua]

One Borg cube vs the Death Star would be an obvious win for the Death Star, but a fleet of Cubes would be a Death knell for Vader's toy. Sure, you might blow up the first few cubes, but once they adapt their shields, you're a goner. The Borg can then board the Death Star and assimilate everyone onboard.

Resistance IS futile!

[Perion]

sorry pal, the Borg cannot adapt to firepower of that magnitude, especially firepower that has no frequency. your borg-wanking is pointless, a single Star Destroyer could demolish an entire Borg fleet.

[LegoFreakPictures]

Vader beats borg cause of Force power

Star Destroyer wins cause I hate Voyager

Skywalker would whine too much so Paccard wins

Lightsaber beats Phaser for obvious reasons

Data wins because C-3P0 is gay

Villain wise Khan is better, but Grivous would kick Kahn's ass

Star Trek would win in space because their ships (all aliens included) , armor, shields, tactics, and weaponry is superior. On the ground however, it's pretty obvious. I don't think a starfleet officer would last against the Jedi

[Perion]

actually legofreak, the armour, shields, tactics and weaponry are superior in star wars, they also have hyperdrive, which is thousands of times faster than warp.

here's how it all comes down.

your average photon torpedo state of the art is around 40-60 megatons tops, your average quantum torpedo is around 64-120 megatons tops depending on estimation.

Turbolasers on acclamator class ships are around 200 gigatons per shot and it has 12 of em, and the ship is designed primarily as a dropship.

[Perion]

the shields of an acclamator can take almost 17 terratons of fire per second without suffering any damage to the shields.

Federation shields cannot withstand much more than a gigaton, and after 50 megatons or so damage bleeds through the shields causing sparks, exploding consoles, systems failures and casualties despite the shields being up

Star Wars ships are completely invulnerable while their shields are active, but their shields are not, they are just invulnerable to federation weapons.

[Perion]

also Star Wars ship armour is capable of withstanding similar levels of firepower that their shields can handle and against an enemy ship of equal firepower they can last longer with their shields down than a federation ship can against an equal foe with their shields up.

Star Wars ship hull armour, called Durasteel (despite there being no iron in it) is made up of many minerals and is tougher than the sum of it's parts, one of which is Neutronium, which the federation considers indestructible.

[LegoFreakPictures]

I'm sorry but warp is still faster. Warp 10 allows you to exist everywhere possible at the same time.

[Perion]

Warp 10 is well beyond their reach, as stated before even Paramount isn't happy with "Threshold" since it makes the leap from Sci-fi to flat out fantasy and is rejected by a vast majority of the star trek Fanbase and even Paramount staff themselves.

[LegoFreakPictures]

Paramount is like the Fox network, they're a bunch of retards. And where do you get that statistic anyway and while you're bringing up fantasy, that is all that Star Wars is. Star Trek is more realistic.

[Perion]

Paramount was stupid by even having Warp 10 reachable, even if it did have huge consequences behind it, even Star Wars has a better grasp of physics than that.

Star Trek is just as much fantasy as Star Wars, they simply use more technobabel to cover it up and make it sound more "realistic"

for example, in star wars you'll say someone is a ghost, in star trek you'll refer to them as a non-corporeal being that once held corporeal form.

[Perion]

which is more realistic? neither, Star Trek just uses fancier words to make itself seem more plausible. Star Wars has no such pretentious tendency and instead focuses on the story and the action rather than spending time explaining how everything works.

Lucas himself stated that while he wanted everything in star wars to appear functional, that everything had a practical mindset behind it, that he didn't want to spend much time with exposition explaining all the science behind it.

[LegoFreakPictures]

Are you for real? In Star Wars, we have Jedi who can jump real high and shoot lightning out of their hands and wave their lightsabers around in circles. In Star Trek- Oh that's right none of that crap exists. Instead we have more practical things like technology which is very well explained whereas in Star Wars we just touch on the basics of our tech. Bottom line Star Wars overall sucks. 7 movies 3 and 1/2 of which were utter crap. Star Trek 10 movies and five series one of which didn't happen

[Perion]

Star Trek had 10 movies but the budget was much lower for each one, and the most successful star trek film did not gross nearly as much as the least successful star wars film

Star Trek has nothing like Jedi that have super human powers? how about the Prophets, Pah'Wraiths, Trelane, the Q and countless other aliens and even human beings who have accended in various powers like Wesley crusher?

star wars just have a greater understanding of what the federation call "psionics"

[Perion]

and maybe wesley isn't as good of an example, here's a much better one, watch the VERY FIRST EPISODE OF STAR TREK,

you know, the one where they fly through some barrier around the galaxy that doesn't exist and two crew members receive godlike powers and can create things out of mid air.

say that sounds familiar, people in space flying through some phenomenon and getting super powers, Star Trek's very premiere had all the realism of Fantastic Four

[Perion]

the "Warp 13" as stated in the episode "All Good Things" refers to the Warp scale having been changed, which happens every century, Warp 9 in Picards time is not the same Warp 9 that Kirk knew, likewise they got tired of using so many decimals when describing warp speeds.

[aredof15]

Borg there energy shields deflect anything so even if vadar kills 1 like 10 others would assimilate him,Voyager is monverable and powerful, Star destroyers are slow but bulky but Voyager would win,If it was a fair fight between picard and luke meaning no force and no lightsabers picard would win even if he had a phaser he wouldd win but that dam force, there is no way that a light saber can deflect a straight line of energy, in star wars they fired burst shots in star trek its a beam

[Perion]

well lets see, Lightsabers have been shown to defend against beam weapons by reflecting them like a laser pointer on a mirror, so a Lightsaber CAN deflect a phaser.

a star destroyer is bulky and FAST, but not maneuverable, it is also extremely powerful, the shields of an Acclamator require 350,000 photon torpedoes impacting every second in order to even start to whittle away the shields, and a single star destroyer is hundreds of times as powerful as an Acclamator

[underbull]

OK, C3PO is a protocol droid, not an android who is also in the Federation Navy. Protocol droids run their mouths all day, they do not fight. Data wins. Picard may be older/more experienced than luke but the force is the ultimate weapon in a man vs man fight. Luke wins. Vader vs borg, how many is the question but since no one actually knows Vaders true potential and the borg follows a set pattern. Vader. Grevious kills Kahn DUH! An ISD with 60 Turbos and 60 ions with 72TIEs kills voyager.

[MysterousStranger]

acutly it's a well know star trek fact that star trek sheilds can withsand lasers and ions and concusion missles and proton torpedoes and voyager uses photon torpedoes witch is anti-matter = isd utter distrucion there's know fuckin way a star wars ship (Excluding the Death Star) could beat a star trek ship not evan the SSD could beat a star trek ship with out killing it self

[frozenhiphop09]

THEN WE'LL fuck it up with the x-wing, just like it did with the death star.

[MysterousStranger]

i'd like to see an x-wing try

(oh but on a land battle Star wars PWNS Star Trek and any charicter battles Star WArs wins) but in space Star Trek wins ALMOST all the time Except in case of Death Star and anyway you guys all think that all of Star Trek and Star Wars would fight each other they wouldn't it would be like the Dommion teams up with the empire and the rebles would team up with the Federation

[animeownage86]

lmfao right... There is no "shoot here to destroy" holes on Federation starships and besides they could probley take out like 20 fighters in a couple of seconds watch "Conundrum" (Star Trek: the Next Generation)

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Lasers of today are a lot different in the SW universe, so that is wrong. Ions are used either for propulsion in TIE fighters or to temporaily immobilize an ISD like in ep 5. How would you know that fed ships can withstand proton torpedoes if they never met, and what is the amounts of firepower per torpedo. SSDs also kick more ass than you know. Not my fault you pulled that lie out of your ass.

[Darthstormtrooper60]

Joshy, actually you're accusing the wrong person. You kinda acted bias by making unfair battles mainly on Star Wars. Sure with Khan and Grievous(grievous wins) and Luke and Picard(Luke wins with lightsaber). Though 1 person against the Borg? Star Wars kinda takes the cake on all accounts, but the Darth Vader and Borg thing seems to be wrong(Vader got the Empire).

[limegreensquid]

... Picard is militarily trained and would kick whiney Luke's ass.

Lightsaber could block the phaser shot, and cut off the hand that holds it.

C-3PO would shatter into little golden pieces after one blow from Data's super strength.

I don't know much about Khan ... but without a lightsaber Khan would die in one second.

Star Wars still would be best, to me.

You should have also added Borg Cube Vs. Death Star, but the Borg Cube wouldn't last one superlaser shot ... so maybe not.

[limegreensquid]

Darth Vader would slaughter hundreds of Borg before they swarmed him with their sheer numbers and killed him.

A Star Destroyer would destroy Voyager ... but the Enterprise would put up a good fight.

I still think 60 turbolasers would slice through any Starfleet deflector shield in under a minute, though.

Luke versus Picard depends on whether you allow Luke to have his Lightsaber. With-saber=Luke in 2 seconds ... Without-saber=It would be a long battle ... but Picard is (continued...)

[MysterousStranger]

ions are nothing to federation vessels they encounter ions all the time and the borg wouldn't kill vader they would assimalate him but i suppose i'm wasting my breath on you but couse every one from both sides are so thick headed (me included) why can't we just agree that there both good in there own way

[Perion]

maybe you should watch some star trek more, particularly DS9, they repeatedly state that Ion Storms are as dangerous to federation ships as conventional storms are to age of sail ships and need to be avoided.

Solar Flares can destroy borg cubes, and Turbolasers are known to be Far more powerful, Turbolasers are easily 4,000 times the firepower of a photon torpedo, you may not have known this though.

[Sterlng]

Your knowledge of Star Trek is disturbing.

That was NOT Voyager, but the is Enterprise.

This whole thing sucks my holographic balls!

Suck it, you did!

[JoshyBoBoshy]

I know it is Enterprise, but i couldn't find a picture of voyager on Google to upload. Next Your a jerk! this is my 2nd movie ever i cant make way better, i got movie maker like 10 mins before i made this!

[Sterlng]

I'm kinda laughing at myself right now, because now I can't believe I wrote that.

Sorry, I was in a bad mood.

Nah, more like I was in a really bad mood.

HAHAHAHA I still can't believe I was that harsh.

Sorry, again.

But, you could not find a picture of Voyager on good. There's goota be something. It's GOOGLE! It frikin searches the world!

Anyway, sorry again. It wasn't as bad as I originally said. Maybe soon I'll respond who I think wins on each match.

Peace out!