How to totally ruin out the beautiful sound of a Moog Slim Phatty

[almuhit]

The first minute reminds me "New Millennium" (a Dream Theater song) - I like it!

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@almuhit

Thanks a lot !!! :-)))

[oddboxTopper]

Actually, I love the entire piece! Even though it may have no musical value, it's still a performance of sound. Much of classical electronic music is based solely upon experimentation with sound. Thanks for this unusual performance

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@oddboxTopper

Many thanks !!! :-)))

[nudist0885]

Between 0:00-0:50 Really Nice!!!

Between 0:50-1:06 LOVE the change in ?modulation? ?envelope generation? ?filtering?

Around 3:16 it loses all musical value.

(8^?

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@nudist0885

Well, this short track has no musical value anyway. The point is just destruction of a sound by the mean of speed. It is just a kind of timbral experiment. And i didn't care of beauty in this. If you want some Slim Phatty beauty from me, please listen to my "Enlightened Lyon"

[nudist0885]

@GruithuisenCityMan,

"no musical value anyway"? Of what speaketh thou BLASPHEMER!!!

Certainly it does have musical value if you think along the lines of the following songs;

"Discreet Music" by Brian Eno

"Sympathy and Acknowledgement" by Mark Isham

"Waterwheel" by Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Company

"Bed" by Philip Glass

You know, if you could re-record something EXACTLY like the first 0:30 seconds of this again for like 10 minutes straight...

[nudist0885]

@nudist0885,

...and then send it in to STARS END (which is a 5 hour radio program every saturday night-Sunday morning) at WXPN out of the University Of Pennsylvania they might play it on their radio program.

Other songs like your beginning hear are the likes of;

"Oh Superman" by Laurie Anderson

"Gymnosphere" (Song Of The Rose) PART 1 by Jordan De La Sierra

"Ballet Statique" by Conrad Schnitzler

As for me, I'd LOVE to hear the first 0:30 repeated over and over for 10 minutes.

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@nudist0885

I know and love almost all of those seven tracks. But, please, don't try to make me believe that my track is another Conrad Schnitzler's "Ballet Statique" or something like that. I am just another anonymous sound experimenter, that's all. And i am certainly not one of the best among all the sound experimenters in the world, even not in Europe, even not in France, the country i am writing from. I am just having some fun experimenting and making some tracks.

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@nudist0885

Well, maybe i wasn't quite clear writing this. So, let me be clearer. I was experimenting, that was the point. But yes, nevertheless, i was trying to be musical too. To me, experiment must be must musical and not just useless noise. But sometimes i want to be more experimenting than musical and some others times i prefer to be more musical than experimenting. Anyway, both of them are in my tracks. So maybe this track is more musical than i thought when i was recording it.

[nudist0885]

@GruithuisenCityMan,

Love ya.

Ciao babe.

[mcoz747]

so it's like FM synthesis, essentially...

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@mcoz747

Actually, to speed up a sequence is not what we could a synthesis. Because a sequence is only a variation of frequency, not a modulation of something else. Nevertheless, a modulation of a sequence by another sequence, both running at audio rate, should somewhat do the trick i think. Thanks for listening !

[archebeats]

sounded great, i wish i could have one.

[RoboticusMusic]

What I dont understand is how does something analog have digitally controlled patches???? Is the recall 128 step MIDI....

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@RoboticusMusic

Well, a lot of analog synths are digitally controlled. The sound is analog but the controls are digital. Actually, it's not the big point here because i tweaked the controls manually so it does not matter. The big point here is the sequence, which is a simple 8 steps one, and the sequencer, a virtual one made with Plogue Bidule, which can reach audio frequencies. That's the secret to totally ruin out the beautiful sound of a Moog Slim Phatty... Thanks for listening !

[RoboticusMusic]

@GruithuisenCityMan I did find it interesting. I love when people do big mean digital things to poor old analog synths ;) But I'm very curious as to how these kinds of synths are digitally controlled. Say you save a sound do all the knob positions change slightly to align to one of the 128 steps?

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@RoboticusMusic

Actually, i was doing three sorts of things during recording this track. 1) i tweaked some parameters of the filtering 2) i transposed from time to time the 8 steps sequence and 3) i was pushing up the speed of the sequence, which began at about 120 BPM and reached something like 10000 BPM at the end of the track. At that speed, the most beautiful sound of the best synth in the world is just turned into a dirty noisy piece of sonic garbage...

[JosefK93]

@RoboticusMusic The Moog Little Phatty has 4096 steps or something like that... 4000 something ^^ you can see this easily by selecting whatever you want to change and then go to the little menu in the top left corner and control say osc 2 freq with the endless rotary knob. I use this to tune the oscillators to each other more easily. The precision gets better but it's no longer stepless.

[RoboticusMusic]

@JosefK93 Thanks, I've never had that explained to me. Now I wonder how the analog controls get "moved" digitally. Is that like a digital CV type thing that controls every knob?

[ContenTHC]

that is awesome

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@ContenTHC

Thanks !!! :-)))

[ihatekhomeini]

What are you doing, that's the coolest sound at the end there, really spaced out. Reminds me of Pink Floyd for some reason...

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@ihatekhomeini

Thanks !!! :-)))

[thehside]

You failed.......SO BEAUTIFULY! :3 <3

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@thehside

Let me tell you a big secret about this recording. At the end of what we hear of this music, the BPM of the sequence is about 20000. It's pretty high but the Slim Phatty was still quite ok with that. After, it did go even higher but my computer failed and the music has suddenly stopped. That is the real beauty of this pleasant test : a Moog still works well when a computer collapse ! How to totally ruin out a dual core processor...

[ganglu]

I think you failed at your ruin attempt. It might not be possible. 

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@ganglu

Well, i have to admit that you're right ! :-)))

[voxpopulistudio]

I love it this is really beautiful.. can you please explain the patch and signal path?

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@voxpopulistudio

Sorry for answering you very late. So, what is the patch and the signal path ? Well, what is important here is not the Moog Slim Phatty. I could have used another synth to generate the sound (but i love my Moog Slim Phatty !). What is important is the sequencer, and i have made it with Plogue Bidule. And i have made it so that it can reach a very very high audio-rate BPM. So all this is a matter of progressively ruining out a sound by the way of a mad sequencing speed...

[HammondB200]

Cool, but the headliner is stupid.

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@HammondB200

Cool ? Thanks ! And about the headliner, it tells exactly what i wanted to do. Was that stupid ? To ruin or not to ruin ? That is the question...

[bjcsupertortoise]

Almost all of this video seemed pretty beautiful to me...

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@bjcsupertortoise

Yes, it's a hard work to ruin out the sound of a Moog synthesizer !

[RADIOKLOW]

Voilà une fort intéressante manière de produire des ruines ! Le palais du seigneur Little Phatty ainsi conçu est on ne peut plus passionnant !

[qishmish]

hey it still sounds beautiful though

[GruithuisenCityMan]

@qishmish

Yes ! I tried my very best to be bad and nasty but the sound of a Moog synthesizer is beautifully undestructible !