Ivan Van Sertima- Civilizations before Greece and Rome 2

[bajanzelly]

Maybe that claim by Sadat was also a reason he was assassinated, not just the peace treaty.

[moLeOnPoT]

i love this lecture, the only thing he is a bit wrong on is, there are still lots of black natives in Egypt, they are just not in the big cities and mostly not shown in the media

[bromin6]

"People ask us 'Why are we so angry why are we so worked up, why does it matter...it happened thousands of years ago, why does it matter?', and question arises: Why does it matter to them?"

[brockspower]

whitie kills me when they try to slither up into every other history instead of there own,funny how they have more shit on Egypt then rome or greece. LMAO white people need to stay in there lane. I LOVE BEING BLACK

[swiggins01]

Profound, I am forever changed...RIP Great Master Teachers... Dr. Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke, Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop and many more...

[meuwtwo]

This show be shown all over the world!!!!!

[yonitree]

LoVedit!

[Alara0625]

Back in the days they lived on real time not the concept we live on so they were very patient in ancient times and patience is the first requirement for greatness

[caribbeandiaspora]

Our Ivan on form, as usual

[ABBAdaughter]

AMAZING!!!! This is the best saturday I have ever had on my computer stumblig on the lectures of Dr.Ivan Van Sertima. I can't get enough of this knowledge, I just finished watching Africans in Science, and I have never even heard of this man in my 43 years of life.

[adeamujale]

@ABBAdaughter Teach!

[cardabanks]

I can not believe this factual knowledge is not taught in school. For that matter it aint even taught in Higher Education.

The founding fathers of these U.S. of A. got their knowledge from Greece and Rome i.e. Plato, Aristotle, Socrates. But where did they get their knowledge from, Kemet. I remembered I asked my Pol Sci teacher in a Early Pol Theory course and she perpetrated like she didnt know. I feel she knew what I was trying to illuminate

I need to embrace my ancestors true history

[tub01044]

MY CULTURE!? MY FOOT!!!!

[kemetkush]

thank you, dr. sertima, we will never forget you.

[peasah2005]

The original Kemetians or Egyptians are the first people to bring civilization.

They built, taught, invested, preached and uplifted Africans all across the earth and they didn't depend on anybody.

We must thank the teaches of our great scholars amongst us including Baba van Sertima and his memories will live on.

[tooblack09]

I think Cush is older than egypt and they were highly respected in the ancient world. Homer wrote in the Illiad that the Gods Zeus and Apollo came from Ethiopia

[0alstonw0]

@tooblack09 It is! Nubia has been proven to be older than Egypt!

[tooblack09]

Thank you for your confirmation. I was pretty sure it was.

[XuanDi]

@0alstonw0 whats the evidence for it being, older, the reason why i ask, its because I'moding some research on Nubia and EGypt and thats precisely what I seek to prove

[BigPreme]

@XuanDi research Ta-Seti 

[XuanDi]

@tooblack09 Homer doesn't say that, i think its Diodorus. IN the Illiad the Ethiopians are the blameless people whom the gods attend their feasts and nothing stops them from going, not even the trojan war or Achilles

[tooblack09]

@XuanDi You 're right. Homer said in the Iliad that Zeus was feasting among the sun burn. Diodorus said Zeus and Appllo came from Ethiopia I think. Peace.

[ave383]

no the sumerians were.

[tamaduni]

THE NEGRO IS GOD

[fury2962]

I hear too much about the so-called primitive peoples who were lacking in achievement and intelligence.They say'oh back then they didnt have air conditioners' and other corny stuff like that when they talk about history.However the truth is that we may have advanced technologically but we are still uncivilized and more barbaric than civilizations 1000 years ago.We kill each other steal from each other and destroy each other still none of that is civilized

[1DjRadeoConscyous]

dude seems right on to me

[TJMonster51]

Thank you!

[TJMonster51]

The blacks had alot to do with egypt, but the pyramids and the sphinx were already there when they got there. They recarved the head of the sphinx.

[edupbeat]

What the fuck are you talking about? Did you even view the whole lecture? Listen to you: "blacks" had "alot to do with Egypt (kemet).

[TJMonster51]

just because its a lecture makes it right? the sphinx was originally a lion and its head was re carved. 13000 years ago when it faced Leo, man did not have the masonry skills do build such things as purposed by the standard model of human evolution.

[edupbeat]

Dude, you sound just like the professors Sertima was talking about! His name is Khufu, the FATHER of ALL masonry. It is a HUGE statue of him ( and he definetly was eggplant mf)! Google the bust of Aha the founder of Egypt and you'll clearly see. That is if your eyes want you to see it! Man didn't have the masonry skills! Naw, "white men" didn't have the skills dude. And I checked your page, go back to playing your fucking acoustic you John Mayer wanna be!

[TJMonster51]

OK, are you done acting like a child? I don't see how insulting my guitar playing has anything to do with this and I don't care for john mayer. Appeal to ridicule logic is the sign of a moron and you are the only one using that technique here. I'm just saying that the Egyptians were very good record keepers and no one ever wants to take their version of the story.And you may be right on the black building the structures, but design is a whole other issue.

[TJMonster51]

This is not a racial issue so stop making it one. And who I am as a person has nothing to do with the facts that we know to be true. Calling me names while having an open discussion is something a moron does. So if your gonna call names, you should know what a person by that name does. So calling me a moron is quite ironic. The pyramids masonry far exceeds our own capabilities today. So your gonna sit there and tell me some men in loin clothes we more technologically advanced that we are today?

[edupbeat]

First off, it IS exactly a racial issue and Im sick of this ploy that white people use whenever our history get involved! Listen to your (white) arrogance: "men in loin clothes"! You're a typicalWHITE MALE with WHITE wrapped in WHITE ideology! I mean there are statues, statues I say of ancient black men and you white people vehemently deny our contributions. And this is youtube guy get a fucking sense of humor!

[TJMonster51]

Technically speaking, I am native american. I belong to the Pokagan band of Potowanami Indians and I don't think white, or black, or indian. I think like a human being. Now considering we Homo Sapien Sapien's. We are the same species. The color of our skin makes no difference but only to a moron. Because we all evolved from the same place. Its not an issue of Black pride or White power. Your gonna find evidence of black people everywhere yes!

[TJMonster51]

If you could see Homo Erectus, he would be dark skinned. SO to take a monument and attribute it to a specific race is moronic to begin with because we all came from the same place. We are Human. Well some of us behave humanly.

[edupbeat]

By the way Tj, ive always had a thought that maybe just maybe the erection of these things was with the assistance of E.T.! I mean, the ancient Caan were fasanated/worshipped the constellations!

[TJMonster51]

Check out the sumerian story of the anunnaki, interesting and plausible. The problem with any of this I feel is that, everyone is on to something but, their personal, racial, religious bias always sways the evidence. People who think that way are usually more political than scientific. When you know the illusions of the ego, you can see that all the facts may be true but how they fit together is most likely not true. I's say don't worry about the past, do something now to prove your worth.

[AFRIKTODAY]

It is not an attribution to a specific race my friend! You have to take in consideration the denial of the Africanness and blackness of the Egyptians and other high civilizations in Africa! It isn't even about Egypt but Europe!

The Romans and Grecs respected the ancient egyptians! The issue is Eurocentrism and as an Indian you should be well aware of that! It is Western ideology that claims the superiority of the West over the rest and Africans in particular! Someone gotta fight back!

[edupbeat]

Now i actually AGREE with you on this one! But you have got to understand the record needs to be set straight. History has been tragically altered for the benefit of a certain group of people and the truth NEEDS to be revealed! Why is it important? Cause we have to acknowledge the past to move foward. Peace dude!

[TJMonster51]

Well, now your talking philosophy. The records will never be straight as long as people are arguing like you were with me. People have to put the ego's and their pride aside and not give a shit who gets the credit. But I still don't believe the pyramids or the sphinx were built by people. Have seen to many things that contradict the whole idea of people building it. Besides, the Egyptians earliest records says Thoth built them.

[edupbeat]

And by the way, I know you're a dumb ass with statements like "when they got there"! WTF r u talking about dude? You have no friggin clue do you? When did the "blacks" get "there"? Ha,ha,ha,ha what a fucking moron!

[edupbeat]

Ive realized that you'll never admit to any of this so im gonna quit right here white man and say you're right(he,he,he)!!

[edupbeat]

Ohh, and the Egyptians were "record keepers"? Man, you're saying I"m the moron? Previously you said they "recarved" the head now I guess you're convince cause you just admitted that they built it. I guess im not a MORON after all. And cause one hurls insults it does not make them dumb (like you assumed), immature maybe but not a moron.

[TJMonster51]

Yeah , record keepers, have you ever looked at the walls on and around their temples? Hieroglyphs are type of writing. The head was re carved to look like someone as it was a lion before. The water erosion differs from the head and the body. The body was buried for thousands of years yet the head has less erosion. And the heads proportion to the body is way off. Hurling insults is moronic no matter how you look at is because its an attempt to make yourself feel better than someone else.

[TJMonster51]

Its quite silly to think that a clever play on words could make anyone better than anyone else. Rather moronic.

[90rashad]

@TJMonster51 have you lived that long ago, because if you did, then what is a computer, most importantly what is the English language. You are speaking in a modern perspective. You have no idea what you are talking about. Egyptian designs is African. We are a people of many cultures.

[TJMonster51]

@90rashad Hey, Its not my fault our dating methods and scientists cant get their stories straight. You have just as much credibility as some yahoo new ager in my book. Hawass has the hands down last word in egypt right now no matter what I think but, that part of egypt is a star map of orion. The retooling or carving evidence is all over the thing. Its obvious just from low res pictures. Quit being bias.

[TJMonster51]

Thoth built the pyramids.

[jachim718]

ahhh...I'am a Hue-man being!!!

[Thoro329]

If black people are Hamites that means Black people founded and built Ancient Babylon because Nimrod was the son or Grandson of Cush son of Ham.

[Steadno]

I just read that the other day. Canaan or Phoenicia is responsible for the providing Greece with an alphabet, the one we use today!

[tamaduni]

CANAAN WAS ALSO THE SON OF HAM

[Steadno]

That is Hebrew folklore. Hebrews think man is only 6,000 years old yet the fossil records shows different.

[keilyngodson26]

Brilliant. Not to be funny in this serious matter, but doesnt he sound like the Arabic dude from the old bugs bunny cartoons? Peace Black

[keilyngodson26]

Hey, what r u doing here????

[thesuperfe]

most africans ARE hamites. Africa was the name given to the continent by a Roman general - Scipio Africanus.

[collease123]

Say it loud I am melaned and proud!!

[Beamshipcaptain]

I am glad to be black also. Feels good to be alive.

[chencf]

The african egyptians have the oldest civilization and the oldest original form of writing.

[tyab14]

I thought Kush came before Egypt?

[chencf]

Yes, from what I know, but as far as writing Egyptian script is the first writing. Kush has writing as well? (Imo Egyptians just moved from the south of the country and conquered Egypt. They are all the same people but the different territories differentiate them, i.e. named after the countries.

[Deee36]

Cush is Egypt!

[nathanielmak]

oldest form of writing originated in ethiopia...Dr Ivan has also said this

[chencf]

Oldest Egyptian hieroglyphs (sacred pictures) have been found on monuments 5,000 years old. How old is the Ethiopian writing?

[9ways2win]

Ivan van Sertima is the F$%%ing man.

"I`m not sure if they were Africans".

Whites can be stubborn like no other.

Damn!

[Vtruth]

were the egyptians influenced by the the babylonian worship of nimrod

[andreChris69]

no the Babylonians learn early on from the egyptians, research the fact thier culture is influenced by the blacks

[SugarJ1]

Damn im glad im black

[blackclassics]

These videos are awesome!! Thank you.

[Iandheishere]

i cosign that very sentiment