Thanks for sharing this. I was in Molde throughout August and I loved exploring the mountains and such around there. I was going to come to Bergen to see a metal show, but I didn't get the chance because it was too expensive.
I will definitely visit Bergen at some point, though!
@scottie0904 Hi Scottie and thanks for the sub! :)
It's no surprise that the show was too expensive, everything here costs a lot. But I'm sure the mountains were beautiful as well. If you visit Bergen while Skall and I'm still here we could do something together.
That would be lovely. I have to finish my studies first, but I definitely want to go back to Norway after that. I guess we will see what our situations are when I'm finished! : )
@scottie0904 I'm always interested in meeting people from all over the world. Skall and I will be in Bergen until July this year, after that, we're going to be 450 km farther north in Trondheim.
@CaraDanaellea I study Archaeology and Ancient History. I'll be studying Anthropology and Archaeology next year, though, and that will last for 3 years. So, I guess if we were to meet, it would have to be somewhere other than Bergen! ^^
That's no issue though. I love Norway, and generally lush lands such as they are in Europe. Skall has already assisted me in sending his thesis! I will dig into it once I've finished my current assignment(s) :)
@scottie0904 Ah, Skall has three years of Archaeology study under his belt as well, but it became so dry and frustrating that he decided to start from zero when we immigrated to Norway.
So you'll end up with degrees in anthropology and archaeology in three years if I get you right, wow, I wish I could get two degrees at once myself. On the other hand, I have more than enough work with my one bachelor thesis at the moment :D
In three years we'll probably be somewhere else again, so we'll see ;)
@CaraDanaellea Yeah - I don't exactly have a passion for Archaeology, I don't have a passion for any subject really. It's just a good way to potentially work in different places throughout my life. That's the main thing - to experience more of the world. Exploration is my passion, even if it's just in a simple forest!
This course I'm doing at the moment isn't for a degree - it's for entrance to uni, like A-levels.
@scottie0904 A-Levels? I'm not really familiar with the UK-system I'm afraid. I took my final exams in High School (german Gymnasium) and then I could go to University. Do you have to take extra tests?
Getting into science is a sure way to get into travelling. Science today has to be international so person's with higher degrees are getting around :)
My bachelor thesis is in Psychology, the topic is the relationship between legislative strictness, people's risk perception + desired regulation
@CaraDanaellea yeah - we have to go on to college to do "A-levels" before we can enter uni. We leave school at age 16, although I hear that is changing to 18 very soon.
A friend is studying Psychology too. She's got 2 years left! is the "desired regulation" from the perspective of legislators or "the people"? Either way, sounds interesting.. but I'd need to be in the mindset of the study to understand that title fully of course :p
@scottie0904 That's different in Germany, you have three branches of school. Classes after the 4th grade are divided according to achievement. Those having only A/B go to Gymnasium which is 8/9 years of school explicitly designed to give you an universal university competence.
I was 19 (youngest possible) when I finished.
From the viewpoint of the people, it is a tad about Europeans wanting a nanny state and Americans fearing it. I have 5 month left to my bachelor, but then 2 years to my master
I shall answer the French question too! Here in Western Canada,a very basic french is learn up to grade 9. ( go to grade 12 here) German is offered as second language starting in Grade 9. Unless your in province of Quebec, noone here really speaks french as a fluent language. All stores are English as well as schools. Maybe 1 out of 10 schools in BC are french? Some schools may teach in french up to grade 12, but that is only by choice.
@finalfantasy4everock Interesting, you make it sound rather exceptional to really speak French whereas Hojo paints a more francophone picture. Thanks a lot, I guess in the end it really depends where you live. *sigh* I sometimes wished it was easier to first "try" a country before really moving there...
@CaraDanaellea yeh, you do not need french when moving to Canada. Everyone here speaks English, French is a ''second language'' unless your in the far eastern provinces, even then they know how to speak English. British Columbia Province speaks mainly English. You guys would do perfectly great here! P.S....bring some cloudberries!! :D
@rainbottes It is quite amazing how big and well stocked the library of this tiny (250 000 inhabitants) city is. As said the state is buying a lot of books for the libraries so they don't really depend on the donations and passed on books of their users.
I hear they don't allow books from the US as they are twice as wide as the European books. Zing. Nice video Cara. Is that a normal size for a library in Norway? It seems rather large compared to the average Library in my city. I live in Philadelphia(US); a city which closed ALL of it's public libraries down at one point(not all of them reopened) Thanks for the Book-centric peek into Bergen.
@Faxu I believe more than 50% of the books are in fact American, as said, far from everything is translated, nearly none of the fiction at all. Yes, the paper formats are different which is fairly annoying but no reason to ban them... wow, Nanny Europe not banning something XD
I'd say that the size is normal for a Norwegian main library, there are smaller side branches for the suburbs. In Munich the sidebranches are nearly as big as the main library in Bergen... and Munich complains about it...
@Faxu Oops... sorry, I really didn't get that since as a student I am only too well aware of the difference in book sizes. American ones don't fit well into European copy machines X)
But concerning "fat Americans", rest assured, Norwegians not only have very similar (binge)eating habits, they also are very similar in size... I just really wish the women wouldn't think that sexy enough to wear no trousers or skirts under their long shirts *blargh*
Wow, I'm amazed at the diversity of languages that your libraries contains; my library only has English, French, Spanish, and a lot of German (Most of the citizens have German, predominantly Prussian ancestry). By the way, the one you didn't know was Ethiopian(I have a lot of Ethiopian restaurants and markets in my city and know the writing system solely because you have to if you ever want to shop there and order something.
@HojoOSanagi In Europe you nearly have to be this multilingual since there simply is no one big common language and the percentage of immigrants in every single country is way higher than in America. Speaking more than one language is not an asset, it is required. Try to get a job with only one language, laughable. Two is standard, at three you have a chance of the personal clerk even looking at you.
Ethiopian? Wow, that is nice! I'd love to go shopping in one of these markets.
Yeah, here if you want to get a high class job you just have to speak French and English. Also, if you're a vegetarian, Cara, Ethiopian foods are a great choice; it's quite cheap and really healthy for you.
@HojoOSanagi Great, so I just have to polish my French... polish it good... *sigh* At the time I resisted learning it because I was forced to, now I wish I could still speak it. Well, relearning won't be too difficult and I'm willing to take any challenge.
Hm, now you really made me curious about Ethiopian foods and there is no way I can get it here :( Maybe I can find some recipes I don't need any unusual ingredients for.
Yeah, that's the stereotypical Canadian outlook on French (Unless you're French Canadian of course): I was forced to learn it and so I just quit, or the English I hate the French and never want to learn their god forsaken language (We have French people like that about English as well) And then they regret it. It really depends on location as well: the closer you are to Québec, the more useful it becomes. Every politician obviously needs it though.
@HojoOSanagi I believe with me it was actually less about the French per se (even though I told myself it was at that time) but the fact that I could choose between Latin and French in school. I really wanted to take Latin, but my parents forbade it and forced me into French and the mathematical branch of school.
That is the reason I had straight C or D in French until the last year where I got a teacher who refused to speak one word German, ta da, now I had only A and B.
@HojoOSanagi Is French a required class in Canada or can you chose between languages? I am always unsure how important it is to be able to speak French to live in Canada. The official immigration website is also a tad unclear about it.
It's required until up to grade ten in most places but we start in primary school, it depends on where you live really. We also usually have Spanish, German, sometimes Italian and Mandarin. It really depends on the city and who makes up the majority of the populace: those cities with Polish ancestry for the most part tend to have Polish, and then it's the same for Ukrainian, or Russian etc..If you are in Northern Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick,or PEI it's probably best to know it
@HojoOSanagi Wow, that is impressive, nice to see that it really matters what kind of language is relevant for the area you live in. It would be interesting if European school would start teaching Arabian languages because these are the biggest minorities normally...
Thanks for telling me which states I have to look out for as long as my French isn't really good.
Also I should state that we have three dialects which one can learn: Acadian for the Maritime provinces, Quebecois (or Joual) for Quebec and then the rest of the country usually starts with Quebecois and switches to Parisian in high school. In University, they teach you every French dialect if you major in it.
@HojoOSanagi Dialects... as if multilingual life wasn't complicated enough. But that is typical, I'm actually astonished that there are only three dialects.
All French dialects?! Aren't there several hundred of them?
Well, all of the major ones which are mutually unintelligible they learn, or at least my French teachers had to at their universities. They also usually will live in a few French speaking countries I find to improve their dialectical speech.
Actually there is also Michif as a dialect, but I count that as a language all on its own since it's half Cree(Widest spoken native language in Canada)-half French.
@unknown1730 Metal is normally filed in the Hard Rock section, in Munich it is a section of its own.
My love to Metal actually started in the library, with my father and me looking over the music sections and sampling. He thought the "Saxon - Dogs of War" looked interesting, so we got it and from then on I always took some Metal CDs home from the library.
Munich has several hundred and Bergen at least some dozens, including a variety from Metallica to Soilwork.
@Tacticalgearhead Sounds wonderful, while I am a real big fan of audio books, I still prefer reading on real paper. Unless I find out that there finally is a good, affordable electronic reader, than I might feel tempted... ah, I'm a cyber enthusiast with some antiquary quirks :)
@CaraDanaellea I've got an Amazon Kindle and I can read Nook and iBooks on my iPad, but I still prefer the old-fashioned books, the feel and the excitement of turning a real page can never be replaced by technology.
@Tacticalgearhead I checked your Channel but there is no review of either of them. My Dad and I are thinking hard about getting a Kindle, since be both are book-lovers but none of us has the space to have all the books we want. He works with computers and therefore his eyes have become bad, so I don't want him to ruin them further by looking at something that isn't at least as comfortable as real paper. Esp. since at that price it's no just-try it. What would you say is the best option?
Hallo! I'm a new sub,
Thanks for sharing this. I was in Molde throughout August and I loved exploring the mountains and such around there. I was going to come to Bergen to see a metal show, but I didn't get the chance because it was too expensive.
I will definitely visit Bergen at some point, though!
scottie0904 1 year ago
@scottie0904 Hi Scottie and thanks for the sub! :)
It's no surprise that the show was too expensive, everything here costs a lot. But I'm sure the mountains were beautiful as well. If you visit Bergen while Skall and I'm still here we could do something together.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea I appreciate the invitation!
That would be lovely. I have to finish my studies first, but I definitely want to go back to Norway after that. I guess we will see what our situations are when I'm finished! : )
Scott
scottie0904 1 year ago
@scottie0904 I'm always interested in meeting people from all over the world. Skall and I will be in Bergen until July this year, after that, we're going to be 450 km farther north in Trondheim.
What do you study?
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea I study Archaeology and Ancient History. I'll be studying Anthropology and Archaeology next year, though, and that will last for 3 years. So, I guess if we were to meet, it would have to be somewhere other than Bergen! ^^
That's no issue though. I love Norway, and generally lush lands such as they are in Europe. Skall has already assisted me in sending his thesis! I will dig into it once I've finished my current assignment(s) :)
And yes, meeting good people is very fun!
scottie0904 1 year ago
@scottie0904 Ah, Skall has three years of Archaeology study under his belt as well, but it became so dry and frustrating that he decided to start from zero when we immigrated to Norway.
So you'll end up with degrees in anthropology and archaeology in three years if I get you right, wow, I wish I could get two degrees at once myself. On the other hand, I have more than enough work with my one bachelor thesis at the moment :D
In three years we'll probably be somewhere else again, so we'll see ;)
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea Yeah - I don't exactly have a passion for Archaeology, I don't have a passion for any subject really. It's just a good way to potentially work in different places throughout my life. That's the main thing - to experience more of the world. Exploration is my passion, even if it's just in a simple forest!
This course I'm doing at the moment isn't for a degree - it's for entrance to uni, like A-levels.
Now I'm curious.. what do YOU study? ^^
scottie0904 1 year ago
@scottie0904 A-Levels? I'm not really familiar with the UK-system I'm afraid. I took my final exams in High School (german Gymnasium) and then I could go to University. Do you have to take extra tests?
Getting into science is a sure way to get into travelling. Science today has to be international so person's with higher degrees are getting around :)
My bachelor thesis is in Psychology, the topic is the relationship between legislative strictness, people's risk perception + desired regulation
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea yeah - we have to go on to college to do "A-levels" before we can enter uni. We leave school at age 16, although I hear that is changing to 18 very soon.
A friend is studying Psychology too. She's got 2 years left! is the "desired regulation" from the perspective of legislators or "the people"? Either way, sounds interesting.. but I'd need to be in the mindset of the study to understand that title fully of course :p
scottie0904 1 year ago
@scottie0904 That's different in Germany, you have three branches of school. Classes after the 4th grade are divided according to achievement. Those having only A/B go to Gymnasium which is 8/9 years of school explicitly designed to give you an universal university competence.
I was 19 (youngest possible) when I finished.
From the viewpoint of the people, it is a tad about Europeans wanting a nanny state and Americans fearing it. I have 5 month left to my bachelor, but then 2 years to my master
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
I shall answer the French question too! Here in Western Canada,a very basic french is learn up to grade 9. ( go to grade 12 here) German is offered as second language starting in Grade 9. Unless your in province of Quebec, noone here really speaks french as a fluent language. All stores are English as well as schools. Maybe 1 out of 10 schools in BC are french? Some schools may teach in french up to grade 12, but that is only by choice.
finalfantasy4everock 1 year ago
@finalfantasy4everock Interesting, you make it sound rather exceptional to really speak French whereas Hojo paints a more francophone picture. Thanks a lot, I guess in the end it really depends where you live. *sigh* I sometimes wished it was easier to first "try" a country before really moving there...
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea yeh, you do not need french when moving to Canada. Everyone here speaks English, French is a ''second language'' unless your in the far eastern provinces, even then they know how to speak English. British Columbia Province speaks mainly English. You guys would do perfectly great here! P.S....bring some cloudberries!! :D
finalfantasy4everock 1 year ago
Jeez, your city library puts my Canadian city's libraries to shame.
rainbottes 1 year ago
@rainbottes It is quite amazing how big and well stocked the library of this tiny (250 000 inhabitants) city is. As said the state is buying a lot of books for the libraries so they don't really depend on the donations and passed on books of their users.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
I hear they don't allow books from the US as they are twice as wide as the European books. Zing. Nice video Cara. Is that a normal size for a library in Norway? It seems rather large compared to the average Library in my city. I live in Philadelphia(US); a city which closed ALL of it's public libraries down at one point(not all of them reopened) Thanks for the Book-centric peek into Bergen.
Faxu 1 year ago
@Faxu I believe more than 50% of the books are in fact American, as said, far from everything is translated, nearly none of the fiction at all. Yes, the paper formats are different which is fairly annoying but no reason to ban them... wow, Nanny Europe not banning something XD
I'd say that the size is normal for a Norwegian main library, there are smaller side branches for the suburbs. In Munich the sidebranches are nearly as big as the main library in Bergen... and Munich complains about it...
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea That book thing was a "fat American" joke in disguise. Guess I'd better go turn in my boy scout merit badge for comedy writing...
Faxu 1 year ago
@Faxu Oops... sorry, I really didn't get that since as a student I am only too well aware of the difference in book sizes. American ones don't fit well into European copy machines X)
But concerning "fat Americans", rest assured, Norwegians not only have very similar (binge)eating habits, they also are very similar in size... I just really wish the women wouldn't think that sexy enough to wear no trousers or skirts under their long shirts *blargh*
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
That was interesting. Thanks for this video
secondarylayer 1 year ago
Nice to see an Icelandic section.
thejohnmithredux 1 year ago
@thejohnmithredux Icelandinc is still somewhat "Scandinavian" so it is considered part of the extended family ;)
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
Wow, I'm amazed at the diversity of languages that your libraries contains; my library only has English, French, Spanish, and a lot of German (Most of the citizens have German, predominantly Prussian ancestry). By the way, the one you didn't know was Ethiopian(I have a lot of Ethiopian restaurants and markets in my city and know the writing system solely because you have to if you ever want to shop there and order something.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi In Europe you nearly have to be this multilingual since there simply is no one big common language and the percentage of immigrants in every single country is way higher than in America. Speaking more than one language is not an asset, it is required. Try to get a job with only one language, laughable. Two is standard, at three you have a chance of the personal clerk even looking at you.
Ethiopian? Wow, that is nice! I'd love to go shopping in one of these markets.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Yeah, here if you want to get a high class job you just have to speak French and English. Also, if you're a vegetarian, Cara, Ethiopian foods are a great choice; it's quite cheap and really healthy for you.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi Great, so I just have to polish my French... polish it good... *sigh* At the time I resisted learning it because I was forced to, now I wish I could still speak it. Well, relearning won't be too difficult and I'm willing to take any challenge.
Hm, now you really made me curious about Ethiopian foods and there is no way I can get it here :( Maybe I can find some recipes I don't need any unusual ingredients for.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Yeah, that's the stereotypical Canadian outlook on French (Unless you're French Canadian of course): I was forced to learn it and so I just quit, or the English I hate the French and never want to learn their god forsaken language (We have French people like that about English as well) And then they regret it. It really depends on location as well: the closer you are to Québec, the more useful it becomes. Every politician obviously needs it though.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi I believe with me it was actually less about the French per se (even though I told myself it was at that time) but the fact that I could choose between Latin and French in school. I really wanted to take Latin, but my parents forbade it and forced me into French and the mathematical branch of school.
That is the reason I had straight C or D in French until the last year where I got a teacher who refused to speak one word German, ta da, now I had only A and B.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
In my school all of the French teachers refused to speak the native language as well(English, obviously), so you caught on quite quickly.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi Is French a required class in Canada or can you chose between languages? I am always unsure how important it is to be able to speak French to live in Canada. The official immigration website is also a tad unclear about it.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
It's required until up to grade ten in most places but we start in primary school, it depends on where you live really. We also usually have Spanish, German, sometimes Italian and Mandarin. It really depends on the city and who makes up the majority of the populace: those cities with Polish ancestry for the most part tend to have Polish, and then it's the same for Ukrainian, or Russian etc..If you are in Northern Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick,or PEI it's probably best to know it
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi Wow, that is impressive, nice to see that it really matters what kind of language is relevant for the area you live in. It would be interesting if European school would start teaching Arabian languages because these are the biggest minorities normally...
Thanks for telling me which states I have to look out for as long as my French isn't really good.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Most people just keep their languages to themselves though.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Also I should state that we have three dialects which one can learn: Acadian for the Maritime provinces, Quebecois (or Joual) for Quebec and then the rest of the country usually starts with Quebecois and switches to Parisian in high school. In University, they teach you every French dialect if you major in it.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@HojoOSanagi Dialects... as if multilingual life wasn't complicated enough. But that is typical, I'm actually astonished that there are only three dialects.
All French dialects?! Aren't there several hundred of them?
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Well, all of the major ones which are mutually unintelligible they learn, or at least my French teachers had to at their universities. They also usually will live in a few French speaking countries I find to improve their dialectical speech.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea
Actually there is also Michif as a dialect, but I count that as a language all on its own since it's half Cree(Widest spoken native language in Canada)-half French.
HojoOSanagi 1 year ago
Do they have any metal in the CD section? I once found a megadeth CD at my local library XD
unknown1730 1 year ago
@unknown1730 Metal is normally filed in the Hard Rock section, in Munich it is a section of its own.
My love to Metal actually started in the library, with my father and me looking over the music sections and sampling. He thought the "Saxon - Dogs of War" looked interesting, so we got it and from then on I always took some Metal CDs home from the library.
Munich has several hundred and Bergen at least some dozens, including a variety from Metallica to Soilwork.
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
Oh thanks for sharing this Cara! I love public libraries and books.
Tacticalgearhead 1 year ago
@Tacticalgearhead Glad you liked it. And great to hear that not every one has forgot how important libraries and books are :)
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea my dream is to have room in my house filled with oak bookshelves and stacked from floor to ceiling with books.
Tacticalgearhead 1 year ago
@Tacticalgearhead Sounds wonderful, while I am a real big fan of audio books, I still prefer reading on real paper. Unless I find out that there finally is a good, affordable electronic reader, than I might feel tempted... ah, I'm a cyber enthusiast with some antiquary quirks :)
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
@CaraDanaellea I've got an Amazon Kindle and I can read Nook and iBooks on my iPad, but I still prefer the old-fashioned books, the feel and the excitement of turning a real page can never be replaced by technology.
Tacticalgearhead 1 year ago
@Tacticalgearhead I checked your Channel but there is no review of either of them. My Dad and I are thinking hard about getting a Kindle, since be both are book-lovers but none of us has the space to have all the books we want. He works with computers and therefore his eyes have become bad, so I don't want him to ruin them further by looking at something that isn't at least as comfortable as real paper. Esp. since at that price it's no just-try it. What would you say is the best option?
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago
There aren't a lot of Norwegian books published every year are there? Because that model wouldn't work in the US.
It's a public building, they better let you film.
Magyar is from Hungary.
Between you & Skall, how many languages do you both speak?
Text books are obscenely expensive.
Not a lot of wheelchair access in Norway, is there?
Nice library.
tetsubo57 1 year ago
@tetsubo57 There aren't as many books published but there also are far less libraries.
The lady I asked was stunned that somebody wanted to film at all, and seemed ashamed about how little I had to show.
Skall and I are fluent in German, English and Norwegian, read French (broken), and I understand Romanian and slowly spoken French.
If I wouldn't copy or rent my books I would be paying around 500$ each semester.
Wheelchair users can order everything at ground level + have special entrances
CaraDanaellea 1 year ago