Heresy- a word flippantly used historically and by fundamentalists today to suppress truth, intimidate, discourage, and end all discussion in order to maintain status quo, power, and control!
I said on Todd Friel's un-Christlike mockery of this video that...I'm now speaking to you, bullhorn guys, that you guys are so angry because to some extent what Rob Bell said is true. In fact, Rob hits the nail square on the head in this video and has struck a deep nerve with you. Todd, Kirk, Ray, Paul, John and all followers and admirers of Way of the Master, YOU are the Bullhorn Guy, that video was addressed to you!
And, from what I have seen and herad of Todd Friel, Kirk Cameron, Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, John Piper, and others......for people who are so adamant about "grace alone" these guys sure aren't very gracious towards others, especially those with whom they disagree with. I'm just saying. Again....ironic.
This is my favorite Rob Bell video, but evidently it is also one of his more controversial NOOMA videos........
I read through some of these comments, particularly, those of the Way of the Master camp and never ceased to be shocked! I mean, we are saved by grace through faith and my brothers from this camp uphold this so dogmatically but yet you guys are some of the most performance [or dare I say it] most works based Christians out there.....??? It's very ironic.
@droptozro I'm confused by why you're saying wrath for others but salvation for you. You seem very bent on the outcome of sinners lives when it is unimportant.
Seems to me he's hated by the Pharisee's and loved by the sinners because he doesn't come condemning them, I say he does a good job following in his rabbis footsteps :)
Scripture teaches us to expose false teachers--so I obey. Why are you judging ME about it should you truly believe one shouldn't discern truth from lies? This video in itself is a poor testimony to the world about the wrath of God and the Kingdom of God being at hand. Rob Bell takes things out of context, doesn't believe in a hell, and it shows with his huge following---Jesus didn't preach like this, sorry. Learn about the true Christ in the Bible please.
1/2 God is also love. Did Jesus go around condemning sinners? isn't to be christian to be christ-like. Christ loved the sinners as much as he loved the little ones. "God doesn't want to scare you into loving him, he wants to love you into loving him" -Kristine Johnson You say Jesus doesn't preach like this... what do you mean? Jesus invited a tax collector into his house to eat dinner with him. HE LOVED THEM. He didn't go around telling people they where going to hell.
@droptozro 2/2 You say "This video in itself is a poor testimony to the world about the wrath of God and the Kingdom of God being at hand." Guess what God isn't anger, God isn't just about sending people to hell. God is love -1 John 4:8. When people get told there going to hell it doesn't help. It tells them God doesn't love them, which is a lie. God loves the sinner, what he hates is the sin. So tell me how did Jesus preach?
"Guess what God isn't anger, God isn't just about sending people to hell"
Psalm 7:11, Psalm 11:5, Romans 1, 2 Thes 1:5-13, Matt 7:13-14 ... agreed on the second part, but no, you're completely wrong--God is angry and it will show, read Revelations for the wrath sinners will receive from Him.
Until you understand the justice of the true God of the Bible and how you DESERVE punishment---THEN will His love and mercy and grace make sense.
@selenaOhplease *edit*--meant "you're completely wrong about the 1st part"
Jesus had grace/mercy on those who were broken and repentance, the common phrase usually goes "Law to the proud, grace to the humble"--and this is what Jesus did--as with tax collectors, sinners(humble) versus Pharisees(proud). When the law brings knowledge of sin, and then the Holy Spirit convicts---THEN it's great news(Gospel) that one can be saved by Christ's blood and atonement.
...and? What does Paul's preaching have to do with Rob Bell's heresies?
That has to do with certain people claiming wisely "Oh oh oh I was taught by PAUL himself!"
We're to expose false teachers, and this video is heresy... Rob Bell takes things out of context, denies Scripture, twists Scripture, and also snakes around the direct questions. He's LOVED by the world, which makes Him NOT of God. Read the entire book of 1 John.
@droptozro I must say I agree with you. I listened to The Way of the Master - and they say you're pretty much spot on with this Rob Bell guy - he is spreading heresy...Jesus spoke more of hell than He did of Heaven...gee, I wonder why? Many Christians have gone through false conversions (as have I 30 years ago) and it is not until they actually read the Bible and obey what it says, that they truly become saved...I'm just saying...
Devemos lembrar que o inferno é real( a verdade assusta nao é) ,mas as vezes nós(cristãos)estamos tao preocupados em falar as pessoas que elas vao para o inferno que esquecemos de ama-las e assim mostra-las o amor de Deus que é muito maior que o pecado e o Inferno.
Devemos lembrar que o inferno é real( a verdade assusta nao é) ,mas as vezes nós(cristãos)estamos tao preocupados em falar as pessoas que elas vao para o inferno que esquecemos de ama-las e assim mostra-las o amor de Deus que é muito maior que o pecado e o Inferno.
Heresy- a word flippantly used historically and by fundamentalists today to suppress truth, intimidate, discourage, and end all discussion in order to maintain status quo, power, and control!
adambomb312 1 month ago
I said on Todd Friel's un-Christlike mockery of this video that...I'm now speaking to you, bullhorn guys, that you guys are so angry because to some extent what Rob Bell said is true. In fact, Rob hits the nail square on the head in this video and has struck a deep nerve with you. Todd, Kirk, Ray, Paul, John and all followers and admirers of Way of the Master, YOU are the Bullhorn Guy, that video was addressed to you!
adambomb312 1 month ago
Pharisaism happens when people are rejected for the sake of protecting ideas.
adambomb312 1 month ago
And, from what I have seen and herad of Todd Friel, Kirk Cameron, Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, John Piper, and others......for people who are so adamant about "grace alone" these guys sure aren't very gracious towards others, especially those with whom they disagree with. I'm just saying. Again....ironic.
adambomb312 1 month ago
This is my favorite Rob Bell video, but evidently it is also one of his more controversial NOOMA videos........
I read through some of these comments, particularly, those of the Way of the Master camp and never ceased to be shocked! I mean, we are saved by grace through faith and my brothers from this camp uphold this so dogmatically but yet you guys are some of the most performance [or dare I say it] most works based Christians out there.....??? It's very ironic.
adambomb312 1 month ago
8:24 Look at the wall. It says LOVE WINS.
thetrilliantwin 1 month ago
Glória a Deus *-*.
MJonees 2 months ago
@droptozro I'm confused by why you're saying wrath for others but salvation for you. You seem very bent on the outcome of sinners lives when it is unimportant.
ryneweir 6 months ago
When will the cristian church ever agree...???
714amancio 7 months ago 7
I think this was.good.
majorD01 9 months ago
Seems to me he's hated by the Pharisee's and loved by the sinners because he doesn't come condemning them, I say he does a good job following in his rabbis footsteps :)
themetime123 10 months ago 10
@Radnartjie0205
Scripture teaches us to expose false teachers--so I obey. Why are you judging ME about it should you truly believe one shouldn't discern truth from lies? This video in itself is a poor testimony to the world about the wrath of God and the Kingdom of God being at hand. Rob Bell takes things out of context, doesn't believe in a hell, and it shows with his huge following---Jesus didn't preach like this, sorry. Learn about the true Christ in the Bible please.
droptozro 10 months ago
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selenaOhplease 7 months ago
1/2 God is also love. Did Jesus go around condemning sinners? isn't to be christian to be christ-like. Christ loved the sinners as much as he loved the little ones. "God doesn't want to scare you into loving him, he wants to love you into loving him" -Kristine Johnson You say Jesus doesn't preach like this... what do you mean? Jesus invited a tax collector into his house to eat dinner with him. HE LOVED THEM. He didn't go around telling people they where going to hell.
selenaOhplease 7 months ago
@selenaOhplease
"Did Jesus go around condemning sinners?"
Yes, Go read Matthew 11, Matthew 23 then look up the definition of "woe"--Jesus pronounced condemnation on entire cities.
"God doesn't want to scare you into..."---Kristine J? who is this?
Bible - Luke 12:4-5, Isa 8:12-13, Psalm 111:10, Prov 14:26-27, Rev 14:6-7.... I can go on also.
"He didn't go around...going to hell"
Bible - Luke 13:1-5(perish is hell), Matt 3:12, Mark 9:43, Matt 5:22, Matt 8:12 ...again I can continue.
droptozro 7 months ago
@droptozro 2/2 You say "This video in itself is a poor testimony to the world about the wrath of God and the Kingdom of God being at hand." Guess what God isn't anger, God isn't just about sending people to hell. God is love -1 John 4:8. When people get told there going to hell it doesn't help. It tells them God doesn't love them, which is a lie. God loves the sinner, what he hates is the sin. So tell me how did Jesus preach?
selenaOhplease 7 months ago
@selenaOhplease
"Guess what God isn't anger, God isn't just about sending people to hell"
Psalm 7:11, Psalm 11:5, Romans 1, 2 Thes 1:5-13, Matt 7:13-14 ... agreed on the second part, but no, you're completely wrong--God is angry and it will show, read Revelations for the wrath sinners will receive from Him.
Until you understand the justice of the true God of the Bible and how you DESERVE punishment---THEN will His love and mercy and grace make sense.
droptozro 7 months ago
@selenaOhplease *edit*--meant "you're completely wrong about the 1st part"
Jesus had grace/mercy on those who were broken and repentance, the common phrase usually goes "Law to the proud, grace to the humble"--and this is what Jesus did--as with tax collectors, sinners(humble) versus Pharisees(proud). When the law brings knowledge of sin, and then the Holy Spirit convicts---THEN it's great news(Gospel) that one can be saved by Christ's blood and atonement.
Please study more, God bless
droptozro 7 months ago
@droptozro How did he preach to the women at the well? how did he preach to the prostitute? WITH LOVE!
selenaOhplease 7 months ago
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this guy is a false teacher... remove the video, you're spreading heresy
droptozro 10 months ago
@droptozro Read what Paul says: 1 CORINTHIANS 3.5-18
ramosl04 10 months ago 3
@ramosl04
...and? What does Paul's preaching have to do with Rob Bell's heresies?
That has to do with certain people claiming wisely "Oh oh oh I was taught by PAUL himself!"
We're to expose false teachers, and this video is heresy... Rob Bell takes things out of context, denies Scripture, twists Scripture, and also snakes around the direct questions. He's LOVED by the world, which makes Him NOT of God. Read the entire book of 1 John.
droptozro 10 months ago
@droptozro The world hates him.
fluffwalrus 3 months ago
@droptozro I must say I agree with you. I listened to The Way of the Master - and they say you're pretty much spot on with this Rob Bell guy - he is spreading heresy...Jesus spoke more of hell than He did of Heaven...gee, I wonder why? Many Christians have gone through false conversions (as have I 30 years ago) and it is not until they actually read the Bible and obey what it says, that they truly become saved...I'm just saying...
bensal2011 2 months ago
Devemos lembrar que o inferno é real( a verdade assusta nao é) ,mas as vezes nós(cristãos)estamos tao preocupados em falar as pessoas que elas vao para o inferno que esquecemos de ama-las e assim mostra-las o amor de Deus que é muito maior que o pecado e o Inferno.
Keylla2011 1 year ago
Devemos lembrar que o inferno é real( a verdade assusta nao é) ,mas as vezes nós(cristãos)estamos tao preocupados em falar as pessoas que elas vao para o inferno que esquecemos de ama-las e assim mostra-las o amor de Deus que é muito maior que o pecado e o Inferno.
Keylla2011 1 year ago