@ratans2 Not exactly for what I've seen. This apparently takes place sometime after the Elf Wars and before Zero1, it seems. However, I don't know if this is canon anyways so......
Guys.. Classic mega man and X are the same people...
If you actually played the games.
In mega man X1 the original mega man was put to sleep and upgraded because of
Dr Light thinking his complex mind would need more testing for the real world. Then the X series began If you play mega man the power fighters. Zero was actually DR wileys final creation. X was Lights final creation.
All in all this MMO has the 2 different mega mans because its a combination of the past and the future. hence air man
@TerrenceJohnson12 While you are correct that X and Zero are Wily and Light's final creations, Rock is not X. It is only speculation that he MIGHT be, but I believe Keiji Inafune himself or at least some officials have stated that Rock is not X. In fact, we have actually seen X being built from scratch and that on several occasions, we understand that X is a completely NEW type of robot. It's never been stated that Rock and X are the same. It seems Rockman Online is merely a crossover of sorts.
@MegaMacTV well. The time of mega man X is 21XX. The time of The original mega man is 20XX. In the game it says mega man was laid to rest and tested for 100 years. Thats why i believe they are the same people.
@TerrenceJohnson12 Are you talking about the intro sequence in X1 with Dr. Light's warning text? He was talking about X. X was created in 20XX for one reason or another and due to the reasons stated by Light, X was sealed away to undergo testing, adjustments among other things. The fate of the original Mega Man, Rock has never been stated or depicted. Which is one thing that dreadfully aggravates me. -_-
@MegaMacTV Well. Yea. A lot of things was not told by Capcom but i think alot of it sums up in my opinion that Mega Man is X because it shows some weird things alot of the games. in Mega Man Power fighters 2 Zero was being constructed the same time as the original mega man was around. In Mega Man 8 the maverick virus was shown.
@TerrenceJohnson12 Yes, Zero too was being constructed in 20XX. You are also right that the Evil Energy (or Roboenza) is most likely the origins of the Maverick Virus. Though what presented leads you to believe that Rock is X other than the century increment in time? As I have said, we have seen X being built from scratch, not simply some high-tech upgrades. X is a completely new type of robot, what would be generalized as "Reploid" after his blueprints leading to their creation.
@MegaMacTV also i forgot to mention that just because he was being built from scratch shouldnt mean anything lol. In mega man X2 serges built a body for zero. All they needed was his Chip. Its like his brain. The original brain of the original mega man could have been moved to X. Erased and remade.
@TerrenceJohnson12 Built from scratch as in, body and mind. At the end of Power Battles, Light also mentions researching A.I. more in-depth. This could be referring to the creation of X, the successor of Rock. Also, Serges merely "completed" the parts of Zero that were gathered after his destruction in X1. The reason he "completed" the body is that it is extremely likely that Serges is a manifestation of Wily, putting on the final touches. Of course, that is a whole 'nother subject in itself. =P
@MegaMacTV The only part i saw being built from scratch was his body lol. But lol serges as a manifestation of the wily. That would be cool but he dies like in 1 game. The X hunters should have been a secondary antagonist though all X games.
@TerrenceJohnson12 The body of Serges may have been destroyed, but Wily's data/soul/viral form (whatever you prefer to call it) was still around and took a second form/body, Isoc in X6. Fans are pretty certain it's Wily due to both Serges' and Isoc's knowledge and interest in Zero.
@MegaMacTV >> Dude, I have not seen or heard of ANY reference to Serges or Isoc to being a robitic form of Dr.Wily. Aside form the part that they may be interested in Zero. However, most of the time it simply looked like they just wanted his power, i.e. his Zero Virus.
@RockmanXStarForce This has never been outright said, but when you put it all together, it becomes blatantly obvious. There is definitely more to Serges and Isoc than meets the eye. The very fact that Isoc's lifeless shell was seen in X6 is evidence enough that Isoc was probably a host for "Wily". Not to mention all the things that Isoc said in X6. I implore you research Serges and Isoc on the MegaMan Knowledge Database (wikia) or MegaMan Network's wiki. Very interesting stuff. =)
@MegaMacTV I have looked at both. I will admit that there is something interesting about Isoc. However, Not enough to say that he's Wily in some form. Serges hasn't been seen since X3, and I doubt he's going to pop up anytime soon. That being said, unless Isoc pulls off something here(MMOnline), I doubt anything really proves that they were Wily.
Besides, in this game it's shown Dr.Wily and Isoc, which makes me think all the more that they're not the same.
@RockmanXStarForce Well, this game here is not canon in the original continuity. There is no possible way it could work out and be coherently accepted throughout. Rockman Online is basically a crossover game world created so all the characters can coexist. You see, there is practically more than enough information to openly infer that Isoc was a shell for Wily. Serges was the first shell, Isoc was the second "known" shell. Serges mentions Dr. Light in the japanese dialogue, even.
@MegaMacTV This game has stated that real Zero and X have long dissapeared and that the copies of Cinnamon have dreams of "Neo Arcadia" everyone here is a copy of the orginals. Theoretically, this could easily fit in between the Elf Wars and Zero1, as the copies could eventually become the Pantheons of the Zero series. However, if this game is canon, is still yet to be determined. The game hasn't come out yet. Don't count the chickens before they hatch....
@MegaMacTV As for Isoc and Serges, the only info that stands for them to be some shells for Wily, is them simply seeming to know a bit more about Zero and X then the regular Maverick and the that they look like Wily a bit. Dr.Cain who discovered knew Dr.Light as well, since he saw him in the Warning screen when he discovered X's capsule and I'm sure more than enough people knew of Dr.Light's works. Just because he knows the guy's name, doesn't mean much...>>
@RockmanXStarForce I wouldn't necessarily guage their knowledge of Zero as "a bit". Serges knew very well how to restore Zero, his inner workings, and even put the "finishing touches" on his body (at the same time, probably switching the target from Rock to X). Isoc knew in depth about Zero and was able to effortlessly immobilize him after laughing gleefully at "how strong Zero has become". Not only that, but the other comments he made practically gives an incognito Wily away. Of course...
@MegaMacTV ...Not to metion the fact that there is NO information connecting Serges to Isoc as far as the fact that they both seem to know a lot about X and Zero.
@RockmanXStarForce None of this has ever been officially stated, Keiji Inafune himself wished for the fans to leave it to their own imagination. That witty faith in the fans is practically Inafune winking in assurance. As for information linking Serges and Isoc. There is none, of course, there never had to be. As they are shells, their anonymity is best kept whilst their fame or infamy be a significant flash in the pan to achieve a greater goal. All goals in a way to guide, enhance or test Zero.
@MegaMacTV Just because Inafune-sensei never confirmed it, doesn't mean it's true. >> Besides, looking at Wily's track record, you really think he's going to create some shells to transfer his data/soul/whatever around for use while all the time testing Zero, for what? Nothing's ever happened. Inafune-sensei mearly said to keep us guessing. But if you run it logically, it doesn't really make any sense or hold to any purpose....Unless you still think that somehow Wily's Dr.Weil. >___>
@RockmanXStarForce Wily would indeed do such a thing. He wished to see his masterpiece triumph. He wished to bring Zero to his full potential. In a way, Sigma was kind of a pawn in Wily's own interests (though Sigma still did his own thing). The possessing of shells was just a way to stay under cover while driving towards the ultimate goal. There is a purpose, to make sure Zero succeeds and/or lives on as Wily's proof. His legacy. I am also aware Wily is in no way related to Weil.
@MegaMacTV OR better yet, he would have simply used the body of Zero that he had and infused himself into Zero. None of that happened, beacuse Serges wasn't Wily. As far as Isoc goes, he was just as insane like Serges and was killed when Gate or Sigma no longer needed him.
Dr.Weil knew more than enough about Zero to take his body over and then created Omega from him. You don't have to be Dr.Wily to have such an extent knowledge of Zero and that's all Serges and Isoc were.
@RockmanXStarForce None of that happened because it didn't need to happen or it couldn't. Zero wasnt an empty shell, plus components were still missing. Isoc wasn't disposed of, either. His "spirit" simply left him and only his shell remained. No sign of damage or a struggle. You may not have to be Wily to know a lot, but what they did know, and said, cannot be a mere coincidence. Keiji Inafune did indeed leave the fans to continue guessing an I feel the majority of the fanbase guessed right.=P
Also, to back up that point is the fact that you can fight Zero in X2, BECAUSE he was taken over and turned evil by Sigma. Why didn't Serges do anything then? Because he was gone and he wasn't Wily. >>
@RockmanXStarForce Gate was the one that used Zero's data to increase his power. The true canon event in X2 is that X succeeds in recovering Zero and Serges was able to create a duplicate Zero. The real Zero succeeds in destroying the copy. Knowing Wily, seeing Zero's new abilities probably delighted him...all according to plan? Zero's upgrades and Z-Saber being the final touches I spoke of. You must understand that to infer past the surface value of things reveals deeper, yet obvious truths.
@MegaMacTV Why would Dr.Wily, who has always wanted to rule the world and beat Dr.Light, be simply content to just watch Zero do whatever and allow Sigma to try and take over the world? Answer, he wouldn't. If he was Serges in X2, he would have jumped at the chance to take over what Sigma already done and instead of allowing X to take back Zero, he would have simply re-infused him with the Virus and had Zero help him take over the world. >>
@RockmanXStarForce At this point, it was less about ruling the world and more about proving his superiority to Light and his creation(s). You so soon forget that in X5, Wily actually aided Sigma in creating his new body. That can be seen as a test for Zero. Wily wouldnt jump at any chance, for Sigma is far superior in battle capacity. Not to mention Sigma now contains the majority of the virus and due to Wily's countermeasure, Zero is "normal". Also, Wily wouldn't have the virus at the time.
@MegaMacTV I know Wily did build Sigma's body in X5 as well as the other stuff as well, I didn't forget it, in fact it's my point. Why would he work for Sigma in X2 and try do nothing, only to reappear in X5 and become a lot more dominate by building Sigma's body and the other enemys, and doing what he would usually do. Try to take over the world and get Zero. >> Wily would jump at the chance to manipluate Sigma into doing his bidding, and if he was in X2, he would have done it then.
@RockmanXStarForce Wily posed as Serges in X2 to retrieve Zero's parts, put the finishing touches on them, and likely other things. In X2, Sigma knows of Wily as well as knowing of Zero's origins. However he may or may not be oblivious to what was right in front of him then. Wily then revealed himself to Sigma at some point near X5. This we know. Although, like I said, Wily probably has no desire to "rule the world" at that point. Moreso pursuing a father-like figure to Zero to complete one task
@MegaMacTV Wily was able to control the virus, the Power Battle showed that when he states he was able to create a more powerful form of Bassinaum to power Zero. Dr.Wily put the Virus into Zero and in the fight with Sigma the Virus was transfered to Sigma when he punched him in the crystal. It didn't take Wily that long to come up with a way to make it. >>
Exactly my point. If Zero was just an empty shell, he could have easily used his body to do his bidding.
@RockmanXStarForce Wily was never really able to control the virus. He created it and inserted it into Zero. That's where the virus rests, and Zero proved uncontrollable with it, so he made the countermeasure to subdue Zero in attempt to truly control him. He couldn't simply make the virus again because he lacks the "ingredients" needed to do so in the future. On a side note, I also share the theory of the crystal transfer, but dont share that on X9's forums because some peeps don't agree, lol.
@MegaMacTV Afterwards, if he wanted he could have take the Chip, alter it and then put it back in Zero's body. and a Control Chip is not a brain...>> And exactly what morals does Wily have? The reason all this started in the first place was because he wanted to rule the world with his robots and left. Don't confuse BN with the classic series. Yeah he wanted regonition, but he also wanted to rule the world.
@RockmanXStarForce Why would Wily, as Serges, try to invade MHHQ in order to take the chip to alter it? That's suicide. I also don't know why you say the control chip isn't the brain. It's been documented that it is. You can sit in a car without an engine, but you can't drive it. Same with Wily infecting the rest of Zero's body. Like I said, he wouldnt take control because that would defeat the entire purpose of creating Zero in the first place. Zero wouldnt be Zero, Wily's creation, anymore.
@MegaMacTV "Ladies and gentlemen. Your attention, please. The name's Wily... The brilliant scientist, Dr. Wily! This may seem rather sudden to you, but I've decided I'd like to take over the world!" ―Dr. Wily
@RockmanXStarForce Zero would be Wily. Wily made Zero to prove to himself, first and foremost, that he was greater than Light and any of his creations. He wouldnt cheat and just take control. Wily isn't heartless. Wily isn't entirely evil. Just look at the end of MM10. The morals the old man has in 21XX is what I have been saying. Closure, self-worth, contentment. He can't take over the world now, he has been superseded my Sigma, who isnt so different.
@RockmanXStarForce In the end, I just cannot fathom purposely overlooking obvious hints at what's behind the curtain. That in itself doesn't make any sense. If you wish to discuss this more, with a bunch of other fans too, please feel free to register with us at MegaManX9(dot)com and make a forum topic! I don't think dear Jeff wants this vid to be cluttered with off-topic conversation (even though it is interesting). =P
@MegaMacTV lolol, well true to that. However, while I do se a LOT of holes in your thories(as I'm sure you do with mine) I'll end it here as well. I know of X9, but I usually just stick to the MMNetwork and I've had my share of aruging over there as well, lolol. needless to say, I do enjoy debating with you. ^_^
@MegaMacTV And you're talking about the guy who made the Virus. I'm sure he wouldn't have any touble making more and using it to infect Zero, regardless. Which is why you have X5 in the first place. >>
@RockmanXStarForce That task being defeating X and giving Wily closure. The root of Wily's evil was his desire for respect and recognition anyway. Although none of that really matters now, aside from what I stated. Wily also cannot create the virus at will. He took time to form a derivative from the Evil Energy (or Roboenza) to create it for Zero. It then multiplied and manifested itself within Zero and then Zero's stasis capsule, and then through their battle, found it's way into Sigma. Growing
@MegaMacTV Yes in X2 Zero was an empty shell, he died and his memory chips was stored in Hunter H.Q.
Isoc was probably erased. If it was a nightmare or whatever, it's basicly the same thing. And I don't think it was just a coincidence, but were they Wily? No. Crazy Mavericks wanting to gain Zero's power and help promote Zero to make him more popular? Sure. >>
@RockmanXStarForce Zero was an empty shell in the sense that his Control Chip, his brain, not his memory, was safeguarded at MHHQ, but that would make it impossible for Wily to interface. Without a complete system, a control chip to actually use and maintain conciousness within, it would be useless. Though, Wily wouldnt interface Zero anyway. That would go against his morals and methods concerning his goal and plans for Zero. Serges and Isoc didn't want Zero's power, they had their motives.
@FalzarZ What? X and Rock are two separated robots ever, capcom never try to said that are the same robot, just some fans believes that because... they probably don´t read game manuals and stuff
@SenshiSam Indeed, indeed. That and they try to use whatever means they can to explain things inbetween series. Like the Zero apocalypse thing. >> Not that I don't like to guess as well, but it's a good idea to know what has alredy been said, yeah?
There's something I love about the end when Classic Mega Man shows up, but I don't know what. I really wish they would just make a regular X Series game, ever since X6 or X7 it seems like they just keep changing stuff.
I need the link of that remix¡¡¡
TyrsFire 1 month ago
I know who megan, megaman x, and zero are but who is the other guy with them?
asome232 3 months ago
1:18
Who is this guy?
AquaPhoenix2006 7 months ago
one person is a Dr. Wahwee minion.
ChaseLightining 7 months ago
1:57 TIME PARADOX
xXMidoraiXx 1 year ago
holy cow, time paradox!!!?????
ratans2 1 year ago
@ratans2 Not exactly for what I've seen. This apparently takes place sometime after the Elf Wars and before Zero1, it seems. However, I don't know if this is canon anyways so......
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
Is this seriously made by Capcom? this looks great! i love the animations, and it would be perfect for Mega Man X to be a MMORPG
GalaxiaShadow 1 year ago
Guys.. Classic mega man and X are the same people...
If you actually played the games.
In mega man X1 the original mega man was put to sleep and upgraded because of
Dr Light thinking his complex mind would need more testing for the real world. Then the X series began If you play mega man the power fighters. Zero was actually DR wileys final creation. X was Lights final creation.
All in all this MMO has the 2 different mega mans because its a combination of the past and the future. hence air man
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@TerrenceJohnson12 While you are correct that X and Zero are Wily and Light's final creations, Rock is not X. It is only speculation that he MIGHT be, but I believe Keiji Inafune himself or at least some officials have stated that Rock is not X. In fact, we have actually seen X being built from scratch and that on several occasions, we understand that X is a completely NEW type of robot. It's never been stated that Rock and X are the same. It seems Rockman Online is merely a crossover of sorts.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV well. The time of mega man X is 21XX. The time of The original mega man is 20XX. In the game it says mega man was laid to rest and tested for 100 years. Thats why i believe they are the same people.
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@TerrenceJohnson12 Are you talking about the intro sequence in X1 with Dr. Light's warning text? He was talking about X. X was created in 20XX for one reason or another and due to the reasons stated by Light, X was sealed away to undergo testing, adjustments among other things. The fate of the original Mega Man, Rock has never been stated or depicted. Which is one thing that dreadfully aggravates me. -_-
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Well. Yea. A lot of things was not told by Capcom but i think alot of it sums up in my opinion that Mega Man is X because it shows some weird things alot of the games. in Mega Man Power fighters 2 Zero was being constructed the same time as the original mega man was around. In Mega Man 8 the maverick virus was shown.
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@TerrenceJohnson12 Yes, Zero too was being constructed in 20XX. You are also right that the Evil Energy (or Roboenza) is most likely the origins of the Maverick Virus. Though what presented leads you to believe that Rock is X other than the century increment in time? As I have said, we have seen X being built from scratch, not simply some high-tech upgrades. X is a completely new type of robot, what would be generalized as "Reploid" after his blueprints leading to their creation.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV well its weird. Lets just leave capcom to it lol. they show peice by peice of the history with every game.
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV also i forgot to mention that just because he was being built from scratch shouldnt mean anything lol. In mega man X2 serges built a body for zero. All they needed was his Chip. Its like his brain. The original brain of the original mega man could have been moved to X. Erased and remade.
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@TerrenceJohnson12 Built from scratch as in, body and mind. At the end of Power Battles, Light also mentions researching A.I. more in-depth. This could be referring to the creation of X, the successor of Rock. Also, Serges merely "completed" the parts of Zero that were gathered after his destruction in X1. The reason he "completed" the body is that it is extremely likely that Serges is a manifestation of Wily, putting on the final touches. Of course, that is a whole 'nother subject in itself. =P
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV The only part i saw being built from scratch was his body lol. But lol serges as a manifestation of the wily. That would be cool but he dies like in 1 game. The X hunters should have been a secondary antagonist though all X games.
TerrenceJohnson12 1 year ago
@TerrenceJohnson12 The body of Serges may have been destroyed, but Wily's data/soul/viral form (whatever you prefer to call it) was still around and took a second form/body, Isoc in X6. Fans are pretty certain it's Wily due to both Serges' and Isoc's knowledge and interest in Zero.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV >> Dude, I have not seen or heard of ANY reference to Serges or Isoc to being a robitic form of Dr.Wily. Aside form the part that they may be interested in Zero. However, most of the time it simply looked like they just wanted his power, i.e. his Zero Virus.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce This has never been outright said, but when you put it all together, it becomes blatantly obvious. There is definitely more to Serges and Isoc than meets the eye. The very fact that Isoc's lifeless shell was seen in X6 is evidence enough that Isoc was probably a host for "Wily". Not to mention all the things that Isoc said in X6. I implore you research Serges and Isoc on the MegaMan Knowledge Database (wikia) or MegaMan Network's wiki. Very interesting stuff. =)
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV I have looked at both. I will admit that there is something interesting about Isoc. However, Not enough to say that he's Wily in some form. Serges hasn't been seen since X3, and I doubt he's going to pop up anytime soon. That being said, unless Isoc pulls off something here(MMOnline), I doubt anything really proves that they were Wily.
Besides, in this game it's shown Dr.Wily and Isoc, which makes me think all the more that they're not the same.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Well, this game here is not canon in the original continuity. There is no possible way it could work out and be coherently accepted throughout. Rockman Online is basically a crossover game world created so all the characters can coexist. You see, there is practically more than enough information to openly infer that Isoc was a shell for Wily. Serges was the first shell, Isoc was the second "known" shell. Serges mentions Dr. Light in the japanese dialogue, even.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV This game has stated that real Zero and X have long dissapeared and that the copies of Cinnamon have dreams of "Neo Arcadia" everyone here is a copy of the orginals. Theoretically, this could easily fit in between the Elf Wars and Zero1, as the copies could eventually become the Pantheons of the Zero series. However, if this game is canon, is still yet to be determined. The game hasn't come out yet. Don't count the chickens before they hatch....
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV As for Isoc and Serges, the only info that stands for them to be some shells for Wily, is them simply seeming to know a bit more about Zero and X then the regular Maverick and the that they look like Wily a bit. Dr.Cain who discovered knew Dr.Light as well, since he saw him in the Warning screen when he discovered X's capsule and I'm sure more than enough people knew of Dr.Light's works. Just because he knows the guy's name, doesn't mean much...>>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce I wouldn't necessarily guage their knowledge of Zero as "a bit". Serges knew very well how to restore Zero, his inner workings, and even put the "finishing touches" on his body (at the same time, probably switching the target from Rock to X). Isoc knew in depth about Zero and was able to effortlessly immobilize him after laughing gleefully at "how strong Zero has become". Not only that, but the other comments he made practically gives an incognito Wily away. Of course...
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV ...Not to metion the fact that there is NO information connecting Serges to Isoc as far as the fact that they both seem to know a lot about X and Zero.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce None of this has ever been officially stated, Keiji Inafune himself wished for the fans to leave it to their own imagination. That witty faith in the fans is practically Inafune winking in assurance. As for information linking Serges and Isoc. There is none, of course, there never had to be. As they are shells, their anonymity is best kept whilst their fame or infamy be a significant flash in the pan to achieve a greater goal. All goals in a way to guide, enhance or test Zero.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Just because Inafune-sensei never confirmed it, doesn't mean it's true. >> Besides, looking at Wily's track record, you really think he's going to create some shells to transfer his data/soul/whatever around for use while all the time testing Zero, for what? Nothing's ever happened. Inafune-sensei mearly said to keep us guessing. But if you run it logically, it doesn't really make any sense or hold to any purpose....Unless you still think that somehow Wily's Dr.Weil. >___>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Wily would indeed do such a thing. He wished to see his masterpiece triumph. He wished to bring Zero to his full potential. In a way, Sigma was kind of a pawn in Wily's own interests (though Sigma still did his own thing). The possessing of shells was just a way to stay under cover while driving towards the ultimate goal. There is a purpose, to make sure Zero succeeds and/or lives on as Wily's proof. His legacy. I am also aware Wily is in no way related to Weil.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV OR better yet, he would have simply used the body of Zero that he had and infused himself into Zero. None of that happened, beacuse Serges wasn't Wily. As far as Isoc goes, he was just as insane like Serges and was killed when Gate or Sigma no longer needed him.
Dr.Weil knew more than enough about Zero to take his body over and then created Omega from him. You don't have to be Dr.Wily to have such an extent knowledge of Zero and that's all Serges and Isoc were.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce None of that happened because it didn't need to happen or it couldn't. Zero wasnt an empty shell, plus components were still missing. Isoc wasn't disposed of, either. His "spirit" simply left him and only his shell remained. No sign of damage or a struggle. You may not have to be Wily to know a lot, but what they did know, and said, cannot be a mere coincidence. Keiji Inafune did indeed leave the fans to continue guessing an I feel the majority of the fanbase guessed right.=P
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV *Memory Chip.
Also, to back up that point is the fact that you can fight Zero in X2, BECAUSE he was taken over and turned evil by Sigma. Why didn't Serges do anything then? Because he was gone and he wasn't Wily. >>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Gate was the one that used Zero's data to increase his power. The true canon event in X2 is that X succeeds in recovering Zero and Serges was able to create a duplicate Zero. The real Zero succeeds in destroying the copy. Knowing Wily, seeing Zero's new abilities probably delighted him...all according to plan? Zero's upgrades and Z-Saber being the final touches I spoke of. You must understand that to infer past the surface value of things reveals deeper, yet obvious truths.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce As a matter of fact, that very topic was of recent discussion on the MMX9 forums. =P.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Why would Dr.Wily, who has always wanted to rule the world and beat Dr.Light, be simply content to just watch Zero do whatever and allow Sigma to try and take over the world? Answer, he wouldn't. If he was Serges in X2, he would have jumped at the chance to take over what Sigma already done and instead of allowing X to take back Zero, he would have simply re-infused him with the Virus and had Zero help him take over the world. >>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce At this point, it was less about ruling the world and more about proving his superiority to Light and his creation(s). You so soon forget that in X5, Wily actually aided Sigma in creating his new body. That can be seen as a test for Zero. Wily wouldnt jump at any chance, for Sigma is far superior in battle capacity. Not to mention Sigma now contains the majority of the virus and due to Wily's countermeasure, Zero is "normal". Also, Wily wouldn't have the virus at the time.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV I know Wily did build Sigma's body in X5 as well as the other stuff as well, I didn't forget it, in fact it's my point. Why would he work for Sigma in X2 and try do nothing, only to reappear in X5 and become a lot more dominate by building Sigma's body and the other enemys, and doing what he would usually do. Try to take over the world and get Zero. >> Wily would jump at the chance to manipluate Sigma into doing his bidding, and if he was in X2, he would have done it then.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Wily posed as Serges in X2 to retrieve Zero's parts, put the finishing touches on them, and likely other things. In X2, Sigma knows of Wily as well as knowing of Zero's origins. However he may or may not be oblivious to what was right in front of him then. Wily then revealed himself to Sigma at some point near X5. This we know. Although, like I said, Wily probably has no desire to "rule the world" at that point. Moreso pursuing a father-like figure to Zero to complete one task
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Wily was able to control the virus, the Power Battle showed that when he states he was able to create a more powerful form of Bassinaum to power Zero. Dr.Wily put the Virus into Zero and in the fight with Sigma the Virus was transfered to Sigma when he punched him in the crystal. It didn't take Wily that long to come up with a way to make it. >>
Exactly my point. If Zero was just an empty shell, he could have easily used his body to do his bidding.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Wily was never really able to control the virus. He created it and inserted it into Zero. That's where the virus rests, and Zero proved uncontrollable with it, so he made the countermeasure to subdue Zero in attempt to truly control him. He couldn't simply make the virus again because he lacks the "ingredients" needed to do so in the future. On a side note, I also share the theory of the crystal transfer, but dont share that on X9's forums because some peeps don't agree, lol.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Afterwards, if he wanted he could have take the Chip, alter it and then put it back in Zero's body. and a Control Chip is not a brain...>> And exactly what morals does Wily have? The reason all this started in the first place was because he wanted to rule the world with his robots and left. Don't confuse BN with the classic series. Yeah he wanted regonition, but he also wanted to rule the world.
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Why would Wily, as Serges, try to invade MHHQ in order to take the chip to alter it? That's suicide. I also don't know why you say the control chip isn't the brain. It's been documented that it is. You can sit in a car without an engine, but you can't drive it. Same with Wily infecting the rest of Zero's body. Like I said, he wouldnt take control because that would defeat the entire purpose of creating Zero in the first place. Zero wouldnt be Zero, Wily's creation, anymore.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV "Ladies and gentlemen. Your attention, please. The name's Wily... The brilliant scientist, Dr. Wily! This may seem rather sudden to you, but I've decided I'd like to take over the world!" ―Dr. Wily
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Zero would be Wily. Wily made Zero to prove to himself, first and foremost, that he was greater than Light and any of his creations. He wouldnt cheat and just take control. Wily isn't heartless. Wily isn't entirely evil. Just look at the end of MM10. The morals the old man has in 21XX is what I have been saying. Closure, self-worth, contentment. He can't take over the world now, he has been superseded my Sigma, who isnt so different.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce In the end, I just cannot fathom purposely overlooking obvious hints at what's behind the curtain. That in itself doesn't make any sense. If you wish to discuss this more, with a bunch of other fans too, please feel free to register with us at MegaManX9(dot)com and make a forum topic! I don't think dear Jeff wants this vid to be cluttered with off-topic conversation (even though it is interesting). =P
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV lolol, well true to that. However, while I do se a LOT of holes in your thories(as I'm sure you do with mine) I'll end it here as well. I know of X9, but I usually just stick to the MMNetwork and I've had my share of aruging over there as well, lolol. needless to say, I do enjoy debating with you. ^_^
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV And you're talking about the guy who made the Virus. I'm sure he wouldn't have any touble making more and using it to infect Zero, regardless. Which is why you have X5 in the first place. >>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce That task being defeating X and giving Wily closure. The root of Wily's evil was his desire for respect and recognition anyway. Although none of that really matters now, aside from what I stated. Wily also cannot create the virus at will. He took time to form a derivative from the Evil Energy (or Roboenza) to create it for Zero. It then multiplied and manifested itself within Zero and then Zero's stasis capsule, and then through their battle, found it's way into Sigma. Growing
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
@MegaMacTV Yes in X2 Zero was an empty shell, he died and his memory chips was stored in Hunter H.Q.
Isoc was probably erased. If it was a nightmare or whatever, it's basicly the same thing. And I don't think it was just a coincidence, but were they Wily? No. Crazy Mavericks wanting to gain Zero's power and help promote Zero to make him more popular? Sure. >>
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@RockmanXStarForce Zero was an empty shell in the sense that his Control Chip, his brain, not his memory, was safeguarded at MHHQ, but that would make it impossible for Wily to interface. Without a complete system, a control chip to actually use and maintain conciousness within, it would be useless. Though, Wily wouldnt interface Zero anyway. That would go against his morals and methods concerning his goal and plans for Zero. Serges and Isoc didn't want Zero's power, they had their motives.
MegaMacTV 1 year ago
I hope this MMO lets you go up against the majority of villains from the Megaman/Rockman universe for example Tengu-Man from Megaman 8!
:) He was awesome.
FueledByVengeance 1 year ago
This needs to be turned into a full length animated movie.
Testsubject909 1 year ago 7
@Testsubject909 *insert Like button here*
AlphaAxl 1 year ago 3
wait wait! classic mega man and X are 2 different people?! I always thought X was upgraded megaman
unprofessionalvids 1 year ago
@unprofessionalvids >_______> That has been know for quite a while now. Inafune has stated that they were different a long time ago......
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
@unprofessionalvids Orignaly yes but Cacom has scrap that idea for some time now. They are two different people now.
FalzarZ 1 year ago
@FalzarZ What? X and Rock are two separated robots ever, capcom never try to said that are the same robot, just some fans believes that because... they probably don´t read game manuals and stuff
SenshiSam 1 year ago
@SenshiSam Indeed, indeed. That and they try to use whatever means they can to explain things inbetween series. Like the Zero apocalypse thing. >> Not that I don't like to guess as well, but it's a good idea to know what has alredy been said, yeah?
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
BURN TO THE GROUND
SuperSketch008 1 year ago
There's something I love about the end when Classic Mega Man shows up, but I don't know what. I really wish they would just make a regular X Series game, ever since X6 or X7 it seems like they just keep changing stuff.
BaconStein 1 year ago
megaman classic meets megaman x
farias1280 1 year ago
i want this game instead of Megaman Universe.
legendaryhero90 1 year ago 8
@legendaryhero90 Same here -_-
AlphaAxl 1 year ago
I see the Gendo Ikari Pose at 1:05.
ThanatosZero 1 year ago
I CAN defeat Airman, but where is Sigma? D:
Milkmanfire 1 year ago
FREAKING EPIC!!! I want to play this game so bad! Haha! Man, I wish I was in Korea right now. hahaha!
RockmanXStarForce 1 year ago
So FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!
Marioshi64 1 year ago