Everything you ever needed to know about the Rapture of the Church! Taking away!

[vottoduder]

What do you expect? When you have a group of gullible people that believe in the supernatural, paranormal, magic, superstition and voodoo, then it should be obvious that none of them have a clear grip on reality anyway. People that believe that strong belief and faith somehow equals knowledge. People that refuse to do their own research and gather evidence to come up with a rational conclusion, who would rather listen to someone elses interpretation instead of using their own brain. Its silly.

[rossdaboss1959]

I won't argue over the rapture. The word Bible, demons, and a lot more are not in the Bible, but people still believe. If u want to believe there's no rapture, then you're right. There's no rapture for those that doubt God. If u don't want to ask God to open your understanding, then that's up to u. Nobody is going to make me believe otherwise. I can still feel and talk to God today and get answers. So i think u better try it before it's too late. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation.

[sovietkazakh]

How should I put this without making a bunch of super-fanatical Christians pounce on me... Do you honestly believe that God (who is all-loving and forgiving) will throw the "sinners" of our world, which according to Christianity and other religions, is everyone, into an eternity of unimaginable agony? Suppose that's true, that would mean God, being an all-knowledgeable being, is purposely making people who WILL do something wrong that he would know about, and thus damn them for nothing. BS

[rossdaboss1959]

check out DR OWUOR on here. The state of the church.

[SolomonSeries]

Could this be something to consider?

[MnSPictures]

@SolomonSeries im just gonna say, dr owuor has by biblical standars proven himself to be a prophet, therefore he can be trusted.

[Musicman81Indy]

Pre trib believers are like students who think they are getting out of school early. But when the time comes when they thought they would get out, there is no final bell. Instead, they are all handed a 100 question test. A test they haven't even studied for. They are all in a panic, and they have no idea what is going on,

[SolomonSeries]

Interesting perspective. I wonder if anyone anywhere can tell me where it says to argue about the tribulation? Churches all over the worl divide over this issue, when it looks like the work of someone other than God. Think about it!

[Musicman81Indy]

@SolomonSeries 4 The Bible tells us to correct those who have wrong doctrine. All it takes is a slow and careful reading of Matthew 24 to know that Jesus is only coming back one more time, not twice. If someone is teaching something that is not found in the word of god, we are suppose to confront them and correct them. There are many scriptures that prove a post trib rapture. Jesus even said, "AFTER the days of tribulation, a great trumpet will sound, and the angels will gather the elect.

[SolomonSeries]

The word "rapture" is no where to be found in the Biblical Text. It is a concept developed by man to keep others in fear. It is also a doctrine used to split the people of God. Why can't folks agree they do not understand this concept and come together to seek truth. Jesus prayed for unity in John 17, not what we have today.

[mkmason2002]

@SolomonSeries Where in the Bible does it say to argue about anything? If the Bible were to comment on everything no one would ever be able to read it. The Bible does say to study out the scriptures. Should we as a body in Christ NOT point out false prophets, deceptive teachers & error within the body, esp. if that deception is from Satan to harm the church?

Wisdom teaches one to think before making critical comments, a worthwhile practice if you ever want to live up to your username Solomon.

[SolomonSeries]

That is one way to look at it. Meanwhile it seems like a pretty divisive message. People argue like they think they know. Odd, very odd.

[mkmason2002]

A PRE-TRIB RAPTURE IS A HOAX FROM SATAN! 1 Corn 15 says the rapture will come at the LAST trumpet, the 7th trumpet. 2 Thess. 2 says our gathering together will NOT occur UNTIL the son of perdition comes ot the temple and will claim to be God. This occurs 3 1/2 years into the trib.

Study out the word of God, don't listen to false teachers. Jesus warned us in Matthew!

For info on preparing go to spiritwars at dot net.

Prepare now, time is running out!

A economic collapse is coming in 2010!

[Musicman81Indy]

@mkmason2002 FINALLY, someone is speaking the truth. Jesus said "AFTER the tribulation of those days a great trumpet will sound and the angels will gather the elect of God from the 4 winds and from one end of heaven to the other. THIS is the rapture. Also, Acts 3 says Jesus must REMAIN IN HEAVEN until the Father restores all things. The tribulation is NOT a restoration time. Restoration begins AFTER the tribulation. I have much more proof if you're interested.

[mkmason2002]

@Musicman81Indy I think you would enjoy my site, "Prepare Before All Hell Breaks Loose!" at spiritwars at dot net., "Timing of the Rapture." Rapture is really more accurately termed the resurrection. Hal Lindsey & the "Left Behind" lot have sold us on the rapture term when the truest concept is the resurrection. Satan is brilliant, devising a plan to keep the church unprepared for the 70th Week of Daniel. Where is the promise of His coming they will say & many so called believers will fall away

[SolomonSeries]

The word "rapture" is no where to be found in the Bible. It is a doctrinal concept by man mostly. It is a divisive message that splits the people of God. Anyone who thinks they know about this concept is likely a deceiver and is working for the wrong side........If "theologians" knew so much about the future, then why can they not tell us anything about the history of the Bible? Do you realize that they have historical Bible times all messed up. Would you listen to them about the future?

[rossdaboss1959]

@mkmason2002 u are being used by the devil because u refuse to study before speaking. Study the book of Daniel and ask God to help u. There's a different in the judgment trumpet or last trumpet and the feast trumpet. Study the feast trumpet before u mislead more people and be judged by God.

[johnthreesixteen316]

The important issue which unites the Body of Christ (the true church) is their acceptance of Christ's sacrifice on the cross for their sins. This is what our salvation is based upon. Whether you believe pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation or post-tribulation has no bearing on your salvation.

[SolomonSeries]

Yet all the tribulation messages divide. Seems like the devil is busy at work in this tribulation argument. Can't you see how destructive it is?

[johnthreesixteen316]

@SolomonSeries Hello friend. The devil and his co-workers are always trying to destroy the church.

[SolomonSeries]

The devil is trying to destroy the church. Do you know what the best thing about being a "Christian" is? Anyone can be one. Do you know the WORST thing about being a "Christian"? Same answer, ANYONE can be one. Some people remain who they were rather than moving thru transformation. I assure you a house divided will fall and messages of post tribulation, pre tribulation, and mid tribulation split the church and are works of the devil. Test it and see.

[johnthreesixteen316]

Pre-trib does not convey the idea that it will be too late when you realize the truth. Any non-believing individual who is living during the tribulation will have his/her opportunity to come to Christ.

[SolomonSeries]

What an interesting response. Have you ever thought of how divisive the concept of Post-Trib, Mid-Trib, and Pre-Trib is to the Church? It looks to me like a message of a less than heavenly form, because a House Divided shall not stand. I find it interesting that so many people are so convinced of something that is so uncertain at best. It is sad that a positive message can be made so destructive at the hands of people who claim to be serving God.

[Ltaxe1]

it would be better to be a fool and stay silent then to open your mouth and remove all dought

[SolomonSeries]

Thank you for opening up! 

[johnthreesixteen316]

The word harpazo is in the Bible.

[SolomonSeries]

Are you hanging your hopes on the idea of harpazo?

[shadomst]

The man of perdition must be revealed first,(a key point the apostle Paul stressed), before the Church meets Christ Jesus in the air. We will rocket out of here at the sound of the seventh trump to avoid YHWH's wrath; but prior to that we will go through "interesting" times. What's the big deal, anyway? I'm more concerned with doing YHWH's will than looking up in the clouds.

[SolomonSeries]

You actually help to make my point. In your simple, short blog above you post opinionated ideas of when and how it will happen (timing) which religious people use to divide the Church. One point you make is that we should not worry, good. One (bad) point is that you assume timing. Timing and the manner in which it happens destroys the foundations and understanding of mankind.

[shadomst]

I really didn't want to get involved in this discussion; I already agreed with the points you made.

I'm more interested in your work on the great pyramid and Solomon's temple, Ark of the Covenant, etc. You stated that the fiip-flop method of moving stones was apparently the precusor of the wheel [i.e. flipping Ispinning) the stone around its own axis]. You seem to be a genius with a wry sense of humor -- or a complete nut. God Bless.

[SolomonSeries]

You know what they say about genius and insanity! HA! HA! About the flip flop method, ALL of the tools, paths, and evidence are clearly visible today. It is very simple with nothing missing to do it today (or any day). The "wheel"in parts of Egypt would be worthless due to sand and rocks, but when the "round"is built in to the ground, then a "flat" can be rolled on it. It is the wheel in reverse. I assure it it is there and it works. Nut maybe, nutty enough to take on a jaded past.

[shadomst]

A slender thread is the barrier between genius and insanity, they say. Are you working with Ron Wyatt or Jonathan Gray on your Ark of the Covenant project?

[SolomonSeries]

Ron Wyatt has passed away....As for his work, with all due respect...Mr Wyatt did some amazing work, BUT he did get carried away on some ideas that were not as well grounded/founded. The fame wrecked a truthful foundation. In other words he improvised as all preachers have since the beginning of time to fill in gaps in his understanding. What we now see in our research is that with patience God will bring all the resources and people together....Patience is a hard teacher. We have much to...

[shadomst]

The rapture question is a superfluous distraction driven by the flesh..

[SolomonSeries]

My point exactly (sort of!). People are distracted by the creation of fear and such terms and concepts that drive division among people who Jesus prayed in John 17 would come together. It is mostly supported by manmade ideas of division. Test the spirit behind it!

[o0oPierceDalyo0o]

good points

[SolomonSeries]

My point exactly (sort of!). People are distracted by the creation of fear and such terms and concepts that drive division among people who Jesus prayed in John 17 would come together. It is mostly supported by manmade ideas of division. Test the spirit behind it!