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  • John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

  • Does it matter whether OSAS is truth or not. If people dont believe in OSAS then they will go to heaven for obeying his comandments and repenting. but if OSAS is a lie then all those who believe in it will be condemed. therefore i know that repenting for your sins wouldnt hurt.

  • You sin every day young man. If sin can cause you to lose salvation, then you are lost. If sin causes you to lose salvation then ANY SIN will cause you to lose it. According to Hebrews, which I am not a Hebrew, but according to Hebrews, If you lose it, you cannot get it back. Furthermore, according to Pauline doctrine a NT believer is placed into the body of Christ...so if I am saved and then lose it, and as a result I go to hell..that means part of Christ's body goes to hell...Thats foolish.

  • i believe osas is the truth because JESUS preach it.read this and tell me osas is a lie you calling jesus a liar: JOHN 6:37-40.JOHN 10:28-29.2 TIMO 2:12-13.ROM 8:38-39. AND HEB 13:5 and the devil is goin to hell not because he dont repent is because hes condem all ready GOD created the hell for himm read the bible more and stop talking nonsence kid

  • You cannot sin under Grace. You are dead to the law. That means that sin does not exist. If you are under the law, sin exists. That is why Paul said that he dies daily. But, I point you to 1 John 3:9. If Jesus is in you, you CANNOT SIN. It does not say, SHOULD NOT SIN. Yes, you sin, but it isn't counted against you for salvation. Romans 4-7. Grace and Law cannot co-exist. That is why Romans 6:2 states "God Forbid..."! Either you are under the Law, or Grace. Not both.

  • @chapmaned This paragraph has viewed these verses in a novel way. Makes sense. Could you please explain Rom 6:2 ("God forbid") in brief.  I really need to know. God bless.

  • @PatriciaBrigh Sorry it took me forever to get back to you. You asked to please explain Romans 6:2.The explanation is, is that the question prior to God Forbid is a rhetorical question. In order to catch that, you need to read the remaining portion of Romans Chapter 6 beyond God Forbid. You will see that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY (caps only for emphasis), that you can sin under grace (1 John 3:9 (see the word "cannot", not "should not")). It is either grace or law, not both.

  • @chapmaned I meant the paragraph that appears 7 comments below, and starts as "You cannot sin under Grace. ..."

  • @PatriciaBrigh When you read Romans, Galatians, 1 John, Hebrews, and more, you will see that you are either under grace, or law. Not both. Grace and Law cannot co-exist.

  • @PatriciaBrigh The law that Christians is under is the law of faith, and what is that? Love God, and Love people. That is what it is meant by obeying the Commandments of God, and being a doer of the law. Not the law of Moses. Love fulfills the law, and the law is not of faith, and the law is for the lawless, and most importantly, we are heirs to the promise of Abraham, who had faith, with no law. His obedience was based on faith.

  • Once saved always saved is indeed biblical. WE HAVE THE "SEAL" OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. READ the book of Ester about the Kings Seal. It cannot be broken. We are saved by grace, not by earning our way. You have no eternal security. bummer! The Apostle Paul teaches once saved always saved. WE DON'T WALK ON EGGSHELLS. You are saved by grace. BUT, you must LIVE BY FAITH. Satan rebelled against God. Satan has ALREADY BEEN JUDGED. There is so much. You are too young to know the scriptures.

  • @chapmaned so i can just do whatever i want and still go to heaven

  • @extremeeXrement1 YES...IF WHATEVER YOU WANT IS LOVE!! Love fulfills the law. The law is for the lawless. Abraham didn't have it...Abraham didn't have it...Abraham didn't have it.

  • You are correct. Once saved always saved is a lie. However, religion in general is a lie. The greatest lie in Christianity is that salvation is literal. It is MYSTICAL. There are many lies, but that is the greatest one in Christianity.

  • @Tao33316 So the religion that states that Jesus loves you and Peace on Earth, Good will to men, and Love your ENEMIES that despitefully USE YOU IS A LIE? So, what is the truth according to Tao? Life sucks, come back as a cow and try again?

  • @Enjoysfishing Thanks for your spirit of humility, it is so refreshing; however, I didn’t take your words as being impolite! Thanks for your kindheartedness! I look forward to having more exchange with you my friend!

  • @Enjoysfishing No my brother He didn't go to hell! You're a very wisdom man thanks for your insight! Peace 

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  • see you in ten years to see if you have lost your salvation! good luck pal. you will need it!

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  • Hi there... You have to renew your mind.... read and understand (Galatians 4: 21-31)

    What did Jesus die, resurrect, and ascend to heaven for...? You say that OSAS eternal security is satanic....? there are so many scriptures that prove eternal security beginning with (sadly for yours and others like yourselves sake) the Gospel itself...!! You have not even begun to understand what the free gift of salvation means...

  • You are saved the moment you confess your sins and accept Jesus in your heart. But if you live in disobedience, you dont lose your salvation, but you will suffer the consequences of disobeying God. The bible was written for the wicked and for the children of God. Dont try to confuse people. Satan loves people to doubt about their salvation.

  • I love your zeal and passion for holiness, but one danger I see in our present day 'holiness movement' is that we can confuse justification (means to salvation) w/ sanctification (the results of salvation). I'm not a Calvinist, but I believe it's not up to me to 'keep' my salvation, God is the one who preserves that in us. I do hear what you're saying about 'cheap grace' and I agree about that, but if you and I have accepted Christ, according to Ephesians 2:5, we are already seated in heaven.

  • In blasphemy I shall rise. For the delights of hell are to come. Father Satan, our almighty god. Together we are as one in darkness. To battle by the side of the devil. To hear his victorious roars across the land. To seize hordes of religious sheep. Open wide the gates to the valley of twilight. Standing above is our master. Cowering below are beaten sheep. He breeds panic throughout the masses. Now are the first days for soul eating demons. They will feast upon thy prayers.
  • When did money become the root of all evil? You mean to have eternal life is not to have eternal life? Is saved by grace through faith not in the bible any more? Must I perform works to keep myself saved? Has God lost the power to hold me in his hand? God will punish the disobedient Christian, even to the point of killing him or her and taking them home early, but give them back to the devil? Sorry, what's his is his.

  • Once you beleive Jesus paid for your sins you should not have any problem resting in it and knowing you are secure, but if you only claim he died for your sins yet you continue to try to deal with sins yourself then you have not repented of your unrighteousness and are still despising God and mocking his judgement and actually making God more anrgy by charging him with being unjust to deal with sin righteously. You are opposing the truth and trying to justify yourself by the law and not grace.

  • I think what it boils down to is apathy towards salvation, apathy towards sin, apathy towards Christ. How can an attitude like that go hand-in-hand with salvation?

  • Let’s just say you are wrights, then I guess all these great men of God are wrong; Dr. Michael Youssef, Dr. David Jeremiah, Dr. Adrian Rogers, Dr. James MacDonald, Jack Graham and Dr. Ed Young… I THINK NOT!!!

  • @pdownsr1

    That's not an argument. Besides that God doesn't say the "greats" are those who get up in front of pulpits and preach with degrees(I notice all your doctorates)---this is the WORLD's standard, pick up a Bible and see who God says are the smartest, the wisest, and the greatest of heaven.

    Psalm 119: 99 I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation. 100I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

    and Psalm 111:10

  • Story of the Christian: ok, so the man never was saved. Once you know the truth and love of God you can’t turn from it while you are saved. It would be like denying gravity, you can’t do it…Second, satan isn’t going to heaven because he has and continues to denounce God.God give us the option to follow and love or refuse him. That was a dumb question…I could continue this all day, READ YOUR BIBLE …ask for help and later fix your error!

  • @pdownsr1

    If you would like more evidence, I can show you... Go look up King Saul, chosen by God, given the Spirit of God, disobeyed--had the Spirit taken from him, he never repented and died that way by suicide.

    Go look up Judas--he was an apostle for 3 years before his betrayal. Peter also fell away, actually ALL the apostles fell away at his arrest as prophesied--but 11 returned. Look up Simon the magician--believed, saved, baptized--then got told he would perish if he didn't repent.

  • LOL, you have been fooled by manly words; you need to read the word of God and make an apology to God and all your viewers. You of little faith, is anything impossible, is anything too great or too small for God. No. I think not...

  • Yea, your wrong,,, i guess that person you speek of was'nt saved after all....

  • Oh yeah and this... watch?v=jw7bG0FgD6U&feature=wa­tch_response

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  • ... it is not our sins that causes us to go to hell, it is only one sin that causes us to go the hell. And that is the sin of not believing on the only Son of God, Jesus Christ, (John.3:) " ... he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" This is the only sin that will cause a person to go to hell. Young Sir i counsel U to repent of your reckless thoughtlessness of the Bible and believe on Jesus alone for salvation.

  • @br,you have lied twice in your defense of the heresy of Calvinism.First,those who have blasphemed the Spirit of Elohim will NEVER be forgiven,not even in the age to come.Secondly,it is BECAUSE we have SINNED and fall short of erasing our sins that people are already condemnedBEFOREthey die,but ONLY IF they don't eventually receive baptism and become born again of the Spirit of Yahusha to endure TO THE END.Those who continue to merely "revere" YHWH will soon know how to fear YHWH.Thanks,777denny

  • ... God then told Moses that due to his unbelief he would not enter the Promised Land, that God would only allow him to look into it. So God took Moses to the top of Mt. Pisgah for a look into Canaan, and Moses died shortly thereafter. Are we to conclude that the great man of God Moses went to hell because of his lack of faith? God forbid! And keep in mind, the Bible says,"for whatsoever is not of faith is sin" (Romans 14:23) ...

  • ... and concerning the sins that will get you into hell as U put it. Young Sir the is clear, yes you can die because of your sins, Nevertheless, that doesn't mean a person goes to hell. According the Bible Moses became guilty of the sin of unbelief and for that he was not allowed to enter the promise land, now are we to say that Moses went to hell? He was not only cut off access to the promise land but he died in the wildness just all the rest of them that believed not (Numbers.20:7) ...

  • ... and regarding the man whom you say that killed himself, you say he is in hell, but you have no Bible verses to prove such people go to hell. You employ your own logic and reasoning for your conclusions and not the Bible. As for Satan, there is no redemptive plain foe his salvation revealed in the Bible, therefore it was a straw-man's argument. An argument made out of complete foolishness and thoughtlessness apart from Scripture, that's a straw-man's argument! ...

  • First of all young Sir, the Bible doesn't say that ( 'MONEY IS THE ROOT TO ALL EVIL!). It says that (THAT THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT TO ALL EVIL)-> 1 Timothy 6:10, Please quote it right or just hush! Now if you misquoted this verse, NEED I SAY MORE! Now regarding once saved always saved, it is a revelation of Scripture and Scripture came by the Spirit of God, thus be careful not to blaspheme the Spirit by associating what He has given us with a doctrine of the Devil ...

  • Im not sure faith and belief are the same thing... Satan doesn't have faith in Jesus, he believes that Jesus exists and is the son of God.

  • Satan is a fallen angel.Is there a redeemer for fallen angels?

  • If we can lose salvation, we would have lost it a long time ago. If we can't do anything to earn Heaven, then we can't do anything to lose it. Nothing can separate you from the love of Christ.......not even sin. Our Heavenly father is different than our human father.........God said it already....he will NEVER forsake or leave us. If salvation can be lost, then no one can be saved.

  • Lot was called righteous--hmmm. It wasn't his righteousness that saved Lot. It was Christ's. If you think you have lost your salvation it is because you are trusting in YOUR OWN righteousness. Romans 10:1-4 plainly teaches why people are not saved. "Going about to establish THEIR OWN righteousness." You need His righteousness! You cannot lose HIS righteousness.

  • Hey Bam,Go to bible college will you.Are you saying Jesus did not pay the sin debt in full?

  • We we read ROMANS as it is meant, we will read Chapter 7 first and then Chapter 6. We see Paul is say he WAS or used the word WERE meaning PAST. Jesus taught from the Scrolls and what He herd from His Father. There was no New Testament and those Letters wasn't put together for around 200 years AD. So I will Believe the Whole Picture of God and His never changing Son seen both in the OT and the Gospels of MATTHEWS, MARK and JOHN. Remember LUKE was not a Disciple when Jesus walked this earth,

  • Good job young brother. God Bless, you. oldgrapeape//Jimmie

  • Once Saved Always saved is the Devil's Ace in the Hole sending MOST Sinning Christians to Hell. Jesus said :FEW there would be that find it." People MUST stop reading only Scriptures which appear showing they are going to Heaven, and start looking at the Whole Picture of God and His NEVER CHANGING Son, and see those Scriptures which tell what will keep you out of Heaven. Jesus does not always take our Prayers to His Father JOHN 16:26, read the Letters to the 7-Churches and see where you stand.

  • @oldgrapeape

    "If WE say we have not sinned we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us" (1John 1:8)

    All christians sin--even You! This is ridiculous, to attempt to undo scriptures that show the security of the saved then turn around searching out scriptures that seemingly contradict those truths. God's 'never changing' Son is NEVER CHANGING. He is not in the business of repenting after saving his people BY HIS GRACE then turning around and condemn them by their works.

  • Circumcision. Do you not know the Bible at all except to preach salvation by works? What does Circumcision represent?

    STUDY to show thyself . . .

  • Once saved always saved is a meaningless cliche if the person was never saved in the first place. You can't lose something you never had.

  • Just because you've accepted Jesus doesn't mean you need not

    follow His commands or Obey Him any longer ? You Only believe Him but

    you didn't make Him the LORD of your Life..

    Well, Demons believed on Him also! Grace is no licence to SIN!

    "What shall we say then? Shall we continue to Sin that Grace may abound?

    Certainly Not ! How shall we who DIED to Sin live any longer in it?

    (Romans 6:1-2). Repent now if you're Living in sin..

  • @Bamboorules. You are from the pits of hell!!!!!!! Satan is not behind this ... Jesus is!!!!!! John 11:26. SHALL NEVER DIE! You are blind! Thy faith hath saved thee! Luke 7:50. You are a child of Satan! John 6:37-40. Jesus didn't die for SATAN ... moron! John 3:16 says the world. That means people only! You are a babbling liar working for the devil!

  • Satan believes more than you all do... "I Like that one". For real. I love your heart but I pray for your wisdom and understanding.

  • LOL satan is a fallen angel.He has NO FAITH in Jesus.Theres NO savior for ANGELS!

  • Your idea of salvation, from what you have posted, is, Salvation = Your "faith" in Jesus. That's the lie! Your "faith" cannot save you from an ant lion. Faith is just the ''means" of obtaining salvation. "Faith" doesn't save anyone! It is a "person" that saves, Jesus Christ. Either you believe that "his work" (not, "your faith") on the cross saves you or you don't. It's not "rocket science". Either choose "your faith" or His "faithfulness"; trust "in Him" or trust in "your ability" to believe.

  • @JONAH222NCSGAZ Refute this if you can?Matt15:28,,,Luke17:5-6,Is it here we are talking of Jesus faith or OUR FAITH?Romans1:17 Who are the JUST?Rom3:22-31,Rom5:1-2,Justi­fied by Faith,Whose Faith?MY Faith.Looks like YOUR IDEA of salvation is a lie.My BIBLE SAYS if I have Faith in Christ Jesus I AM SAVED!

  • Once saved always saved is true. Salvation is by grace. People do not lose their salvation, they were never saved in the first place.

  • there is no way we can live a sinfull life after we get saved. not even you the only person who lived a sinfull life was Jesus and yes Jesus does hate sin but we can not live a sinfull life there is just no way. sin is every where you go on tv on the streets all the people around you. Jesus knows that we can not live a sinfull life so what you are saying makes no sence at all about once saved all ways saved because there no way we can not sin sin is every where.

  • I like your video. But fallen angels are unable to repent. Their destiny was sealed the moment they were cast out of heaven. The Bible says hell was made for the devil and his angels, not for us though many will go there. Also, satan and his angels have no faith. They were in heaven at one time and saw the glory of God with their own eyes. Someone who sees needs no faith, unlike us. We are made lower than the angels. Alrite, im done babbling. God Bless.

  • Brother, It is your idea of salvation that is straight out of the pit of hell. All God planned to save was already predestined to salvation. If someone believed that they were saved than commit a grievous sin, it does not mean that person will lose his salvation, it means that person was never saved to begin with. You need to remember that we are save by grace and not of our own works. In God's eyes, all sin is worthyof death from the smallest to the biggest. (part 1)

  • So if we follow your teaching than after we are saved than we can be humanly perfect and live a sinless life. So what would be the perpose of praying? Did King David lose his salvation after he commited adultery? How about commiting murder to hide his adultery? Show me a true believer who never sins and I will show you a liar.

  • Concerning this: You cannot lose something that wasn't yours in the first place. Even our faith was a gift and it had nothing to do with anything you did or any works. (Eph 2:8-9)

    Also, if you can lose your salvation it implies you DID something to lose it. How is that possible? You didn't do anything to earn it, how can you do anything to lose it. The bible is clear that we are all sinners that have fallen short of this gift and that it is by God's grace that we are saved.

  • First i want to correct your error concerning the love of money. The bible does not say that money is evil but that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

    also you said "Is satan going to heaven?...He probably has more faith in Jesus than you guys do" Satan doesnt have faith IN Jesus, he has faith OF Jesus-meaning he has faith that Jesus exists but has not put his faith IN Jesus as the Son of God who died to remiss sins. hence preventing his salvation

  • YES YES!! Amen, good video brother. Amen, I'll prayy for you

  • God does not forgive fallen angels.

  • Is the "once saved always saved" doctrine of "eternal security" Biblical? See WHAT LAW WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS? in my wezand2 Profile description.

  • And as there are so many who believe they are saved, but are not (Matt 25:41), it is more appropriate to ask whether our name is in the Lambs Book of Life. But we are not generally supposed to know this, as we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2:12), meaning its not a one-off event. But, even if our name is in the Lambs Book of Life, Rev 3:5 shows it can still be blotted out.

  • OSAS is truly a master-stroke of the devil. A despicably brilliant idea to cause multitudes to believe they are saved when they are not.

  • i was Believing in the Once Saved Always Saved Lie for Almost a year. The early church fathers never believe in Either saved Always saved eleven o'clock. Was Eternal Security if true, the early church fathers did a miserable job to preserve it.

  • @stu5070 From my experience, "Quick Prayerism", where people try to get others to just say a prayer to go to heaven, is what causes people to believe they are saved when they are not. It is dangerous b/c people will think back and say to themselves, "I'm saved b/c I said this prayer." When God truly saves a person, he becomes a "new creature. Old things are passed away, all things are become new. (2 Cor.5:17).

  • The bible teaches Once saved KEPT saved. 1 Pet 1:3-5

    You CANNOT lose your salvation.

  • Read Matthew 7:22-23 Who were them people that lost their salvation? And think to yourself why? Remember I am only talking abut willfull sins. Hebrews 10:26. Also read 1 John 3:9 Keep in mind NO ONE is perfect. No even me. Its only by Jesus. So no man should boast. I love you. Jesus Bless you!

  • @bamboorules 1 peter 1:5 reads who are kept by the power of god through faith for salvation ready to revealed in the last time, lets study that k? Key word being FAITH, u cannot lose your salvation if u have faith, but what if u loose faith, - was judas saved?

  • @bamboorules MAtthew 7is people that were never saved-- what did they build on I am not saved I need good works is to take away from what Christ Did on the cross-- John 10:29

  • @bamboorules What does "I NEVER knew you" mean to you. Does never mean he knew you for a while, and then he ceased to know you. Or does it mean that there was no point in time when he knew you(were saved). Eternal Security is true. You deine Jesus with your self-righesnouess.

  • @Christfollower29

    Look up the parable of the 10 virgins, Jesus says to 5 believers(who had lights lit, just like the other 5 who didn't run out of oil)---He said "I don't know you."

    Self-righteousness is actually calling yourself righteous while living in sin(or making up a false standard and living by it), this is not possible in conditional security---for we're commanded to obey Him, there is no license for immorality as Jude describes, only in YOUR false doctrine is that possible.

  • @droptozro I really don't care to debate you, but I never said there is a license for immorality at all.

    1. Do you trust in the Jesus for you salvation, or did you earn your salvation?

    2. How did you become justified, by your works or Christ work on the cross? A. And can you loose your justification, and how do you keep it.

    Salvation is of the Father, not of man.

    So if salvation's of him, HE justifies and glorifies, he gives light to the world.

    THEN HOW CAN WE FALL OUT??????????

  • @Christfollower29

    1) Christ is our salvation, you cannot earn it--this is a ridiculous straw-man people attempt to use---Ephesians is clear all are saved by grace through faith, James shows clearly that true faith will show works--if it's a dead faith, it will not save you.

    2) Somewhat answered above--we're "kept" by God through our faith--which can be lost by abandoning the faith, denying Christ, or sin(which leads to death)--all these are warnings to Christians all throughout Scripture.

  • @Christfollower29

    Here's a metaphor I often use---if I built you a house, then said it was yours on the condition you cleaned it twice a week---or I would take it back, would you be earning the house? If I turn this into God, designing, planning, and giving salvation by obedience through faith---it becomes a priceless gift, I cannot earn it--but I can surely abandon it if I don't abide in Him, continue in sin, or obey Him. He is the author of salvation to those who OBEY. (Heb 5:9)

  • @droptozro Here's the difference between me and you. We both are Christians and have faith in Christ.

    Me and the other Eternal Security believers obey and follow God because we love him and want to share in fellow ship with him.

    You on the other hand obey and follow God because your afraid of hell and afraid of Gods Justice.

    Obedience is a fruit of salvation not a requirement.

    The gospel is in no way a call to obedience and call to fellowship, obedience comes from his work.

  • @Christfollower29 *It is a call to fellowship

  • @Christfollower29

    You're partially correct, but again--you're debating unscripturally--you need to be grounded there, not in unbiblical assertions.

    I obey God out of both reasons(love/fear), but definitely not for fear of hell--that's worldly repentance. And this is what's in the Bible--do you? See Rom 11:22, Phil 2:12, Matt 10:28, Psalm 111:10 ...and I can go on and on.

    If you don't have the fear of God, you don't have wisdom--that's what the Scriptures say clear as day.

  • @Christfollower29

    Actually obedience is a fruit/requirement... but it stems out of love. "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" John 14:15 and much of 1 John spells out this same ideal. If you don't love Jesus, then you're constantly breaking the greatest commandment(or other commandments of Christ)--and because God IS just and faithful, you WILL die--which is exactly what God is faithful to do(Jas 1:15, Gal 6:7-10)--even if you profess Him. Read Ezek 18 also, God's justice.

  • @bamboorules doing good and being good will not get you into heaven being saved and reborn again and believeing and having faith gets you into heaven. Because if it was true that being good and doing good things gets you into heaven then why did Jesus die on the cross. Jesus is the only one that lived a sinfull life none of us or even you could live a sinfull life there just no way that we can turn from are sins. And Jesus knows that we can not life a sinfull life

  • @October31st1517 - so was judas saved?

  • @6996109 No. There is NO evidence that Judas was saved. In fact we have evidence that he stole from the Lord.

  • @October31st1517 You are correct,John 6:70,(Jesus talking) Did I NOT CHOOSE you 12,and ONE OF YOU IS A DEVIL. This is a damning statement by Christ.About Judas.Look at John 17:12,Read the last part of the verse.BUT,SEE THE BUT ?BUT the son of PERDITION that the scripture might be fulfilled.No where in scripture do you see Judas EVER give Jesus respect.Like calling him Rabbi,Master,Savior?Judas was a type of demon.Cont.

  • @6996109 Judas was never saved,Look at Peter at Pentecost,Judas Iscariot Notice hes called by Christ as the Son of Perdition ,Here at Pentecost Peter through the Holy Spirit says Judas went to HIS OWN PLACE.Which makes him a demon.His own place=Tartarus. or Hell.Acts1:25.

  • @October31st1517 "Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good. (1 Peter 2:1-3)

    Now that you're saved by faith you need to obey God's Word(works) "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" (James 2:26)

  • @October31st1517 Satan also believes. Then he must be saved right; right October31st517?

    Accroding to, James 2:18,19 "But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder."

    So, you still believe that your salvation is secured?

  • @October31st1517 When you see a verse, you need to read the WHOLE chapter to find out what it means. Don't just take one verse and because it goes with what you would like to happen, to leave the rest.

    John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep my commandments." Only those who love God will be saved.

    So, if salvation is secure, then what's the point of following God's commandments?

  • @October31st1517 Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." If salvation is secured, then Jesus is a liar.

    Well, He is NOT. You were taught a lie that could bring you to eternal death.

    Jesus came to bring us a spiritual sword with which we would fight satan and his plans of causing us to go to hell.

    If you believe this false doctrine, you will wish you were never born because hell ain't a child game.

  • @October31st1517 And by the way, if satan knew that salvation is secured, he wouldn't waste his time trying to get Jesus followers to fall in his tricks.

    Satan is not more intelligent nor more powerful than God, but he is NOT stupid. When he was cast out of heaven, his powers stayed with him.

    SO, if you don't have God onyour side, then you are weaker than him.

    Satan hates us so much that he would go as far as using the Bible through others to teach false doctrines.

    OPEN your heart to TRUTH!

  • @MzPapi4Ever So the scripture I qouted in 1 Pet 1:3-5 doesn't teach that salvation is "Uncoruptible, undifiled and that it does not fade away?" are you really saying that salvation is not "Reserved in heaven for yuo?" Please explain how I am misunderstanding this scripture.

  • @October31st1517 The problem with you is that you take the part that you like and leave the rest, like many others do.

    Salvation is reserved to those who 1)have accepted Jesus Christ. 2)those who have been following the Word of God. To follow the Word of God means staying away from sin. If you do fall, then you ask for forgiveness and repent.

    If you've accepted Jesus Christ and are still living in sin, then you are NOT saved.

    So the "Once Saved, Always Saved" doctrine is misinterpreted.

  • @October31st1517 Let me post it for you:

    1 Peter 1:3-5 "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. "

  • @October31st1517 It can never fade away for those with faith AND work for God.

    1 Peter 1:13 "Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming. 14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. 15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; 16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”

  • @October31st1517 So now, if you want to live by the "Once Saved, Always Saved" doctrine, then I feel sorry for you.

    Instead of letting God show you truth of his Word, you choose to ignore it. Either way, Judgment Day is coming. Blessed those who obeyed the Word of God. Those who chose not listen will also have a place and it's called hell.

    READ the Bible and let God open your heart and eyes to his Word's truth.

  • @MzPapi4Ever I live by once saved KEPT saved. The reason you believe you can lose your salvation is because your salvation is entirely dependent on what YOU DO!. Not with what Christ ALONE has done. I use to hold to your position but God opened my eyes to the truth.

  • @October31st1517 I did NOT say that!

    You are so blinded by this doctrine that you don't want to open your eyes to the truth. Instead of reading my comments, which I provided with PROOF from the Bible, you keep implying things I did not say.

    NO, salvation does not depend on works. That's why even people who do good without believing won't get to Heaven.

    However faith without works is nothing. Believing in Jesus without obeying Him won't get you to Heaven either.

    Read James 2. I'm done arguing.

  • @October31st1517 Are you sure??? I thought yo could lose it somehow. Read Mathew 7 22-23 who were these people???

  • @October31st1517

    You're reading into Scripture, 1 Peter 1:3-5 says you're Kept saved "through faith"---if you don't have faith, then you're no longer being kept. See the clear conditions. Also be sure you understand the inheritance is being defined as incorruptible, you have no yet attained it until the end of your faith(should you keep it to the end and endure)--- 1 Peter 1:9

  • yes my brother, we got to hate sins and depart from them and keep our eyes on Jesus and pray daily that He gives us strenth to walk in holiness and abides in us and that we do His will all the time. Those who endure in that walk till the end will be saved in that final "saved" sense. Jesus bless you, bro!

  • I'm an Atheist, so you know, but I point out these scriptures in support of "always saved".

    (a) Romans 8:30 declares, "And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified." This verse tells us that from the moment God chooses us, it is as if we are glorified in His presence in heaven.

    But.. what happens if someone who was formerly a christian, commits the unforgivable sin? I dunno'.

  • Thank you for sharing. This is the kind of message people need to hear. When I was 16 I was questioning whether I was Christian as my family was forcing me to be baptized. My mother told me that if I asked Jesus in my heart I was a Christian. This misguided lie caused great stumbling for me. It is only now that I'm 24 that the Lord has truly opened my eyes. If 16 year old me was around, I'd tell her to watch this video.

  • Amen, brother!

    There is actually a scripture that proves what you said about the sins that send you to ell are not those you just run into:

    1 John 5:16

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  • It got you away from Jesus? well me too because sin separate us from God. Jesus Bless you!!

  • I lost faith that the Jesus I knew was real, because there was so much sin in this world and everyone I knew accepted it. Nobody I knew had there eyes on Jesus.And because I couldn't accept the fact that Jesus would tolerate sin, I tried to forget about him. It nearly destroyed me living without him. I have repented so much and am still going until I hear his voice and he calls me his son. And even then I will keep going and try to stay close to him.

  • @jignc1984

    blame the false apostle Paul, not Jesus, he is the one who contradicts Christ. Go by what Christ said only! Blessings!

  • Very good message. Good job!

    God bless.

    Love, Sonja

  • amen brother good message.

    jesus bless you.

  • People who belive that point to various Bible verses that suggest that salvation if forever and is totally based on God's grace alone.

    Personally, I believe that salvation is a process of becoming whole that takes your whole life and has more to do with being able to live this life better than to get us to some better place after this life is over.

    "You must choose, for you cannot follow all of me. Where you decide fates how you live and how you die."

  • Amen brother. People who quote scripture to "prove" they are saved, have never met Jesus.

    Knowing Jesus and obeying Him leads us to salvation. Only those who endure to the end will will saved.

    Jesus bless you.

  • @finalcall07 FALSE TEACHER. Stop teaching falsely you reject me from your channel but I will not stop. You are a work men of satan and you hold no truth.

    STUDY YOUR BIBLE

  • Words like "forever," "everlasting," and "eternal" are the reasons I think that a person who is born again can never be "un" born again. Can God lie? The bible says no. Heb 5:9 Joh 3:16 1Jo 2:17 Isa 45:17 How exactly does something that is eternal and everlasting have an end or go away?

    You should use scripture to "prove" that we can loose our salvation, and not just give an asumption that since satan believes in Jesus we can loose our salvation (james2v19). Study to show yourself approved!

  • Amen little Bro, Jesus didn't come to make us feel better, He came save us from our sins. He came so that the dead should have life.

  • Thanks!! Jesus Bless you too!!

  • If we live after the Flesh, we shall dye; but if we through the Spirit do mortifie the Deeds of the Body, we shall live [Rom. 8:13] For they which believe in God, must be careful to maintain good Works [Tit. 3:8] For such are counted worthy of the Kingdom of God [2 Thess. 1:5] .

    Well said Brother!

    In Him,

    Themis

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