@RyNDonLE I think the only source that is telling December 2012 is Metal Storm and I usually find the reference reliable when I can find the Devin comments that confirms it as true. This time, Devin never mentionned any due date, so it could be December 2011 as well as may 2012 or December 2012...
@davidCcode They just announced a Devin Townsend Project box set that will have all 4 of the DTP albums with 4 unreleased disk included, I think this is probably one of the unreleased disk.
@alvespinoza1529 Of course it does! Devin's songs are all related to each other in some kind of an autobiographical way.. Bad Devil and Radial Highway is one of these connections..
@lasoogneypubes There is a chart that shows all the connections between devin's songs (doesn't mention how they are connected, just shows which ones are related to each other) but I've lost the link. Heaven send, stand and watch you are also connected. If you've listened to them you'll see what I mean. (Both lyrics and music are related in all of these cases)
@billy1966peace Oh. Yeah I know what you mean. Either they use lyrics from past songs or a variation of a riff from a past song. He did that with a song from Ziltoid and a song from Ocean Machine. I'm not that into it. I think it's fine when he does it with lyrics but I hate when musicians re-use their old riffs.
@lasoogneypubes He re-uses older riffs when he wants to emotionally connect songs . lyrics are just the description of events while melodies transfer the emotions related to the events. In order to transfer the same feeling from bad devil and radial highway for example, he has to use similar melodies. I think what devin does is very smart and it just proves that he's a crazy genius! He doesn't do it beacuse he can't come up with any different riffs! He's too good to do that!
@billy1966peace I don't know. Even if that is true I've really never felt any sort of 'connection'. Just more like, "Oh hey, he used that in such and such song" and that's about it. I don't know why he does it. I like it when he does it with lyrics but not really with riffs. Why play a riff you already did before? Don't bother trying to explain the philosophy behind it because I will not be convinced. Lol not to be a dick or anything just sayin' don't waste your time.
@lasoogneypubes & @billy1966peace ....I don't know why he does it and dont care, lyrics, licks whatever.. It always makes me smile when I hear it because its so familiar but still sounds like it was always meant to be there..I don't think there has to be a philosophy behind it...I guess he just liked that riff or those lyrics....
@Misostrate i don't think hes recycling. hes purposely reusing material to increase the want to listen to the other albums and songs hes referencing. and it works. incredibly works well. its a mind game i believe because he makes it completely obvious when he does it to the people who have already listened to his previous albums.
@Misostrate Finding new ways of using an idea is just as interesting as coming up with a new one - sometimes more so. Using riffs in different contexts like this could be compared to thematic development.
@lasoogneypubes I don't, creating motifs like that makes music exciting for me. Besides, it's not like he's reusing a phrase explicitly, it's usually dressed up in a different flavour of Devin. I actually prefer when bands are open to this as opposed to making a rule to never doing it. As a songwriter, I find that the phrases I write can be applied to many different aspects to a song. I guess people have their preferences but my preference is a composer who knows how to write well.
@johnpetrucci87 Well it's all opinion anyway, but mine is that YES you can definitely use a riff in other songs and find that that riff works in a lot of places.. but to me if I've heard it before in another song it's just getting in the way of a good riff that could be in its place. Also it feels like really lazy songwriting to me. Opeth has done this with the songs Blackwater Park, The Grand Conjuration and Porcelain Heart. I hate it >:( but I respect your opinion.
His new project Casualties of Cool will probably sound like this.
psyoptica 4 days ago
You guys know that the reverb on this one was actually recorded in a REAL tunnel right..? Devin is just brilliant
BrandenburgStudios 3 weeks ago
Contain Us is the greatest thing thats ever happened to me.
haX0r3 1 month ago
im fucking buying this album
comptondriver 1 month ago
I love this track...ever since I seen the acoustic live video of him playing it...I knew this would be one of my fav tracks from the DTP albums...
NiteKrawler33 2 months ago
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Juvahansen1 2 months ago
This fuckin' groooooves :)
someguy827 2 months ago
Is this the part they recorded in that tunnel I saw in that one clip on poopynugeteer channel?
Misostrate 2 months ago
@Misostrate Yup. I like how he could do something like that for a little detail :) That's why Devin is the greatest
onniex 2 months ago
Dat radar love
krisdaschwab912 3 months ago
@3.15 . . nice vampira self reference.. trademark dev :)
jamesblackpresents 3 months ago
@jamesblackpresents Holy crap, I never noticed that.
Seligsuper 3 months ago
@jamesblackpresents Sounds like Bad Devil to me, maybe you got those 2 confused? or i'm just not hearing Vampira :')
PeppersGhost08 5 days ago
i wanna give my thumphs up to everybody... what a great musician :) devin townsend...
Pequenno54 3 months ago
When is this album coming out?
RyNDonLE 5 months ago
@RyNDonLE December 2012
gueug95 4 months ago
@gueug95 They already have half the songs on youtube and it's not coming out for over a year? dafuk.
RyNDonLE 4 months ago
@RyNDonLE I think the only source that is telling December 2012 is Metal Storm and I usually find the reference reliable when I can find the Devin comments that confirms it as true. This time, Devin never mentionned any due date, so it could be December 2011 as well as may 2012 or December 2012...
Nothing is sure until Devin is sure.
davidCcode 4 months ago
@davidCcode Metal Storm also said that it would be released on September 2011. Not a reliable source at all.
Itzael996 4 months ago
@davidCcode They just announced a Devin Townsend Project box set that will have all 4 of the DTP albums with 4 unreleased disk included, I think this is probably one of the unreleased disk.
RyNDonLE 4 months ago
@RyNDonLE I do agree as the the album is unreleased, but then again something Devin did say was that there will be Ghost 2 coming as a normal album.
Might as well be both: Unreleased until the box set but then also released as a usual album on the same date (just like Decon-ghost set)
davidCcode 4 months ago
@RyNDonLE Ah lols, I meant to say 2011 :3
gueug95 4 months ago
I actually prefer in In jam studio version of this song
DamnEdge 5 months ago 2
Kyle Monroe is mad
inxyTrolls 6 months ago
@inxyTrolls Am not.
UFT90 5 months ago
Holy shit. it's Radar Love meets Trainfire
TarbyRocks 6 months ago
If anyone knows the release date of this album, please let me know.
Djang0ilBastardo 6 months ago 3
@Djang0ilBastardo According to wikipedia, it should be released this year, but an actual date is not there...
TheRealJES 4 months ago
sounds dark, almost nasty...i like it :)
sentient07 7 months ago
Radar Love!
blsnewreligion 7 months ago
This sounds like "Trainfire" and "Bad Devil" combined.
So, "Trainfire" + "Bad Devil" = EPIC!
ChrisXDumbass 7 months ago
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ChrisXDumbass 7 months ago
any news on when ghost 2 is released
sylunatic 7 months ago
@sylunatic September apparently.
skorli 7 months ago
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alvespinoza1529 7 months ago
Sounds like "Bad Devil"... anyway, sounds good
alvespinoza1529 7 months ago
@alvespinoza1529 Of course it does! Devin's songs are all related to each other in some kind of an autobiographical way.. Bad Devil and Radial Highway is one of these connections..
billy1966peace 7 months ago
@billy1966peace How do you know this??
lasoogneypubes 6 months ago
@lasoogneypubes There is a chart that shows all the connections between devin's songs (doesn't mention how they are connected, just shows which ones are related to each other) but I've lost the link. Heaven send, stand and watch you are also connected. If you've listened to them you'll see what I mean. (Both lyrics and music are related in all of these cases)
billy1966peace 6 months ago
@billy1966peace Oh. Yeah I know what you mean. Either they use lyrics from past songs or a variation of a riff from a past song. He did that with a song from Ziltoid and a song from Ocean Machine. I'm not that into it. I think it's fine when he does it with lyrics but I hate when musicians re-use their old riffs.
lasoogneypubes 6 months ago
@lasoogneypubes He re-uses older riffs when he wants to emotionally connect songs . lyrics are just the description of events while melodies transfer the emotions related to the events. In order to transfer the same feeling from bad devil and radial highway for example, he has to use similar melodies. I think what devin does is very smart and it just proves that he's a crazy genius! He doesn't do it beacuse he can't come up with any different riffs! He's too good to do that!
billy1966peace 6 months ago
@billy1966peace I don't know. Even if that is true I've really never felt any sort of 'connection'. Just more like, "Oh hey, he used that in such and such song" and that's about it. I don't know why he does it. I like it when he does it with lyrics but not really with riffs. Why play a riff you already did before? Don't bother trying to explain the philosophy behind it because I will not be convinced. Lol not to be a dick or anything just sayin' don't waste your time.
lasoogneypubes 6 months ago
@lasoogneypubes & @billy1966peace ....I don't know why he does it and dont care, lyrics, licks whatever.. It always makes me smile when I hear it because its so familiar but still sounds like it was always meant to be there..I don't think there has to be a philosophy behind it...I guess he just liked that riff or those lyrics....
sammmm87 6 months ago
@lasoogneypubes atleast he is reusing his own material, unlike some other "musicians".
Misostrate 2 months ago
@Misostrate i don't think hes recycling. hes purposely reusing material to increase the want to listen to the other albums and songs hes referencing. and it works. incredibly works well. its a mind game i believe because he makes it completely obvious when he does it to the people who have already listened to his previous albums.
JordanECMusic 1 month ago
@Misostrate Finding new ways of using an idea is just as interesting as coming up with a new one - sometimes more so. Using riffs in different contexts like this could be compared to thematic development.
Sodhats 1 month ago
@lasoogneypubes I don't, creating motifs like that makes music exciting for me. Besides, it's not like he's reusing a phrase explicitly, it's usually dressed up in a different flavour of Devin. I actually prefer when bands are open to this as opposed to making a rule to never doing it. As a songwriter, I find that the phrases I write can be applied to many different aspects to a song. I guess people have their preferences but my preference is a composer who knows how to write well.
johnpetrucci87 6 months ago
@johnpetrucci87 Well it's all opinion anyway, but mine is that YES you can definitely use a riff in other songs and find that that riff works in a lot of places.. but to me if I've heard it before in another song it's just getting in the way of a good riff that could be in its place. Also it feels like really lazy songwriting to me. Opeth has done this with the songs Blackwater Park, The Grand Conjuration and Porcelain Heart. I hate it >:( but I respect your opinion.
lasoogneypubes 6 months ago
That cover is such a trip, fantastic song!
Mrduderpants 8 months ago
Eric Sardinas?! XD
<3
bacampeglu 8 months ago
very good song by devin as usual.
1truegod777 8 months ago
Train won't stop! Never gonna stop! Trainfire up and down the line!!!
SouthWindStablesOhio 8 months ago 39
I had this exact conversation with someone else, saying this song was like Trainfire meets Bad Devil
DamnEdge 5 months ago
:34 Yehhhhhaaaaaaaayeehhhh
ManChiggerDude 8 months ago
Hahahaha Golden Earring - Radar Love lyrics! Very nice!
Tooltje 8 months ago
1.49 sounds like The Simpsons intro :p
OC616 8 months ago
where did u find this?
bugasmike 8 months ago 5
@bugasmike It's a bonus track when you buy the album on iTunes.
xxxserialxxx 8 months ago
It is even better than I expected.
LicoriceLain 8 months ago 21
@LicoriceLain of course, its Devy
cuDDLeSH1t 6 months ago
beautiful!
Guuff 8 months ago