Wont the extra coal we burn at the power plant in order to charge our electric vehicles offset the reduction in tailpipe emissions anyway? Seems like still, even now, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
@stratocast04 To state the obvious, not all electricity is generated with coal! In fact...in the US less than 50% is coal sourced and reducing each year. Secondly, moving to EVs is like swapping incandescent lamps for LEDs, they do the same work but on 1/10th the energy.
Those are not very good representatives of Porsche or Ferrari, in fact those are some of their worst cars. Buy a golf diesle now or a Fiat 500, they're cleaner than the Prius anyway. Also buy a real Atom, it will destroy your face.
Ok people need to chill and get their facts straight. There is no reason that the EV atom shouldn't beat the gas cars in an 1/4 mile, because, unless it is different from conventional electric motors, the EV atom has the ability to go from 0% performance to 100% performance in an instant. Its just the way electric motors work. You also may notice that the Ariel weighs FREAKING NOTHING! Is it gimmick-y going from a rolling start and only doing a 1/4 mile, perhaps. But the EV Atom is quicker.
Question: Why is this an 1/8th mile "track"? Wouldn't a 1/4 mile or better yet, a full mile be a better test? These super cars are after all, designed for ultra high speeds. Is it because this faux-atom would get totally destroyed? Probably so. Also, why are the two supercars granny shifting? And what's up with the roll start with the carerra? That seems like trickery. You can spend 7k bucks on a POS Honda CRX and make it faster in an 1/8th than those two super cars. This all seems fake.
electric motors are just plain better than gas in every way! imagine if the electric car motor had 10% ( or less) the research funding gasoline motors have per year . holy fuck tard watch out!
@tool5150 tru, not yet in all circumstances maybe. electric infrastucture but stil. Not only better more efficient greener on paper, thats already proven. Now, if we get the electricity production green (0 emission) we are there!
@hsew Gonna have to call you on that one! There are plenty of Hybrid and EV taxi in Japan and China that have passed 100,000 miles without any battery degradation... That's equal to 10 years for the average motorist!
Im all for electric cars but what would happen if this car catches fire vs a standard petrol car?
I've seen some devastating effects of lithium fires, fuel too but compared with each other what would be worst?
How long do the take to fully fuel Vs a petrol car.
For your information on a 2010 Porsche 911 turbo engine you get 16-mpg in the city and 24-mpg on the highway, so your comparison / estimate is a little off. Plus you've not applied the actual cost of charging to your running cost.
No disrepect intended. It is an awesome machine for man to behold. Thank u for the correction. I only kno the aireal atom is gas powered. Hats off 2 u for the vid and hats off foe those who created such powerful machines for man to "attempt" to control
great concept and awesome performance, but will need alot of revision to get it to a stage where more people will want to use it everyday. as it is, it's a great weekend trashabout. the problem is with batteries and charging time. sure you could swap them out but who wants to muck about with that. 3mins refueling with petrol and you're back up and running at full steam.
@3089280288 Good question. The AC Induction motor in the EV has traction control by default.
An AC motor generates torque in response to load, so if the traction is limited, the load will be minimal and so the AC motor will generate minimum torque.
Also If the tires do break traction and spin the AC motor automatically "regen" brakes and slow down again.
Note at the end of the video how hard it is to get the EV to wheel spin.
@tsport100 Yeah, AND you can get whatever torque you want, at any speed (no gears), so it would be more controllable even without T/C. This is also why they run the 1/4 faster and quicker with the same power & weight.. No shifting.
@tsport100 UMM, 2cents per mile? No way can it be close to that. That's like a bicycle's cost. Seriously, did you mean to say 20cents, which is still quite good.
@sterlingab The cost of electricity in the US averages $0.10 per kWh, that's 1000 watt hours. Most EVs use approx 200 watt hours per mile. So 1 kWh, or $0.10 worth of electricity will give an EV 5 miles worth of range, that's $0.02 per mile. Look it up on the Tesla Motors web site if you want to confirm it.
You'll reduce your fuel bill by 90%+ with a plug-in EV over a ICE car. Now you get some idea why every auto maker on the planet are developing EVs.
@tsport100 LOL..."get some idea why every auto maker...". YOU need to get the idea, slick. The ONLY reason EVs are being made by major manufacturers is govt pressure. there is practically NO consumer demand. That's what "freedom" looks like nowadays.
@kenfo0 "NO consumer demand" ? LOL That's why the gen 3 Toyota Prius has been the #1 selling vehicle in Japan for 15 months straight since the day it was launched and the Nissan Leaf pre-sold 20,000 cars in the first 35 days without so much as a test drive, yep... zero demand!! LOL
@abe13maz Going at full throttle, you'd be amazed at how little distance a full tank gets you in a farrari, or any big engine. The inefficiency is ridicolous
it isn't power to weight. it's torque. the electric motor doesn't have to rev to get torque. the torque is always there and if controlled properly, it will have maximum grip at all times...if you watch the part with the carerra gt, you'll hear the tires from the porche spinning. listen to the engine and how the revs go up and down because it is losing traction. not a problem with the electric car at all
ITS NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IT IS!!!! Same frame but not with a Honda motor but an electric one. Normally I would just educate you but since you have to disrespect the entire American nation Here you have it!. Now EAT IT! You stupid ignorant piece of fucking shit! You're the kind of person that would judge and jury a whole entire race for one persons crime. People like you need to die!
For all those times I'm racing the 1/4 mile (yeah, right) I'll take the X1. for the other 99.999% of the time when I don't have 45 minutes to charge up every 200 miles, I'll take the Porsche.
it's simply a fact that electric motors have full torque available from 1rpm to max whereas an IC engine first has to develop (far less) torque and then marry that up to the drive train (man or auto). Full hybrids can easily push IC cars to one side simply by having a small onboard ICE as the generator (producing far less CO2). We could be there now, but politics (oil etc.) and lobbying stops it. Quite simple. Full hybrid cars will have more than 2000Nm of torque. NO IC cars have that now.
Politics?? Are you serious?? You really think oil company cronies are going to every university and every independent electric car shop and shutting them down?? God you're naive.
kfumike: No you're saying that. I didn't describe how they have done it, you just did. The entire world knows that there has always been an oil lobby. And classic car makers have had no interest in the past in taking the risk of swapping to a technology that is risky. Car mkers could make the full hybrid but they don't. Oil companies have indeed supported car makers big time and maintained an interest that fuel burners remain the mainstream vehicles. That may change soon, but it will take a whi
trident3b . Find me ONE shred of evidence, just one little objective journalistic piece of information that ties oil companies to car companies. Seriously, that shit is getting old. I've been hearing it for 30 years now and NO ONE has ever been able to show me this backroom contract that oil companies have with car companies. Onus of proof is on you, as youre the one perpetuating the nutball conspiracy theory.
You'll soon find GM selling a controlling interest in patents for NiMH EV batteries to Chevron/Texaco who in turn sued Toyota and Panasonic for $32 Million and restricted the size of NiMH battery they could sell in the US until 2014
that's exactly what happen, you are the naive here, if you have any doubt try to remember what happened with preston tucker, when he tried to make safety car´s
@trident3b If a car of any engine type had 2kNm or ~1500ft lbs it would not have rubber on the tires for long. I once drove a drag car with "cheater" tires on the street once and it was difficult to not leave rubber on a start. Now, this was a real racecar with no business on the street and an engine with a peak of about 1500 ft lbs. At idle WAY less. This thing ran the quarters in the high 7s on slicks and fuel. I would not want to drive something like that daily, or frankly, again.
no matter how efficient, how fast, or how economic the car really is, lets face it, if you own a ferrari, or a porsche you have the money to drive it, so you dont give a shit about the price it costs to drive, also you drive for the feel, the sound of that awesome v10 race engine. not cuz it can go 20 kph or 400 kph
your freaking electric car can reach 150-200 klm? it just has a crasy acceleration. the porche gt can reach 409 klm even more then the bugatti. Are you trying to convince people that your car is faster? but im not gonna hide that i was suprised, and i hope cars like these will someday come in our lifes.
Who on earth needs are road car that'll do 400kph???? A public road isn't a race track!
This EV will do over 180 kph which is almost 40% more than any legal speed limit (and don't bother to mention Autobarns... you don't live in Germany and neither do I)
The fact is.... the EV is only 230 hp.... costs $1.50 per 100km to drive and blows off 600hp + cars that cost $30 per 100km.
hmm interesting but you see porches and f430s don't need to run their ass off on every light to prove them selfs (imagine one of those on your streets) or get stares suggesting some thing along the lines of "whos that confident looking queer driving around in his go-kart..." and thats just a start. don't get me wrong i like electric motors more but it not our time yet so until then i'll stick with my tt.
First off i think its trying to demonstrate electric vehicles can outperform petrol....SO PUT IT AGAINST THE PETROL ARIEL ATOM (IT LOSES!0-60 takes 2.7-2.9 secs)
Second - an electric carrera gt/ferrari wouldn't be as fast/will have the same wheelspin problems due to inertia. It will still lose
This test is not comparable - the petrol counterparts would always beat the electric ones (unless they arent street legal)
If you knew anything about electric cars, (or if you just payed attention to ian in the vid), you'd know they are way more efficient than gas. You don't even know the fact's of the gas atom vs the ev and you make such absurd claims!
Oh the ignorance is hurting my head! Make it stop!
sure the EV was faster than the cars it was tested against, but i wouldn't consider it a car, rather an electric kart. so who cares if its faster, its not even a car.
No big deal. E-Motors have more torque than normal petrol engines. In theory they habe most torque at 0 RPM. The CGT has most torque at 8000 RPM or so...
Driving isn't all about what a vehicle can do on paper. The EV doesn't hold a candle to any Ferrari in terms of craftsmanship or sheer sensual experience. That's because they're works of art.
People will still pay astronomical amounts of money for a Ferrari GTO manufactured in 1962. It's certainly not the fastest car out there - not by a long shot. But, they pay the money because to drive a Ferrari is to drive a piece of history.
If given the choice, I'd drive ANY Ferrari over the EV.
Ariel atom chassis and styling without the atoms performance. The Atoms got a power to weight ratio of more than an Enzo and 0-60mph at 2.5 secs. How many racing cars have those stats. We still way off EV's
The 300hp supercharged Atom that weighs only 1005lb does EXACTLEY the same 0-60 (3 sec)and 1/4 mile time (11.5) as the EV which has only 220hp and weighs 1536lb.
So it's just as fast with a much worse power to weight ratio but costs only $0.01 per mile to drive.
That's great and all, but the races between these cars are all about acceleration and end already in just over 3rd gear where the power of the Ferrari and Porsche is just started to be seen. No arguing here, but there's a reason for weight classes, even in Le Mans.
The Porsche has approx 3x the horse power of the EV yet weighs only 2x as much. To make it a 'fair' race and even up the hp/ton ratio the EV needs to turn up with 307hp, approx 40% more than what it has.
What you're seeing is an Electric Motor with 100% torque from zero rpm. Any ICE is simply beaten as soon as it drops the clutch.
Reading some of these comments makes me sick. Stop being so ignorant and WAKE UP to the state of the world. Sure these amazing looking cars will always be available, but would you be proud to own a 10 mpg vehicle (or less), when there are 0 emission vehicles out there? Make some changes in your lives, and be prepared, because over the next 4 years, people who drive gas guzzling vehicles will be looked at like and treated the way smokers are looked at and treated now.imo. and pick up some garbage
this video is a load of shit. no battery powered car can fucking beat a ferrari and a porsche. and if it truely is so damn fast then i doubt itll be street legal.
The X1 might be cool and fast, but it only makes such a fast time because the eletronic powered wheels balances for traction control = you cant do a burn out, whats the point having a pricey sports car if it doesnt make noise and burn rubber, it would make sense as a city car but not a sports car yet, there is still more oil left in the earth for us to bleed.
The comparison that you mentioned was with the Prius racing full-out all the way around a closed race track while the BMW just shadowed the Prius. The Prius is not desinged for track racing, it is optimized for stop and go city traffic. If you compared those same two cars in stop and go urban traffic it would be a completely different result. Hopefully, electric cars will soon replace all ic cars. As far as the sound... if you lived near a busy road you might appreciate electrics more.
You'd have to question anyone who set up such a test. Clarkson is just reinforcing the stereotype where idiots drive a Prius for an hour down a motorway and can't figure out why it doesn't save fuel. We're talking brain dead morons here!
if you look at the rest of the episode you see clarkson explaining the journey the nikel out of the expensive, not very efficient nickel metal hydride batteries in a prius. I am all for electric cars i just don't believe battery technology has advanced far enough for it to be a dependency and i think they would probably be better with lithium polymer batteries, lithium ion batteries and the more recently developed lithium iron batteries. and i think jeremy clarkson is a tit :)
the big difference in the cars is like how the nhra top fuels and funny cars were before the most recent nitro %age drop. top fuel was quicker 4.5 secs and funny cars were faster at 330 mph but slower time at 4.8 seconds. the electric has all it's torque at 100rpm and the ferarri and porsche shift atleast 3 times in the 1/4 mile(losing e.t. time). now the ferarri and porsche will smoke that electic in a lap around lowes motor speed way but the key is distance traveled.
The difference is an EV has Max torque from 1 rpm and the torque curve is almost flat from there to redline. The ICE in the Porsche doesn't hit max torque till over 5750rpm hence ALL ICEs need a multi speed gearbox just to be drivable.
The EV is geared for a top speed of only 110mph with just one gear. If it had the same range of gears as the Porsche etc, it would win on a 200mph speedway too with a lower power to weight ratio.
the normal petrol ariel atom on which this car is based is faster to 60 and would be all these supercars anyway, just look in the top gear test track times
Yet another 20 yo know all. As usual you are missing the point entirely!
The ICE Atom you refer to has 300hp, this EV has 220hp yet does EXACTLY the same times, BUT costs $2.50 to 'fill up' for a range of 100 miles. It's something in the region of 1/20th to 1/30th the cost of running on petrol!
What does a gallon of petrol cost in the UK today < $10.00
Immer diese dummen Verlgleiche. Probiert das auf einer doppelt so langen Strecke und der X1 hat nicht den Hauch einer Chance. Den Beschleunigungstest hätte vermutlich selbst ein M3 auf kurzer Distanz geschafft.
The acceleration is impressive, but on a long distance the X1 wouldnt stand a chance against a 612 hp V10 engine!!
Es ist immer der 20yo's! Sehen ist beliveing Kind, schneller auf 100 mph und nutzt die Energie 1/20th machen. Ich kann nicht sehen, die zeigen, wenn er sagt, das Einzige, was die Porsche ist noch besser gehen 200 mph, wenn es sich um eine völlig unbrauchbar-Funktion für eine Straße Auto.
well Im sure the X1 is fun to drive and its a good vehicle, but to me it will never offer the driving experience of a real car. it's probably similar to an ariel atom.
by the way there's no speed limit on german motorways, for us its not completely useless function. you can go to race track as well.
The stupid autobarn argument, how rediculous! For the 200+ countries in the world that DON'T have autobahn it's totally irrelavant and much of the 'autobahn' is speed limited anyways!
Really nice invetion, but i think its Ugly =) sorry mate. If you could make it look like a ferrari and still have the same performance and capabilities I would definetly want one!
The Porsche has 400hp per ton, the EV is about 300hp per ton.
The truth is you need more than 600hp per ton, like a Ferrari Enzo, just to match the speed of the EV. It does 0-60 in 3.07 sec, an Enzo does 3.4 the Porsche does 3.9
all you need to know is thats its 0-60 in less than 3 secs and gets insane ammount of fuel mileage! as soon as i have enough saved up im opening a EV shop (selling, converting, repairing), people say diesel the future,
the idiots driving the 360 and carerra gt dont know how to use a clutch, they both barely moved off the line, those two cars do 0-60 in 3.2 which is not slow (dont know what atch is on about - exotic cars are bloody fast 1/4 mile), but the atom is 0-60 2.6 ish, which isnt that greater....
Fuk The Bugatti... So many idiots like them. They suck. V16 Quad turbo... waste of money... By the way. When it comes to the 1/4 mile.... non of the exotics are fast..
I cant believe the number of idiot posts on this article. The educated know, gasoline powered engines day are numbered. In 15 years most car races wont even use gas. This is proof that most humans cant see change coming unless it slaps them in the face.
2010 will be a big year for Electric Cars as the Big auto makers will have production of EV sized Li-ion batteries up to speed by then as they launch their 1st EV models. Market competition will ensure prices drop from 2010 on wards.
Wont the extra coal we burn at the power plant in order to charge our electric vehicles offset the reduction in tailpipe emissions anyway? Seems like still, even now, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
stratocast04 2 months ago
@stratocast04 To state the obvious, not all electricity is generated with coal! In fact...in the US less than 50% is coal sourced and reducing each year. Secondly, moving to EVs is like swapping incandescent lamps for LEDs, they do the same work but on 1/10th the energy.
tsport100 2 months ago
Those are not very good representatives of Porsche or Ferrari, in fact those are some of their worst cars. Buy a golf diesle now or a Fiat 500, they're cleaner than the Prius anyway. Also buy a real Atom, it will destroy your face.
wikieditspam 5 months ago
Ok people need to chill and get their facts straight. There is no reason that the EV atom shouldn't beat the gas cars in an 1/4 mile, because, unless it is different from conventional electric motors, the EV atom has the ability to go from 0% performance to 100% performance in an instant. Its just the way electric motors work. You also may notice that the Ariel weighs FREAKING NOTHING! Is it gimmick-y going from a rolling start and only doing a 1/4 mile, perhaps. But the EV Atom is quicker.
chefpet 7 months ago
What's the point on comparing a car to a toy?
TheTherapy13 8 months ago
Question: Why is this an 1/8th mile "track"? Wouldn't a 1/4 mile or better yet, a full mile be a better test? These super cars are after all, designed for ultra high speeds. Is it because this faux-atom would get totally destroyed? Probably so. Also, why are the two supercars granny shifting? And what's up with the roll start with the carerra? That seems like trickery. You can spend 7k bucks on a POS Honda CRX and make it faster in an 1/8th than those two super cars. This all seems fake.
minitstop 8 months ago
Fuck oil companies that buy battery patents so they cant be produced.
isk3602007 8 months ago
@isk3602007 i dunno man,the feeling of running 30psi on e85 is pretty amazing lol
fresh81steez 2 months ago
electric atom vs the tango, im sure the atom would win but id love to see how the tango compares
TheMainMan318 9 months ago
nice.....i had the honour of him coming to my high school in new Zealand about 2 yrs ago and he was friggin great
aaron7jones 9 months ago
asi o mas rápido hahahahaha
camiloolartevideos 9 months ago
the atom is electric?
parth17870 11 months ago
@parth17870 No, there using the same body.
jsquad192837465 10 months ago
@parth17870 this one is.
HBlakeH 9 months ago
electric motors are just plain better than gas in every way! imagine if the electric car motor had 10% ( or less) the research funding gasoline motors have per year . holy fuck tard watch out!
tool5150 11 months ago
@tool5150 tru, not yet in all circumstances maybe. electric infrastucture but stil. Not only better more efficient greener on paper, thats already proven. Now, if we get the electricity production green (0 emission) we are there!
onlymusicism 8 months ago
@tool5150 AND they prolong to use and dependency on oil. Exactly what big oil wants!!
minitstop 8 months ago
electric motors are just plain better than gas in every way!
tool5150 11 months ago
at the end of the day I would take the CGT over the atom ANYDAY!
Tokyuuu 1 year ago
run it against the arial atom v8. if it wins then, i will be inpressed
ir3a11ydontn0 1 year ago
Yea save money in gas so when battery dies all that saved money for gas goes to a battery to be installed
caLi2o9 1 year ago
@caLi2o9 Swapping a battery once a decade is cheaper than replacing the entire car because the entire ICE powertrain is worn out!
tsport100 1 year ago 5
@tsport100 once a decade is VERY optimistic..... once every five years sounds more realistic.
hsew 3 months ago
@hsew Gonna have to call you on that one! There are plenty of Hybrid and EV taxi in Japan and China that have passed 100,000 miles without any battery degradation... That's equal to 10 years for the average motorist!
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coponico1 1 year ago
i love how you can only hear the ariels wheels peeling out because its virtually silent
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I like it. just saw Running On Lithium and that I like much more.
filmrancher 1 year ago
sick :)
Container1971 1 year ago
Lol carrera GT had traction control on I could hear the power cutting
M5board shows the ariel getting destroyed
carGT222 1 year ago
owned
stevo21tanner20 1 year ago
the atom because its electric takes off a lot faster
xcrazywhiteboyx73 1 year ago
Why did they ruin an atom, how dare they
hayden2196 1 year ago
Im all for electric cars but what would happen if this car catches fire vs a standard petrol car?
I've seen some devastating effects of lithium fires, fuel too but compared with each other what would be worst?
How long do the take to fully fuel Vs a petrol car.
For your information on a 2010 Porsche 911 turbo engine you get 16-mpg in the city and 24-mpg on the highway, so your comparison / estimate is a little off. Plus you've not applied the actual cost of charging to your running cost.
ecotts 1 year ago
At the end of the day, I don't know a single person who'd pick the electric toaster oven car over a Carerra GT
veryslyfox 1 year ago
This car is absolutely amazing. i want one.
SuperBeatnuts 1 year ago
No disrepect intended. It is an awesome machine for man to behold. Thank u for the correction. I only kno the aireal atom is gas powered. Hats off 2 u for the vid and hats off foe those who created such powerful machines for man to "attempt" to control
kelsocoleman 1 year ago
NOT an aireal atom. This is an tesla f1
kelsocoleman 1 year ago
@kelsocoleman Wrightspeed X1, you were close!
tsport100 1 year ago
great concept and awesome performance, but will need alot of revision to get it to a stage where more people will want to use it everyday. as it is, it's a great weekend trashabout. the problem is with batteries and charging time. sure you could swap them out but who wants to muck about with that. 3mins refueling with petrol and you're back up and running at full steam.
but great car.
blackmancer 2 years ago
Brilliant car, deffo the way to go.
lostboysonbikes 2 years ago
Being an electric motor, I would of expected more than 182 ft lbs torque...
Vietwhiteboy 2 years ago
@Vietwhiteboy
It's probably limited by the batteries.
hjjfffaa 1 year ago
How do electric cars do on wet roads like snow? Too much wheel spin and it's dangerous. Still need traction control.
3089280288 2 years ago
@3089280288 Good question. The AC Induction motor in the EV has traction control by default.
An AC motor generates torque in response to load, so if the traction is limited, the load will be minimal and so the AC motor will generate minimum torque.
Also If the tires do break traction and spin the AC motor automatically "regen" brakes and slow down again.
Note at the end of the video how hard it is to get the EV to wheel spin.
tsport100 2 years ago
@tsport100 Yeah, AND you can get whatever torque you want, at any speed (no gears), so it would be more controllable even without T/C. This is also why they run the 1/4 faster and quicker with the same power & weight.. No shifting.
sterlingab 1 year ago
Cool! Without a doubt EV is the way to go!!!
yellowsharkss 2 years ago
damn
commandercornish 2 years ago
it may have been faster over the quarter mile, but the battery probably would of been flat if it had to go any further
abe13maz 2 years ago
Typically it uses 500 watt hours per run, the battery pack is 25 kWh so it could do up to 50 runs per charge.
You're slightly less ignorant now!
tsport100 2 years ago
Thats still only about 13 miles on one battery, how far can the ferrari and the porsche go on one tank?
abe13maz 2 years ago
The EV has 100 mile range and costs $0.02 per mile to drive. The Porsche gets about 10 mpg and costs $0.45 per mile ( 22.5 x as much PER MILE)
Make all the rediculous statements you want, you're simply WRONG! LOL
tsport100 2 years ago
@tsport100 UMM, 2cents per mile? No way can it be close to that. That's like a bicycle's cost. Seriously, did you mean to say 20cents, which is still quite good.
sterlingab 1 year ago
@sterlingab The cost of electricity in the US averages $0.10 per kWh, that's 1000 watt hours. Most EVs use approx 200 watt hours per mile. So 1 kWh, or $0.10 worth of electricity will give an EV 5 miles worth of range, that's $0.02 per mile. Look it up on the Tesla Motors web site if you want to confirm it.
You'll reduce your fuel bill by 90%+ with a plug-in EV over a ICE car. Now you get some idea why every auto maker on the planet are developing EVs.
tsport100 1 year ago
@tsport100 LOL..."get some idea why every auto maker...". YOU need to get the idea, slick. The ONLY reason EVs are being made by major manufacturers is govt pressure. there is practically NO consumer demand. That's what "freedom" looks like nowadays.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 "NO consumer demand" ? LOL That's why the gen 3 Toyota Prius has been the #1 selling vehicle in Japan for 15 months straight since the day it was launched and the Nissan Leaf pre-sold 20,000 cars in the first 35 days without so much as a test drive, yep... zero demand!! LOL
tsport100 1 year ago
@abe13maz Going at full throttle, you'd be amazed at how little distance a full tank gets you in a farrari, or any big engine. The inefficiency is ridicolous
rockbore 1 year ago
ok now let's make a Ferrari electric car! haha
Jamirofan89 2 years ago
It can be done!
3089280288 2 years ago
So it's only like .4s quicker across the quarter than an R35 GTR? .. Doesn't seem that great to me ...
princessjennacat 2 years ago
how come it still has the intake? and how can they call it an x1 when buell had an x1 years ago? no copyright?
brittenv1000 2 years ago
it doesn't have an intake. it's a fully electric engine. there might be vents to cool the generator, but that's about it....
tallkid 2 years ago
power to weight. big deal.
NucleoVega 2 years ago
You do the math
Ferrari 360 Spider - 400Bhp / 3197lb
Porsche Carrera GT - 605Bhp / 3043lb
Wrighspeed X1 - 220Bhp / 1536lb
tsport100 2 years ago
it isn't power to weight. it's torque. the electric motor doesn't have to rev to get torque. the torque is always there and if controlled properly, it will have maximum grip at all times...if you watch the part with the carerra gt, you'll hear the tires from the porche spinning. listen to the engine and how the revs go up and down because it is losing traction. not a problem with the electric car at all
tallkid 2 years ago
Mmmm... Fast, hot, and so delightfully silent. I hate how loud cars are. That thing just rocks!
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stupid americans. its an ariel atom. what do americans kow about cars huh?
opethsdarkestfan 2 years ago
ITS NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IT IS!!!! Same frame but not with a Honda motor but an electric one. Normally I would just educate you but since you have to disrespect the entire American nation Here you have it!. Now EAT IT! You stupid ignorant piece of fucking shit! You're the kind of person that would judge and jury a whole entire race for one persons crime. People like you need to die!
vexviper 2 years ago
For all those times I'm racing the 1/4 mile (yeah, right) I'll take the X1. for the other 99.999% of the time when I don't have 45 minutes to charge up every 200 miles, I'll take the Porsche.
kfumike 2 years ago
it's simply a fact that electric motors have full torque available from 1rpm to max whereas an IC engine first has to develop (far less) torque and then marry that up to the drive train (man or auto). Full hybrids can easily push IC cars to one side simply by having a small onboard ICE as the generator (producing far less CO2). We could be there now, but politics (oil etc.) and lobbying stops it. Quite simple. Full hybrid cars will have more than 2000Nm of torque. NO IC cars have that now.
trident3b 2 years ago
Politics?? Are you serious?? You really think oil company cronies are going to every university and every independent electric car shop and shutting them down?? God you're naive.
kfumike 2 years ago
kfumike: No you're saying that. I didn't describe how they have done it, you just did. The entire world knows that there has always been an oil lobby. And classic car makers have had no interest in the past in taking the risk of swapping to a technology that is risky. Car mkers could make the full hybrid but they don't. Oil companies have indeed supported car makers big time and maintained an interest that fuel burners remain the mainstream vehicles. That may change soon, but it will take a whi
trident3b 2 years ago
trident3b . Find me ONE shred of evidence, just one little objective journalistic piece of information that ties oil companies to car companies. Seriously, that shit is getting old. I've been hearing it for 30 years now and NO ONE has ever been able to show me this backroom contract that oil companies have with car companies. Onus of proof is on you, as youre the one perpetuating the nutball conspiracy theory.
kfumike 2 years ago
Look up "Cobasys" and "ECD Ovonics".
You'll soon find GM selling a controlling interest in patents for NiMH EV batteries to Chevron/Texaco who in turn sued Toyota and Panasonic for $32 Million and restricted the size of NiMH battery they could sell in the US until 2014
tsport100 2 years ago
if you r wating to see the contracts... please open your eyes, do not be so naive.
Weisstras 2 years ago
that's exactly what happen, you are the naive here, if you have any doubt try to remember what happened with preston tucker, when he tried to make safety car´s
Weisstras 2 years ago
@trident3b If a car of any engine type had 2kNm or ~1500ft lbs it would not have rubber on the tires for long. I once drove a drag car with "cheater" tires on the street once and it was difficult to not leave rubber on a start. Now, this was a real racecar with no business on the street and an engine with a peak of about 1500 ft lbs. At idle WAY less. This thing ran the quarters in the high 7s on slicks and fuel. I would not want to drive something like that daily, or frankly, again.
sterlingab 1 year ago
the video is great man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2161579 2 years ago 3
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it is alot faster but who the fuk wud wanna drive somet like tht around i wud much rather drive a porsche carrera gt
joshez245 2 years ago
Fuck Fuel Economy, I said...
Przemusiek 2 years ago
Amen to that!!!
shbycbra427 2 years ago
@tsport100: you are the man! :D
michael9515 2 years ago
der porsche ist trotzdem besser
kskkt 3 years ago
ja klar
hotforgibson 2 years ago
what about Gemballa Mirage GT????....=D buhuhaha!!!
aleksandarfriscic 3 years ago
no matter how efficient, how fast, or how economic the car really is, lets face it, if you own a ferrari, or a porsche you have the money to drive it, so you dont give a shit about the price it costs to drive, also you drive for the feel, the sound of that awesome v10 race engine. not cuz it can go 20 kph or 400 kph
marcezs08 3 years ago 2
actualy if you wright down Ariel Atom top gear, you will see how fast it is, actualy on second thought im REALY suprised, and im a fan from now on :>
sakatis 3 years ago
your freaking electric car can reach 150-200 klm? it just has a crasy acceleration. the porche gt can reach 409 klm even more then the bugatti. Are you trying to convince people that your car is faster? but im not gonna hide that i was suprised, and i hope cars like these will someday come in our lifes.
sakatis 3 years ago
Listen mate...
Who on earth needs are road car that'll do 400kph???? A public road isn't a race track!
This EV will do over 180 kph which is almost 40% more than any legal speed limit (and don't bother to mention Autobarns... you don't live in Germany and neither do I)
The fact is.... the EV is only 230 hp.... costs $1.50 per 100km to drive and blows off 600hp + cars that cost $30 per 100km.
tsport100 3 years ago
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sakatis 3 years ago
hmm interesting but you see porches and f430s don't need to run their ass off on every light to prove them selfs (imagine one of those on your streets) or get stares suggesting some thing along the lines of "whos that confident looking queer driving around in his go-kart..." and thats just a start. don't get me wrong i like electric motors more but it not our time yet so until then i'll stick with my tt.
mk701 3 years ago
wow it beat a gt... i want one!!
lionloose 3 years ago
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Fuck electic cars if you wanna drive one you'll look like a bitch doing it. Mas puto!
15PhenomenoN 3 years ago
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This is a really stupid test.
First off i think its trying to demonstrate electric vehicles can outperform petrol....SO PUT IT AGAINST THE PETROL ARIEL ATOM (IT LOSES!0-60 takes 2.7-2.9 secs)
Second - an electric carrera gt/ferrari wouldn't be as fast/will have the same wheelspin problems due to inertia. It will still lose
This test is not comparable - the petrol counterparts would always beat the electric ones (unless they arent street legal)
kbunja 3 years ago
Get your facts straight!
The "petrol Atom" you refer to has 300HP AND is 250kg lighter than the EV yet does EXACTLEY the same 1/4 mile time and EXACTLEY the same 0-60.
The EV has 220Hp and costs ONLY $0.01 per mile to drive.
If SEEING a 650hp ICE getting it's arse kicked by a 220hp EV doesn't convince you, nothing will!
tsport100 3 years ago
wait for it... ya you're REALLY dumb.
If you knew anything about electric cars, (or if you just payed attention to ian in the vid), you'd know they are way more efficient than gas. You don't even know the fact's of the gas atom vs the ev and you make such absurd claims!
Oh the ignorance is hurting my head! Make it stop!
deepsinK 3 years ago
I might buy an electric car wen someone makes one that isnt ass ugly. till then ill still dream about porches and ferraris
lukemcclelland 3 years ago
electric mini is coming out in 2009-
they claim to have built it like a diesel electric car, where a small motorbike engine can recharge engine-
they claim 900km range
ycats1000 3 years ago
That company went into bankrupcy Nov last year so don't hold your breath.
tsport100 3 years ago
So you've never seen a Tesla then? They look surprisingly like...er...a Ferrari, but cost less.
The point is, ANYONE can make an EV that looks like ANY car, or weren't you paying attention these past few years?
VimVendors 2 years ago
sure the EV was faster than the cars it was tested against, but i wouldn't consider it a car, rather an electric kart. so who cares if its faster, its not even a car.
kyoungxlee 3 years ago
4 wheels and street legal, yup it's a car, and a damn good one at that.
deepsinK 3 years ago
ferrari and porchse got owned!@!@!@!@!@! and they cost way more wtf. im going to buy an eletric car and own some ferraris.
mustkillu135 3 years ago
wow !!
o0OigorO0o 3 years ago
No big deal. E-Motors have more torque than normal petrol engines. In theory they habe most torque at 0 RPM. The CGT has most torque at 8000 RPM or so...
CptCumshot 3 years ago
Driving isn't all about what a vehicle can do on paper. The EV doesn't hold a candle to any Ferrari in terms of craftsmanship or sheer sensual experience. That's because they're works of art.
People will still pay astronomical amounts of money for a Ferrari GTO manufactured in 1962. It's certainly not the fastest car out there - not by a long shot. But, they pay the money because to drive a Ferrari is to drive a piece of history.
If given the choice, I'd drive ANY Ferrari over the EV.
z3rsk1 3 years ago
Ariel atom chassis and styling without the atoms performance. The Atoms got a power to weight ratio of more than an Enzo and 0-60mph at 2.5 secs. How many racing cars have those stats. We still way off EV's
AllanDBates 3 years ago
You have 'invented' that figure!
The 300hp supercharged Atom that weighs only 1005lb does EXACTLEY the same 0-60 (3 sec)and 1/4 mile time (11.5) as the EV which has only 220hp and weighs 1536lb.
So it's just as fast with a much worse power to weight ratio but costs only $0.01 per mile to drive.
tsport100 3 years ago
This EV should be put up against something in its weight class such as F1 or F3 instead of these relative heavies.
bigjelmapro 3 years ago
Ferrari 360 Spider - 400Bhp / 3197lb
Porsche Carrera GT - 605Bhp / 3043lb
Wrighspeed X1 - 220Bhp / 1536lb
As you can see the 'heavy' Porsche still has a better power to weight ratio than the EV.
tsport100 3 years ago
That's great and all, but the races between these cars are all about acceleration and end already in just over 3rd gear where the power of the Ferrari and Porsche is just started to be seen. No arguing here, but there's a reason for weight classes, even in Le Mans.
bigjelmapro 3 years ago
Do some basic math.
The Porsche has approx 3x the horse power of the EV yet weighs only 2x as much. To make it a 'fair' race and even up the hp/ton ratio the EV needs to turn up with 307hp, approx 40% more than what it has.
What you're seeing is an Electric Motor with 100% torque from zero rpm. Any ICE is simply beaten as soon as it drops the clutch.
tsport100 3 years ago
Reading some of these comments makes me sick. Stop being so ignorant and WAKE UP to the state of the world. Sure these amazing looking cars will always be available, but would you be proud to own a 10 mpg vehicle (or less), when there are 0 emission vehicles out there? Make some changes in your lives, and be prepared, because over the next 4 years, people who drive gas guzzling vehicles will be looked at like and treated the way smokers are looked at and treated now.imo. and pick up some garbage
iamandrewhall 3 years ago
How does the electric motor work also as the break (regenerative breaking)? Could you perhaps post a vid of this concept? if you can find one.
kempingpeg 3 years ago
Fast as hell, and fun to zip around in I guess, but definitly notta Chick magnet, so I'm going w/the Porsche =P
PyQua2 3 years ago
this video is a load of shit. no battery powered car can fucking beat a ferrari and a porsche. and if it truely is so damn fast then i doubt itll be street legal.
HaloSpartan86 3 years ago
Keep looking Pal, Seeing is believeing. I have a load more videos on my channel showing exactly the same thing!
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not true LOL.
tsport100 3 years ago
The X1 might be cool and fast, but it only makes such a fast time because the eletronic powered wheels balances for traction control = you cant do a burn out, whats the point having a pricey sports car if it doesnt make noise and burn rubber, it would make sense as a city car but not a sports car yet, there is still more oil left in the earth for us to bleed.
SuicidalLooney 3 years ago
If you don't think EVs can do burnouts search for "Killacycle" on my channel and become enlightened!
tsport100 3 years ago
this is an arial atom, with an electric engine..
Endymaeria 3 years ago 4
lol x1? and whos gonna prefer an x1 when theres a porsche cgt and modena lol?
e36mmm 3 years ago
Someone who can add!!
The X1 is 1/10th the purchase price of the Porsche, costs 1/30th the price per mile to drive and does 0-60 is almost a full second FASTER!
tsport100 3 years ago
I could listen to the GT all day in this video!!
Jman32183 3 years ago
I definately wouldn't mind this X1 car, but i would still prefer the roar of a supercar :)
vanepico 3 years ago
Look at what's he doing at 0:26 lol, what a powerful car :D
meongoan1987 3 years ago
electric just doesn't sound right compared to an IC engine, the Toyota Prius is terrible as top gear showed a BMW had better fuel consumption :)
vanepico 3 years ago
I don't see a Prius anywhere in this video!
tsport100 3 years ago
The comparison that you mentioned was with the Prius racing full-out all the way around a closed race track while the BMW just shadowed the Prius. The Prius is not desinged for track racing, it is optimized for stop and go city traffic. If you compared those same two cars in stop and go urban traffic it would be a completely different result. Hopefully, electric cars will soon replace all ic cars. As far as the sound... if you lived near a busy road you might appreciate electrics more.
SideburnerSol 3 years ago 2
You'd have to question anyone who set up such a test. Clarkson is just reinforcing the stereotype where idiots drive a Prius for an hour down a motorway and can't figure out why it doesn't save fuel. We're talking brain dead morons here!
tsport100 3 years ago
if you look at the rest of the episode you see clarkson explaining the journey the nikel out of the expensive, not very efficient nickel metal hydride batteries in a prius. I am all for electric cars i just don't believe battery technology has advanced far enough for it to be a dependency and i think they would probably be better with lithium polymer batteries, lithium ion batteries and the more recently developed lithium iron batteries. and i think jeremy clarkson is a tit :)
vanepico 3 years ago
my dad gots a porche =D i love it
sk8ermaffia 3 years ago
Well go out and have a look at back of it to learn how to spell 'Porsche' !
tsport100 3 years ago
damn
akolegal18 3 years ago
that is an ariel atom that`s been butchered to run on duracell batteries
simoncbr900rr 3 years ago
Electric is impressive only snag is the battery cost and limitations. Electric cars are quite simple regarding the parts involved vs the gas car.
U20E27 3 years ago
being a supercar freak... i refuse to believe this. i mean if this is possible... kudos to you, but it lacks the style.
AwesomePictures 3 years ago
the big difference in the cars is like how the nhra top fuels and funny cars were before the most recent nitro %age drop. top fuel was quicker 4.5 secs and funny cars were faster at 330 mph but slower time at 4.8 seconds. the electric has all it's torque at 100rpm and the ferarri and porsche shift atleast 3 times in the 1/4 mile(losing e.t. time). now the ferarri and porsche will smoke that electic in a lap around lowes motor speed way but the key is distance traveled.
bd189 3 years ago
The difference is an EV has Max torque from 1 rpm and the torque curve is almost flat from there to redline. The ICE in the Porsche doesn't hit max torque till over 5750rpm hence ALL ICEs need a multi speed gearbox just to be drivable.
The EV is geared for a top speed of only 110mph with just one gear. If it had the same range of gears as the Porsche etc, it would win on a 200mph speedway too with a lower power to weight ratio.
tsport100 3 years ago
what do you think the weight differance is?
katierh0024 3 years ago
Ferrari 360 Spider - 400Bhp / 3197lb / 11 MPG
Porsche Carrera GT - 605Bhp / 3043lb / 10 MPG
Wrighspeed X1 - 220Bhp / 1536lb / 170 MPG
(Energy consumption 200 WHr/mile in urban use, equivalent to 170 mpg (33,705 WHr/gallon) Cost approx $0.02 per Mile.)
tsport100 3 years ago
bastards tried to copy ariel atom, the atom has civic type R engine with a supercharger and does about 0-62 in 2.9 seconds
untickledryme69 3 years ago
NO IT IS A DIERECT COPY
spongebobranchpants 3 years ago
It sounds like a hairdryer.
KINGBOOTY36 3 years ago
the normal petrol ariel atom on which this car is based is faster to 60 and would be all these supercars anyway, just look in the top gear test track times
londonsfynest 3 years ago
Yet another 20 yo know all. As usual you are missing the point entirely!
The ICE Atom you refer to has 300hp, this EV has 220hp yet does EXACTLY the same times, BUT costs $2.50 to 'fill up' for a range of 100 miles. It's something in the region of 1/20th to 1/30th the cost of running on petrol!
What does a gallon of petrol cost in the UK today < $10.00
tsport100 3 years ago
lol.... an combustion engine will never beat a electric motor...
mrnekojuanito 3 years ago
race it against a comparable car. The 360 is a shitty comparison. It's a completely different type of car.
tmass1 3 years ago
Immer diese dummen Verlgleiche. Probiert das auf einer doppelt so langen Strecke und der X1 hat nicht den Hauch einer Chance. Den Beschleunigungstest hätte vermutlich selbst ein M3 auf kurzer Distanz geschafft.
The acceleration is impressive, but on a long distance the X1 wouldnt stand a chance against a 612 hp V10 engine!!
KilianTheKiller 3 years ago
Es ist immer der 20yo's! Sehen ist beliveing Kind, schneller auf 100 mph und nutzt die Energie 1/20th machen. Ich kann nicht sehen, die zeigen, wenn er sagt, das Einzige, was die Porsche ist noch besser gehen 200 mph, wenn es sich um eine völlig unbrauchbar-Funktion für eine Straße Auto.
tsport100 3 years ago
well Im sure the X1 is fun to drive and its a good vehicle, but to me it will never offer the driving experience of a real car. it's probably similar to an ariel atom.
by the way there's no speed limit on german motorways, for us its not completely useless function. you can go to race track as well.
KilianTheKiller 3 years ago
The stupid autobarn argument, how rediculous! For the 200+ countries in the world that DON'T have autobahn it's totally irrelavant and much of the 'autobahn' is speed limited anyways!
Grow up!
tsport100 3 years ago
holy fuck!
CastroL94 3 years ago
It makes perfectly sense. Electric motors have an inherent momentum that are 300% bigger than any ottomotor engine.
Thus the torque is soo much larger, and the acceleration is crazy compared to any pistonengine.
Funkywallot 3 years ago
what's the difference between that and an Ariel Atom?
Christoo92 3 years ago
It's Electric!
tsport100 3 years ago
ariel atom has way more style
tmass1 3 years ago
It's the same freaking body... what are you talking about.
badpeach 3 years ago
very impressive but it's ugly as fuck.
bajanbaw 3 years ago
wow impressive
94EglVisionTSI 3 years ago
Really nice invetion, but i think its Ugly =) sorry mate. If you could make it look like a ferrari and still have the same performance and capabilities I would definetly want one!
fitnessmies 3 years ago
same performance and capabilities... no way... it would be so much better
but yeah its not so good looking.
tonn333 3 years ago
That sure looks like an Aerial Atom
gtasacrazyboy 3 years ago 4
The Porsche has 400hp per ton, the EV is about 300hp per ton.
The truth is you need more than 600hp per ton, like a Ferrari Enzo, just to match the speed of the EV. It does 0-60 in 3.07 sec, an Enzo does 3.4 the Porsche does 3.9
Ferrari 360 Spider - 400Bhp / 3197lb
Porsche Carrera GT - 605Bhp / 3043lb
Wrighspeed X1 - 220Bhp / 1536lb
tsport100 3 years ago
doesnt matter how much HP you have really?
all you need to know is thats its 0-60 in less than 3 secs and gets insane ammount of fuel mileage! as soon as i have enough saved up im opening a EV shop (selling, converting, repairing), people say diesel the future,
Jankenster 3 years ago
so does the electric car use gasoline at all?or what does it use?
94EglVisionTSI 3 years ago
• 3-phase AC induction motor, 236hp at the motor shaft
• 182 ft lbs torque at the motor shaft, from 0 rpm to 6,000 rpm
• 13,300 rpm rev limit
• weight 1,536 lbs
• no clutch, single gear ratio 8.25:1
. 25kw/hr Li-Ion battery pack
tsport100 3 years ago
Too bad the dude in the Atom's going to be dead after he gets hit by a bike that's going 20 mph.
theoldspicestuff 3 years ago
the idiots driving the 360 and carerra gt dont know how to use a clutch, they both barely moved off the line, those two cars do 0-60 in 3.2 which is not slow (dont know what atch is on about - exotic cars are bloody fast 1/4 mile), but the atom is 0-60 2.6 ish, which isnt that greater....
hattybums 3 years ago
Listen, ALL owners of these exotics know a clutch a seriously weak link in a car with 600hp and a replacement is bound to cost them 5 figures easy.
The GREAT thing is the EV doesn't have or need a clutch so that's one flawed automotive part consigned to history.
tsport100 3 years ago
bugatti veyron should race it
BlueGrassGrows 3 years ago
Fuk The Bugatti... So many idiots like them. They suck. V16 Quad turbo... waste of money... By the way. When it comes to the 1/4 mile.... non of the exotics are fast..
atch411 3 years ago 2
its a W16 (two v8's side by side)
by the way...
Jankenster 3 years ago
try an ssc ultimate aero, costs a third of the bugatti but it is more powerful, has a higher top speed and a faster quarter mile time
overflo03 3 years ago
I cant believe the number of idiot posts on this article. The educated know, gasoline powered engines day are numbered. In 15 years most car races wont even use gas. This is proof that most humans cant see change coming unless it slaps them in the face.
valkama 3 years ago 3
perhaps but when is the price going to be such that people can actually afford it?
elilichtenberg 3 years ago
2010 will be a big year for Electric Cars as the Big auto makers will have production of EV sized Li-ion batteries up to speed by then as they launch their 1st EV models. Market competition will ensure prices drop from 2010 on wards.
tsport100 3 years ago
the Porsche is faster on longer distans
5700404 3 years ago