To all INC.. yes there are different versions of the bible .. some say THROUGH JESUS and some say BY JESUS ITS THE SAME THING! One can ONLY make something be it BY or THROUGH.. ONLY if that entity EXISTS!! God could NOT create the WORLD either BY or THROUGH JESUS WITHOUT JESUS existing in some fashion. INC adds to the WORD by implying or infering that JESUS was a THOUGHT or IDEA! You can make something THROUGH someone or something WITHOUT it EXISTING!!
huh? u didnt know exctly what im asking? i ask u "when Jesus died on Cross, we are saved already (saved from eternal death)??" then u respond "OF COURSE!".. so i ask u again, if u are a murderer can u tell to ur self that u are SAVED??? if you believe that we are already saved,why is there a Judgement? and for whom is the Hell??
We are not yet in Paradise.. we are still in the war..
@sekaidemitsumi14 I have to teach you the BASICS of bible study!! GOd is ALL-knowing.. HE knows the PAST.. PRESENT and FUTURE! So HE looked down the corridors of TIME and BASED on what ONLY HE knows..( the REPENTANCE from the HEART of a person), ELECTED before HE created the world. TO have MERCY and GRACE on a chosen FEW! JESUS would be LADEN with ALL of the SIns of thOSE CHOSEN!. We are not to judge GOD if HE wishes to have MERCY on a MURDERER! To be cont
@Brideoflamb PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.. ONLY ONLY GOD knows who is SAVED! Once we BOAST or PROCLAIM that we did this or that and WE AE SAVED.. like INC and most churches do.. WE have placed ourselves on the LEVEL of GOD!! NOT all of us are SAVED.. The JUDGMENT of who was to be SAVED was made and accomplished a long time ago. The REAPPEARANCE of JESUS and the GATHERING in the clouds with HIM of the ELECT or SAVED will be a HUMILIATION ot those LEFT!
@sekaidemitsumi14 Im 40 yr old male Im not affilated with any DENOMINATION This is why INC has a difficulty with BELIEVERS like me there so use to having a FIXED opponent like the CATHOLIC CHURCH MY authority is the BIBLE.. The WORD of GOD So who are you and tell me about what you believe in and why
heheh thank you for the basic Bible Study, but i think your the one who need it most...
like you said, Only God knows who are saved.. thats why He gave the Gospel, for us to Obey this.. to have faith, to Believe in Him.. if you believe that we are saved Bcos we are Chosen, OK.. thats yours..
but still, i believe that Salvation is for those who Believed, have faith in God,Repent and baptized in Jesus' name..
Sorry for my Grammar.. heheh I told you. im not good in English..
@sekaidemitsumi14 Yes but waht dos the WORD Baptize mean?/ Does it man the same thing in EVERY verse in the bible? Baptism is from the GREEK.. to IMMERSE in a fluid.. ie TO wash A WATER baptism in a church is a CEREMONY that was instituted to give PRAISEe and HONOR and GLORIFY the ONE BAPTISM ONE baptism is when JESUS WASHED or CLEANSED or BAPTIZED the SOULS of SIN of those CHOSEN to be of the BODY.. The FAITh thats NECESSARY to be SAVED is the FAITh OF JESUS
Ok its your own Belief.. i dont know who you are.. i will never Judge you, but one there is thing i just want to say.. Be Baptized in Jesus' name.... thanks.. God Bless!
@sekaidemitsumi14 Remember to be BAPTIZED.. to be TRULY baptized is to be part of the BODY of JESUS and have your SINS absolved and your SOUL washed of SIN
Now people ask: Why cant God just say: You are saved and you are not,, The reason is just like a judge in court cant arbitrarily choose who is guilty and must pay a penalty, the same holds true for the ETERNAL judge! Neither the judge nor GOD is above the LAW.. God must adhere to the LAW BOOK.. The BIBLE!! So someone had to PAY for the SINS of those GOD deemed to be BLESSED with MERCY and GRACE! And ONLY GOD MANIFESTED on earth in the FLESH could make that PAYMENT
This is to the guy on here that can be heard making IDIOTIC comments. THROUGH and BY are BOTH terms USED in the bible when referring to JESUS and CREATION. Dont be IGNORANT and make yourself sound like a FOOL! Also, are you the same CLOWN who says.." ASK THE JEWS!!" ?? What a childish and juvenile thing to say!! These are the typical retorts made by people who CANT REFUTE debaters who make a point that CONTRADICTS INC FALSE teachings!
Another verse I would have posed to Jose if i was debating him. Isaiah 42:8 " I am the LORD, that is my NAME": This is GOd speaking . But are not God here and JESUS referred to as LORD? So we are going to address the SON .. a MAN only (according to INC) with the same NAME as The FATHER? YES they are the SAME as this is just one of many examples of JESUS getting the same RESPECT ..just like both are referred to as the FIRST and LAST
hehe.. may sinabi bkong God the Father God the Son at God the Holy Spirit??
at my sinabi bkong 3 Dios un?? kapatid,, gnito ang ibig ko sabihin... For Example.. iKaw.. isang Tao ka diba? My tatay ka db? my kapatid ka diba? at my kaibigan ka dba? ngaun.. kaano ano k ng tatay mo? "ANAK" ka nya.. kaanoano k ng kapatid mo?"KAPATID" k nya.. kanoano k ng kaibigan mo? "KAIBIGAN" ka nya..tma? so.. ANAK,KAPATID at KAIBIGAN ka.. tnong ko sau, 3 persona kaba?? oh ngaun gets muh na?? :)
@sekaidemitsumi14 ibigsabihin itong mat 28:19 ang pinaka matibay na patunay sa Tatlo na ito na iisa pa din? ibig mung sabihin hindi sila trinity but three beings in one God ganon ba yan? may tatlo pa din eh. ibig sabihin nito ang God ay si Hesus din, at yung Holly Spirit ay Si Hesus din paki paliwanag kapatid salamat...
heheh kw po ang magulo eh.. heheh.. nilinaw ko na db? si Jesus ang Ama Anak at Spirito Santo.. kya nga pinabasa ko syu ung Mat 28:19 at icompare sa Acts 2:38.. ung AMA ANAK at Spirito Santo ay "RELATIONSHIP" ng Dios sa atin.
uhm mejo makulit ka din po pla.. heheh kc di ko sinabing 3 Dios.. "Tree beings in One God"??? san muh nakuha yan?? hahah meron b sa bible nyn?? wag ka po gumwa ng sarili mong sagot .. pinliwanag ko na sau.. malabo pag iisip mo kung di mo prin naintindihan...
@sekaidemitsumi14 hahahaha sa tutuo lang nakakalito, kung si Hesus ang Ama, Anak at Espirito, talgang magulo, kc kung siya yung lahat, nung nagkatawang tao siya, siya p rin ang Diyos diba? eh nung time na yun hindi nya alam ang araw ng pag huhukom. so panu nangyari na Diyos siya ngunit hindi niya alam kung kelan ang araw na pinaka mahalaga sa lahat. magulo kapatid pero salamat sa effort mo..
salamat din sayu, pero sabi ko nmn sagutin mo muna yung tinatanong ko sayu..
ung sinasabi mo, un ung sinabi nyang "Walng nkakaalam ng Araw na iyon, kahit mga Anghel sa langit o khit ang Anak ng tao (JEsus)" dba? may pang unwa ka po ba? bkit nya sinabi un? simple.. kc naparoon sya ndi para sabihing sya ang huhusga.. un nga ang purpose ng pagkakatwang tao nya eh.. un din ung sinbi nyng "DArating Ako n prng isang MAgnanakaw" meaning: "Wlang nkakaalam kung kelan nya gagawin" gets?
Ang Father Son at Holy Ghost po ay ndi "NAME" ito po ay "TITLE".. binasa mo ba ung unang Comment ko sau?? kung paanong ikaw ay ANak ng Tatay mo, at KApatid ng Kapatid mo at kaibigan ng kaibigan mo? ibg sabihin b nun 3 Tao ka?? ito pa.. para mas madali mo maintindhan ha.. wag ka ksi paliko liko.. example ulit ha.. kunwari ikaw.. my trbaho ka.. Teacher ka, Doctor ka, Politiko ka.. pero iisang tao ka lng.. pero 3 ang trabaho mo.. ibg sabihin ba nun 3 Persona ka? heheheh...
Mayroon lamang IISANG DIOS.. ndi xa 3 persona.. at wag muh din po isipin na kampi ako sa Trinitarian na nsa Video.. kc parehong mali ung mga nagdedebate dyn... iisa lng ang Dios.. ndi sya 3 being.. TITLES po ang twag dun...
@sekaidemitsumi14 Salamat kapatid at alam ku ang layunin mo.. ang nakagulo lng lalo yung sabi mo na Yung Ama, Anak at Espirito Santo ay Iisa lang, e nung nanalangin si Hesus sinu yung ama kung isa lang yan? nung nag sabi si Hesus na "Diyos ko Diyos ko bakit mo aku pinabayaan?" sinu si Hesus at siny yung tinatawag niya na Diyos ko.
John 17:1-3 yang nagdasal sya sa Ama.. alm mo kung bakit? bilang Tao kelngan nya magdasal.. bkit?? un po ay Nasusulat kapatid.. bsahin mo sa PSA.65:2.. nbsa muh?
kung nbasa muh ang Buong NT, mbabsa muh dun na si Jesus ay naparito dn pra sundin ang mga kautusan db? at dhil si Jesus ay nsa "Flesh (LAMAN)".. kelangn nya mnalangin.. oh nagets muh ba? ehheeheh.. saliksikin muh muna kc ang ksulatan :)
yung sumigaw sya ng Dios ko Dios ko Bkit mo ako pinabayaan?
Una.. my tnong ako sayu.. sagutin mo ha.. "PINABAYAAN NGA BA SYA NG DIOS"??
ang sgot dyn : HINDI.. bkit? kc khit si satanas alam na ndi pinabayaan ng Dios si Jesus.. Bsahin mo sa Mat 4:6-8.. yn ang sgot,, ngaun.. anuh yung pag sigaw ni Jesus? Yun po ay kasama sa PROPESIYA n dranasin ni Cristo,Bsahin muh po sa PSA.22:1..yan pag nbasa muh sana maintindihan muh.. :) Pano? sinagot ko..ikw nmn sumagot sa Mat28:19 at Act2:38..
@sekaidemitsumi14 :) pasensya na po kayo kapatid, talgang ang labo, una hindi pweding ang Diyos at Tao and at the same time Diyos sya.. dahil ang diyos ay walang pasimula at walang hanganan.. si Pinanganak at saka ayon sa inyo namatay.. --- at si Hesus mismo sa Bibliya at tinatawag niya ang sarili nya na tao, at kailanman hindi niya tinawag ang sarili nya na Diyos. Pasensya kana kapatid pero hindi ko talga matangap ang turo mo... salamat sa effort mo kapatid.. Naway gabayan tayo ng Diyos
malabo tlga un sa mga taong binulag ni satanas ang pag iisip .. tsk tsk.. mabuting mgsaliksik ka pa po.. totoo ung mga sinabi mo.. pero npaliwanag ko na yn sau .. bkit di sya nagpakilala? simple.. ksama un sa sinabi nyang "NARITO AKO HNDI PARA PAGLINGKURAN".. hndi sya naroon pra paglingkuran sya.. naron sya pra magpaka baba.. at ipakilala ang Mabuting balita.. ang Evangelio sa Kaligtasan.. at hndi para ipagyabang n sya ang Dios..
hndi nya tlga sinabi ng derkta n sya ang Dios.. pero tnong ko syo my sinabi a syng "HNDI AKO ANG DIOS"??
kung mababsa mo po.. sabi ni Thomas s knya "PANGINOON KO AT DIOS KO".. ngaun.. kung tlagang hndi sya ang Dios, Dapat sinabi nya ky tomas na "NAGKAKAMALI KA".. Tama?? kung babsahin muh sa Rev. ng mita ni Juan ang ang Anghel.. Sinamba nya ito.. at anong sabi ng ANghel? "ANG DIOS ANG SMBAHIN MO"..
nakuha mo po? my ipapanuod ako sayu n mga video, mgndan panuorin mo ha..
tungkol sa Ang Dios ay wlang Pasimula at walng hanggan.. Kapatid.. payo ko sayu bago ka gumamt ng mga salitang mula sa Biblia, isipan muh muna ung mga bgay at kung saan patungkol iyon.. yung wlang pasimula at wlang hanggan po "Wla syang pasimula dhil sya ang Lumikha, at wlang hanggan.. dhil hndi sya kyln man mwwla".. un nga ang dhilan kung bkit kylngan mgkatawang tao eh.. dhil sa Ang Dios ay spirito kya ndi sya mpapatay..kelangn nyna mgkatwang tao pra maialay sya at mapatay..
kapatid nalilito kba kung panong ang Dios habng nsa Langit ay nsa Lupa pa sya?? Dpat bang magtaka? imposible ba sa knya un? n Khit sya ang Ama, nrito pa sya sa Lupa bilang Tao?? heheh... Bsahin mo ung JER. 23:23-24.. sana saliksikin muh lhat ng nsususlat.. ung ikw mismo ung babsa kesa nakikinig ka lng sa iba.. :) God bless Us!! salamat...
@sekaidemitsumi14 In Math 29:19 INC ASSUMES baptizing is referring to the WATER baptism CEREMONY when in fact its speaking of the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM or WASHINg by JESUS of the SINS of the SOULs of those that were HIS BODY. The ELECT are WASHED or CLEANSED of SIN By the BLOOD of jESUS Then that SPIRITIA:L baptism is reaffimed in Marl 1:6 when JOHn says HE has baptized with WATER but JESUS will BAPTIZE with the HOLY SPIRIT later!!
Yup.. pero wla nmn ako question dun sa Water Baptism eh.. kc un nmn tlga ang Tama.. nga pla.. Di ako Catholic kya di un ang paniniwala ko ha.. ang Question ko d2.. sa Mat 28:19 at Acts 2:38.. kaninong Name dpt ibaptize ang isang tao? Father Son at Holy Spirit ba? o in Jesus' Name? apg nlaman mo ang sagot,, yan ang dahila kung bkit iisa ang AMA ANaK at Spirito Santo :)
uhm...then how you understand my earlier post?? heheh.. uhm what im talking about is... the baptism in water is RIGHT.. according to the Baptism who was taught by Jesus.... uhm.. hahah!!! Nose bleed~ uhm.. maybe its better to watch the video about what im sying.. Baptism In Jesus' Name - A Fresh Look [HD] and Baptism in Jesus Name - Truth About Salvation
@sekaidemitsumi14 NO you need to understand that NOT EVERY time you see the word BAPTISM in the bible is it referring to a WATER baptism CEREMONY! Thtas why John the baptist said that he did a WATER baptism but JESUS would WASH or CLEANSE or BAPTIZE the SOULS of HIS BODY when HE WASHED them with HIS BLOOD A WATER baptism is a CEREMONY or RITE honoring the REDEEMER in JESUS. No water baptism EVER washjed away SIN from the SOUL> ONLY JESUS did that!!
i Understand,Like Paul said,dat many of us were baptized in the Death of Jesus..uhm but what im talking about Mat28:19 and Act2:38 is about the Deity of Jesus,dat the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost is JESUS..uhm..about the Water baptism.. the cermony of wter bptism a must.. why? like Jesus said in John 3:5 "Except a man be born of WATER and of the SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" so,how can you say that u wer baptized if u r not bpatized in the water frst?
@sekaidemitsumi14 What INC doesnt teach you is that WATER in the Bible is SYMBOLIC of the WORD.. One is WASHED by the WORD!! Who is the WORD?? JESUS!! So now read thaty verse again.. "EXCEPT a man be born of JESUS and of the SPIRIT
.. Your WATER baptism CEREMONY is just that a CEREMONY. the problem with INC as they teach you SURFACE meanings.. JESUS did ALL of the WORK REQUIRED to pay for the SINS of HIS body. WE cant AID in our SALVATION
sorry but i am not a member of INC.. and i am not also follow their Doctrine or their belief..uhm i know also tht Jesus is the Word (Jn.1:1-14) my question is..are u telling me tht the Water bptism cermony is not Ryt? and what r ur proofs that the word "WATER" in John 3:5 is reffering to the WORD(Jesus)?
@sekaidemitsumi14 We are WASHED by the WORD!! John 1:1 the WORD becoming flesh is JESUS WATER is SYMBOLIC of WASHING. this is why WATER is used in baptism CEREMONY.. Just as WATER washed the FLESH of FILTH.. the BLOOD of JESUS wshed SIN from the SOUL!! Let me give you this example. Suppose there is a baptism in a church and the WATER supply is cut off.. That person dies!! Do you think that his MISSING a WATER baptism CEREMONY will prevent God from SAVING him?
@sekaidemitsumi14 You are missing the point or are just kidding here. BAPTISM is from the GREEK meaning to "IMMERSE in a fluid.. ie "TO WASH". A WATER baptism is a TYPE of BAPTISM.. its a CEREMONY ONLY What most churches do is FOCUS on the ACT or work of a WATER baptism INSTEAD of the ONE BAPTISM by JESUS. they want to BOAST and be PROUD and say to God ''LOOK at me and what i did! BUT ALL GLORY and PRAISE is to be to GOD.. WE ARE NOTHING compared to what JESUS did!!
@sekaidemitsumi14 Im glad you used the term CEREMONY when referiing to baptism. No matter how lovely and holy it may be.. ist still a CEREMONY or work we do. No WORK we do will aid in our SALVATION. God didnt look down the corridors of time and make a point of seeing whether we're WATER baptized in a church CEREMONY or not When the bible says.. REPENT ye and be BAPTIZED and you will be blessed with the HOLY SPIRIT,, it WASNT alluding to a WATER baptism but the ONE BAPTISM on the CROSS!
heheh did i say that once you baptized, u wer alredy SAved? as James2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.. i agree with that..
about the Cermony.. you mean that the Water baptism ceremony is not a Must? remember how the Apostles and John thebaptst wer Bptising in the River of Jordan.. even Jesus wer Baptized in water also.. ryt? water baptism is 1 step to Salvation
@sekaidemitsumi14 WATER baptism as a REQUIREMENT to be saved, has been ingrained in you. You didnt respond to my question. You think a person who dies the day of his WATER baptism CEREMONT cant be saved?? JESUS was WATER baptized becasue as a high priest it was a REQUIREMENT. Did the WATER baptism have any effect on JESUS who was SINLESS?? ALL GLORY goes to JESUS . HE WASHED SIN. ! WATER baptism is WORK we do to HONOR JESUS NEXT: WORKS and tALL the verses
Obviously.. Jesus Never sinned!! wat i mean is.. "Jesus Gives us an EXAMPLE how to do or to Obey the Cermony in Baptism.." this Cermony is a sign that u wer Diong the Baptsm that Jesus wants us to do...
Can i ask you..?? Are you Baptized in Water and in Spirit? in Jesus' Name?
@sekaidemitsumi14 CEREMONY is NoT a SIGN of anything!! One can do CEREMONIES after CEREMONIES and has NO BEARING on whether one is SAVED or NOT! There is NOTHING wrong with doing a CEREMONY to HONOR and GLORY to JESUS on what he did by spilling HIS BLOOD But when one ADDS to the BIBle that this CEREMONY is a REQUIREMENT to be of the BODY of JESUS or in some SIN is WASHED is the BLASPHEMY!! THE ONE BAPTISM thats NECESSSARY to be SAVED is JESUS ON the CROSS
so.. you mean... that the water Bptism is not a must?! and when jesus Died on Cross, we already saved???? so how about the unbelievers? the muslims and the jews?
@sekaidemitsumi14 OF COURSE!! JESUS is the REDEEMER! basic Bible study 101 JESUS was laden with ALL of the dirty ROTTEN SINS of those GOD ELECTED to be BLESSED with MERCY and GRACE! God is ALL-knowing so that HE ONLY could look down the corridors otf time and ELECT a CHOSEN few who would have MERCY on. AS far as Muslims ONLY God make that those decisions. WE are not to be concernd with how God makes HIS choices. We mst come HUMBLY before GODl
@Brideoflamb i know that u know also, that ONLY the believers and followers of Jesus are saved... why? can u tell to ur self that "I am Saved from eternal death bcos Jesus pays for my sins" at the same time, you are a Murderer? John 3:16-18 ses "...And WHOSEOVER BELIEVETH on him should NOT PERISH but have evrlsting life.. but he that believeth not is condemned already,".. so.. if you are not in God, are you already saved?
@sekaidemitsumi14 I dont know what exactly you are asking here?? If one is SAVED this means JESUS was laden with ALL of your DIRTY rotten sins! ONLY god is the judge of that... BELIEVING isa RESULT of GOD opening your SPIRITUAL eyes and ears. Dont mixup any ACTION or work we do with what GOD does!! The difference in me and the church members esp INC is that they GUARANTEE that SALVATION is ONLY to those in this PArticular CONGREGATION.
@sekaidemitsumi14 You see when you infer or imply that WATER baptism is a MUST you are saying it AIDS or is a COMPONENT to one being ELECTED to being SAVED or NOT What you have NEVER been taught is that the ONLY BAPTISM thats A RQUIREMENT to be saved is the ONE BAPTISM by JESUS ask any church member : were you BAPTIZED? they proudly reply" OH YES in mu church BUT THATS NOT THE ONE BAPTISM the Bible is referring to like REPENT ye and be BAPTIZED
Una.. ndi dapt tawagin na PERSONA ang Dios..bkit?? kc sya ay Spirito (Jn.4:24)
gnun din ang Holy Spirit.. dhil ang tnatwag na HOLY SPIRIT ay ang Dios mismo.. pano?? Psa.99:9 "God is HOLY" at Jn. 4:24 "God is Spirit".. so... Sino ung HOLY SPIRIT???? sa FAther SON at Holy Ghost po.. ang SON lng ang pede twaging PERSONA.. ito ay ng mgkatawang Tao sya.. sa HEb.1:3 nga lng tinwag na person ang Dios "express image of his person(Jesus)"..
I'm no christian, but common sense says that if Jesus had to be told the message by the Father, then they're not so equal anymore. Plus, I don't get how they're all so equal, when 90% of the debate, the Holy Spirit was barely mentioned. Trinity = flawed. It makes sense to believe that 3 different beings = 3 different beings. God has no beginning and no end, so the whole situation of Christ being born, died, and resurrected contradicts the whole concept of God's stature.
@iIove2hateu Ill explain this to you as you NEVER been taught before.. WAGES of SIn is DEATH.. the SECOND death or ETERNAL separation from GOD.. Now those nOT SAVED will pay the PENALTY of theri SINS by being ETERNALLY separated from GOD. But the CHOSEN or ELECT cant pay their PENALTY! And God is NOT above the LAW in that HE could not just say YOu are SAVED and you are NOT. So God made FLESH as JESUS made that PAYMENT. ONLY an ETERNAl being coudl do that!!
Inaanyayahan po namin kayong dumalo sa Grand Evangelical Mission ng Iglesia Ni Cristo sa darating na Feb.28, 2012 sa Quirino Grandstand. 5pm ang start ng program pero agahan na rin ang pagpunta dahil maraming dadalo mula pa sa iba't-ibang lokal.
@babyfaceassasin mis u na, hahahaha kc si @willybq eh pagbabasahin pa ko ng sangkatutak nyang post kaysa sumagot sa simpleng tanung ko eh,atleast ikaw kahit baby ka pa eh sumasagot agad noon,bc ka pa?
@babyfaceassasin asan ka na? mis u na sister hahahaha bc ka pa ba? dami bang mis gay ngayon sa mga fiesta nyo? patawanan mo na ako ulit, masyadong seryoso yung mga ka persona mo dito eh
babyfaceassasin asan ka na? mis u na sister hahahaha bc ka pa ba? dami bang mis gay ngayon sa mga fiesta nyo? patawanan mo na ako ulit, masyadong seryoso yung mga ka persona mo dito eh
SO according to the WIZARD JOSE, The FATHER.. or CREATOR of the JEWS who wanted to kill JESUS was the DEVIL!! RIDICULOUS!!! Notice how Jose ALWAYS makes a joke about something when he is cornored!! Lets make a childish joke about the egg prop. cause its SYMBOLIC of 3-in-one!! Lets make a RIDICULOUS statement.. ASk the JEWS!! Much like the IDIOT who makes the same parrot comment from the audience!!
“If the world hates you...it hated Me before it hated you....I CHOSE you out of the world, therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
“If the world hates you...it hated Me before it hated you....I CHOSE you out of the world, therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
"..I CHOSE you ...therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
PERSECUTORS validate that INC are chosen. PERSECUTORS DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Jesus. PERSECUTORS DO NOT KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THE FATHER AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
@brideofscam1 If you'd done your research you would know that Irenaeus was quoting from a very early version of Acts which read "Church of the Lord" and not "Church of God." Irenaeus was also extremely adamant about teaching the true teachings passed down by the apostles and in fact that just happens to be the topic under discussion when he makes this quotation.
His quotation shows us that very early manuscripts did indeed indeed show "Church of the Lord" at Acts 20:28.
@brideofscam1 The original manuscripts of the books written in the Bible are GONE. The earliest manuscripts are copies centuries after they were originally written. Some manuscripts read "church of God" while many others read "church of the Lord."
The 1st witness who can testify what the early manuscripts did say is Irenaeus who wrote Against Heresies around 180-185 A.D. The earliest known version of this verse. He writes: "..the Church of the Lord (Book III, 14).
@brideofscam1 Explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
Explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
STOP purporting claims when you cannot provide evidence to support them.
@kaleiapuno WE dont determine by what we as finite humans THINK or PERCEIVE what the Bible should say.. THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE says CHURCH of GOD Th ONLY reason INC cites a HERETIC version of the BIble in LAMSA is because it says CHUrch of CHRIST. Whereas LAMSA bible is an ENGLISH TRANSLATIOn.. NOT of the ORIGINAL bible.. BUt of the PESHITTA BIBle REWRITE. from ARAMAIC I can rewrite the Bible into Spanish. but its WORTHLESS if WRONG!!
@brideofscam1 Then explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
@brideoflamb1 Acts 20:28 is a passage which is disingenuously promotes by Jesus -is-God theorists like @brideofscam1 to try and support your Jesus-is-God doctrine. It is a well known fact that important early manuscripts do not read "Church of God" but instead have "Church of the Lord." @brideofscam1 obviously ignores this truth.
One of the things i learned in debating class in college is how to~READ an opponent through their responses..~ When JOSE repeats the question over and over that the COGIC asks.. JESUS is the FATHER of the JEWS.. he fully well heard it the first time. HE is STALLING as he knows he is beaten on this point as God indeed is the FATHER of all of us... JESUS calling the DEVIL their FATHER is nOT LITERAL l but symbolic of their ACTIONS
@kaleiapuno OH I know I cant debate.. So come on cam BIGMOUTH and teach me the Bible.. lol lol Of course you wont. You just CONFIMED and AIDED my ARGUMENT.. CHURCH of GOD and CHURCH of the LORD are the EARLIEST manuscripts.. DUH.. How stupid can u be?? That means CHURCH of GOD is the CORRECT version.. NOT LAMSA!!
This is very true. The INC ministers like using vesions of the Bible theat support their false bvelief that Jesus is only a man and just a created being. They also love using the Moffat version for their misleading doctrine on Isaiah 43 about this ravenous bird from the east, bamboozling people into believing that is Felix Manalo. If the INC members only read the Bible for themselves, a lot of them will leave the church like a plague.
@willybq AMEN.. yes the other SAVIOUR for INC is MOFFATT.. with his FAR EAST hogwash... One of their favorite themes is.. :``How can you trust any other church when they were NOT inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT?? Has any INC member viewed the life of LAMSA?? I doubt it .... like you said.. they dont read the bible .. they would see LAMSA was certainly NOT inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT. INC is FULL of DOUBLETALK!!
I would love to hear how you explain in detail how God (a spirit - Jn 4:24) has blood according to other versions of the Holy Scripture of Acts 20:28.
I suppose you also believe it was God who died on the cross. Hahaha
You have no authority @brideofscam1 whatsoever. Where is your sure word of prophecy?
Jose is a MASTER of deception!! of course GOD is the FATHER of the JEWS.. The JEWS had no reason to want JESUS killed based on JESUS calling God HIS FATHER!! Look at the NATION of the JEWS today! They dont RECOGNIZE JESUS at ALL!! THEY REJECTED JESUS then and they REJECT HIM NOW!!! the JEWS then were INSULTED to think that JESUS was placing HIMSELF on the same LEVEL as GOD!!
@brideoflamb1. I agree with you 100 percent. The only reason why Ventilacion seemed to have won in this one sided debate is because the balck guy does not really the Bible, and he does not know how to ask questions. I have seen how Mr. Ventilacion and other INC ministers debate. They are expert on insulting their opponents when they are losing. They can even become violent at times, and I have seen it with my own eyes.
@DREEM80 -I did not say it was the ministers that became violent. It was the INC members watching the debates that I witnessed back in the 80s in different parts of Pampanga. They would boo and shout at the opponents and would not give them a chance to be to talk etc. There were cases when the opponents were beaten up later on abvously by INC members.
@willybq YES listen to the INC fan who makes commnts on this video.... ÀSK THE JEWS!!`....What a childish and RIDICULOUS statemnet that can only come from someone who has NOTHING concrete to say about what is being discussed
@willybq Thank you!! Jose is well-trained debater... he knows how to PLAY the crowd.... he knows how to subtlely demean and belittle his opponent.. JOSE knows full well he must resort to making jokes about the egg analogy as its a good prop to symbolize the THREE.. in ONE and WHOLENESS of GOD!! TRUE as to the COGIC rep.. focused on LAMSA and how the LAMSA is merely a TRANSLATION of REWRITE of the Bible into Aramaic,, while the ORIGINAL is Church of GOD
@kaleiapuno WE dont question what GOD says.. Acts 20:28 of the ORIGINAL bible was NOT WRITTEN in Aramaic.. look it up!! Its says CHURCH of GOD!! In essence what INC has MISLED you to believe that LAMSA is the MOST TRUSTWORTHY understanding of ACts 20;28 because it says Church of Christ?? ... L:EARN.. Lamsa is an ENGLISH translation of the PESHITTA REWRITE of the BIBle into ARAMAIC.. or in other words... a VERSION or PARAPHASE!!!
King ako ang tinutukoy mo, then great. We can discuss the treur nature of our Lord Jesus here. Ano ang gusto mo pang malaman tungkol sa akin. Ang gusto kong malaman tungkol sa iyo at kung ano ang tunay na pangalan mo at kung taga-saan ka at kung ano ang trabaho mo. I will be waiting for your reply. Willy Q
If any member of the Iglesis ni Cristo wants to know more about the true nature of Christ, you are free to email me at wbquiambao@msn.com. I am willing to show you from the Bible and not other book that our Lord Jesus is God in nature just like you and me are human in
nature. There is no argument about the Father being God because that is very clearly written in the Bible.
@kaleiapuno Miss or Mr. Puno. -Eto po ang napakalinaw na sagot sa inyong katanungan mula po mismo sa Biblia.. Please read John 1:18 "No one has seen God at any time. The only begoten Son, who is in the bossom of the Father, he has declared him". Ang anak na nasa sinapupunan nang Ama ang nagpakilala sa Ama magmula nang una. Si Moises nakita ang Dios para lang ang mukha niya. Please read Exodus 33:18-23). Si Hesus ang nagpakita sa kanya bago siya nagkatawang tao kaya ganyan ang sabi sa John 1:18.
To tll members of the INC. I encourage you to invest in purchasing your own Bible and start reading so you will know the truth. When you have your Bible, please read the following verses that clearly prove our Lord Jesus is in nature God like the Father. Here they are: Titus 2:13, Romans 9:5, John 1:1-3, Colossians 1: 15-17, I John 5:20, Revelations 1:8, John 20:28, Isaiah 9:6.
@kaleiapuno -Mr. Puno, talagang pa\borito ninyo ang John 17:3 ano? Pero ayaw ninyo namang tanggapin ang mga verses na nabanggit ko sa unang post ko. Si Cristo po ay tinatawag na tunay na Dios din. Eto po ang nakasulat sa Titus 2:13-"Looking for the blessed hope and and glorious appearing of our GREAT GOD and savior Jesus Christ". Great God pa nga ang tawag sa kanya e. Please read also Romans 9:5, I John 5:20 na kung saan tinawag ding "TRUE GOD" si Cristo. Eto pa po: Hebrew 1:8, John 1:1-3-More-
Mr. Puno. Here are some more verses for you to read if you have an open mind. In Revelation 1:8-Jesus introduced himself at the “Almighty who is to come”. I am sure you will agree with me that it is the Son who is returning and not the Father, right? In John 20:28, Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God”, and Jesus did not rebuke or correct him which means he agreed with him. In Matthew28:9 Jesus’ disciples worshipped him, and Jesus accepted that worship. Why? Because HE IS GOD!!!!. More-
Mr. Puno. Regarding your church' favorite verse John 17:3. Here is the simple answer in Philippians 2: 6-8 where it says that Jesus took of his divinity and became a man. If he was already a man, he did not have to take anything off, right? So because he was found by people as a man, do you think he would introduce himself the one true God, or would he introduce his Father who was in heaven as the true God? Of course, he would not introduce himself as God because he was A MAN AT THAT TIME!!!.
The black guy is very correct when he said the INC members don't read the Bible and only their ministers read the Bible. I know because I was born and raised in the INC in Angeles City, Pampanga. That's the reason why I left the INC becuause I started the reading the Bible on my own. The guy who is debating Jun Ventilacion does not know his Bible either. There are myriads of Bible verses in the Bible that clearly prove Jesus is God.
@willybq AMEN SIR My wife is a devoted choir mmebr since childhood.. She NEVER owned a BIBle until I MARRIED her and now have one in the house.. YET YET she STILL doesnt read it.. doesnt have that motivation to read it.. She was shocked to hear on the first page in GENESIS that Man was made on OUR IMAGE.. Ask any INC member who the OUR is referring to? You will get a puzzled look...
@kaleiapuno REALLY?? and what about the supposed 1900 yrs of the apostasy?? You actually believe the GARBAGE INC feeds you that there was not ONE person that could UNDERSTAND the WORD of GOD and relate that to the common folk of the day?? MY GOSH.. you think God is so LIMITED on what HE can do..lol
@willybq YES he should also have emphasized how INC only uses LAMSA for one VERSE.. Acts 20:28.. If I had debated him I would have said that LAMSA ia an ENGLISH translation of the PESHITTA REWRITE of the ORIGINAL bible. The ORIGINAL GREEK says CHURCH of GOD So right from get go INC is a FALSE church!!
@willybq Amen brother!! Please if you have the time.. Post your comments on the ohter debate that was uploaded.. Its INC vs the CATHOICS.. there are 2 of them.. one with KEATING and one more with someone I am not familiar with. The INC posters on there are so arrogant and juvenile.. God bless
anyway! ang ginawa pong batayan ng kapatid na felix manalo ay ang biblia,at bukod po dyan,ay wala po syang ipinangaral na hindi sa biblia,bagkus lahat po yan nasa biblia,dahilan kung bakit sinasampalatayanan ng iglesia ni cristo na sugo sya.now you know try to be a member of the iglesia ni cristo now.
I understand that there are always haters in this world. Anyway, believe what you believe but i know that i'm in the right way to salvation. don't hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mga mahal na kapatid! idinadaan lang po yan sa maganda at mabuting usapan,tingnan nyo sila macky703 at wertgfdc,tahimik na nagdidiskusyon,walang mga alitan at kantyawan
@markalbertmanly pasencya na tol, di ko mapigilan minsan ang matawa at mangantyaw pag pinagmumura ka ng isang taong sinungaling at naniniwala sa alien na dating INC daw sya, pacensya na po, peace
@aliens301 ikamusta mo ko sa mga alien na friend mo ha daniel, hahahahah kaya ka pala ganyan magsalita eh, sinapian ka ba ng mga aliens? anung planet daw sila? isasama ka ba nila sa bahay nila sa Nagpuyo sa kahoy? anu space ship nila? yung bunga ng puno? ilang alien na nakita mo at naka usap? meron ba kahit isa? hahahaha alam ba ng nanay mo mga pinaggagawa mo at pinagsasabi sa net? hindi pa huli ang lahat, kausapin mo nanay mo, may gamot pa ata dyan malay mo, hahahahha
@aliens301 may sayad ka ba sa pag iisip daniel? anu trabaho mo Aliens/Paranormal Investigator? at saan ka nagtatrabaho daniel? sa Aliens Company? alam ba ng nanay mo yan dong? tapos naniniwala ka sa Dios? tinuro ba ng Dios na may NAGPUYO SA KAHOY na yun ang bahay ng mga alien? sows, may mental ba dyan sa Cebu? at pinapayagan ka nilang mag net? isumbong mo nalang ako sa mga aliens kaysa sa mga muslim, kc mababait mga naging tropa kong muslim eh, mababait din ba mga aliens? hahahahah
Taong naniniwala sa Alien:talagang hinid mo kaya mag debate sa mga muslim...
Leon na hindi naniniwala sa Alien: cno nagsabi sayo na hindi ko kaya? sabi ni baby? o sabi ni E.T? o baka sabi sa sayo ni Kokey? hahahaha hindi ako minura ng mga muslim bakit ako magsasalita against sa kanila? at hindi ako natatakot sa kanila? bakit? masasama ba mga muslim? may galit ba muslim sa INC? sabihin mo lang at papaka usap kita sa mga muslim kong kakilala d2 sa youtube? gusto mo?
WALANG NAKAKA ALAM KUNG KAILAN ANG KATAPUSAN NG MUNDO . PERO SAKA SAKALI MANG END OF THE WORLD NA. KARAMIHAN FILIPINO CITIZEN NASA LANGIT . SILA LANG DAW MAIILILIGTAS.
JUAN 17:1-26, -mateo 16:18 efeso 5;21-33, colosas 1:18 1timoteo 3:14-16 roma 16:16 -MAGANDANG BALITA gawa 20:28 -lamsa version.
JOHN 20:17 ewan ko nalang kung hind pa kayo MALIWANAGAN.
kung DIOS si CRISTO at kung sya ang may lalang ng lahat ng bagay edi sana nung namatay sya ng 3days edi sana PATAY din lahat ng nilalang nya ng 3days dn! MAY NABASA BA KAYO SA BIBLIA NON??? HA???? kc patay ang DIOS EH! pero ano po nakasulat sa biblia? binuhay syang muli ng PANGINOONG DIOS.
TheLeonguerrero005< natataranta ka na eh, alam mo sinungaling ka! huli ka no, sabi mo INC ka, san ka ngayon lulugar? eh ilang araw lang INC ka tapos wala naman ngayon,
productionLioneDea: Pano hindi siya magsinungaling eh ang turo ni manalo sa miyembro nya ang dios marunong magsinungaling, kaya magsinungaling rin sya, aral nila yan...
w w w. thehistoryspeaks.weebly. com <-- see this. about the history of Bible.para sa mga ndi marunong mag observe oh... Wag kayong paloko sa Diablo.
manginginom, sugarol, babaero, mapag mura, mapang lait ng kapwa, at madami pa.
Merong mga katoliko, mga protestante, mga INC na ganyan .. sa tingin ba nyo ay maliligtas ang mga ganyang tao? Pa simba simba pa, wala din namang natutunan.
Marunong ba magbasa itong anti-INC na to? Basahin mo nga kung IGLESIA NG DIOS o CHURCH OF GOD ba ang nakalagay dyan? Kung hindi ka marunong magbasa umamin ka. di yan CHURCH OF GOD!
@RicciHernandez823 as a matter of fact Sis. Rosita Trillanes came back to the church and died as Deaconess. here's a blog of one of the inc defenders in the net answering that accusation on Bro. Felix.
hahaha tolits sumama ka sa INC na isang CULTO? HAHAHA MAHIRAP SUMAMA TAYO SA MGA RAPIST NG ASAWA NG PASTOR..ANG FOUNDER NILA SI FELIX MANALO ISANG RAPIST NI ALING ROSITA TRILLANES...HUHUHUHU AYAW NAMIN PUMUNTA SA IMPEYERNO PARA MAKIPAGKITA KAY FELIX MANALO NA KATABI NGAYON NI luciper AT LEO ECHEGARAY... ALAM NA NATIN NA NAGSAMA NA NGAYON SI LEO ECHEGARAY ANG FELIX MANALO..NA MGA RAPIST SILA ANG RIGHT HAND NI LUCIPER NGAYON at DITO SA EARTH SI VINTELANCION, PARBA AT MACKY703.
manood na lang po kayo ng 'Ang Pagbubunyag" sa Net25 tapos isulat niyo mga talata sa Bible na binigay at kayo na magsuri. Every tuesday 10pm yata yun. Meron din sa Gem TV.
@babyfaceassassin21 INC NI felix LANG ANG KINAKAYA-KAYA MO,SABAGAY KUNG WALA NAMANG MGA PARING KATOLIKO AY HINDI RIN NAGING PASTOR SI felix NG IGLESIANG TATAG NYA.
ALAM NAMAN NATIN NA PAREHO KAYONG MAY ARAL NA LIKO.
@babyfaceassassin21 INC NI felix LANG ANG KINAKAYA-KAYA MO,SABAGAY KUNG WALA NAMANG MGA PARING KATOLIKO AY HINDI RIN NAGING PASTOR SI felix NG IGLESIANG TATAG NYA.
ALAM NAMAN NATIN NA PAREHO KAYONG MAY ARAL NA LIKO.
To all INC.. yes there are different versions of the bible .. some say THROUGH JESUS and some say BY JESUS ITS THE SAME THING! One can ONLY make something be it BY or THROUGH.. ONLY if that entity EXISTS!! God could NOT create the WORLD either BY or THROUGH JESUS WITHOUT JESUS existing in some fashion. INC adds to the WORD by implying or infering that JESUS was a THOUGHT or IDEA! You can make something THROUGH someone or something WITHOUT it EXISTING!!
Brideoflamb 2 days ago
@Brideoflamb
huh? u didnt know exctly what im asking? i ask u "when Jesus died on Cross, we are saved already (saved from eternal death)??" then u respond "OF COURSE!".. so i ask u again, if u are a murderer can u tell to ur self that u are SAVED??? if you believe that we are already saved,why is there a Judgement? and for whom is the Hell??
We are not yet in Paradise.. we are still in the war..
sekaidemitsumi14 2 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 I have to teach you the BASICS of bible study!! GOd is ALL-knowing.. HE knows the PAST.. PRESENT and FUTURE! So HE looked down the corridors of TIME and BASED on what ONLY HE knows..( the REPENTANCE from the HEART of a person), ELECTED before HE created the world. TO have MERCY and GRACE on a chosen FEW! JESUS would be LADEN with ALL of the SIns of thOSE CHOSEN!. We are not to judge GOD if HE wishes to have MERCY on a MURDERER! To be cont
Brideoflamb 2 days ago
@Brideoflamb PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.. ONLY ONLY GOD knows who is SAVED! Once we BOAST or PROCLAIM that we did this or that and WE AE SAVED.. like INC and most churches do.. WE have placed ourselves on the LEVEL of GOD!! NOT all of us are SAVED.. The JUDGMENT of who was to be SAVED was made and accomplished a long time ago. The REAPPEARANCE of JESUS and the GATHERING in the clouds with HIM of the ELECT or SAVED will be a HUMILIATION ot those LEFT!
Brideoflamb 2 days ago
@Brideoflamb
uhm.. may i know how Old are you? are you a Boy or Girl? where you from? and what Church are you?
thanks.. God Bless
sekaidemitsumi14 1 day ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Im 40 yr old male Im not affilated with any DENOMINATION This is why INC has a difficulty with BELIEVERS like me there so use to having a FIXED opponent like the CATHOLIC CHURCH MY authority is the BIBLE.. The WORD of GOD So who are you and tell me about what you believe in and why
Brideoflamb 1 day ago
@Brideoflamb
heheh thank you for the basic Bible Study, but i think your the one who need it most...
like you said, Only God knows who are saved.. thats why He gave the Gospel, for us to Obey this.. to have faith, to Believe in Him.. if you believe that we are saved Bcos we are Chosen, OK.. thats yours..
but still, i believe that Salvation is for those who Believed, have faith in God,Repent and baptized in Jesus' name..
Sorry for my Grammar.. heheh I told you. im not good in English..
sekaidemitsumi14 1 day ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Yes but waht dos the WORD Baptize mean?/ Does it man the same thing in EVERY verse in the bible? Baptism is from the GREEK.. to IMMERSE in a fluid.. ie TO wash A WATER baptism in a church is a CEREMONY that was instituted to give PRAISEe and HONOR and GLORIFY the ONE BAPTISM ONE baptism is when JESUS WASHED or CLEANSED or BAPTIZED the SOULS of SIN of those CHOSEN to be of the BODY.. The FAITh thats NECESSARY to be SAVED is the FAITh OF JESUS
Brideoflamb 1 day ago
Ok its your own Belief.. i dont know who you are.. i will never Judge you, but one there is thing i just want to say.. Be Baptized in Jesus' name.... thanks.. God Bless!
sekaidemitsumi14 3 hours ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Remember to be BAPTIZED.. to be TRULY baptized is to be part of the BODY of JESUS and have your SINS absolved and your SOUL washed of SIN
Brideoflamb 3 hours ago
Now people ask: Why cant God just say: You are saved and you are not,, The reason is just like a judge in court cant arbitrarily choose who is guilty and must pay a penalty, the same holds true for the ETERNAL judge! Neither the judge nor GOD is above the LAW.. God must adhere to the LAW BOOK.. The BIBLE!! So someone had to PAY for the SINS of those GOD deemed to be BLESSED with MERCY and GRACE! And ONLY GOD MANIFESTED on earth in the FLESH could make that PAYMENT
Brideoflamb 3 days ago
This is to the guy on here that can be heard making IDIOTIC comments. THROUGH and BY are BOTH terms USED in the bible when referring to JESUS and CREATION. Dont be IGNORANT and make yourself sound like a FOOL! Also, are you the same CLOWN who says.." ASK THE JEWS!!" ?? What a childish and juvenile thing to say!! These are the typical retorts made by people who CANT REFUTE debaters who make a point that CONTRADICTS INC FALSE teachings!
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@Brideoflamb
hahah yeah!
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
Another verse I would have posed to Jose if i was debating him. Isaiah 42:8 " I am the LORD, that is my NAME": This is GOd speaking . But are not God here and JESUS referred to as LORD? So we are going to address the SON .. a MAN only (according to INC) with the same NAME as The FATHER? YES they are the SAME as this is just one of many examples of JESUS getting the same RESPECT ..just like both are referred to as the FIRST and LAST
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@Brideoflamb
uhm.. imsorry about that.. uhm.. its already 4am.. and were still doing our animation (RUSH).. hehehe.. uhm.. can i answer ur questions Later?
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
iglesia ni manalo.
ckomyonisxt 6 days ago
Ventilacion is a fool.
London989 6 days ago
LOUD NOISES!
iIove2hateu 1 week ago
walng Trinity.. Father, Son at Holy Ghost ay iisa lng.. ndi tatlong persona.. iisa ang Dios at ang nagkatwang Tao.. at hndi Pito ang Espiritu Santo..
JESUS is our LORD and our GOD!
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Eh trinity pa din yun eh.. God father, God Son, God Holly Spirit
MarrenDeen 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
hehe.. may sinabi bkong God the Father God the Son at God the Holy Spirit??
at my sinabi bkong 3 Dios un?? kapatid,, gnito ang ibig ko sabihin... For Example.. iKaw.. isang Tao ka diba? My tatay ka db? my kapatid ka diba? at my kaibigan ka dba? ngaun.. kaano ano k ng tatay mo? "ANAK" ka nya.. kaanoano k ng kapatid mo?"KAPATID" k nya.. kanoano k ng kaibigan mo? "KAIBIGAN" ka nya..tma? so.. ANAK,KAPATID at KAIBIGAN ka.. tnong ko sau, 3 persona kaba?? oh ngaun gets muh na?? :)
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 HAHAHAHA Nice Logic, Good kapatid, pero anung kuniksion nun kay Hesus kapatid, paki paliwanag naman
MarrenDeen 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
hahaha.. di mo tlga na Gets..?? koneksyon kay Jesus? ang sinsabi ko d2.. si Jesus ay ng AMA, ang ANAK at ang SPRITO SANTO.. yan nakuha mo?
Father Son at Holy Ghost ay "RELATIONSHIP" ng Dios sa Atin.. kuha moh?? heheheh...
my gusto ako ipabasa sayu.. tpos paki sagot ha? MAT.28:19 at ACTS 2:38..
cge paki plawanag po.. :)
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 ibigsabihin itong mat 28:19 ang pinaka matibay na patunay sa Tatlo na ito na iisa pa din? ibig mung sabihin hindi sila trinity but three beings in one God ganon ba yan? may tatlo pa din eh. ibig sabihin nito ang God ay si Hesus din, at yung Holly Spirit ay Si Hesus din paki paliwanag kapatid salamat...
MarrenDeen 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
heheh kw po ang magulo eh.. heheh.. nilinaw ko na db? si Jesus ang Ama Anak at Spirito Santo.. kya nga pinabasa ko syu ung Mat 28:19 at icompare sa Acts 2:38.. ung AMA ANAK at Spirito Santo ay "RELATIONSHIP" ng Dios sa atin.
uhm mejo makulit ka din po pla.. heheh kc di ko sinabing 3 Dios.. "Tree beings in One God"??? san muh nakuha yan?? hahah meron b sa bible nyn?? wag ka po gumwa ng sarili mong sagot .. pinliwanag ko na sau.. malabo pag iisip mo kung di mo prin naintindihan...
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 hahahaha sa tutuo lang nakakalito, kung si Hesus ang Ama, Anak at Espirito, talgang magulo, kc kung siya yung lahat, nung nagkatawang tao siya, siya p rin ang Diyos diba? eh nung time na yun hindi nya alam ang araw ng pag huhukom. so panu nangyari na Diyos siya ngunit hindi niya alam kung kelan ang araw na pinaka mahalaga sa lahat. magulo kapatid pero salamat sa effort mo..
MarrenDeen 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
salamat din sayu, pero sabi ko nmn sagutin mo muna yung tinatanong ko sayu..
ung sinasabi mo, un ung sinabi nyang "Walng nkakaalam ng Araw na iyon, kahit mga Anghel sa langit o khit ang Anak ng tao (JEsus)" dba? may pang unwa ka po ba? bkit nya sinabi un? simple.. kc naparoon sya ndi para sabihing sya ang huhusga.. un nga ang purpose ng pagkakatwang tao nya eh.. un din ung sinbi nyng "DArating Ako n prng isang MAgnanakaw" meaning: "Wlang nkakaalam kung kelan nya gagawin" gets?
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
Ang Father Son at Holy Ghost po ay ndi "NAME" ito po ay "TITLE".. binasa mo ba ung unang Comment ko sau?? kung paanong ikaw ay ANak ng Tatay mo, at KApatid ng Kapatid mo at kaibigan ng kaibigan mo? ibg sabihin b nun 3 Tao ka?? ito pa.. para mas madali mo maintindhan ha.. wag ka ksi paliko liko.. example ulit ha.. kunwari ikaw.. my trbaho ka.. Teacher ka, Doctor ka, Politiko ka.. pero iisang tao ka lng.. pero 3 ang trabaho mo.. ibg sabihin ba nun 3 Persona ka? heheheh...
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
Mayroon lamang IISANG DIOS.. ndi xa 3 persona.. at wag muh din po isipin na kampi ako sa Trinitarian na nsa Video.. kc parehong mali ung mga nagdedebate dyn... iisa lng ang Dios.. ndi sya 3 being.. TITLES po ang twag dun...
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
Ang Dios (AMA) nagkatawang Tao at tinwag na (Bugtong na ANAK) at ang Dios mismo ang Spirito Santo..
oh ngaun.. ANO ang sagot mo sa Pag cocompare ko sa MAt.28:19 at Acts 2:38????
bkit di mo msagot?? heheheh...
gusto mo ng pliwanag??
tapusin muna natin tong Usapan ntin sa pag compare sa Mat.28:19 at Acts 2:38.. pag nsagot muh yan.. uhmm... Nice.. kc katotohanan lng nmn ang mnanaig dyn eh.. hehehe
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Salamat kapatid at alam ku ang layunin mo.. ang nakagulo lng lalo yung sabi mo na Yung Ama, Anak at Espirito Santo ay Iisa lang, e nung nanalangin si Hesus sinu yung ama kung isa lang yan? nung nag sabi si Hesus na "Diyos ko Diyos ko bakit mo aku pinabayaan?" sinu si Hesus at siny yung tinatawag niya na Diyos ko.
MarrenDeen 1 week ago
@MarrenDeen
John 17:1-3 yang nagdasal sya sa Ama.. alm mo kung bakit? bilang Tao kelngan nya magdasal.. bkit?? un po ay Nasusulat kapatid.. bsahin mo sa PSA.65:2.. nbsa muh?
kung nbasa muh ang Buong NT, mbabsa muh dun na si Jesus ay naparito dn pra sundin ang mga kautusan db? at dhil si Jesus ay nsa "Flesh (LAMAN)".. kelangn nya mnalangin.. oh nagets muh ba? ehheeheh.. saliksikin muh muna kc ang ksulatan :)
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
yung sumigaw sya ng Dios ko Dios ko Bkit mo ako pinabayaan?
Una.. my tnong ako sayu.. sagutin mo ha.. "PINABAYAAN NGA BA SYA NG DIOS"??
ang sgot dyn : HINDI.. bkit? kc khit si satanas alam na ndi pinabayaan ng Dios si Jesus.. Bsahin mo sa Mat 4:6-8.. yn ang sgot,, ngaun.. anuh yung pag sigaw ni Jesus? Yun po ay kasama sa PROPESIYA n dranasin ni Cristo,Bsahin muh po sa PSA.22:1..yan pag nbasa muh sana maintindihan muh.. :) Pano? sinagot ko..ikw nmn sumagot sa Mat28:19 at Act2:38..
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 :) pasensya na po kayo kapatid, talgang ang labo, una hindi pweding ang Diyos at Tao and at the same time Diyos sya.. dahil ang diyos ay walang pasimula at walang hanganan.. si Pinanganak at saka ayon sa inyo namatay.. --- at si Hesus mismo sa Bibliya at tinatawag niya ang sarili nya na tao, at kailanman hindi niya tinawag ang sarili nya na Diyos. Pasensya kana kapatid pero hindi ko talga matangap ang turo mo... salamat sa effort mo kapatid.. Naway gabayan tayo ng Diyos
MarrenDeen 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
malabo tlga un sa mga taong binulag ni satanas ang pag iisip .. tsk tsk.. mabuting mgsaliksik ka pa po.. totoo ung mga sinabi mo.. pero npaliwanag ko na yn sau .. bkit di sya nagpakilala? simple.. ksama un sa sinabi nyang "NARITO AKO HNDI PARA PAGLINGKURAN".. hndi sya naroon pra paglingkuran sya.. naron sya pra magpaka baba.. at ipakilala ang Mabuting balita.. ang Evangelio sa Kaligtasan.. at hndi para ipagyabang n sya ang Dios..
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
hndi nya tlga sinabi ng derkta n sya ang Dios.. pero tnong ko syo my sinabi a syng "HNDI AKO ANG DIOS"??
kung mababsa mo po.. sabi ni Thomas s knya "PANGINOON KO AT DIOS KO".. ngaun.. kung tlagang hndi sya ang Dios, Dapat sinabi nya ky tomas na "NAGKAKAMALI KA".. Tama?? kung babsahin muh sa Rev. ng mita ni Juan ang ang Anghel.. Sinamba nya ito.. at anong sabi ng ANghel? "ANG DIOS ANG SMBAHIN MO"..
nakuha mo po? my ipapanuod ako sayu n mga video, mgndan panuorin mo ha..
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
tungkol sa Ang Dios ay wlang Pasimula at walng hanggan.. Kapatid.. payo ko sayu bago ka gumamt ng mga salitang mula sa Biblia, isipan muh muna ung mga bgay at kung saan patungkol iyon.. yung wlang pasimula at wlang hanggan po "Wla syang pasimula dhil sya ang Lumikha, at wlang hanggan.. dhil hndi sya kyln man mwwla".. un nga ang dhilan kung bkit kylngan mgkatawang tao eh.. dhil sa Ang Dios ay spirito kya ndi sya mpapatay..kelangn nyna mgkatwang tao pra maialay sya at mapatay..
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
prng gnito lng yan eh.. sabi ng Dios sa ISA.44:6 sya ang "UNA AT HULI"... sabi ni Jesus sa APOC. 1:17-18 "Ako ang UNA at ang HULI"..
sabi ni Jesus sa Jn. 8:58 "AKO NGA" sabi ng Dios sa EXo. 3:14 "AKO'y yaong AKO NGA"
sabi sa ISA.9:6.. ang ipanganganak n sanggol ay tatatwaging Dios at Wlang HAnggang AMA...
sana maintndihan mo po.. :)
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@MarrenDeen
kapatid nalilito kba kung panong ang Dios habng nsa Langit ay nsa Lupa pa sya?? Dpat bang magtaka? imposible ba sa knya un? n Khit sya ang Ama, nrito pa sya sa Lupa bilang Tao?? heheh... Bsahin mo ung JER. 23:23-24.. sana saliksikin muh lhat ng nsususlat.. ung ikw mismo ung babsa kesa nakikinig ka lng sa iba.. :) God bless Us!! salamat...
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 In Math 29:19 INC ASSUMES baptizing is referring to the WATER baptism CEREMONY when in fact its speaking of the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM or WASHINg by JESUS of the SINS of the SOULs of those that were HIS BODY. The ELECT are WASHED or CLEANSED of SIN By the BLOOD of jESUS Then that SPIRITIA:L baptism is reaffimed in Marl 1:6 when JOHn says HE has baptized with WATER but JESUS will BAPTIZE with the HOLY SPIRIT later!!
Brideoflamb 1 week ago
@Brideoflamb
Yup.. pero wla nmn ako question dun sa Water Baptism eh.. kc un nmn tlga ang Tama.. nga pla.. Di ako Catholic kya di un ang paniniwala ko ha.. ang Question ko d2.. sa Mat 28:19 at Acts 2:38.. kaninong Name dpt ibaptize ang isang tao? Father Son at Holy Spirit ba? o in Jesus' Name? apg nlaman mo ang sagot,, yan ang dahila kung bkit iisa ang AMA ANaK at Spirito Santo :)
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 PLEASE respond in ENGLISH!! I am an american who cant read Tagalog which I am assuming your repsonse is in!! Thanks
Brideoflamb 6 days ago
@Brideoflamb
aw sorry.. im not good in english.. heheh
uhm...then how you understand my earlier post?? heheh.. uhm what im talking about is... the baptism in water is RIGHT.. according to the Baptism who was taught by Jesus.... uhm.. hahah!!! Nose bleed~ uhm.. maybe its better to watch the video about what im sying.. Baptism In Jesus' Name - A Fresh Look [HD] and Baptism in Jesus Name - Truth About Salvation
sekaidemitsumi14 6 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 NO you need to understand that NOT EVERY time you see the word BAPTISM in the bible is it referring to a WATER baptism CEREMONY! Thtas why John the baptist said that he did a WATER baptism but JESUS would WASH or CLEANSE or BAPTIZE the SOULS of HIS BODY when HE WASHED them with HIS BLOOD A WATER baptism is a CEREMONY or RITE honoring the REDEEMER in JESUS. No water baptism EVER washjed away SIN from the SOUL> ONLY JESUS did that!!
Brideoflamb 6 days ago
@Brideoflamb
i Understand,Like Paul said,dat many of us were baptized in the Death of Jesus..uhm but what im talking about Mat28:19 and Act2:38 is about the Deity of Jesus,dat the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost is JESUS..uhm..about the Water baptism.. the cermony of wter bptism a must.. why? like Jesus said in John 3:5 "Except a man be born of WATER and of the SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" so,how can you say that u wer baptized if u r not bpatized in the water frst?
sekaidemitsumi14 5 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 What INC doesnt teach you is that WATER in the Bible is SYMBOLIC of the WORD.. One is WASHED by the WORD!! Who is the WORD?? JESUS!! So now read thaty verse again.. "EXCEPT a man be born of JESUS and of the SPIRIT
.. Your WATER baptism CEREMONY is just that a CEREMONY. the problem with INC as they teach you SURFACE meanings.. JESUS did ALL of the WORK REQUIRED to pay for the SINS of HIS body. WE cant AID in our SALVATION
Brideoflamb 5 days ago
@Brideoflamb
sorry but i am not a member of INC.. and i am not also follow their Doctrine or their belief..uhm i know also tht Jesus is the Word (Jn.1:1-14) my question is..are u telling me tht the Water bptism cermony is not Ryt? and what r ur proofs that the word "WATER" in John 3:5 is reffering to the WORD(Jesus)?
sekaidemitsumi14 5 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 We are WASHED by the WORD!! John 1:1 the WORD becoming flesh is JESUS WATER is SYMBOLIC of WASHING. this is why WATER is used in baptism CEREMONY.. Just as WATER washed the FLESH of FILTH.. the BLOOD of JESUS wshed SIN from the SOUL!! Let me give you this example. Suppose there is a baptism in a church and the WATER supply is cut off.. That person dies!! Do you think that his MISSING a WATER baptism CEREMONY will prevent God from SAVING him?
Brideoflamb 5 days ago
@Brideoflamb
MISSING a WATER baptism CEREMONY will prevent God from SAVING him?
uhm Ok.. hehehe.. Does the Water Baptism REquires ONLY to do insde the CHURCH??? thers a Lot of Water in the Earth.. :) think about that.. hehehe..
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 You are missing the point or are just kidding here. BAPTISM is from the GREEK meaning to "IMMERSE in a fluid.. ie "TO WASH". A WATER baptism is a TYPE of BAPTISM.. its a CEREMONY ONLY What most churches do is FOCUS on the ACT or work of a WATER baptism INSTEAD of the ONE BAPTISM by JESUS. they want to BOAST and be PROUD and say to God ''LOOK at me and what i did! BUT ALL GLORY and PRAISE is to be to GOD.. WE ARE NOTHING compared to what JESUS did!!
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 Im glad you used the term CEREMONY when referiing to baptism. No matter how lovely and holy it may be.. ist still a CEREMONY or work we do. No WORK we do will aid in our SALVATION. God didnt look down the corridors of time and make a point of seeing whether we're WATER baptized in a church CEREMONY or not When the bible says.. REPENT ye and be BAPTIZED and you will be blessed with the HOLY SPIRIT,, it WASNT alluding to a WATER baptism but the ONE BAPTISM on the CROSS!
Brideoflamb 5 days ago
@Brideoflamb
heheh did i say that once you baptized, u wer alredy SAved? as James2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.. i agree with that..
about the Cermony.. you mean that the Water baptism ceremony is not a Must? remember how the Apostles and John thebaptst wer Bptising in the River of Jordan.. even Jesus wer Baptized in water also.. ryt? water baptism is 1 step to Salvation
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 WATER baptism as a REQUIREMENT to be saved, has been ingrained in you. You didnt respond to my question. You think a person who dies the day of his WATER baptism CEREMONT cant be saved?? JESUS was WATER baptized becasue as a high priest it was a REQUIREMENT. Did the WATER baptism have any effect on JESUS who was SINLESS?? ALL GLORY goes to JESUS . HE WASHED SIN. ! WATER baptism is WORK we do to HONOR JESUS NEXT: WORKS and tALL the verses
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@Brideoflamb
Obviously.. Jesus Never sinned!! wat i mean is.. "Jesus Gives us an EXAMPLE how to do or to Obey the Cermony in Baptism.." this Cermony is a sign that u wer Diong the Baptsm that Jesus wants us to do...
Can i ask you..?? Are you Baptized in Water and in Spirit? in Jesus' Name?
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 CEREMONY is NoT a SIGN of anything!! One can do CEREMONIES after CEREMONIES and has NO BEARING on whether one is SAVED or NOT! There is NOTHING wrong with doing a CEREMONY to HONOR and GLORY to JESUS on what he did by spilling HIS BLOOD But when one ADDS to the BIBle that this CEREMONY is a REQUIREMENT to be of the BODY of JESUS or in some SIN is WASHED is the BLASPHEMY!! THE ONE BAPTISM thats NECESSSARY to be SAVED is JESUS ON the CROSS
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@Brideoflamb
so.. you mean... that the water Bptism is not a must?! and when jesus Died on Cross, we already saved???? so how about the unbelievers? the muslims and the jews?
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 OF COURSE!! JESUS is the REDEEMER! basic Bible study 101 JESUS was laden with ALL of the dirty ROTTEN SINS of those GOD ELECTED to be BLESSED with MERCY and GRACE! God is ALL-knowing so that HE ONLY could look down the corridors otf time and ELECT a CHOSEN few who would have MERCY on. AS far as Muslims ONLY God make that those decisions. WE are not to be concernd with how God makes HIS choices. We mst come HUMBLY before GODl
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
@Brideoflamb i know that u know also, that ONLY the believers and followers of Jesus are saved... why? can u tell to ur self that "I am Saved from eternal death bcos Jesus pays for my sins" at the same time, you are a Murderer? John 3:16-18 ses "...And WHOSEOVER BELIEVETH on him should NOT PERISH but have evrlsting life.. but he that believeth not is condemned already,".. so.. if you are not in God, are you already saved?
sekaidemitsumi14 3 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 I dont know what exactly you are asking here?? If one is SAVED this means JESUS was laden with ALL of your DIRTY rotten sins! ONLY god is the judge of that... BELIEVING isa RESULT of GOD opening your SPIRITUAL eyes and ears. Dont mixup any ACTION or work we do with what GOD does!! The difference in me and the church members esp INC is that they GUARANTEE that SALVATION is ONLY to those in this PArticular CONGREGATION.
Brideoflamb 3 days ago
@sekaidemitsumi14 You see when you infer or imply that WATER baptism is a MUST you are saying it AIDS or is a COMPONENT to one being ELECTED to being SAVED or NOT What you have NEVER been taught is that the ONLY BAPTISM thats A RQUIREMENT to be saved is the ONE BAPTISM by JESUS ask any church member : were you BAPTIZED? they proudly reply" OH YES in mu church BUT THATS NOT THE ONE BAPTISM the Bible is referring to like REPENT ye and be BAPTIZED
Brideoflamb 4 days ago
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sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
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@Brideoflamb
SO.. According to You.. WHAT IS THE RGHT BAPTISM..???? Answer it.. :)
sekaidemitsumi14 4 days ago
@MarrenDeen
Una.. ndi dapt tawagin na PERSONA ang Dios..bkit?? kc sya ay Spirito (Jn.4:24)
gnun din ang Holy Spirit.. dhil ang tnatwag na HOLY SPIRIT ay ang Dios mismo.. pano?? Psa.99:9 "God is HOLY" at Jn. 4:24 "God is Spirit".. so... Sino ung HOLY SPIRIT???? sa FAther SON at Holy Ghost po.. ang SON lng ang pede twaging PERSONA.. ito ay ng mgkatawang Tao sya.. sa HEb.1:3 nga lng tinwag na person ang Dios "express image of his person(Jesus)"..
sekaidemitsumi14 1 week ago
I'm no christian, but common sense says that if Jesus had to be told the message by the Father, then they're not so equal anymore. Plus, I don't get how they're all so equal, when 90% of the debate, the Holy Spirit was barely mentioned. Trinity = flawed. It makes sense to believe that 3 different beings = 3 different beings. God has no beginning and no end, so the whole situation of Christ being born, died, and resurrected contradicts the whole concept of God's stature.
iIove2hateu 1 week ago
@iIove2hateu Ill explain this to you as you NEVER been taught before.. WAGES of SIn is DEATH.. the SECOND death or ETERNAL separation from GOD.. Now those nOT SAVED will pay the PENALTY of theri SINS by being ETERNALLY separated from GOD. But the CHOSEN or ELECT cant pay their PENALTY! And God is NOT above the LAW in that HE could not just say YOu are SAVED and you are NOT. So God made FLESH as JESUS made that PAYMENT. ONLY an ETERNAl being coudl do that!!
Brideoflamb 1 week ago
Inaanyayahan po namin kayong dumalo sa Grand Evangelical Mission ng Iglesia Ni Cristo sa darating na Feb.28, 2012 sa Quirino Grandstand. 5pm ang start ng program pero agahan na rin ang pagpunta dahil maraming dadalo mula pa sa iba't-ibang lokal.
^_^
indiotribe 1 week ago
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@indiotribe NAKAKA-INTINDI ka ba NG TUNGKOL SA '' IGLESIA ''?
KUNG nakaka-pntindi ka, ITO ANG TANONG KO SA IYO; YUN BANG MGA ANAK NI '' ISRAEL ''sa MATANDANG TIPAN, SILA BA AY '' IGLESIA O HINDI ''?
A. KUNG IGLESIA
B. KUNG HINDI IGLESIA
wertgfdc 1 week ago
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@INC NI felix, MERON BANG ISA MAN SA INYO NA NAKAKA-INTINDI NG TUNGKOL SA '' IGLESIA ''?
KUNG MERON, ITO ANG TANONG KO SA INYO; YUN BANG MGA ANAK NI '' ISRAEL ''sa MATANDANG TIPAN, SILA BA AY '' IGLESIA O HINDI ''?
A. (KUNG) IGLESIA
B. (KUNG) HINDI IGLESIA
wertgfdc 1 week ago
@babyfaceassasin mis u na, hahahaha kc si @willybq eh pagbabasahin pa ko ng sangkatutak nyang post kaysa sumagot sa simpleng tanung ko eh,atleast ikaw kahit baby ka pa eh sumasagot agad noon,bc ka pa?
TheLeonguerrero005 1 week ago
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@babyfaceassasin asan ka na? mis u na sister hahahaha bc ka pa ba? dami bang mis gay ngayon sa mga fiesta nyo? patawanan mo na ako ulit, masyadong seryoso yung mga ka persona mo dito eh
TheLeonguerrero005 1 week ago
babyfaceassasin asan ka na? mis u na sister hahahaha bc ka pa ba? dami bang mis gay ngayon sa mga fiesta nyo? patawanan mo na ako ulit, masyadong seryoso yung mga ka persona mo dito eh
TheLeonguerrero005 1 week ago
SO according to the WIZARD JOSE, The FATHER.. or CREATOR of the JEWS who wanted to kill JESUS was the DEVIL!! RIDICULOUS!!! Notice how Jose ALWAYS makes a joke about something when he is cornored!! Lets make a childish joke about the egg prop. cause its SYMBOLIC of 3-in-one!! Lets make a RIDICULOUS statement.. ASk the JEWS!! Much like the IDIOT who makes the same parrot comment from the audience!!
Brideoflamb 1 week ago
@babyfaceassassin21 Check this out..
Word2daMotha 1 week ago
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OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS AGREE TO ONE TRUE GOD
Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?
NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES TESTIFY ONE TRUE GOD
John 17:3,1 - Father you are the only true God who sent Jesus
JOHN 15:21
But they will do all this to you because you are mine; for they DO NOT KNOW THE ONE who sent me.
ANTI-IGLESIA NI CRISTO ZEALOTS DO NOT KNOW THAT THE ONLY TRUE GOD is the FATHER ALONE.
INC BELONG TO JESUS THAT IS THE WHY ANTI-INC HARASS US. NOW THAT'S IN THE BIBLE
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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SPECIAL THANK YOU INC PERSECUTORS
@brideoflamb1 (ex-INC turned Anti-INC Zealot)
@willybq (Anti-INC Sympathizer)
"Your persecution of IGLESIA NI CRISTO reminds us you DO NOT KNOW (ONLY TRUE GOD) HIM who sent Jesus"
John 15:18-21
“If the world hates you...it hated Me before it hated you....I CHOSE you out of the world, therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING John 15:18-21.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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John 15:18-21
“If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
FACT: INC PERSECUTORS, PERSECUTE US BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD; WHO SENT JESUS.
FACT: INC PERSECUTORS DENY THAT THE TRUE GOD SENT JESUS.
"Persecution of IGLESIA NI CRISTO only reminds us that INC persecutors DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Jesus and that INC are chosen"
Thank you to the following INC PERSECUTORS:
@brideoflamb1 @willybq
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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SPECIAL THANK YOU INC PERSECUTORS
@brideoflamb1 (ex-INC turned Anti-INC Zealot)
@willybq (Anti-INC Sympathizer)
"Your persecution of IGLESIA NI CRISTO reminds us you DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Jesus and that INC are chosen"
John 15:18-21
“If the world hates you...it hated Me before it hated you....I CHOSE you out of the world, therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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"JESUS is GOD manifested in the FLESH!!" - @brideofscam1
John 15:18-21
"..I CHOSE you ...therefore the world hates you...If they persecuted Me, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU...because they DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Me."
PERSECUTORS validate that INC are chosen. PERSECUTORS DO NOT KNOW HIM who sent Jesus. PERSECUTORS DO NOT KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THE FATHER AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
Thank you INC PERSECUTORS.
@willybq
@brideofscam1
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@brideofscam1 If you'd done your research you would know that Irenaeus was quoting from a very early version of Acts which read "Church of the Lord" and not "Church of God." Irenaeus was also extremely adamant about teaching the true teachings passed down by the apostles and in fact that just happens to be the topic under discussion when he makes this quotation.
His quotation shows us that very early manuscripts did indeed indeed show "Church of the Lord" at Acts 20:28.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@brideofscam1 The original manuscripts of the books written in the Bible are GONE. The earliest manuscripts are copies centuries after they were originally written. Some manuscripts read "church of God" while many others read "church of the Lord."
The 1st witness who can testify what the early manuscripts did say is Irenaeus who wrote Against Heresies around 180-185 A.D. The earliest known version of this verse. He writes: "..the Church of the Lord (Book III, 14).
Get your facts right..
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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False prophet @brideofscam1 why don't you address this? Stop weaving in and out like a circus clown and address Mark 15:34
@bridofscam1 funny fact # 183
(@brideofscam1 is an ex-INC turned Anti-INC Propagandist)
1(Jesus) + 1(Jesus' God) = 2 Gods - @brideofscam1 is a polytheist
Mark 15:34
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out..."My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Like the Mormons our friend and Anti-INC zealot @brideofscam1 is a POLYTHEIST.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@brideofscam1 Explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
What's wrong with you? (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?)
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@willbq...Mr. Willy said, "he (Jesus-God) would not introduce himself as God because he was A MAN AT THAT TIME!!!."
Question: God was a man at the time of his prayer to His Father who was in Heaven, right?
Question: WHO THEN MR. WILLY; --- IS THE FATHER OF GOD IN HEAVEN?
At-least in INC. Our God does NOT recognize any other God.
Mr. Willy's God (Jesus) prays to another God (Father)....Are you a also a polytheist like @brideofscam1?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@brideoflamb1
Explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
STOP purporting claims when you cannot provide evidence to support them.
You have been brainwashed...
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno WE dont determine by what we as finite humans THINK or PERCEIVE what the Bible should say.. THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE says CHURCH of GOD Th ONLY reason INC cites a HERETIC version of the BIble in LAMSA is because it says CHUrch of CHRIST. Whereas LAMSA bible is an ENGLISH TRANSLATIOn.. NOT of the ORIGINAL bible.. BUt of the PESHITTA BIBle REWRITE. from ARAMAIC I can rewrite the Bible into Spanish. but its WORTHLESS if WRONG!!
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
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@brideofscam1 Then explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
I'm giving you the chance to explain why Church of God is the most accurate verbiage used in Acts 20:28 rather than Church of Christ. Prove to me that God the Father (only true God) has blood when John clearly wrote God the Father is a Spirit in Jn 4:24.
What's wrong with you?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@brideoflamb1 Acts 20:28 is a passage which is disingenuously promotes by Jesus -is-God theorists like @brideofscam1 to try and support your Jesus-is-God doctrine. It is a well known fact that important early manuscripts do not read "Church of God" but instead have "Church of the Lord." @brideofscam1 obviously ignores this truth.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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False prophet @brideofscam1 why don't you address this? Stop weaving in and out like a circus clown and address Mark 15:34
@bridofscam1 funny fact # 183
(@brideofscam1 is an ex-INC turned Anti-INC Propagandist)
1(Jesus) + 1(Jesus' God) = 2 Gods - @brideofscam1 is a polytheist
Mark 15:34
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out..."My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Like the Mormons our friend and Anti-INC zealot @brideofscam1 is a POLYTHEIST.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
One of the things i learned in debating class in college is how to~READ an opponent through their responses..~ When JOSE repeats the question over and over that the COGIC asks.. JESUS is the FATHER of the JEWS.. he fully well heard it the first time. HE is STALLING as he knows he is beaten on this point as God indeed is the FATHER of all of us... JESUS calling the DEVIL their FATHER is nOT LITERAL l but symbolic of their ACTIONS
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
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@brideoflamb1 You can't even debate with me constructively and now your critiquing others? Shame on you @brideofscum1.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno OH I know I cant debate.. So come on cam BIGMOUTH and teach me the Bible.. lol lol Of course you wont. You just CONFIMED and AIDED my ARGUMENT.. CHURCH of GOD and CHURCH of the LORD are the EARLIEST manuscripts.. DUH.. How stupid can u be?? That means CHURCH of GOD is the CORRECT version.. NOT LAMSA!!
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
@bridofscam1 funny fact # 183
(@brideofscam1 is an ex-INC turned Anti-INC Propagandist)
1(Jesus) + 1(Jesus' God) = 2 Gods - @brideofscam1 is a polytheist
Mark 15:34
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out..."My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Like the Mormons our friend and Anti-INC zealot @brideofscam1 is a POLYTHEIST.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
This is very true. The INC ministers like using vesions of the Bible theat support their false bvelief that Jesus is only a man and just a created being. They also love using the Moffat version for their misleading doctrine on Isaiah 43 about this ravenous bird from the east, bamboozling people into believing that is Felix Manalo. If the INC members only read the Bible for themselves, a lot of them will leave the church like a plague.
willybq 3 weeks ago
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kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
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@willybq On whose authority do you have to interpret the Bible?
Your lack of constructive exegesis in assures me you have no idea what you are talking about.
Your are a false prophet spreading false teachings (1 Jn 4:1)
In Romans 10:15 it says, And how shall they preach unless they are sent?
You must be sent to have authority.
What is your testimony? Do you have the sure word of prophecy? Where is it? Book? Chapter? Verse?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@willybq AMEN.. yes the other SAVIOUR for INC is MOFFATT.. with his FAR EAST hogwash... One of their favorite themes is.. :``How can you trust any other church when they were NOT inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT?? Has any INC member viewed the life of LAMSA?? I doubt it .... like you said.. they dont read the bible .. they would see LAMSA was certainly NOT inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT. INC is FULL of DOUBLETALK!!
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
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@brideoflamb1 Here you go again with LAMSA.
I would love to hear how you explain in detail how God (a spirit - Jn 4:24) has blood according to other versions of the Holy Scripture of Acts 20:28.
I suppose you also believe it was God who died on the cross. Hahaha
You have no authority @brideofscam1 whatsoever. Where is your sure word of prophecy?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
Jose is a MASTER of deception!! of course GOD is the FATHER of the JEWS.. The JEWS had no reason to want JESUS killed based on JESUS calling God HIS FATHER!! Look at the NATION of the JEWS today! They dont RECOGNIZE JESUS at ALL!! THEY REJECTED JESUS then and they REJECT HIM NOW!!! the JEWS then were INSULTED to think that JESUS was placing HIMSELF on the same LEVEL as GOD!!
brideoflamb1 3 weeks ago
@brideoflamb1. I agree with you 100 percent. The only reason why Ventilacion seemed to have won in this one sided debate is because the balck guy does not really the Bible, and he does not know how to ask questions. I have seen how Mr. Ventilacion and other INC ministers debate. They are expert on insulting their opponents when they are losing. They can even become violent at times, and I have seen it with my own eyes.
willybq 3 weeks ago
@willybq Please provide evidence that the INC minister became violent in a debate.
DREEM80 3 weeks ago
@DREEM80 -I did not say it was the ministers that became violent. It was the INC members watching the debates that I witnessed back in the 80s in different parts of Pampanga. They would boo and shout at the opponents and would not give them a chance to be to talk etc. There were cases when the opponents were beaten up later on abvously by INC members.
willybq 3 weeks ago
@willybq YES listen to the INC fan who makes commnts on this video.... ÀSK THE JEWS!!`....What a childish and RIDICULOUS statemnet that can only come from someone who has NOTHING concrete to say about what is being discussed
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
@willybq Thank you!! Jose is well-trained debater... he knows how to PLAY the crowd.... he knows how to subtlely demean and belittle his opponent.. JOSE knows full well he must resort to making jokes about the egg analogy as its a good prop to symbolize the THREE.. in ONE and WHOLENESS of GOD!! TRUE as to the COGIC rep.. focused on LAMSA and how the LAMSA is merely a TRANSLATION of REWRITE of the Bible into Aramaic,, while the ORIGINAL is Church of GOD
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
@brideoflamb1 There it is again Acts 20:28 versions that say church of God.
You keep posting this without explaining blood of God found in that passages' translations.
You really need to do more research @brideofscam1
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno WE dont question what GOD says.. Acts 20:28 of the ORIGINAL bible was NOT WRITTEN in Aramaic.. look it up!! Its says CHURCH of GOD!! In essence what INC has MISLED you to believe that LAMSA is the MOST TRUSTWORTHY understanding of ACts 20;28 because it says Church of Christ?? ... L:EARN.. Lamsa is an ENGLISH translation of the PESHITTA REWRITE of the BIBle into ARAMAIC.. or in other words... a VERSION or PARAPHASE!!!
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
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@brideoflamb1 Once again you have this habit of failing to communicate!
Explain how God has blood - Acts 20:28. When the very nature of the God of Jesus. Who is the Father is Spirit (John 4:24)
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
King ako ang tinutukoy mo, then great. We can discuss the treur nature of our Lord Jesus here. Ano ang gusto mo pang malaman tungkol sa akin. Ang gusto kong malaman tungkol sa iyo at kung ano ang tunay na pangalan mo at kung taga-saan ka at kung ano ang trabaho mo. I will be waiting for your reply. Willy Q
willybq 3 weeks ago
If any member of the Iglesis ni Cristo wants to know more about the true nature of Christ, you are free to email me at wbquiambao@msn.com. I am willing to show you from the Bible and not other book that our Lord Jesus is God in nature just like you and me are human in
nature. There is no argument about the Father being God because that is very clearly written in the Bible.
willybq 3 weeks ago
@willybq:
1 Timothy 6:16 "... No human has ever seen God or ever can see him."
If NO HUMAN HAS SEEN GOD; then who is Jesus Christ that was seen my many?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno Miss or Mr. Puno. -Eto po ang napakalinaw na sagot sa inyong katanungan mula po mismo sa Biblia.. Please read John 1:18 "No one has seen God at any time. The only begoten Son, who is in the bossom of the Father, he has declared him". Ang anak na nasa sinapupunan nang Ama ang nagpakilala sa Ama magmula nang una. Si Moises nakita ang Dios para lang ang mukha niya. Please read Exodus 33:18-23). Si Hesus ang nagpakita sa kanya bago siya nagkatawang tao kaya ganyan ang sabi sa John 1:18.
willybq 2 weeks ago
To tll members of the INC. I encourage you to invest in purchasing your own Bible and start reading so you will know the truth. When you have your Bible, please read the following verses that clearly prove our Lord Jesus is in nature God like the Father. Here they are: Titus 2:13, Romans 9:5, John 1:1-3, Colossians 1: 15-17, I John 5:20, Revelations 1:8, John 20:28, Isaiah 9:6.
willybq 3 weeks ago
@willybq Jesus prayed saying 1 John 17:3 "..And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God.."
1) If Jesus is God the son.
2) and God the Father is only true God
What kind of God is Jesus Christ? (If only God the Father is the ONLY true God)
Please fill in the blank: JESUS IS THE _________ GOD (True or False)
HINT: JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno -Mr. Puno, talagang pa\borito ninyo ang John 17:3 ano? Pero ayaw ninyo namang tanggapin ang mga verses na nabanggit ko sa unang post ko. Si Cristo po ay tinatawag na tunay na Dios din. Eto po ang nakasulat sa Titus 2:13-"Looking for the blessed hope and and glorious appearing of our GREAT GOD and savior Jesus Christ". Great God pa nga ang tawag sa kanya e. Please read also Romans 9:5, I John 5:20 na kung saan tinawag ding "TRUE GOD" si Cristo. Eto pa po: Hebrew 1:8, John 1:1-3-More-
willybq 2 weeks ago
Mr. Puno. Here are some more verses for you to read if you have an open mind. In Revelation 1:8-Jesus introduced himself at the “Almighty who is to come”. I am sure you will agree with me that it is the Son who is returning and not the Father, right? In John 20:28, Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God”, and Jesus did not rebuke or correct him which means he agreed with him. In Matthew28:9 Jesus’ disciples worshipped him, and Jesus accepted that worship. Why? Because HE IS GOD!!!!. More-
willybq 2 weeks ago
Mr. Puno. Regarding your church' favorite verse John 17:3. Here is the simple answer in Philippians 2: 6-8 where it says that Jesus took of his divinity and became a man. If he was already a man, he did not have to take anything off, right? So because he was found by people as a man, do you think he would introduce himself the one true God, or would he introduce his Father who was in heaven as the true God? Of course, he would not introduce himself as God because he was A MAN AT THAT TIME!!!.
willybq 2 weeks ago
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@willybq please review your answer.
You said, "he would not introduce himself as God because he was A MAN AT THAT TIME!!!."
My reply: If God was a man at the time of his prayer to His Father who was in Heaven.
Question: WHOM THEN MR. WILLY; IS THE FATHER OF GOD IN HEAVEN?
No offense Mr. Willy but you have presented a very weak exegesis here.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
The black guy is very correct when he said the INC members don't read the Bible and only their ministers read the Bible. I know because I was born and raised in the INC in Angeles City, Pampanga. That's the reason why I left the INC becuause I started the reading the Bible on my own. The guy who is debating Jun Ventilacion does not know his Bible either. There are myriads of Bible verses in the Bible that clearly prove Jesus is God.
willybq 3 weeks ago
@willybq AMEN SIR My wife is a devoted choir mmebr since childhood.. She NEVER owned a BIBle until I MARRIED her and now have one in the house.. YET YET she STILL doesnt read it.. doesnt have that motivation to read it.. She was shocked to hear on the first page in GENESIS that Man was made on OUR IMAGE.. Ask any INC member who the OUR is referring to? You will get a puzzled look...
brideoflamb1 3 weeks ago
@brideofscam1 On what authority do you have to interpret the Bible?
Your lack of constructive exegesis in other postings assures me you have no idea what you are talking about.
Your are a false prophet.
During the time of Jesus Christ do you believe all had in their possession the Old Testament Manuals? Of-course NOT.
In Romans 10:15 it says, And how shall they preach unless they are sent?
You must be taught by someone sent.
You went off the grid spreading false teachings.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@kaleiapuno REALLY?? and what about the supposed 1900 yrs of the apostasy?? You actually believe the GARBAGE INC feeds you that there was not ONE person that could UNDERSTAND the WORD of GOD and relate that to the common folk of the day?? MY GOSH.. you think God is so LIMITED on what HE can do..lol
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
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On whose authority do you have to interpret the Bible?
Your lack of constructive exegesis in assures me you have no idea what you are talking about.
Your are a false prophet spreading false teachings (1 Jn 4:1)
In Romans 10:15 it says, And how shall they preach unless they are sent?
You must be sent to have authority.
What is your testimony? Do you have the sure word of prophecy? Where is it? Book? Chapter? Verse?
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@willybq YES he should also have emphasized how INC only uses LAMSA for one VERSE.. Acts 20:28.. If I had debated him I would have said that LAMSA ia an ENGLISH translation of the PESHITTA REWRITE of the ORIGINAL bible. The ORIGINAL GREEK says CHURCH of GOD So right from get go INC is a FALSE church!!
brideoflamb1 3 weeks ago
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@willybq SIMPLE QUESTION.
@willybq Jesus prayed saying 1 John 17:3 "..And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God.."
1) If Jesus is God the son.
2) and God the Father is only true God
What kind of God is Jesus Christ? (If only God the Father is the ONLY true God)
Please fill in the blank: JESUS IS THE _________ GOD (True or False)
HINT: JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER.
kaleiapuno 2 weeks ago
@willybq Amen brother!! Please if you have the time.. Post your comments on the ohter debate that was uploaded.. Its INC vs the CATHOICS.. there are 2 of them.. one with KEATING and one more with someone I am not familiar with. The INC posters on there are so arrogant and juvenile.. God bless
brideoflamb1 2 weeks ago
anyway! ang ginawa pong batayan ng kapatid na felix manalo ay ang biblia,at bukod po dyan,ay wala po syang ipinangaral na hindi sa biblia,bagkus lahat po yan nasa biblia,dahilan kung bakit sinasampalatayanan ng iglesia ni cristo na sugo sya.now you know try to be a member of the iglesia ni cristo now.
macky703 3 weeks ago
I understand that there are always haters in this world. Anyway, believe what you believe but i know that i'm in the right way to salvation. don't hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrBloodsucker78 3 weeks ago
mga mahal na kapatid! idinadaan lang po yan sa maganda at mabuting usapan,tingnan nyo sila macky703 at wertgfdc,tahimik na nagdidiskusyon,walang mga alitan at kantyawan
markalbertmanly 3 weeks ago
@markalbertmanly pasencya na tol, di ko mapigilan minsan ang matawa at mangantyaw pag pinagmumura ka ng isang taong sinungaling at naniniwala sa alien na dating INC daw sya, pacensya na po, peace
TheLeonguerrero005 3 weeks ago
@aliens301 ikamusta mo ko sa mga alien na friend mo ha daniel, hahahahah kaya ka pala ganyan magsalita eh, sinapian ka ba ng mga aliens? anung planet daw sila? isasama ka ba nila sa bahay nila sa Nagpuyo sa kahoy? anu space ship nila? yung bunga ng puno? ilang alien na nakita mo at naka usap? meron ba kahit isa? hahahaha alam ba ng nanay mo mga pinaggagawa mo at pinagsasabi sa net? hindi pa huli ang lahat, kausapin mo nanay mo, may gamot pa ata dyan malay mo, hahahahha
TheLeonguerrero005 3 weeks ago
@aliens301 may sayad ka ba sa pag iisip daniel? anu trabaho mo Aliens/Paranormal Investigator? at saan ka nagtatrabaho daniel? sa Aliens Company? alam ba ng nanay mo yan dong? tapos naniniwala ka sa Dios? tinuro ba ng Dios na may NAGPUYO SA KAHOY na yun ang bahay ng mga alien? sows, may mental ba dyan sa Cebu? at pinapayagan ka nilang mag net? isumbong mo nalang ako sa mga aliens kaysa sa mga muslim, kc mababait mga naging tropa kong muslim eh, mababait din ba mga aliens? hahahahah
TheLeonguerrero005 3 weeks ago
@TheLeonguerrero005 talagang hinid mo kaya mag debate sa mga muslim...
aliens301 3 weeks ago
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@aliens301
Taong naniniwala sa Alien:talagang hinid mo kaya mag debate sa mga muslim...
Leon na hindi naniniwala sa Alien: cno nagsabi sayo na hindi ko kaya? sabi ni baby? o sabi ni E.T? o baka sabi sa sayo ni Kokey? hahahaha hindi ako minura ng mga muslim bakit ako magsasalita against sa kanila? at hindi ako natatakot sa kanila? bakit? masasama ba mga muslim? may galit ba muslim sa INC? sabihin mo lang at papaka usap kita sa mga muslim kong kakilala d2 sa youtube? gusto mo?
TheLeonguerrero005 3 weeks ago
Locale of Las Vegas, NV! (:
helloo brothers & sisters. <3
jeezjaclyn 4 weeks ago
WALANG NAKAKA ALAM KUNG KAILAN ANG KATAPUSAN NG MUNDO . PERO SAKA SAKALI MANG END OF THE WORLD NA. KARAMIHAN FILIPINO CITIZEN NASA LANGIT . SILA LANG DAW MAIILILIGTAS.
fmflores2000 4 weeks ago
hindi po naman talaga maniniwala ang inc sa trinity kasi po una wala namang nakasulat sa biblia na trinity,hehehehehehe
markalbertmanly 4 weeks ago
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fmflores2000 4 weeks ago
Ha ha as usual nilamon na naman ng buo sa debate ^^
dharzfreeman 4 weeks ago
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RELIGION = MONEY
MONEY = POWER
POWER = POLITICS
POLITICS = MANIPULATION
MANIPULATION = RELIGION
55oiram 1 month ago
JUAN 17:1-26, -mateo 16:18 efeso 5;21-33, colosas 1:18 1timoteo 3:14-16 roma 16:16 -MAGANDANG BALITA gawa 20:28 -lamsa version.
JOHN 20:17 ewan ko nalang kung hind pa kayo MALIWANAGAN.
kung DIOS si CRISTO at kung sya ang may lalang ng lahat ng bagay edi sana nung namatay sya ng 3days edi sana PATAY din lahat ng nilalang nya ng 3days dn! MAY NABASA BA KAYO SA BIBLIA NON??? HA???? kc patay ang DIOS EH! pero ano po nakasulat sa biblia? binuhay syang muli ng PANGINOONG DIOS.
c4rlevo 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@c4rlevo hehehehe... tama ka diyan.
indiotribe 1 month ago
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TheLeonguerrero005< natataranta ka na eh, alam mo sinungaling ka! huli ka no, sabi mo INC ka, san ka ngayon lulugar? eh ilang araw lang INC ka tapos wala naman ngayon,
productionLioneDea: Pano hindi siya magsinungaling eh ang turo ni manalo sa miyembro nya ang dios marunong magsinungaling, kaya magsinungaling rin sya, aral nila yan...
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productionLioneDea 1 month ago
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w w w. thehistoryspeaks.weebly. com <-- see this. about the history of Bible.para sa mga ndi marunong mag observe oh... Wag kayong paloko sa Diablo.
manginginom, sugarol, babaero, mapag mura, mapang lait ng kapwa, at madami pa.
Merong mga katoliko, mga protestante, mga INC na ganyan .. sa tingin ba nyo ay maliligtas ang mga ganyang tao? Pa simba simba pa, wala din namang natutunan.
insatiableALXS 1 month ago
O ito para doon sa anti-INC na nagsasabing Church of God angnasa talata, heto nbalang pakibasa nito
“ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ κυρίου”
Bahagi ng Acts 20:28 yan pakibasa nalang at pakisabi kung Church of God ba yan sa English?
MrManipakyaw 1 month ago
Para sa nagsasabing ayaw ng INC na basahin sa Greek, kasinungalingan po yan, katunayan itong ipopost ko ay greek NT ito ng Acts 20:28
" “προσέχετε ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ, ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους, ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ κυρίου, ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ ἰδίου.”"
Marunong ba magbasa itong anti-INC na to? Basahin mo nga kung IGLESIA NG DIOS o CHURCH OF GOD ba ang nakalagay dyan? Kung hindi ka marunong magbasa umamin ka. di yan CHURCH OF GOD!
MrManipakyaw 1 month ago
@MrManipakyaw CHURCH OF THE LORD ba pare? walang word na CHRIST PARE SA TALATA ACTS 20:28
ETO BASAHIN MO; MATEO 11:25, DEUT.6:4 JER.10:10 easy lang , WALANG WORD NA ''CHRIST'' SA TAL.
“ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ κυρίου” CHURCH OF THE LORD.
wertgfdc 1 month ago
Wow...one contradiction after another that's why the trinity could never be!
RicciHernandez823 1 month ago
@RicciHernandez823 as a matter of fact Sis. Rosita Trillanes came back to the church and died as Deaconess. here's a blog of one of the inc defenders in the net answering that accusation on Bro. Felix.
Is Bro. Felix Manalo a "rapist"?
2010/11/is-bro-felix-manalo-rapist.html
indiotribe 1 month ago
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hahaha tolits sumama ka sa INC na isang CULTO? HAHAHA MAHIRAP SUMAMA TAYO SA MGA RAPIST NG ASAWA NG PASTOR..ANG FOUNDER NILA SI FELIX MANALO ISANG RAPIST NI ALING ROSITA TRILLANES...HUHUHUHU AYAW NAMIN PUMUNTA SA IMPEYERNO PARA MAKIPAGKITA KAY FELIX MANALO NA KATABI NGAYON NI luciper AT LEO ECHEGARAY... ALAM NA NATIN NA NAGSAMA NA NGAYON SI LEO ECHEGARAY ANG FELIX MANALO..NA MGA RAPIST SILA ANG RIGHT HAND NI LUCIPER NGAYON at DITO SA EARTH SI VINTELANCION, PARBA AT MACKY703.
elesiasoriano 1 month ago
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RicciHernandez823 1 month ago
manood na lang po kayo ng 'Ang Pagbubunyag" sa Net25 tapos isulat niyo mga talata sa Bible na binigay at kayo na magsuri. Every tuesday 10pm yata yun. Meron din sa Gem TV.
indiotribe 1 month ago
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@babyfaceassassin21
at heto ang dating tanong ko na hindi mo pa NASASAGOT, ''sinong CRISTO ANG TINUTUKOY MO NA POONG NAZARENO''?
dahil ang tinutukoy kong POONG NAZARENO NYO, AY YUNG BINUHAT NOONG IKA-9 NG ENERO, DIOS BA IYON OR DIOS-SIOSAN?
NAKI-ULOL KA RIN BA NA KASAMA NG MILYON-MILYONG LIKO ANG MGA ISIP DAHIL SA PINAPAGDILIM NA TALAGA?
wertgfdc 1 month ago
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@babyfaceassassin21 INC NI felix LANG ANG KINAKAYA-KAYA MO,SABAGAY KUNG WALA NAMANG MGA PARING KATOLIKO AY HINDI RIN NAGING PASTOR SI felix NG IGLESIANG TATAG NYA.
ALAM NAMAN NATIN NA PAREHO KAYONG MAY ARAL NA LIKO.
wertgfdc 1 month ago
@babyfaceassassin21 INC NI felix LANG ANG KINAKAYA-KAYA MO,SABAGAY KUNG WALA NAMANG MGA PARING KATOLIKO AY HINDI RIN NAGING PASTOR SI felix NG IGLESIANG TATAG NYA.
ALAM NAMAN NATIN NA PAREHO KAYONG MAY ARAL NA LIKO.
wertgfdc 1 month ago
@wertgfdc NAKU! PAREHO NAMAN KAYONG MGA MALI AT BALUKTOT ANG RELIHIYON NAG AAWAY PA KAYO? HEHEHEHE! PAREHO NAMAN KAYONG ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH EH!
macky703 1 month ago