there is one 1300+ hp 7m in a rail style drag car. From what i see the mk3's have better traction out of the whole because the powerband is much smoother than a 2jz. built 2jz's are pretty gutless until say 3500rpms or higher, then its a huge surge of power. 7m distributes the power better through out the whole rpm range.
some you people are morons, if the 7mgte is so much better, why do most people with MK3 swap it for a 1jzgte, or 2jzgte, ill explain why the jz series motors are more reliable, you dont need to rebuild anything to make power and hold together, both the jz series motors start out with more power. matter of fact, other RWD platform car owners swap in jz motors, NOT 7mgte. some of you people who talk bad about the 1jzgte, cant afford it, so you decide to stick with the headache of the 7m
@jamaicanlovrboy i never said the 7m was more reliable. how could it be? The M series started back in the late 60's. But they can make more power than a 1jz. Thats been proven. Have yet to see any 1000hp 1jzs. Plus 7m came with a meezly 5 psi stock. 1jz was 12-14psi. If 7m was pushing that much it would eat it alive. The torque of the 7m is unmatched unless you get a vg30. jz series has the better internals and better flowing head. Its all personal preference when it comes down to it.
THE 2JZGTE HAS 320 HP STOCK COMPARE TO THE 7MGTE WHICH HAS 232 HP. But build the 7mgte correctly and it is a reliable engine that can produce easily over 500 rwhp. 2jzgte will always be better over all, but dont think that 7mgte can never beat it
Nah its the American spec MKIII Supra...they got the 7M only the Japanese received the 1JZ in that series. Only in 1989 the 7M was available in the Japan MA70 Supra.
Definatly, most people don't understand that the main reason that the 1JZ makes more HP is because of the twins. If you go single all you did was lost 500cc of displacement
This is true but when you look at dyno sheets with similiar set ups on the same turbo The numbers are generally very close if not the same. Another thing that gives the 1J an advantage is the turbos the stock 7M turbo is not very big(56 trim).I don't know what the 1J comes with but the total between the two is probably able to move more air. Finally more displacement means you have more torque and can spool a larger turbo with less lag. Not to mention 4k is alot to gain like 50 hp. T61 ftw
I'm not disputing that all things being equal the 7M will put down more power. I was just saying why the 1J has more power from the box. By the way the ct26 will flow quite alot of air at 12psi (which is what a 1J has for stock boost) so just by running the same boost pressure the 7M will over power the 1J. The 7M looks so bad from the factory because Toyota only blessed it with 6.8psi of boost
Actually the ct26 is a 46 trim stock... So sorry, even smaller than you thought.
Yes, the 1j revs higher and has a well flowing head, but I'd prefer my torque any day. I used to own a honda, and am done with the whole torqueless thing.
i got a 87 7m supra n/a-t and i was gona swap it with a 2jz and now hearing about all of this out of all 3 what is the better turbo motor that throws more power to the ground?
there is one 1300+ hp 7m in a rail style drag car. From what i see the mk3's have better traction out of the whole because the powerband is much smoother than a 2jz. built 2jz's are pretty gutless until say 3500rpms or higher, then its a huge surge of power. 7m distributes the power better through out the whole rpm range.
mkIIIsupras 1 year ago 2
@mkIIIsupras you puut a smile on my face with this info.
senseilias 2 months ago
some you people are morons, if the 7mgte is so much better, why do most people with MK3 swap it for a 1jzgte, or 2jzgte, ill explain why the jz series motors are more reliable, you dont need to rebuild anything to make power and hold together, both the jz series motors start out with more power. matter of fact, other RWD platform car owners swap in jz motors, NOT 7mgte. some of you people who talk bad about the 1jzgte, cant afford it, so you decide to stick with the headache of the 7m
jamaicanlovrboy 1 year ago
@jamaicanlovrboy 2500 for an engine is not affordable??? when you build an engine much more is invested than that bro
senseilias 2 months ago
@jamaicanlovrboy i never said the 7m was more reliable. how could it be? The M series started back in the late 60's. But they can make more power than a 1jz. Thats been proven. Have yet to see any 1000hp 1jzs. Plus 7m came with a meezly 5 psi stock. 1jz was 12-14psi. If 7m was pushing that much it would eat it alive. The torque of the 7m is unmatched unless you get a vg30. jz series has the better internals and better flowing head. Its all personal preference when it comes down to it.
mkIIIsupras 1 month ago
THE 2JZGTE HAS 320 HP STOCK COMPARE TO THE 7MGTE WHICH HAS 232 HP. But build the 7mgte correctly and it is a reliable engine that can produce easily over 500 rwhp. 2jzgte will always be better over all, but dont think that 7mgte can never beat it
videomaster12 3 years ago
is that africa
9ilty 3 years ago
NOOO!! Caribbean!!
nizsimo 3 years ago
lol we look that bad or are looking that beautiful?
Were in st. Kitts
hard to find on the map we'll soon be on the first page of an atlas
StppnRazr 3 years ago
The dude asked if this is africa not ur fault dude ... well yh st.kitts caribbean ...
mobz16 3 years ago
now im getting a 7m they are much cheaper and i dont need to worry about the mounts for my 87
fournier4life 1 year ago
7m for life :)
MA70with2JZGTE 4 years ago 8
preacher got a 7mgte under dere?..i taut it was a 1jz or sumn
Boosted833 4 years ago
Nah its the American spec MKIII Supra...they got the 7M only the Japanese received the 1JZ in that series. Only in 1989 the 7M was available in the Japan MA70 Supra.
nizsimo 4 years ago
i meant i thought he swapped it out for a 1jz... :) my bad
Boosted833 4 years ago
:) Oh....swapping out a 7M for a 1JZ is a waste....
nizsimo 4 years ago
I agree, Id take the 7m over the 1jz anyday
supra3point0 4 years ago
Definatly, most people don't understand that the main reason that the 1JZ makes more HP is because of the twins. If you go single all you did was lost 500cc of displacement
MKIIIBoy 3 years ago
More revs, more boost and a better flowing head is why the 1J makes more power than a 7M stock for stock.
7mgtesup 3 years ago
This is true but when you look at dyno sheets with similiar set ups on the same turbo The numbers are generally very close if not the same. Another thing that gives the 1J an advantage is the turbos the stock 7M turbo is not very big(56 trim).I don't know what the 1J comes with but the total between the two is probably able to move more air. Finally more displacement means you have more torque and can spool a larger turbo with less lag. Not to mention 4k is alot to gain like 50 hp. T61 ftw
MKIIIBoy 3 years ago
I'm not disputing that all things being equal the 7M will put down more power. I was just saying why the 1J has more power from the box. By the way the ct26 will flow quite alot of air at 12psi (which is what a 1J has for stock boost) so just by running the same boost pressure the 7M will over power the 1J. The 7M looks so bad from the factory because Toyota only blessed it with 6.8psi of boost
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7mgtesup 3 years ago
Actually the ct26 is a 46 trim stock... So sorry, even smaller than you thought.
Yes, the 1j revs higher and has a well flowing head, but I'd prefer my torque any day. I used to own a honda, and am done with the whole torqueless thing.
Nikes223 3 years ago 3
the 1jz is far more reliable than a 7m but im pretty sure my 1ggte mk3 would hang in there against a 7m
jonymanay 3 years ago
@Nikes223
7m engines produce more torque tuned than a 1jz. The 7m is a 3.0 liter, and the 1jz is a 2.5 liter. More fuel = more power. So eat it.
Fastspoolsupra 2 years ago
whatt are yu guys serious?
i got a 87 7m supra n/a-t and i was gona swap it with a 2jz and now hearing about all of this out of all 3 what is the better turbo motor that throws more power to the ground?
fournier4life 3 years ago