Gilad Shalit- גלעד שליט

[kfiridan]

he is reading a post of the "felestine" palestinian newspaper. just to make sure the date is real.

i'm happy to see he is alive

for Fatehgirl - let me ask you one question - what does it tell you when we release a 1000 of you prisoners for 1 of ours.

it might seem like a good deal - i think it shows the value of life for jews - much more than arabs.

[quickfixyz]

ha ha... how many you arrest, u have been arresting innocents in 100s of thousands, dont be hypocrite..

[kfiridan]

yeah we do it all wrong... we arrest them instead of hiding behind our civilians while shooting at them...

very brave..

or would you rather we send suicide bombers to clubs where 16-17 year old kids are going out to have fun... would that be less hypocrite....

i know.. we're the bigger stronger country then our neighbors.. so we should be more tolerant...

but then again.. they keep fucking with us!

[ewazdrzewa]

Yes, this world has no shame and decency. Gilad in captivity is it's remorse. God bless Gilad and his family.

PS. What is he reading?

[Fatehgirl]

Gilad is ok,but what abou the 11.000 palestinian prisoners. what about Marwan Barghouti????

[ewazdrzewa]

What about??? Don't you know he's well, alive and prison he is being kept in? Stop acting as if this disk was an enormous act of humanity. STOP DEMANDING FURTHER RELEASES IF ALL YOU CAN OFFER IS JUST A DISC!!! SHAME ON YOU!!

[kfiridan]

let me tell you something about samir kuntar the "brave" warrior you saved from israeli captivity - the guy you're idealizing put an AK47 in the mouth of a 7 month old baby and pulled the triggered, cause he was a zionist. Great heros you got is all i can say, the heros israelis are proud off are ones that are striving for peace and humility, the ones you love are one that are strong enough to kill kids.

good luck with that you wimps. that's all i got to say...

[quickfixyz]

how many children have you bombed, do u have any shame to come here and talk about babies.

[kfiridan]

the only reason they were bombed was because the palestinians were probably hiding behind them... if not sending them to do their work...

[Dogk24]

who care?

die marwan barghouti

[lSaif]

@Fatehgirl Exactly! dozens of the prisoners are children as well!

[userarefull]

@lSaif Haha, who did told u that? the prisoners are only people who wanted to murder civilians, from hamas or hizballah.

[lSaif]

@userarefull Go look at the facts, Israel arrested minors and still holds them in jails without a trial.

[userarefull]

@lSaif WHAT? well maybe 100, if its true, its stupid but man, its not like there are 8000 from 10,000 people that they are children, almost all of the prisoners really wanted to murder civilians.

[lSaif]

@userarefull I didnt say they are all children, read for goodness sake. I said dozens of the prisoners are children as well.

"Almost all", a fair amount of them are held without trial, thats kidnap.

[userarefull]

@lSaif umm, maybe the hamas and hizballah sent children and we arrested them? i mean i dont think that we will arrest a kid for nothing... i mean in israel if u make a crime or something only ur parents gonna be in prison, not the kid who did it, besides i dont think we will capture a kid because of nothing...

[userarefull]

@lSaif maybe suicide bombers? i just get on ideas... i dont say they are.

[lSaif]

@userarefull Israel arrests people on suspecion, like I said many people there have not had a trial and some have lost years of their lives due to this. Its an unfair and injust system and I really doubt hamas and hazbollah use child soldiers as there is no factual account of them ever using children in Wars.

[userarefull]

@lSaif u know that the palestinians authority actually dont get along with hamas and hizballah? they are actually dont love each other, like fatah vs hamas.. search it on youtube, and im sure that we will not get children in jail for no reason, only if we feel threaten.

[lSaif]

@userarefull Well they are united now pal. So if you "feel" threatened you have the right to arrest a child for years without any evidence at all? Israel also arrests Egyption children as well... For example they just released around 27 Egyption prisoners in which 3 of them were children that were arrested without any justification.

Arresting minors is against international law.

[userarefull]

@lSaif well sorry about that, i didn't know that, but in the gilad shalit deal they only make a deal with 1000 people that wanted to kill here civilians... they didn't sent children... and again, why do they arrest children? and what is the most annoying me is that if all the arabs think my GOVERMENT is not right u dont have to insult all the israelis...

[lSaif]

@userarefull They arrest children because they "think" they want to hurt somone in Israel, they arrest them on suspecion without evidence, its really really sad.

I am glad Gilad Shalit got released, he seems like a really nice guy and I enjoyed watching his interview where he hoped that peace will arrive so I have respect for him but more people need to know thats its not ok to arrest people and waste years of there life based on suspecion and no actual facts.

[userarefull]

@lSaif firstly, u 100% right, i mean arrest children without evidence is really a bad actions to do... but if that was hizballah or hamas they would kill that children already.. dont see me wrong, i'm against what my goverment doing but i just say some facts.. and im sure palestine will have a land only if hamas and hizballah will stop try to kill us... i dont blame all palestinians, i blame only hamas and hizballah.

[lSaif]

@userarefull Hamas and Hazbollah both have never been accused with evidence of kiling prisoners nor do they hold child prisoners (Apart from juvanile facilities) so I am sorry to say thats incorrect.

However I dont agree with hamas launching rockets into Israel but at the same time they do it for revenge because Israel launched airstrikes into Gaza. Both parties need to sit down and talk to each other rather then trying to kill each other and hopefully there will be peace.

[userarefull]

@lSaif ye, we never talked with hamas and hizballah... NEVER, only someone from egypt or germany talked to us and hamas with each other...

and u know that in our prisoners in israel the prisoners actually can meet their family, learn in university, eat GOOD, drink, just do everything, believe me that they didn't treat to gilad shalit very well... what do u mean we are launching airstrikes into gaza? what reason do u think we want to just strike gaza? we ALWAYS pointing at hamas, hizballah people

[lSaif]

@userarefull Not always pointing at hamas, Israel almost always kills people when it targets hamas members. Also many attacks Israel carries out are based on suspecion, for example a few years ago Israel SUSPECTED hamas members were on the beach in Gaza so it fired shells on the beach, however a little girls entire family was on that spot while they were on vacation... The entire family was killed apart from the little girl.

Freedom cannot be replaced by food or drinks, never.

[userarefull]

@lSaif okey, but we dont do it everytime, like the 5000 civilians that died in gaza, how its happend? we didn't just pointed at civilians, we pointed at the hamas people that fire at our civilians rockets while hiding near civilians, what do u want us to do? just stop fire? i mean if we will stop fire there will be much more civilians that will die...

[lSaif]

@userarefull The thing is Israel used white phrosperus and cluster bombs which destroy everything around the location and burn everything. The cluster bombs have small round balls which are fired faster then bullets in there hundereds thats what kills civilians who arent even near the fighting. If Israel used guided missiles without the cluster bombs the civilian death toll would be MUCH! MUCH! lower and also if they did not blow up buildings based on suspecion, like the school they blew up.

[userarefull]

@lSaif what? man, we never use cluster bombs, can u show me a video or something that prove it? are u sure that we kill 100 civilians every missle? every missle we kill like 6 people... its alot, but its not our fault, its only hamas and hizballah fault, if they are really want land and independence, they should just stop start a war with us every time..

[lSaif]

@userarefull I never said a single cluster bomb kills hundered, thats why I said "cluster BOMBS" with a S to suggest many of them. Look at the digitaljournals article on Israels use of cluster bombs, they not only used them in Gaza but in the last days of the lebonan War where hundereds of children have been injured by or lost there limbs after the war because of them. Israel does not want peace, Benjamin ruined all chances of peace when Rabbin was assasinated he changed everything.

[userarefull]

@lSaif we are want peace, but not in situation where we should give the palestinians the 67 border and that we will be under danger.

what do u suggest israel to do when people firing at our civilians while hiding near civilians? just be in the side till 200+ civilians will die in a couple years? we never pointed at civilians, and we never wanted to kill civilians but when it come to a situation where its risking our lives than im sorry to tell u but u gonna do it too.

[lSaif]

@userarefull Israel wont be under danger if it goes back to the 1967 borders, no way. Israel uses false arguements. The Palestinians do not have enough man power to take any part of Israel let alone the technology to do it. Also if by any chance they do take over any part of Israel they can not sustain the invasion. You really think an army which spends 40+ billion on its military can be defeated by one which spends a few million? Come on...

[userarefull]

@lSaif first of all, can u watch this video? thats why we cant move to 1967 border, they will destroy jerusalem! : /watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0

and if we will give them, i'm sure that hamas and hizballah will kill us ALOT of places and civilians.

man, if hamas and hizballah really want country than i think they should make a peace agreement with us that they will not attack us after they will get 1967, and we dont give them 1967 too because we got them after like 40 years of wars...

[lSaif]

@userarefull Hamas and hazbollah both dont have the capacity. Plus they both want peacw with israel as their representative bodies have called for negotiations based on the pre 1967 borders. Dont believe that pathetic video, hamas does NOT have the capability to destroy Israel.

Also we will NEVER destroy Jerusalem, the third most holiest sight (Masjid Al-Aqsa) is based in jerusalem for Muslims.

[userarefull]

@lSaif ye i know, but u know that hamas is killing their own people too, so why when we will give them 1967 they will not attack jerusalem too? i mean i'm for a palestinian land Only if u will not start a war with us and fight against us after u will get the independence, i have now bad thinking or not?

[lSaif]

@userarefull @userarefull How is hamas killing their own people?

Also we do not want all of Jerusalem only East Jerusalem where Masjid Al-Aqsa is based due to it being a holy site for us. Like I said hamas does not have the ability to wage open War with Israel, it has the force of 50,000... they cannot maintain and hold land its just not possible or reasonable. Also if hamas does by any chance take over what do you think America will do?

[userarefull]

@lSaif i just think that my goverment afraid that they will open a war with us, even if they will not win, we prefer the situation that is right now and not the situation that if we will give them the 1967 border... because if we will give them 1967 border they will kill alot of people here, we dont want that happen so we just w8 till someone will make a peace agreement... believe me that i dont want wars, i want to give the palestinians a country if that what make stop but they will attack...

[userarefull]

@lSaif oh and i meant that hamas killing palestinians...

[lSaif]

@userarefull Hamas is not stupid, they will NEVER go into open Warfare with Israel its not just feasible. How will hamas kill more people in the pre 1967 borders? There can be a peace agreement if Israel simply returns to the pre 1967 borders. Previous Presidents such as Rabbin had no issue with it (Until he was killed by suspected Mossad agents).

[userarefull]

@lSaif really? u think rabin killed by mossad agents? why will they do it? i mean rabin only bring peace, why will mossad people will kill him? the one that killed him call Igal Amir, FK HIM! HE IS A MURDER THAT DESTROYED PEACE!! he killed him because he didn't agree with his idea and peace agreements, but You, And i know that he only bring peace, so fk him, but u can watch this video why we dont give them back the 1967 border : /watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0, but i think we just afraid...

[lSaif]

@userarefull Its a definate possibility that he was killed by Mossad because he was doing everything the Zionist regimes did not want to happen, for example actually establishing peace. Soon after Rabbin was killed Benjamin who was completely opposite replaced him.

I've seen the video and it does not consider the facts, like I said a sustained War on Israel by hamas and so on is not within their capabilities. The video is fear mongering simple as that

[userarefull]

@lSaif ok, so what u suggest israel's goverment to do?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Give the land to the Palestinians with peace monitored under the UN and peacekeepers placed between the borders to ensure no Wars arise or any side attacks each other.

[userarefull]

@lSaif hope it will happen mate, i hope the palestinians will get a land and the war will end! AMEN for that! u want it too right?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Yup, amen!

[userarefull]

@lSaif do u a muslim that live in britania? i just want to know, the muslim people make 10 kids?

[userarefull]

@lSaif i dont say its wierd, even once we, the jews made like 10 kids, but if u will keep make 10 kids maybe one day u.k will be muslim's land, do u think like that?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Lol no its not true that we make "10 kids" lmao, this isn't Africa or something. Muslims around here generally have 2-3 kids.

[userarefull]

@lSaif really? oh, than i meant in egypt and all of this... are u sure u dont make 10 kids?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Egyptions in England? Nah I think the Arabs have less kids.... I have Arabs living across the street and they only have 2 kids...

[userarefull]

@lSaif oh, i meant in asia and africa... but w8, from where did the muslim that in europe came from?

[lSaif]

@userarefull The Muslims from Europe? Well they mainly are converts to Islam or those who immigrated after WW2 when countries such as England were short on labour workers to rebuild the countries so they called us down as we helped them in WW2.

I cant speak for the Africans or the Arabs but I can speak for the Asians and yes we do have larger families if you live in the rural parts of the country, however in the inner city the families are generally smaller.

[userarefull]

@lSaif oh, there are alot of muslim people in england that hate israelis? maybe one day i will work there so i just want to know...

[lSaif]

@userarefull No not at all.. we just hate what the Israeli Government is doing... It just approved 2000 settlement buildings in the illegally occupied west bank, I live near a City called "Manchester" and it has a very large Jewish population living near the centre... A VERY large Jewish population...

[userarefull]

@lSaif really? i know manchester! there are 2 teams that i know of football that they came from there, manchester city, manchester united, best teams in the league..

really? there are alot of jews there? there are even jews in london? i have there a family so maybe i will visit them if i will work there, ye, about the settlements, i think the goverment should get the settlers away from those places, our goverment really STUPID, but the marrocans muslim in europe hate every jew (not israeli, jew)

[lSaif]

@userarefull Yes their are Jewish people around London, I heard there is a large hisadic community there as well. Well its sad that Morrocans hate all the Jews, its not right but I have personally never seen anti-semitism in my life.

[userarefull]

@lSaif ye, in england there are good muslim with good culture, not like in holland where there are marrocans who just learn to hate jews... im not kidding if u want to know...

[lSaif]

@userarefull Oh I see well if thats true then they should not... But I am positive you will be ok in the UK but dont go into estates where the BNP or EDL are they are racists who hate anyone who is not white.

[userarefull]

@lSaif where is BNP and EDL? are those places near city or something? what did u said about them, that they hate white people or they hate people who hate blacks? i think i will go to wigan, maybe, not 100%, i still think... wigan is expensive to live? where are u live bout the way? i dont have any problem to live with muslim, christians, anyone, i just want to live in a good place with good culture u know... i guess like u... u sounds like someone culture.

[lSaif]

@userarefull I live in West Yorkshire, its a really good area especially York. The BMP and EDL mainly live in poor areas but their arent many of those around so just dont go there, they hate ANYONE who is not white and I mean ANYONE... But apart from that your all good!

Wigan is an ok area to go to, not too expensive compared to rest of England so yeah I am sure you will fit in :D

[userarefull]

@lSaif cool, how about england? it is expensive there? i mean u have to be rich to live there? how the life price? like Milk, cheese, Cornflecs... u know, what u buying everyday, is this expensive?

cool, i see yorkshire in the google earth, tell me, does Yorkshire have anything to do with New york in USA?

in BMP and EDL sounds like our orthodox jews in israel who just insult every Non-jewish when he get in their areas...

if u muslim in england, u call arab or just British muslim?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Well comparing it to Israel yes its expensive to live here but if you can get a job which pays around £21,000 a year then you will be ok. Dont move to London because its really hard to begint here, move closer to North of England.

New York and Yorkshire dont really have anything to do with each other lol, Yorkshire is a quite place in England... its more traditional and cheaper then London.

If your a Muslim here you get called Asian as most are asian or British Muslim.

[userarefull]

@lSaif Great pound = 5 shekels or 6?

well my mother here in israel get for a month like 18,000 shekels if u know how much it worth in pounds... if i will work in england in high tech (thats what i want) i think it will be ok... my target is wigan, i heard its pretty cheap there because in london its really expensive, my dad said in england its more cheaper and the job's money is better, thats right, dependent where u live... how old are u and how much u get for a year? do u complain on something

[userarefull]

@lSaif but my mother work like 22 years as a teacher and still get the same.. she work ALL DAY, something like 14 hours a day, how much time can i work to get that money? its almost the same as my mother that work like 22 years and get nothing...

[userarefull]

@lSaif all the other things in england is ok? i mean milk, cheese, what u buy everyday u complain on the price?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Yeah its ok, no one really complains.. apart from petrol which is kinda expensive

[userarefull]

@lSaif how much for a full petrol?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Its about £1.30 (Which is more then 5 shekels) per litre but its a manageable amount.

[userarefull]

@lSaif umm, firstly, how old are u? at what are u working? how do u know what is shekel?

and maybe u know how much it cost for a full petrol?

[lSaif]

@userarefull And also the average price of bottle of Milk where I live is more then 10 shekkels....

[userarefull]

@lSaif i also have in england Airsoft sport, if u know what it is, i LOVE it, and im sure that if i will live there i will play this ALOT and i hope i will meet Scoutthedoggie...

[lSaif]

@userarefull Airsoft? Is it those guns? We normally play paint ball here but yeah I am sure there are airsoft tournaments here.

[userarefull]

@lSaif well, i dont say i will work in england because of airsoft... i just say that when i will be in england and i will have a free time i will play airsoft... did u once played paintball? how is it? is this cost alot? is this hurt? i prefer airsoft because its more realistic, go to airsoft ITS THE BEST

[lSaif]

@userarefull Paintball costs around £50 and yes in England you get plenty of spare time but ofcourse depends on what job your doing.

[userarefull]

@lSaif srry for the late comment, i fixed my computer because call of duty didn't work well...

umm, if i'm on high-tech and i'm knew? i will get something like 1000 pound amonth?

[lSaif]

@userarefull £1000 a month? Uhm... You could probably live off that but you would probably need a flat mate to half the rent, bills and etc with.

[userarefull]

@lSaif well im 15 years so i just say how much i will get... but i think of the future, i dont really want to live in this dirty country israel... everything is so expensive, u get really low price for your job... tell me, does the prices in england are always Rise up or its stay normal? in israel once its was 1 dollar for killo for Cucumber and today its like 2.7 dollar! and believe me, its maybe sounds low prices but its alot!

[lSaif]

@userarefull No no they dont increase that way. The prices are normal and pretty much everything is affordable. It isnt a country where everything is expensive, living here is good :D The average wage here is around £24,000? You will probably start out with £16,000 (If you graduate from College or University) which is enough to live on but most young people tend to live with room mates so their rent and living expenses can be cheaper.

[userarefull]

@lSaif WTF are u talking about? 16,000 euro in the age of like 21 every year? wow this is some good money there, but i dont know if i can go to europe, i mean will i have friends there? i'm a jew and they all christians or muslims... i dont know if i can work there without room mate or something like that... and i want to meet a girlfriend... its ok to marry with christian or muslim u think?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Yeah £16,000 is a good possibility. Muslims only make up around 2% of the population? Christians are high in number (Depends on where you live) but a lot of people are athiests. But trust me, people here dont really care if your Jew, Christian or whatever... If your personality is good they will befriend you.

Its not ok to marry a Muslim... but I am sure you will meet someone nice here :D, maybe talk to a rabbi in England about marriage or something.

[userarefull]

@lSaif why its not ok to marry a muslim? even here in israel there are a couples that they are muslim with jew...

really? there are alot of atheists? i thought almost all of them are christians... like 2% are atheists, my personality is good if they are act ok to me.. i can meet alot of friends , my personality is to meet friends, i have no problem with that, why alot of israelis dont move to europe? because alot there are racists? i still dont understand ourself... only me lol

[userarefull]

@lSaif the muslim people got to europe because the life there is better right? i think we dont move to there because there are alot of racists... lol i still think we are stupid... do u have a favorite soccer game? like manchester, tottenham, liverpool, chelsea, arsenal?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Racism isnt an issue, I have a beard and you can easily tell I am a Muslim and only once in my life did someone make a serious comment against me in a racist manner so dont worry about it :D

Just dont move to run down and deprived areas and you will be ok, I used to know a Jewish person here he used to go to my School and no one was ever racist to him so you will be ok

[userarefull]

@lSaif how my english bout the way?

[userarefull]

@lSaif how old are u anyway?

[lSaif]

@userarefull Not all get better lives, at first it will be difficult but later on it should be ok :) Struggle to strive

Also yes athiests are more like 40% where I live so they make up a very significant chunk of the community. I dont watch soccer so sorry no :( But a lot of people here support Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool and tottenham those are everyone's favourite teams.

[userarefull]

@lSaif lol, here in israel we work hard only to survive... its really difficult life if u dont have a great job... WOW, 40% its alot!! tottenham and chelsea have a jew owner if u didn't know lol... well i heard that in england its the most lowest racism in europe... is it true?

do u have there a jewish schools and muslims schools or its can be mix? can u tell me why the england before like half year said something bad about islam? thats its should go? i just heard it... i want to know why...

[shtirliz1917]

Gilad still alive!!!

From Russia.

[mmordehai]

כולנו איתך... בקרוב בבית

[benjios7]

Happy to see u again as a hope in our grey sky...look tired but was so, so touching

Take care Gilad, we think all to u

[sarutobi75]

I hope you'll be free soon.