I am Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat menance Alex Salmond who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking borders down not creating them , partition the uk?.id rather trust London more than Brussels
the horse has bolted ,you guys used to proclaim to be the loyalist of the loyal and helped the english kill the irish,now that you know they wont shoot at you your all brave.
I have lived 50 years in Scotland , never once thought I was enslaved or living anywhere other than a free country . For me if people want to be "Free " as thye SNP say , why bother with Oil revenues etc Surely Freedom is price less and there is no need for the Higher living standards argument ?
It does not bother me that Oil wealth goes to help those on Benefits in Liverpool of wherever in the UK , its good to help others out .
well said!, I am Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat menance Alex Salmond who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking borders down not creating them , partition the uk?.id rather trust London more than Brussels
Scotland did pretty ok out of the Union. You Scots will rue the day you leave it especially when Westminster starts to turn the tap off. You will find all those luvvvly services begin to go up in price until their just a memory for ordinary people. But bang your drums for independance and jig your jigs. Its the old and the poor that will pay for it.
Why would Scotland cease to be part of the UK energy grid just because it became independent anyway? Canada and the United States are independent of one another, but power flows back and forth across their border as required as though it weren't even there.
Scotland will become like one of these little Balkan bits---just like Slovakia, Croatia, et al. Impoverished and without resources. Dependent on tourism and postage stamps for income. Then of course, maybe the Highlands should secede. After all, it's got a different history from the southern parts. Maybe the Hebrides should go their own way. I'm sure there's good reasons for the independence of the Shetland Islands....
@joe37959 England did not conquer Scotland. There was a union of the crowns--under a SCOTTISH king, by the way--in 1603. A voluntary union of the parliaments came in 1707. That's what's to be undone, returning Great Britain to the 1603 arrangement of two separate countries sharing the same monarch. This is not absurd--it's the exact same relationship countries like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Jamaica currently have with regard to the UK, and each other.
@joe37959 Actually, no. The Union of the Crowns happened because the King of Scots became the King of England, as well (it wasn't the other way around). James VI of Scotland became James I of England when his cousin, Queen Elizabeth I, died. The English and Scottish Parliaments were united with the Act of Union about a century later, in which England and Scotland were, constitutionally, equal partners. England did not conquer Scotland.
this just seems silly to me. You speak the same damn language, and you live in virtually the same place... Why divide up the place and just cause confusion?
I like all the oil rig pictures but north sea oil rightfully belongs to the English and Americans. The jocks signed the rights over because they were too drunk/illiterate to get the oil out themselves. I fully support Independence for Scotland, build a wall at the border and throw the scrounging skag-heads over it! Good fucking riddance!
@RichardElden The King in 1603 was King of Scotland and England.Protestants left for N Ireland years later.And they were not all Scots.Time you actually read a history book.So the N Irish problem,if there is one.Is a joint one between Scotland and England.As it was the Scottish and English King,that ordered them to go there.And your still to tell me the law,that Cameron is meant to have taken to the EU about this.I suggest that you are lying.Even he is not as stupid,to try it.As theres no case.
@RichardElden I know cos he is winning.And he is taking Scotland forward.The thing that you need to accept is.The cult of Salmond,is in your own heads.We are voting for the SNP on policy.He has been the leader before.And was never as popular as he is now.He never even won the election back then.And that shows you,that the SNP is more than just one man.As much as the unionists try to twist things.And lie about the real reason we vote SNP.Saying stuff like its a protest vote.Heard that BS 4 years.
@RichardElden They are paying you silly bitter person.The person that took it to court lost.And rightly so as its not anti English.People pay from all over the world to.Try and vote us out,if you do not like it.You are free to leave the union at any time.Nobody is interested in any sort of English nationalism.And this is why every party that offers this.All lost there deposits at the last election.The only nationalism that the English listen to,sadly is the racist knuckle dragging nazi BNP.
@legandrydirk I'm afraid what you have written is incorrect. The only nationalism the English listen to is NOT the "racist knuckle dragging nazi BNP" (though some do.) Millions of English people vote U.K.I.P. in Euro and other elections. (U.K.I.P also gets a high vote in Wales!) This is hardly suprising, as, according to a BBC poll on the anniversary of the 1707 Union, 73% of those English questioned, believed in the Union. Furthermore, most also want to leave the E.U.
@bossendenwoodconvict UKIP has never been on a counsil.The BNP has in BRADFORD,BURNLEY,MANCHESTER.Your wrong I am right.And you should be ashamed of that,if yoy are English.The BNP has never done or never will do anything in Scotland.They keep on trying and they keep on failing.The latest is they are running in rurial areas.And just like in the big Cities.They are being rejected in large numbers.So much so that they lose there deposits.England should be ashamed for listening to the nazi scumbags
@legandrydirk Not so. U.K.I.P. has councillors in Wales, England and one in N.Ireland.
As for the BNP it does NOT "have Bradford, Burnley and Manchester" it has some councillors there, it certainly isn't in charge of these councils and never will be. Are you trying to impugn all English people on this basis and say they are nazis? It seems you are trying to demonise/shame English people, many of whom have ancestors who were killed by the nazis. That's wrong.
@bossendenwoodconvict BNP has held all those counsels at one time.And for that your right,they should be ashamed.Scots fought the nazi scum to.And you dont see us voting for them ever.And yet English idiots still try and call Scots racists.Away you go with your shame behind you
@legandrydirk Wrong. The BNP have NEVER held those councils. They have never come close to having a majority on those councils. As for U.K.I.P. (who you said have never had a council,) they are running one in Cambridgeshire as the majority of councillors are from U.K.I.P! It is wrong to imply there is something wrong with the English in general because some vote BNP. Likewise, the BNP doing well in The Glasgow North by election should not be held against the Scots in general either.
@bossendenwoodconvict I am from Glasgow North,and the BNP have never done well here.In fact they got the shit kicked out of them self a few years ago in Citehill bye the locals,asian and white alike.Who ever is telling you that they won,is talking shit to you.Glasgow is run bye the SNP in the main.Who took over from Labour is most places.After people said that it could never be done.I know what I am talking about.I have a duty to my for fathers,2 watch what the BNP scum does closely and I do.
@legandrydirk Please pay attention; I didn't say the BNP won, they just did very well. I'm afraid you seem to misunderstand a lot of things and just don't know the facts. You said the BNP have won councils(!) ...they have not. You said U.K.I.P. have never won any...they have. By the way, UKIP's founder came from Glasgow.
@bossendenwoodconvict BNP lost there deposits in Glasgow.I know more about what I am talking about than what you do.I am not interested about were he comes from.His party has no relivence,in the political landscape up here.And they never will do.
@legandrydirk You seem to have some idea about Glasgow,but seem unable to acknowledge that what you have previously written about the BNP is wrong. A simple question: Do you acknowledge the BNP have NEVER won any councils, (ie had a majority of councillors on a council,) yes or no?
@bossendenwoodconvict I am not going to reapeat myself.I have said all that I am saying here.And what I said about the BNP in England and Scotland is true.And the fact that you cant just accept it.Says a lot about your self,that others around you should be concerned about
@legandrydirk Firstly the good news: You have a great future ahead of you...as a politician. The reason is you are unable to answer a question with a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Secondly you wrote: "The BNP has held all those counsels(sic) at one time." Perhaps you really believed it when you wrote it, but it's not true.
@bossendenwoodconvict At one time does not mean being literial,even a moron would understand that.I have no intention to go into politics thanks.I am not even a memeber of the SNP.I am just a ordinary bloke.Who has been around long enough to see,that unionism does nothing for Scotland.I have lived through Thatcher and Blair years.And there all as bad and nasty as each other.Ask the peaple of Ayrshire,about there false promices that they made.Or anybody in Lanarkshire more recently,fuck them all.
@bossendenwoodconvict He wants to take my money,but right now he cant.The bus pass went a few years ago.When the system got changed around.Junkies are still on there pass though.And I cant get one,as I am on low rate money.Hardly used it much when I did have it.Once its gone but,is when you start to miss it.I had free travel all around Scotland with it.Could take me all the way up to the Highlands,with a freind of the bus for free.When things got stressed out at home,it was a money saver for me.
@RichardElden Your telling lies again,would ask you to prove it.You wont though like you have not proved anything else on here.I hope we get a good winter to.We make millions with the tourists coming here to ski.I would like to know the real reason of your hatred.I will never know that as well.All I know is that something has fucked you up along the path off life.For you to be such a hate filled loser.I hope for your own sake,that you can change your life.I doubt you will though somehow.
@RichardElden And other unions have crumbled in Europe more recently.Like in Czeckoslavkia.Hanging on to something that happened over 100 years ago,just shows how desperate you are.Cameron is powerless to stop Scotland coming out of the union.We have our own parliament,to help us.Your not very well educated are you?Only the really poorly educated,thinks that that was all the yank civil war was about.I can see now why 1000 of English do not want a education in there own nation,Now go to fuck.
@RichardElden Cameron is not Lincoln you fool.The American civil war,was fought over the rights of white workers.He never wanted slaves,to spread to other states.As it would take work away from the poor white workers.He was even set to send the slaves to Haiti and Liberia.And it was not till,the end of the war.When he used them in the fight,as he was losing the war.So again dip shit,you are talking shit.In trying to compare that with what is going on right now,Alba will rise again.
@RichardElden There has been a united Ireland.And there can be again.Scotland has also been Independent.And we had a kingdom,long before England did.900 000 SNP voters and rising.You told us we would never have SNP Gov,and they got in and shared.You said the SNP would never gain full power.And it happened in a land slide.The next step forward is a Independent Scotland.And your so powerless to prevent it.How does it feel,2 know U cant affect your precious union?How small does it make U feel?LOL
@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
@RichardElden David Cameron is trying all he can to maintain the EU.
And Salmond has never said what will happen with the EU because it's not even been put to the vote yet and wont happen for years yet until after Scotland is independent, then it will be put to the referendum for the sovereign of Scotland to decide, the Scots themselves.
England will be a diminishing broke backwater and left weaker than Italy with the pound sinking like a stone.
@RichardElden You can't provide proof of fuck all about what Cameron says, I've looked every where and the glorious 'Newsnet Scotland' site gets political news weeks before they are officially published and there's never been a single piece to back up what you say.
Shetland has always been officially part of Scotland.
Plus if you look at the official maritime map you can clearly see exactly how vast Scottish Oil and Gas is and it's all over Scotland, Scotland is a goldmine of vast resources.
@RichardElden The English live off of Scottish resources,
Scotland subsidises the UK treasury,
Scotland is the only nation within the UK that is in surplus,
England can't even balance the books, never mind maintain a surplus like Scotland.
Donald Dewar was a Labour minister, not SNP.
The great Alex Salmond is still going strong and will remain so for a long long long long time yet. And will probably even outlast your dirty Engaylish crumpet arse.
@RichardElden The islanders do not want anything to do with the union.They voted for Jean Urquart and the SNP.So Cameron cant do nothing,even if they wanted Independence.And how can they get that?When at no time in there History,have they ever had it?They have always been part of Scotland.And were only taken bye Norse aggression.Cameron would need 2 give us Berwick and the lake district back if he was to pull that.And its not going to happen,no matter what U say.Scotland will be Indy very soon.
@RichardElden The Shetland islanders have voted for the SNP.The island was taken off Scotland in war.Just like parts of the North of England were taken of Scotland in war.The shetland Independent movement consists of 14 English born ex oil workers.With unionist agenda trying 2 put a spanner in the works of Scottish Independence.Also read the Vikings sagas,it tells you when they invaded the islands.And that they belonged to Scotland.Go up there and find out.I am sure the English will give U a bed
Some idiots are saying that if the UK were to leave the eu they would become nothing more than a pygmy. Ergo what would Scotland become if Salmond has his way?. Sure, he'll try and argue being a member of the eu would negate it be anything more than gnat. But what will happen when the eu collapses, as it surely will in due course?. Don't trust him...
@TheDogonebad Actually we as the people,get a vote if we want to be in the EU.It has already went through in our parlement.And if we reject it,there is always the option of the EFTA.The Norweigans and the Swiss are in it.And both are very rich indeed.We should not trust you more like.As clearly you are talking crap.I bet your not even a Scot.It seems that the English are just as interested in our Independence as we are.Funny that when it has nothing 2 do with them,and are powerless 2 stop SNP.
@legandrydirk Actually its going to be quite funny to see Salmonds face when the majority ( The sane ones ) vote no. This isn't the eu, you won't be given more chances until you get the outcome you desire. In fact I bet there are those in Brussels who back you...Divide and conquer. Nobody needs to stop the SNP...They've already failed. Leave the union...The eu eventually collapses....and you'll come running back soon enough. But as I said, it'll be a NO vote.
@RichardElden Cameron has no mandate to govern anywhere in Scotland, the sovereign who are the Scots wont allow that posh poofy toff Engaylish twat Eton Engaylish schoolboy poof.
@RichardElden Stop saying Scotland needs to take Northern Ireland if we get Independence (get that into your fucking skull). If Scotland gets Independence the United Kingdom will probably just be turned into a smaller Union. If you have been subsidising Scotland for centuries then what's wrong with Independence. What will you loose!. Also the main reason you Unionists wont lets us have Independece is because you are too scared to see the oil money stop rolling in.
@RichardElden Lol, it sounds funny when you think of north as (Scotland) and south as bankrupt (England) it would be funny if it was true, Oh wait it is : >
im pretty sure it will be about 40 years this time considering that more and more people are consuming oil and when it does scotland well lose the main part of its economy
@stevenhaful The day when Scotland breaks away from England I'm pretty sure you guys will loose part of your economy. :) Also if you guys think of us as ''Scroungers'' then why wont you give us Independence if you think we are draining your supplies. Anyway even when the oil runs out in 40 years as you guys want to say we will probably be still the 3rd richest country in Europe.
@DarkShowdownn yes we would loose part of it but scotlands economy would suffer much moreand i doubt england or scotland would be the third richest country in europe if they were seperated and why do you refer to me as the mainstray english im half scottish both countries need eachother to have a big voice in thw world
@stevenhaful 'Big voice' the only voice you here for the 'UK' is England, when ever have you heard the Scottish government speak for the whole 'UK' . Please tell me how Scotland's economy would fail if we split apart from the UK, because last time i heard we would gain more because of oil not being sent down to Westminster. ''25 billion a year to be exact''
@DarkShowdownn and yet these ministers forget everything that england gives to scotland england has always been the wealthier of the two countries so you gain and lose money at the same time and i can't remember where i heard this source but scotlands economic minister said scotland would have an able economy about the size of icelands if it split apart from the uk
@stevenhaful Obviously England is more wealthier, they take our money like i just stated '25 billion a year'. ''i can't remember where i heard this'' tell me a fact not something you can't remember then i might have more interest into what you say. By the way, of all the countries that have broken apart from the UK how many of them have asked to come back, think about that, None.
@DarkShowdownn i never said the word obviously i said historically england has been more wealthier than scotland and has had a bigger say in international affairs, the 25 billion a years is a biased statement as it does not take in to account the amount of money england gives scotland politics can not be simplified as such its always a give and take scenario you have a good point about countries not wanting to come back to the uk however if you had power would you give it up
The Scottish economy would be in tatters if it seperated from the UK most of the oil fields belong to shetland which wants to remain part of the UK and there have been votes on scottish independence in the past which which the majority of scots voted no
@stevenhaful More than 40 years mate, you English said there was only 20 years left in 1980 and now look how much is left. When it runs out it runs out, nothing lasts forever.
Quebec tried to get his independence Twice but Canada did not follow the democratic rule like it supose to be,we loose by less than 50 000 vote 49.5 vs 50,5 ! The population here is 8 millions.don't do the same error has Quebec did! study Quebec post and after referendum of 1995 and be ready to win! Now Quebec population are brain washed by Quebec radio station red neck and we become mentally dependent of Canada without true reason.
Scotland already has its own Parliament is allowed to make its own laws and vote on English laws (but not the reverse), is part of the British military, gets money from Westminster. Why does Scotland need "independence" it's already pretty much independent already.
@aquabumblebee We are not fully independant and every nation should be if they want it. We should be able to control our own destiny and finances without any interference from Westminster.
@CoolCollectableToys I'm not hating on the Scottish independence movement, I just think the debate is interesting but by your logic shouldn't the Shetland Isles be independent from Scotland?
@aquabumblebee if they want it why not ? people should have a right to vote for independence if the majority want it ? But I personally don't think shetland Isles would be able to sustain an economy to keep them independant but who knows ?
@CoolCollectableToys Surely it would be the same for Scotland? if you look at the sea borders they go passed most of the oil fields, they might be able to get a bit from tourism, and does Scotland export anything? (I genuinely don't know, do they?).
@aquabumblebee wool, whiskey, meat such as venison, beef, lamb, water, electronics, textiles and thats just a few. We also have huge natural resources oil, gas, wind, water as mentioned above and more.
The country that is more like Scotland than any other country is Norway and they are doing just fine. Tourisim is ahuge part as well and Scotland has vast potential to capitalise on renewable energies.
the minute scotland get's it's independence i'm going to paint myself white and blue run naked to buckingham palace and throw shit at the palace and whiz over the gates
I am so appauled by the ignorance of the Scottish nationalists, I actually want them to have independence so that they can come back crying to rejoin the union 10 years later. Don't think a bit of oil would make you an economic power. God no. You would be fucked right up the ass, especially once the euro currency is dissolved.
@TheLiberalKnight Please explain how Scottish Nationalists are ignorant? Are they wrong that Scotland has more oil than the rest of the EU combined? Are they wrong that Scotland has 25 percent of Europe's wind and wave power? Are they wrong in saying Scottish unemployment is lower than the UK's? Are they wrong in pointing out that Scotland's key industries like Whisky and telecommunications are growing? Is GERS wrong in saying that Scotland has been in budget surplus for 4 of the past 5 years?
@TheLiberalKnight And why would Scotland want to go rejoin the union? Is Ireland clamoring to come back under British rule? Is Canada? Is New Zealand? Is Australia? Is Singapore? Is South Africa? Is India? Is the USA? No??? That's right, when they became independent they discovered something even more important than self rule. SELF RESPECT. Not that a Brit Nat brought up under the UK class system groomed to love queeny and despise all that's different would understand that.
@neredis1 You, sir, are a historically illiterate fool. Canada/Australia/New Zealand are Britain's greatest allies. You have to ask yourself, if they hate Britain so much, why do two of them keep our flag on their own? Why haven't they already formed republics? The only examples are colonies, so you cannot begin to compare them.
I bet you're a fucking yank. Yanks are always historically retarded idiots. I can't have a conversation with them because they are so stupid.
@TheLiberalKnight Now now language! Did I say Scotland wouldn't be a friend after independence? Scotland would almost certainly be a member of the commonwealth. I personally prefer being a republic but that's my opinion. You can respect your past whilst realising you are better off running your own affairs, that's what Australians et al do. I would also argue that Scotland is treated like colony only with token representation in Westminster
I'm not American, I'm Scottish with English heritage.
@neredis1 You can't claim the moral high ground here, sonny! Scotland was just as much a part of the British empire as England was. Don't accuse us of ruling over foreign lands without mentioning Scotland's massive contribution.
British/Australian relations are the best in the world. We are closer than we are to America. If they thought Britain was 'ruling' them, they would have voted for a republic years ago!
@TheLiberalKnight Oh indeed I agree. It will take many generations of hard work to undo the evil acts we committed under the union. I believe independence is the first step down that road. A fresh start if you will. That doesn't take away from the fact that we were forced into the union through bribery, economic blockade and threats of invasion.
Since you obviously don't know, support for a republic is growing steadily in Australia. It's unlikely they will keep the monarch after Elizabeth dies.
@TheLiberalKnight A quick look at wikipedia (i know, i know. wikipedia...) 'The most recent poll, a survey of 1000 readers of The Sun-Herald and The Sydney Morning Herald, published in The Sydney Morning Herald on 21 November 2010, found 68% of respondents were in favour of Australia becoming a republic, while 25% said it should not.'
@neredis1 One poll. Another poll found that 54% supported the current system whilst 44% supported a republic. And of course, most Australians are not interested in the topic too. The westernized countries have populations that are almost entirely uninterested in politics.
@TheLiberalKnight You know, I think that is a point we have common ground on. It is quite sad how little the western world cares about it's political systems. It makes you wonder what we could end up sleepwalking into.
@neredis1 It is utterly depressing how disengaged most people are with politics. Above all, I feel ashamed that we are a country that boasts democracy and freedom, yet so few people actually use that democratic power in elections, the same power that a Chineseman, for example, would love to use.
On the monarchy topic- there are no strong republican movements in the commonwealth, because it is not a big issue. The most loyal dominion is undoubtably New Zealand though.
@neredis1 Quebec tried to get his independence Twice but Canada did not follow the democratic rule like it supose to be,we loose by less than 50 000 vote 49.5 vs 50,5 ! The population here is 8 millions.don't do the same error has Quebec did! study Quebec post and after referendum of 1995 and be ready to win! Now Quebec population are brain washed by Quebec radio station red neck and we become mentally dependent of Canada without true reason. We are Quebecois not French or Canadian.
The thing is i think both English and Scottish are small hearted and can not forgive one another and so they can not live together like the Germans. Germans were never a unified country until last century. Look at India, it was never a unified country until 1947. But they agreed and now live in peace as a stronger nation with more population and influence. UK would be stronger thank England or Scotland as separate.
Look at the germans. Each of their states were actually different kingdoms run by different monarchies. In the last century they have unified and now Germany is the most populous nation in Western Europe and the most powerful. Why are the British countries so divided, English oppresses and disrespects Scottish, Scottish thinks having some of taxation and defense stipulation from Westminster is like being ruled by England.
Myself wishes no harm to any human being,But I,as one man.am going to exercise my freedom of speech.No human being on the face of the earth,No government is going to take from me my right to speak,My right to protest against a act of the union that was before my existence! My existence is now!! And now i protest against that act! Of which i did not agree to! And with my whole being only except my inheritance of my birth right,My country of birth and for her liberty to be restored!free scots
Myself wishes no harm to any human being,But I,as one man.am going to exercise my freedom of speech.No human being on the face of the earth,No government is going to take from me my right to speak,My right to protest against a act of the union that was before my existence! My existence is now!! And now i protest against that act! Of which i did not agree to! And with my whole being only except my inheritance of my birth right,My country of birth and for her liberty to be restored! Free scots
England are fucked, absolutely fucked, England have been posting massive yearly deficits for a long time now, England last year alone posted a £400Billion debt, and Bank of England leader Mervyn King says it's to get worse, MUCH worse in two years, to the point England will be way behind Scotland, where as Scotland have been in huge safe surplus for years.
Scotland must not be dragged sinking down with England to the sick society that England has become,
@stonecoldmc Saying they don't would be stupid, but the reason English people get frustrated with the argument for Scottish independence is that on our end it looks like part of our tax money goes to a country that wants to be disassociated from us. So essentially it appears to us that our tax money goes towards paying the tuition fees for students in a country that essentially wants nothing to do with us. Whether or not it's completely true, it looks that way, and it makes some people upset.
thats funny because when i was working in edinburgh , all i saw and heard was middle class English students attending their universities . it seems a double standard that you were complaining about paying for " their students " when probably 80% of students (top universities) in scotland are ENGLISH .
@darkstar1345a There seems to have been a misunderstanding here, I'm not criticizing Scotland, and I'm not complaining, I was making a joke that has apparently been misinterpreted. I appreciate things can come across differently in text to how they were meant so I apologise if I have caused offense. I disagree with your statistics though, I would say it's far from 80%. That's irrelevant though since I think (as I said) if Scots want independence, they should have it, for better or worse.
as the statistics were an estimation accepted . but as an english person working as a guest in Scotland i found it suprising that there was not many Scottish students with the majority being English .
we never were officially in recession ,we're only being bleed more than usual you haters ,this why our banks tak a wee tummle ,free scotland even the neds will be driving mercedes while them across the border will be thumbing a lift,shut up about taxes we will pay less when we own our country,we are made of win,10 years from now wait n see who's better than who ,we steal our trade back too ,yous are getting it by the way we dinna ferget
I don’t actually live off welfare from anyone. But aye, sorry, you are right - was thinking in terms of what Scotland voted for and what happened. Have a word with Davey C. and try to persuade him to let us go. Not sure why he’s dead against it; Scots are a pain in the erse to the Tories after all. If we are all on welfare as you say, why are we not first on the Tory cuts list? Oh, that’ll be the industry I work in of course. Oh, and the electricity, whisky exports, tourism... Nice wee earners.
LOL. Last time we helped give England a Labour Government was in 1974! Since then, you can remove the Scots vote/MP's and the election winner is unchanged. We'll do our best for you though. In the end Scots nationalism is just simply about politics; you guys like your Tories and we like our social democrats. Each to their own I say. Cheers, SS.
Hi Richard. I work for the SNP. I'm very impressed with your style and was wondering if you'd be interested in a position on our forthcoming 'YES' to Scots independence campaign? Would be mainly political reviews, editorials etc.
This forces to ask the question - can you supply a convincing factual argument for the United Kingdom, one that does not involve either their own profit or some esoteric “feel good” propaganda?
There is no positive case for this rancid ole' 1707 political construct to remain, it's badly outdated and well passed it's sell by date, it's currently reached a true state of pure rancidness.
This rancid union should really have been put out it's misery in the early 80's.
By estimation, if Scots continue to pay debts to this society inside this Union, you'd need to work almost three full time jobs at an average £29,000 wage per job for the next five years, and basically give the income from two of these jobs to Westminster.
Your annual societal debt to Scotland is around 1/3 of what it would have within the UK next year.
By a reasonable estimation if Scots walk away from this rancid Union, then Scots, personally, should immediately be over £900 a year better off through lowered taxes than today.
If they choose to stay within this Union, of Scotland and England, Scots tax payments from everything that is generated need to increase by over £10,800 per year just to avoid imminent bankruptcy and still keep the services you have today.
@segano1 - You say about Scots getting lower taxes, but I hear nats say they can be just like Norway. Norway is one of the most broadly taxed nations in the world and one of the highest, they also have one of the highest costs of living in the west. They get taxed so highly because their gov won't spend the oil revenues on them as they put it in a fund. If Scotland takes their lead, as they say they will, then surely your welfare will have to be paid by much higer taxes; just like in Norway.
I don't see why England bother trying to keep shitty Scotland and Wales. Nice countries, but what have they ever given to the world? Apart from Haggis and disgusting people.
IMPORTANT! Check out the GERS report that has just been released on the newsnetscotland website! Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK! We are loaded! Read the other article on why Scotland is better off leaving bankrupt Britain! The FACTS are here finally! All the reasons on why we should become independent! If you want to know how to stump a unionist, direct them to this website and you wont hear from them again. I can't see Westminster getting round this! Vote YES in the in the REFERENDUM
I think the rise of scottish nationlism in scotland will have a knock on effect in england and start to make english people question there identity and own independence too!!! The south will see that the scots want to move to there own devolutional path and start to question there own path! English identity has been suppressed for nearly a hundred year due to mass foreign migration into england that they have lost there identity and now come to terms that independence will egnit english national
I support the Scottish independence initiative as much is i do the Welsh. I hear the English complaining about how they don't have a devolved government but I know for certain there is a governing body within England that protects the interests of England and England alone; it's called Westminster.
IMPORTANT! Check out the GERS report that has just been released on the newsnetscotland website! Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK! We are loaded! Read the other article on why Scotland is better off leaving bankrupt Britain! The FACTS are here finally! All the reasons on why we should become independent! If you want to know how to shut up a unionist, direct them to this website and you wont hear from them again. I can't see Westminster getting round this! Vote YES in the in the REFERENDUM
The Separitists!THE SNP...What do they offer? HATE! DIVISION!POVERTY WEAKNESS. RACISIM pure and simple!! DIVIDE the country,SET people agianst each other.Cranks crackpots screwballs they are all of these.But behind the wackieness,behind the videos of mountains, behind the false history, fake culture and shortbreed tin politics Lies thehate of English people and the hate of the unity of the people.s of these islands.Millionares, facists. racists . bigots, champange"socialists"thatstheS.N.P.
OMG! It's the same situation here in Québec! English canada want to scare us with stupid economic argument to try to kill Quebec nationalism, but we shall overcome! Long live free Scotland, long live free Quebec!
I must Highlight another british oversight that if it is really beneficial for scotland to be apart of the uk! Then why is it that the olympic bid was just centered in london??? Is it fair that a profitible avent like the olympics And the all the financial gain be pumped JUST into london? What about scotland taking part in of it or wales?? AGAIN a profitible avent AGAIN has to be london! Why? And if not is that fair in a union of equal advantages? Is it hell! Bring on independence!
Youre point is, does the royal navy not have fleet auxilary and fishing patrol vessel,s as well as frigates and destroyers in it,s surface fleet? oh and by the way the R N doesent have all it,s vessels at sea at any one time ya clown get youre facts right .Scottish always and forever fuck britan.
as a 21 year old airdrie and shotts constituent i feel immensely proud to have lived through the last election, with the nats breaking god knows how many years of labour smothering, emphatically breaking those antiquated shackles! solidarity
@joetavish Nonsense! Everybody knows that the only reason the SNP won is because of the collapse of the LibDem vote and Labour's stupid decision to rely on negative campaigning.
If there is a referendum, and if it passes, there will be one man responsible for Scotland's secession: Nick Clegg.
@BasilFawlty4444 nah man i disagree. i read something a while back, think it was that professor mitchell at strathy uni, that the proportion that moved from lib dem to snp, is roughly the same that moved from labour to the lib dems after iraq.
@BasilFawlty4444 judging from the quotes on your page i think i'd get on well with you. but the truth stands, monopoly labour is hopefully gone in the central belt of scotland.
This video is radical, please explain how all the problems in Scotland are down to England? You'll find its Scottish English MPs making decisions that affect the UK. As for TV and news reporting Scotland highlights what's going on in Scotland. Scotland has STV don't forget. As for being stuck with England games the BBC has not got the right to broadcast Scottish games. Shipyard jobs being denied by EU think you'll find two new super carriers are being built at Strathclyde and all over the UK!
What happens if there is a no vote in the referndum ?? after all the success we've had we can't just go away for another generation. Also anychance there is a yes vote and not accepted by westminster or gerrymanderd like 79 referndum ?
@MrSplashcakes "Also anychance there is a yes vote and not accepted by westminster or gerrymanderd like 79 referndum ?"
Unfortunately such a referendum would be refused because considered "illegal" by Britain laws.
Plus, history has proved that the only way to get something out of english people is through war. (Republic of ireland, new IRA, british colonies etc etc)
To acheive anything you will need to kill people in addition to referendum, sorry for that. Good luck.
I really respect the scots and their culture, and their proudness. But what is wrong with remaining the UK? The UK has such a renown in the world, and people would love to see britain together rather than broken.
@Carruthers1980 when the oil runs out what then ? you may think the english are nobs but think about the futures not now , why stop now when this uk has been working for 300 years i love scottland cuzz im scottish but we need each other , yeah scottland mite get independent but they wont get any were and they will ask to come back :)
The World's Oil is running out anywhere so the future of Scotland is renewable energies
Everyone is saying Scotland will go bankrupt How? Falkland Island they are way smaller than Scotland and they doing fine and there other Smaller Nations are doing fine aswell.
The UK should breakup and get reformed as an alliance so everyone is happy.
We can't keep on Oil it's messing up the enviroment and we would be dependant on Oil Company and that I want off Oil for
@Carruthers1980 Are you actually retarded. How would England on its own be on welfare from Welfare from the EU when the single member state is the UK as a whole. Its actually more like Scotland is on welfare from the rest of the UK actually. I also dont see you wou would want to 'Fuck England', when its mostly english tax payers who bailed out Scottish banks, fund the free tuition, fund the free prescriptions and larger state pensions you seam to enjoy.
@danielpullen ONE OF THE most ignorant posts i have ever read. Have you ever read the GERS report? guess what, the GERS report shows a surplus of cash being generated in scotland compared to what is being spent in it.
and quite frankly those "scottish banks" are about as scottish as scotland yard. And i also love how all the tax revenue from the "scottish banks" are attributed to london the apparent breadbasket of the uk and also how all the debt acquired from them is pushed onto scotland.
Respond to this video... Oh yeah in response to the video there have been 3 referendums on Scottish independence and the majority said NO every time. sums it up really.
I am Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat menance Alex Salmond who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking borders down not creating them , partition the uk?.id rather trust London more than Brussels
powervr250 1 week ago
the horse has bolted ,you guys used to proclaim to be the loyalist of the loyal and helped the english kill the irish,now that you know they wont shoot at you your all brave.
MrFattyfatfatboy 1 week ago
I have lived 50 years in Scotland , never once thought I was enslaved or living anywhere other than a free country . For me if people want to be "Free " as thye SNP say , why bother with Oil revenues etc Surely Freedom is price less and there is no need for the Higher living standards argument ?
It does not bother me that Oil wealth goes to help those on Benefits in Liverpool of wherever in the UK , its good to help others out .
Gommerell 1 week ago
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well said!, I am Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat menance Alex Salmond who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking borders down not creating them , partition the uk?.id rather trust London more than Brussels
powervr250 1 week ago
Christ the Scottish victim mentality is unbearable.
N330AA 1 week ago
Scotland did pretty ok out of the Union. You Scots will rue the day you leave it especially when Westminster starts to turn the tap off. You will find all those luvvvly services begin to go up in price until their just a memory for ordinary people. But bang your drums for independance and jig your jigs. Its the old and the poor that will pay for it.
Volgan16666 2 weeks ago
Why would Scotland cease to be part of the UK energy grid just because it became independent anyway? Canada and the United States are independent of one another, but power flows back and forth across their border as required as though it weren't even there.
PatchesRips 2 weeks ago
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Scotland will become like one of these little Balkan bits---just like Slovakia, Croatia, et al. Impoverished and without resources. Dependent on tourism and postage stamps for income. Then of course, maybe the Highlands should secede. After all, it's got a different history from the southern parts. Maybe the Hebrides should go their own way. I'm sure there's good reasons for the independence of the Shetland Islands....
boy18inva 2 weeks ago
scotland made the union, and now we see low grade MPs in for the kill.
TheLongfords 2 weeks ago
england conquered scotland so england should decide whether scotland should get its independence
joe37959 2 weeks ago
@joe37959 England did not conquer Scotland. There was a union of the crowns--under a SCOTTISH king, by the way--in 1603. A voluntary union of the parliaments came in 1707. That's what's to be undone, returning Great Britain to the 1603 arrangement of two separate countries sharing the same monarch. This is not absurd--it's the exact same relationship countries like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Jamaica currently have with regard to the UK, and each other.
PatchesRips 2 weeks ago
@joe37959 Actually, no. The Union of the Crowns happened because the King of Scots became the King of England, as well (it wasn't the other way around). James VI of Scotland became James I of England when his cousin, Queen Elizabeth I, died. The English and Scottish Parliaments were united with the Act of Union about a century later, in which England and Scotland were, constitutionally, equal partners. England did not conquer Scotland.
histrav 1 week ago
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The trouble with the likes of the BNP, SNP, Plaid, and EDL etc are that they are one-issue parties based on hate.
SNP is thus a wolf in fat toad's clothing. Few of the Scots I know want to leave the Union.
LeamingtonSteve 2 weeks ago
this just seems silly to me. You speak the same damn language, and you live in virtually the same place... Why divide up the place and just cause confusion?
guertinD61 1 month ago
@guertinD61 Indeed. It is totally backward looking, pointless and destructive.
bossendenwoodconvict 1 month ago
I like all the oil rig pictures but north sea oil rightfully belongs to the English and Americans. The jocks signed the rights over because they were too drunk/illiterate to get the oil out themselves. I fully support Independence for Scotland, build a wall at the border and throw the scrounging skag-heads over it! Good fucking riddance!
industrialfun 1 month ago
@RichardElden The King in 1603 was King of Scotland and England.Protestants left for N Ireland years later.And they were not all Scots.Time you actually read a history book.So the N Irish problem,if there is one.Is a joint one between Scotland and England.As it was the Scottish and English King,that ordered them to go there.And your still to tell me the law,that Cameron is meant to have taken to the EU about this.I suggest that you are lying.Even he is not as stupid,to try it.As theres no case.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden I know cos he is winning.And he is taking Scotland forward.The thing that you need to accept is.The cult of Salmond,is in your own heads.We are voting for the SNP on policy.He has been the leader before.And was never as popular as he is now.He never even won the election back then.And that shows you,that the SNP is more than just one man.As much as the unionists try to twist things.And lie about the real reason we vote SNP.Saying stuff like its a protest vote.Heard that BS 4 years.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden They are paying you silly bitter person.The person that took it to court lost.And rightly so as its not anti English.People pay from all over the world to.Try and vote us out,if you do not like it.You are free to leave the union at any time.Nobody is interested in any sort of English nationalism.And this is why every party that offers this.All lost there deposits at the last election.The only nationalism that the English listen to,sadly is the racist knuckle dragging nazi BNP.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk I'm afraid what you have written is incorrect. The only nationalism the English listen to is NOT the "racist knuckle dragging nazi BNP" (though some do.) Millions of English people vote U.K.I.P. in Euro and other elections. (U.K.I.P also gets a high vote in Wales!) This is hardly suprising, as, according to a BBC poll on the anniversary of the 1707 Union, 73% of those English questioned, believed in the Union. Furthermore, most also want to leave the E.U.
bossendenwoodconvict 1 month ago
@bossendenwoodconvict UKIP has never been on a counsil.The BNP has in BRADFORD,BURNLEY,MANCHESTER.Your wrong I am right.And you should be ashamed of that,if yoy are English.The BNP has never done or never will do anything in Scotland.They keep on trying and they keep on failing.The latest is they are running in rurial areas.And just like in the big Cities.They are being rejected in large numbers.So much so that they lose there deposits.England should be ashamed for listening to the nazi scumbags
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk Not so. U.K.I.P. has councillors in Wales, England and one in N.Ireland.
As for the BNP it does NOT "have Bradford, Burnley and Manchester" it has some councillors there, it certainly isn't in charge of these councils and never will be. Are you trying to impugn all English people on this basis and say they are nazis? It seems you are trying to demonise/shame English people, many of whom have ancestors who were killed by the nazis. That's wrong.
bossendenwoodconvict 1 month ago
@bossendenwoodconvict BNP has held all those counsels at one time.And for that your right,they should be ashamed.Scots fought the nazi scum to.And you dont see us voting for them ever.And yet English idiots still try and call Scots racists.Away you go with your shame behind you
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk Wrong. The BNP have NEVER held those councils. They have never come close to having a majority on those councils. As for U.K.I.P. (who you said have never had a council,) they are running one in Cambridgeshire as the majority of councillors are from U.K.I.P! It is wrong to imply there is something wrong with the English in general because some vote BNP. Likewise, the BNP doing well in The Glasgow North by election should not be held against the Scots in general either.
bossendenwoodconvict 1 month ago
@bossendenwoodconvict I am from Glasgow North,and the BNP have never done well here.In fact they got the shit kicked out of them self a few years ago in Citehill bye the locals,asian and white alike.Who ever is telling you that they won,is talking shit to you.Glasgow is run bye the SNP in the main.Who took over from Labour is most places.After people said that it could never be done.I know what I am talking about.I have a duty to my for fathers,2 watch what the BNP scum does closely and I do.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk Please pay attention; I didn't say the BNP won, they just did very well. I'm afraid you seem to misunderstand a lot of things and just don't know the facts. You said the BNP have won councils(!) ...they have not. You said U.K.I.P. have never won any...they have. By the way, UKIP's founder came from Glasgow.
bossendenwoodconvict 4 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict BNP lost there deposits in Glasgow.I know more about what I am talking about than what you do.I am not interested about were he comes from.His party has no relivence,in the political landscape up here.And they never will do.
legandrydirk 4 weeks ago
@legandrydirk You seem to have some idea about Glasgow,but seem unable to acknowledge that what you have previously written about the BNP is wrong. A simple question: Do you acknowledge the BNP have NEVER won any councils, (ie had a majority of councillors on a council,) yes or no?
bossendenwoodconvict 4 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict I am not going to reapeat myself.I have said all that I am saying here.And what I said about the BNP in England and Scotland is true.And the fact that you cant just accept it.Says a lot about your self,that others around you should be concerned about
legandrydirk 4 weeks ago
@legandrydirk So are you saying that the BNP have taken control of some councils?
I just want a yes or no answer, I'm not asking you to repeat yourself.
bossendenwoodconvict 4 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict I gave you the counsels that they have been on
legandrydirk 4 weeks ago
@legandrydirk Firstly the good news: You have a great future ahead of you...as a politician. The reason is you are unable to answer a question with a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Secondly you wrote: "The BNP has held all those counsels(sic) at one time." Perhaps you really believed it when you wrote it, but it's not true.
bossendenwoodconvict 4 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict At one time does not mean being literial,even a moron would understand that.I have no intention to go into politics thanks.I am not even a memeber of the SNP.I am just a ordinary bloke.Who has been around long enough to see,that unionism does nothing for Scotland.I have lived through Thatcher and Blair years.And there all as bad and nasty as each other.Ask the peaple of Ayrshire,about there false promices that they made.Or anybody in Lanarkshire more recently,fuck them all.
legandrydirk 4 weeks ago
@legandrydirk I was just being light-hearted. Politicians don't give straight answers. What is your job by the way?
bossendenwoodconvict 3 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict I cant work down to ill health.Wankers like Cameron would take my money though.The cunts already took my free bus pass
legandrydirk 3 weeks ago
@legandrydirk Sorry to hear that mate. I didn't vote for Cameron though.
bossendenwoodconvict 3 weeks ago
@bossendenwoodconvict He wants to take my money,but right now he cant.The bus pass went a few years ago.When the system got changed around.Junkies are still on there pass though.And I cant get one,as I am on low rate money.Hardly used it much when I did have it.Once its gone but,is when you start to miss it.I had free travel all around Scotland with it.Could take me all the way up to the Highlands,with a freind of the bus for free.When things got stressed out at home,it was a money saver for me.
legandrydirk 3 weeks ago
@RichardElden Your telling lies again,would ask you to prove it.You wont though like you have not proved anything else on here.I hope we get a good winter to.We make millions with the tourists coming here to ski.I would like to know the real reason of your hatred.I will never know that as well.All I know is that something has fucked you up along the path off life.For you to be such a hate filled loser.I hope for your own sake,that you can change your life.I doubt you will though somehow.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden And other unions have crumbled in Europe more recently.Like in Czeckoslavkia.Hanging on to something that happened over 100 years ago,just shows how desperate you are.Cameron is powerless to stop Scotland coming out of the union.We have our own parliament,to help us.Your not very well educated are you?Only the really poorly educated,thinks that that was all the yank civil war was about.I can see now why 1000 of English do not want a education in there own nation,Now go to fuck.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Cameron is not Lincoln you fool.The American civil war,was fought over the rights of white workers.He never wanted slaves,to spread to other states.As it would take work away from the poor white workers.He was even set to send the slaves to Haiti and Liberia.And it was not till,the end of the war.When he used them in the fight,as he was losing the war.So again dip shit,you are talking shit.In trying to compare that with what is going on right now,Alba will rise again.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden There has been a united Ireland.And there can be again.Scotland has also been Independent.And we had a kingdom,long before England did.900 000 SNP voters and rising.You told us we would never have SNP Gov,and they got in and shared.You said the SNP would never gain full power.And it happened in a land slide.The next step forward is a Independent Scotland.And your so powerless to prevent it.How does it feel,2 know U cant affect your precious union?How small does it make U feel?LOL
legandrydirk 1 month ago
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@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
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@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Why N Ireland is British,and would remain part of Britain.Till the point that they ever voted to be a unified Ireland.And that would need to be accepted in the south.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden David Cameron is trying all he can to maintain the EU.
And Salmond has never said what will happen with the EU because it's not even been put to the vote yet and wont happen for years yet until after Scotland is independent, then it will be put to the referendum for the sovereign of Scotland to decide, the Scots themselves.
England will be a diminishing broke backwater and left weaker than Italy with the pound sinking like a stone.
Scotland will hae one o the hardest currencies
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden You can't provide proof of fuck all about what Cameron says, I've looked every where and the glorious 'Newsnet Scotland' site gets political news weeks before they are officially published and there's never been a single piece to back up what you say.
Shetland has always been officially part of Scotland.
Plus if you look at the official maritime map you can clearly see exactly how vast Scottish Oil and Gas is and it's all over Scotland, Scotland is a goldmine of vast resources.
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden The English live off of Scottish resources,
Scotland subsidises the UK treasury,
Scotland is the only nation within the UK that is in surplus,
England can't even balance the books, never mind maintain a surplus like Scotland.
Donald Dewar was a Labour minister, not SNP.
The great Alex Salmond is still going strong and will remain so for a long long long long time yet. And will probably even outlast your dirty Engaylish crumpet arse.
Haven't you noticed how no one likes Engayland?
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden Faur's the proof? Yi've no got ony fuckin' proof ye dirty fuckin' Cunt!
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden The islanders do not want anything to do with the union.They voted for Jean Urquart and the SNP.So Cameron cant do nothing,even if they wanted Independence.And how can they get that?When at no time in there History,have they ever had it?They have always been part of Scotland.And were only taken bye Norse aggression.Cameron would need 2 give us Berwick and the lake district back if he was to pull that.And its not going to happen,no matter what U say.Scotland will be Indy very soon.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The Shetland islanders have voted for the SNP.The island was taken off Scotland in war.Just like parts of the North of England were taken of Scotland in war.The shetland Independent movement consists of 14 English born ex oil workers.With unionist agenda trying 2 put a spanner in the works of Scottish Independence.Also read the Vikings sagas,it tells you when they invaded the islands.And that they belonged to Scotland.Go up there and find out.I am sure the English will give U a bed
legandrydirk 1 month ago
Some idiots are saying that if the UK were to leave the eu they would become nothing more than a pygmy. Ergo what would Scotland become if Salmond has his way?. Sure, he'll try and argue being a member of the eu would negate it be anything more than gnat. But what will happen when the eu collapses, as it surely will in due course?. Don't trust him...
TheDogonebad 1 month ago
@TheDogonebad Actually we as the people,get a vote if we want to be in the EU.It has already went through in our parlement.And if we reject it,there is always the option of the EFTA.The Norweigans and the Swiss are in it.And both are very rich indeed.We should not trust you more like.As clearly you are talking crap.I bet your not even a Scot.It seems that the English are just as interested in our Independence as we are.Funny that when it has nothing 2 do with them,and are powerless 2 stop SNP.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk Actually its going to be quite funny to see Salmonds face when the majority ( The sane ones ) vote no. This isn't the eu, you won't be given more chances until you get the outcome you desire. In fact I bet there are those in Brussels who back you...Divide and conquer. Nobody needs to stop the SNP...They've already failed. Leave the union...The eu eventually collapses....and you'll come running back soon enough. But as I said, it'll be a NO vote.
TheDogonebad 1 month ago
@TheDogonebad
That's what you dumb cunts said about the Scots parliament.
That's what you said about about devolution.
That's what you said about the SNP getting in the Scots parliament.
That's what you said about the SNP getting an outright majority in the Scots parliament.
And behold,....the shock on all you cunts faces when all these things did happen!
The same's set to happen again come independence.
Scotland subsidises the UK treasury.
Scotland's the only nation in the UK in surplus.
segano1 1 month ago
@TheDogonebad Nobody will come running back to the union, once it goes, it's gone,
for good, name one nation that has ever wanted anything to do with England once they've severed ties?
Scotland's not the same country as England (thank God) so it's not divide & conquer, it's not balkanisation.
Your leader David Cameron is the only one wanting the EU to remain and doing everything to keep it going.
Scotland don't give a fuck about the EU much, it'll be decided by Scots after independence.
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden Cameron has no mandate to govern anywhere in Scotland, the sovereign who are the Scots wont allow that posh poofy toff Engaylish twat Eton Engaylish schoolboy poof.
Where's your cited source to prove otherwise?
segano1 1 month ago
@RichardElden I'm just going to stop talking to you because you are just to be honest Retarded.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@RichardElden Stop saying Scotland needs to take Northern Ireland if we get Independence (get that into your fucking skull). If Scotland gets Independence the United Kingdom will probably just be turned into a smaller Union. If you have been subsidising Scotland for centuries then what's wrong with Independence. What will you loose!. Also the main reason you Unionists wont lets us have Independece is because you are too scared to see the oil money stop rolling in.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@RichardElden Lol, it sounds funny when you think of north as (Scotland) and south as bankrupt (England) it would be funny if it was true, Oh wait it is : >
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@RichardElden You mean the West with the East...
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@RichardElden I'm pretty sure if Scotland gets Inedependence Northern Ireland will go to Ireland not Scotland you idiot.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
Yes England will!!!, They thought a bloody war for about 40 years to keep Northern Ireland. Ever heard of ''Bloody Sunday'' or the ''IRA''??
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
England=Britain
Euphemism
desquitao 1 month ago
Scottish out of British!
desquitao 1 month ago
@RichardElden What the hell are you on about?? why would Scotland need to take Northern Ireland?, don't you mean Ireland?.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
The scots are the bitches of Her majesty ;(
hummer8384 1 month ago
@hummer8384 Good thing we are trying to get Independence then :D
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
im pretty sure it will be about 40 years this time considering that more and more people are consuming oil and when it does scotland well lose the main part of its economy
stevenhaful 1 month ago
@stevenhaful The day when Scotland breaks away from England I'm pretty sure you guys will loose part of your economy. :) Also if you guys think of us as ''Scroungers'' then why wont you give us Independence if you think we are draining your supplies. Anyway even when the oil runs out in 40 years as you guys want to say we will probably be still the 3rd richest country in Europe.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@DarkShowdownn yes we would loose part of it but scotlands economy would suffer much moreand i doubt england or scotland would be the third richest country in europe if they were seperated and why do you refer to me as the mainstray english im half scottish both countries need eachother to have a big voice in thw world
stevenhaful 1 month ago
@stevenhaful 'Big voice' the only voice you here for the 'UK' is England, when ever have you heard the Scottish government speak for the whole 'UK' . Please tell me how Scotland's economy would fail if we split apart from the UK, because last time i heard we would gain more because of oil not being sent down to Westminster. ''25 billion a year to be exact''
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@DarkShowdownn and yet these ministers forget everything that england gives to scotland england has always been the wealthier of the two countries so you gain and lose money at the same time and i can't remember where i heard this source but scotlands economic minister said scotland would have an able economy about the size of icelands if it split apart from the uk
stevenhaful 1 month ago
@stevenhaful Obviously England is more wealthier, they take our money like i just stated '25 billion a year'. ''i can't remember where i heard this'' tell me a fact not something you can't remember then i might have more interest into what you say. By the way, of all the countries that have broken apart from the UK how many of them have asked to come back, think about that, None.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
@DarkShowdownn i never said the word obviously i said historically england has been more wealthier than scotland and has had a bigger say in international affairs, the 25 billion a years is a biased statement as it does not take in to account the amount of money england gives scotland politics can not be simplified as such its always a give and take scenario you have a good point about countries not wanting to come back to the uk however if you had power would you give it up
stevenhaful 1 month ago
INDEPENDENCE FOR SCOTLAND ? YES 100%
CoolCollectableToys 2 months ago
Yes! The Scottish curlers are the only ones in the world nearly good enough to beat Canadians! :)
PatchesRips 2 months ago
The Scottish economy would be in tatters if it seperated from the UK most of the oil fields belong to shetland which wants to remain part of the UK and there have been votes on scottish independence in the past which which the majority of scots voted no
stevenhaful 2 months ago
@stevenhaful Yeah mate, well Shetland is part of Scotland so if we Scot's get Independence we get the oil. Deal with it.
DarkShowdownn 2 months ago
@DarkShowdownn but shetland supports the union so it would also be up to debate for the UN
stevenhaful 2 months ago
@stevenhaful No 'Buts', Shetland is part of Scotland so the UN can't decide what happens to it only Scotland can.
DarkShowdownn 2 months ago
@DarkShowdownn ok so say even if shetland stays part of scotland you will have 40 years worth of oild and then what
stevenhaful 2 months ago
@stevenhaful More than 40 years mate, you English said there was only 20 years left in 1980 and now look how much is left. When it runs out it runs out, nothing lasts forever.
DarkShowdownn 1 month ago
Quebec tried to get his independence Twice but Canada did not follow the democratic rule like it supose to be,we loose by less than 50 000 vote 49.5 vs 50,5 ! The population here is 8 millions.don't do the same error has Quebec did! study Quebec post and after referendum of 1995 and be ready to win! Now Quebec population are brain washed by Quebec radio station red neck and we become mentally dependent of Canada without true reason.
spectreduloft 3 months ago
Scotland already has its own Parliament is allowed to make its own laws and vote on English laws (but not the reverse), is part of the British military, gets money from Westminster. Why does Scotland need "independence" it's already pretty much independent already.
aquabumblebee 3 months ago
@aquabumblebee We are not fully independant and every nation should be if they want it. We should be able to control our own destiny and finances without any interference from Westminster.
CoolCollectableToys 2 months ago
@CoolCollectableToys I'm not hating on the Scottish independence movement, I just think the debate is interesting but by your logic shouldn't the Shetland Isles be independent from Scotland?
aquabumblebee 2 months ago
@aquabumblebee if they want it why not ? people should have a right to vote for independence if the majority want it ? But I personally don't think shetland Isles would be able to sustain an economy to keep them independant but who knows ?
CoolCollectableToys 2 months ago
@CoolCollectableToys Surely it would be the same for Scotland? if you look at the sea borders they go passed most of the oil fields, they might be able to get a bit from tourism, and does Scotland export anything? (I genuinely don't know, do they?).
aquabumblebee 2 months ago
@aquabumblebee wool, whiskey, meat such as venison, beef, lamb, water, electronics, textiles and thats just a few. We also have huge natural resources oil, gas, wind, water as mentioned above and more.
The country that is more like Scotland than any other country is Norway and they are doing just fine. Tourisim is ahuge part as well and Scotland has vast potential to capitalise on renewable energies.
CoolCollectableToys 1 month ago
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the North Sea Oil belongs to the Shetland Isles you thieving Scottish CUNTS.
Independence for Shetlands!!!!!!
slothgoonies 3 months ago
the minute scotland get's it's independence i'm going to paint myself white and blue run naked to buckingham palace and throw shit at the palace and whiz over the gates
weeguymo 3 months ago
If Scotland becomes independent (it should), I may be moving there one day. I love Scotland.
I wish you luck from Finland :)
tontsa911 3 months ago
I am so appauled by the ignorance of the Scottish nationalists, I actually want them to have independence so that they can come back crying to rejoin the union 10 years later. Don't think a bit of oil would make you an economic power. God no. You would be fucked right up the ass, especially once the euro currency is dissolved.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Please explain how Scottish Nationalists are ignorant? Are they wrong that Scotland has more oil than the rest of the EU combined? Are they wrong that Scotland has 25 percent of Europe's wind and wave power? Are they wrong in saying Scottish unemployment is lower than the UK's? Are they wrong in pointing out that Scotland's key industries like Whisky and telecommunications are growing? Is GERS wrong in saying that Scotland has been in budget surplus for 4 of the past 5 years?
neredis1 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight And why would Scotland want to go rejoin the union? Is Ireland clamoring to come back under British rule? Is Canada? Is New Zealand? Is Australia? Is Singapore? Is South Africa? Is India? Is the USA? No??? That's right, when they became independent they discovered something even more important than self rule. SELF RESPECT. Not that a Brit Nat brought up under the UK class system groomed to love queeny and despise all that's different would understand that.
neredis1 3 months ago
@neredis1 You, sir, are a historically illiterate fool. Canada/Australia/New Zealand are Britain's greatest allies. You have to ask yourself, if they hate Britain so much, why do two of them keep our flag on their own? Why haven't they already formed republics? The only examples are colonies, so you cannot begin to compare them.
I bet you're a fucking yank. Yanks are always historically retarded idiots. I can't have a conversation with them because they are so stupid.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Now now language! Did I say Scotland wouldn't be a friend after independence? Scotland would almost certainly be a member of the commonwealth. I personally prefer being a republic but that's my opinion. You can respect your past whilst realising you are better off running your own affairs, that's what Australians et al do. I would also argue that Scotland is treated like colony only with token representation in Westminster
I'm not American, I'm Scottish with English heritage.
neredis1 3 months ago
@neredis1 You can't claim the moral high ground here, sonny! Scotland was just as much a part of the British empire as England was. Don't accuse us of ruling over foreign lands without mentioning Scotland's massive contribution.
British/Australian relations are the best in the world. We are closer than we are to America. If they thought Britain was 'ruling' them, they would have voted for a republic years ago!
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Oh indeed I agree. It will take many generations of hard work to undo the evil acts we committed under the union. I believe independence is the first step down that road. A fresh start if you will. That doesn't take away from the fact that we were forced into the union through bribery, economic blockade and threats of invasion.
Since you obviously don't know, support for a republic is growing steadily in Australia. It's unlikely they will keep the monarch after Elizabeth dies.
neredis1 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight A quick look at wikipedia (i know, i know. wikipedia...) 'The most recent poll, a survey of 1000 readers of The Sun-Herald and The Sydney Morning Herald, published in The Sydney Morning Herald on 21 November 2010, found 68% of respondents were in favour of Australia becoming a republic, while 25% said it should not.'
neredis1 3 months ago
@neredis1 One poll. Another poll found that 54% supported the current system whilst 44% supported a republic. And of course, most Australians are not interested in the topic too. The westernized countries have populations that are almost entirely uninterested in politics.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight You know, I think that is a point we have common ground on. It is quite sad how little the western world cares about it's political systems. It makes you wonder what we could end up sleepwalking into.
neredis1 3 months ago
@neredis1 It is utterly depressing how disengaged most people are with politics. Above all, I feel ashamed that we are a country that boasts democracy and freedom, yet so few people actually use that democratic power in elections, the same power that a Chineseman, for example, would love to use.
On the monarchy topic- there are no strong republican movements in the commonwealth, because it is not a big issue. The most loyal dominion is undoubtably New Zealand though.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@neredis1 Quebec tried to get his independence Twice but Canada did not follow the democratic rule like it supose to be,we loose by less than 50 000 vote 49.5 vs 50,5 ! The population here is 8 millions.don't do the same error has Quebec did! study Quebec post and after referendum of 1995 and be ready to win! Now Quebec population are brain washed by Quebec radio station red neck and we become mentally dependent of Canada without true reason. We are Quebecois not French or Canadian.
spectreduloft 3 months ago
The thing is i think both English and Scottish are small hearted and can not forgive one another and so they can not live together like the Germans. Germans were never a unified country until last century. Look at India, it was never a unified country until 1947. But they agreed and now live in peace as a stronger nation with more population and influence. UK would be stronger thank England or Scotland as separate.
farabirview 3 months ago
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Look at the germans. Each of their states were actually different kingdoms run by different monarchies. In the last century they have unified and now Germany is the most populous nation in Western Europe and the most powerful. Why are the British countries so divided, English oppresses and disrespects Scottish, Scottish thinks having some of taxation and defense stipulation from Westminster is like being ruled by England.
farabirview 3 months ago
Myself wishes no harm to any human being,But I,as one man.am going to exercise my freedom of speech.No human being on the face of the earth,No government is going to take from me my right to speak,My right to protest against a act of the union that was before my existence! My existence is now!! And now i protest against that act! Of which i did not agree to! And with my whole being only except my inheritance of my birth right,My country of birth and for her liberty to be restored!free scots
Alastairbell 3 months ago
Myself wishes no harm to any human being,But I,as one man.am going to exercise my freedom of speech.No human being on the face of the earth,No government is going to take from me my right to speak,My right to protest against a act of the union that was before my existence! My existence is now!! And now i protest against that act! Of which i did not agree to! And with my whole being only except my inheritance of my birth right,My country of birth and for her liberty to be restored! Free scots
Alastairbell 3 months ago
Check the excellent 'Newsnet Scotland' site for the truth daily about what's really going on,
don't be fooled by the unionist bullshitting propagandists, never take a unionists word for it.
Calengela 4 months ago
England are fucked, absolutely fucked, England have been posting massive yearly deficits for a long time now, England last year alone posted a £400Billion debt, and Bank of England leader Mervyn King says it's to get worse, MUCH worse in two years, to the point England will be way behind Scotland, where as Scotland have been in huge safe surplus for years.
Scotland must not be dragged sinking down with England to the sick society that England has become,
Vote YES for Scottish independence!!.
Calengela 4 months ago
If they want independence, they should have it, I don't see the problem. Means we won't have to pay for their student's to go to university :P
KidRiviera 4 months ago
@KidRiviera thats only true if you believe no one in Scotland pays any tax whatsoever.
stonecoldmc 4 months ago
@stonecoldmc Saying they don't would be stupid, but the reason English people get frustrated with the argument for Scottish independence is that on our end it looks like part of our tax money goes to a country that wants to be disassociated from us. So essentially it appears to us that our tax money goes towards paying the tuition fees for students in a country that essentially wants nothing to do with us. Whether or not it's completely true, it looks that way, and it makes some people upset.
KidRiviera 4 months ago
@KidRiviera
thats funny because when i was working in edinburgh , all i saw and heard was middle class English students attending their universities . it seems a double standard that you were complaining about paying for " their students " when probably 80% of students (top universities) in scotland are ENGLISH .
darkstar1345a 4 months ago
@darkstar1345a There seems to have been a misunderstanding here, I'm not criticizing Scotland, and I'm not complaining, I was making a joke that has apparently been misinterpreted. I appreciate things can come across differently in text to how they were meant so I apologise if I have caused offense. I disagree with your statistics though, I would say it's far from 80%. That's irrelevant though since I think (as I said) if Scots want independence, they should have it, for better or worse.
philbateman1989 4 months ago
@philbateman1989
as the statistics were an estimation accepted . but as an english person working as a guest in Scotland i found it suprising that there was not many Scottish students with the majority being English .
darkstar1345a 4 months ago
we never were officially in recession ,we're only being bleed more than usual you haters ,this why our banks tak a wee tummle ,free scotland even the neds will be driving mercedes while them across the border will be thumbing a lift,shut up about taxes we will pay less when we own our country,we are made of win,10 years from now wait n see who's better than who ,we steal our trade back too ,yous are getting it by the way we dinna ferget
feckatroll 5 months ago
Scotland - you're welcome to independence. But you can take the Scottish Bank debts with you. Oh not so keen now are you.
drk2aps 5 months ago
I don’t actually live off welfare from anyone. But aye, sorry, you are right - was thinking in terms of what Scotland voted for and what happened. Have a word with Davey C. and try to persuade him to let us go. Not sure why he’s dead against it; Scots are a pain in the erse to the Tories after all. If we are all on welfare as you say, why are we not first on the Tory cuts list? Oh, that’ll be the industry I work in of course. Oh, and the electricity, whisky exports, tourism... Nice wee earners.
scotsskier 5 months ago
@RichardElden
LOL. Last time we helped give England a Labour Government was in 1974! Since then, you can remove the Scots vote/MP's and the election winner is unchanged. We'll do our best for you though. In the end Scots nationalism is just simply about politics; you guys like your Tories and we like our social democrats. Each to their own I say. Cheers, SS.
scotsskier 5 months ago
@RichardElden
Hi Richard. I work for the SNP. I'm very impressed with your style and was wondering if you'd be interested in a position on our forthcoming 'YES' to Scots independence campaign? Would be mainly political reviews, editorials etc.
Get in touch. We should talk. Cheers, SS.
scotsskier 5 months ago
This forces to ask the question - can you supply a convincing factual argument for the United Kingdom, one that does not involve either their own profit or some esoteric “feel good” propaganda?
There is no positive case for this rancid ole' 1707 political construct to remain, it's badly outdated and well passed it's sell by date, it's currently reached a true state of pure rancidness.
This rancid union should really have been put out it's misery in the early 80's.
segano1 6 months ago
By estimation, if Scots continue to pay debts to this society inside this Union, you'd need to work almost three full time jobs at an average £29,000 wage per job for the next five years, and basically give the income from two of these jobs to Westminster.
Your annual societal debt to Scotland is around 1/3 of what it would have within the UK next year.
segano1 6 months ago
By a reasonable estimation if Scots walk away from this rancid Union, then Scots, personally, should immediately be over £900 a year better off through lowered taxes than today.
If they choose to stay within this Union, of Scotland and England, Scots tax payments from everything that is generated need to increase by over £10,800 per year just to avoid imminent bankruptcy and still keep the services you have today.
segano1 6 months ago
@segano1 - You say about Scots getting lower taxes, but I hear nats say they can be just like Norway. Norway is one of the most broadly taxed nations in the world and one of the highest, they also have one of the highest costs of living in the west. They get taxed so highly because their gov won't spend the oil revenues on them as they put it in a fund. If Scotland takes their lead, as they say they will, then surely your welfare will have to be paid by much higer taxes; just like in Norway.
dontbothertoreadthis 5 months ago
this video is full of shit.
TheBestMilkku 6 months ago
I don't see why England bother trying to keep shitty Scotland and Wales. Nice countries, but what have they ever given to the world? Apart from Haggis and disgusting people.
YouAreHereification 6 months ago
@YouAreHereification LOL Wonderfully eloquent argument for the need to free ourselves from England. Thanks!
krackersdave 6 months ago
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IMPORTANT! Check out the GERS report that has just been released on the newsnetscotland website! Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK! We are loaded! Read the other article on why Scotland is better off leaving bankrupt Britain! The FACTS are here finally! All the reasons on why we should become independent! If you want to know how to stump a unionist, direct them to this website and you wont hear from them again. I can't see Westminster getting round this! Vote YES in the in the REFERENDUM
mrkjames9 6 months ago
I think the rise of scottish nationlism in scotland will have a knock on effect in england and start to make english people question there identity and own independence too!!! The south will see that the scots want to move to there own devolutional path and start to question there own path! English identity has been suppressed for nearly a hundred year due to mass foreign migration into england that they have lost there identity and now come to terms that independence will egnit english national
Alastairbell 6 months ago
I support the Scottish independence initiative as much is i do the Welsh. I hear the English complaining about how they don't have a devolved government but I know for certain there is a governing body within England that protects the interests of England and England alone; it's called Westminster.
dudsisfake 6 months ago
Scotland, England, Ireland, Wales. Same place different accents. Play nice and share your shitty little island.
jayworthenwhoa 6 months ago
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IMPORTANT! Check out the GERS report that has just been released on the newsnetscotland website! Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK! We are loaded! Read the other article on why Scotland is better off leaving bankrupt Britain! The FACTS are here finally! All the reasons on why we should become independent! If you want to know how to shut up a unionist, direct them to this website and you wont hear from them again. I can't see Westminster getting round this! Vote YES in the in the REFERENDUM
mrkjames9 7 months ago
Time to smash the shackles of the union.
Bloodlovefreak 7 months ago
The Separitists!THE SNP...What do they offer? HATE! DIVISION!POVERTY WEAKNESS. RACISIM pure and simple!! DIVIDE the country,SET people agianst each other.Cranks crackpots screwballs they are all of these.But behind the wackieness,behind the videos of mountains, behind the false history, fake culture and shortbreed tin politics Lies thehate of English people and the hate of the unity of the people.s of these islands.Millionares, facists. racists . bigots, champange"socialists"thatstheS.N.P.
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
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@NOVATICANWARS LOL Keep spinning the lies you British Nationalist...
krackersdave 6 months ago
OMG! It's the same situation here in Québec! English canada want to scare us with stupid economic argument to try to kill Quebec nationalism, but we shall overcome! Long live free Scotland, long live free Quebec!
tut238 7 months ago
Britannia hasent ruled for 60 years ,where have you been hiding all that time?,a fuckin cave.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
I must Highlight another british oversight that if it is really beneficial for scotland to be apart of the uk! Then why is it that the olympic bid was just centered in london??? Is it fair that a profitible avent like the olympics And the all the financial gain be pumped JUST into london? What about scotland taking part in of it or wales?? AGAIN a profitible avent AGAIN has to be london! Why? And if not is that fair in a union of equal advantages? Is it hell! Bring on independence!
Alastairbell 7 months ago
Youre point is, does the royal navy not have fleet auxilary and fishing patrol vessel,s as well as frigates and destroyers in it,s surface fleet? oh and by the way the R N doesent have all it,s vessels at sea at any one time ya clown get youre facts right .Scottish always and forever fuck britan.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
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ddm3542 8 months ago
Anyone know why NEWSNET SCOTLAND is "down"?
TheGd1314 8 months ago
as a 21 year old airdrie and shotts constituent i feel immensely proud to have lived through the last election, with the nats breaking god knows how many years of labour smothering, emphatically breaking those antiquated shackles! solidarity
joetavish 8 months ago
@joetavish Nonsense! Everybody knows that the only reason the SNP won is because of the collapse of the LibDem vote and Labour's stupid decision to rely on negative campaigning.
If there is a referendum, and if it passes, there will be one man responsible for Scotland's secession: Nick Clegg.
BasilFawlty4444 7 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 aye man cause there's a fucking massive lib dem vote in airdrie to swing the outcome
joetavish 7 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 nah man i disagree. i read something a while back, think it was that professor mitchell at strathy uni, that the proportion that moved from lib dem to snp, is roughly the same that moved from labour to the lib dems after iraq.
joetavish 1 month ago
@BasilFawlty4444 judging from the quotes on your page i think i'd get on well with you. but the truth stands, monopoly labour is hopefully gone in the central belt of scotland.
joetavish 1 month ago
This video is radical, please explain how all the problems in Scotland are down to England? You'll find its Scottish English MPs making decisions that affect the UK. As for TV and news reporting Scotland highlights what's going on in Scotland. Scotland has STV don't forget. As for being stuck with England games the BBC has not got the right to broadcast Scottish games. Shipyard jobs being denied by EU think you'll find two new super carriers are being built at Strathclyde and all over the UK!
1A157 8 months ago
What happens if there is a no vote in the referndum ?? after all the success we've had we can't just go away for another generation. Also anychance there is a yes vote and not accepted by westminster or gerrymanderd like 79 referndum ?
MrSplashcakes 8 months ago
@MrSplashcakes "Also anychance there is a yes vote and not accepted by westminster or gerrymanderd like 79 referndum ?"
Unfortunately such a referendum would be refused because considered "illegal" by Britain laws.
Plus, history has proved that the only way to get something out of english people is through war. (Republic of ireland, new IRA, british colonies etc etc)
To acheive anything you will need to kill people in addition to referendum, sorry for that. Good luck.
niksarass 8 months ago
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Scottish people do not miss this brilliant chance!
bergenstation 8 months ago
Do not let british fool you! You know they are the masters of lying.
bergenstation 8 months ago 17
@bergenstation And do not comment on Scottish videos you Arabic immigrant in Denmark.
Peppepoppldoppl 4 months ago
@Peppepoppldoppl Says the man from the 'Faroe Islands', that comment is contradictory.
Calengela 4 months ago
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@Calengela What makes you think I am from the Faroe Islands?
Peppepoppldoppl 3 months ago
@Calengela The Faroe Islands are the Faroe Islands. Denmark is Denmark, what makes it contradictory?
Peppepoppldoppl 3 months ago
Free Scotland!
bergenstation 8 months ago 2
And isn't Scotland already independent, other than defence.
farabirview 8 months ago
I really respect the scots and their culture, and their proudness. But what is wrong with remaining the UK? The UK has such a renown in the world, and people would love to see britain together rather than broken.
farabirview 8 months ago
@RichardElden
The North Sea Oil belongs to Scotland because it's in Scottish Waters
The English are on Welfare from the EU
People in England don't work either
Stop spouting out because you don't know the facts so this my last message to you, you are just a fucking flaming prick
GO SCOTLAND.........FUCK ENGLAND
Carruthers1980 8 months ago 32
@Carruthers1980 when the oil runs out what then ? you may think the english are nobs but think about the futures not now , why stop now when this uk has been working for 300 years i love scottland cuzz im scottish but we need each other , yeah scottland mite get independent but they wont get any were and they will ask to come back :)
cameronnufc 8 months ago
@cameronnufc
The World's Oil is running out anywhere so the future of Scotland is renewable energies
Everyone is saying Scotland will go bankrupt How? Falkland Island they are way smaller than Scotland and they doing fine and there other Smaller Nations are doing fine aswell.
The UK should breakup and get reformed as an alliance so everyone is happy.
We can't keep on Oil it's messing up the enviroment and we would be dependant on Oil Company and that I want off Oil for
Carruthers1980 8 months ago
@Carruthers1980 You are an anti English Wanker,and thats why Nationalists will never get there way.Rule Britannia.
YARROWS 7 months ago
@Carruthers1980 Are you actually retarded. How would England on its own be on welfare from Welfare from the EU when the single member state is the UK as a whole. Its actually more like Scotland is on welfare from the rest of the UK actually. I also dont see you wou would want to 'Fuck England', when its mostly english tax payers who bailed out Scottish banks, fund the free tuition, fund the free prescriptions and larger state pensions you seam to enjoy.
danielpullen 4 months ago
@danielpullen ONE OF THE most ignorant posts i have ever read. Have you ever read the GERS report? guess what, the GERS report shows a surplus of cash being generated in scotland compared to what is being spent in it.
and quite frankly those "scottish banks" are about as scottish as scotland yard. And i also love how all the tax revenue from the "scottish banks" are attributed to london the apparent breadbasket of the uk and also how all the debt acquired from them is pushed onto scotland.
stonecoldmc 4 months ago 2
Respond to this video... Oh yeah in response to the video there have been 3 referendums on Scottish independence and the majority said NO every time. sums it up really.
danielpullen 4 months ago
@danielpullen Actually NO, not all of them were no's.
ECPproductions100 4 months ago