On a lighter not, can tell carlos paid big bucks for that head gear, in comparison to awen's. Lol or maybe carlos cares more about his looks? who knows.
Look at how many of Arwen's shots Carlos took on the gloves. Even Arwen said Carlos should have got the verdict. The show was run by a leaguie and did anyone notice how all the close decisions went league's way? One final question: Would anyone want to buy a used car from dean Lonergan? Just sayin' lol
The decision is as pathetic as bad Lonegan putting these guys in the ring for his own gain under the guise of fight for life. the whole idea lacks any brains at all.For what it is worth Guttenbiel hardly landed a scoring punch Carlos's defence was very good.,a knockdown for a draw pathetic!!!!
i culdnt give 2 fucks who won...woz a maka fight both deservd thea hands 2 be raised...awen actually suprised me...thought he woz gna get steam rolld by spencer
@KlonoaPS01 Your ignorance glows from that comment you ARE obviously clueless about boxing to say that . Fucking asians by far the p4p internet warriors.
@187prettyboy I think he means that technically he cannot be knocked out because the ref has to give him the opportunity to get back to his feet...usually a 10 count. You can't do that with only 4 seconds left...hence the saying "saved by the bell". What does it matter anyway, it was a fantastic fight and for charity...:)
Ref was right. Guttenbeil hits the deck with only 4 seconds on the clock.
It might not be fair but that's how boxing works and if any of you watched boxing you'd know that. In the final round you can't be counted out past the bell. If the ref started a 10 count he'd have gotten to 3 or 4 and the bell would have sounded.
Look at the time clock and do the math. At 1:20 on the video the clock is at 0:12 - Awen hits the deck at 1:28 on the video. Which only leaves 4 seconds on the ring clock
@z0mgrugbyreturns Also that does still does not explain why the ref held Spencer back with about 4 seconds to go and Guttenbeil was still standing. Why? Why?
@187prettyboy You're absolutely right mate. The ref had no business trying to intervene. What I'm trying to say to people saying the ref robbed him is that even if the ref didn't jump in between, there wouldn't have been a knockout. Guttenbeil would have been saved by the bell because those are the rules.
That's boxing though mate. Refs always trying to stop the action, too many refs worried about boxers being injured on their watch ala Gerald McLellan - Nigel Benn
@z0mgrugbyreturns Carlos should've won, sure he landed less punches, but his were harder. He rocked him in the last round and that should've counted for something.
Opinions may differ, but mine says carlos shook off everything he had to throw, and then knocked him in the last round.
@jessdaman08 I agree, points should be counted on how many clean punches you land, not how many punches you throw at the opponents gloves. Anybody can throw a trillion aimless punches, they should not be counted as points. If you count points on clean punches landed, Spencer would still win.
@187prettyboy Its how boxing works. you don't have to be on the ground for the reff to step in. It's ameteur boxing, the guy got hit hard so the reff should either stop the fight or call it a standing 8. how much time is left in the round is irrelevant, most of the time the reff wont even know what the time is on the clock.
@caskett4eva You misunderstand me. I'm not saying Spencer didn't win, what I'm saying is that even if the ref didn't intervene, it was impossible for Spencer to win by knockout.
What I'm saying is while the ref might be shit it's not the refs fault the fight was called a draw. The judges are at fault.
@minimewestside You do not know anything about rugby, nor watch it. HE was bigger in his rugby days. He said he is fitter now than ever, and he has lost massive weight for this fight. His last playing weight for the Golden Lions was 100kgs. The scale and the boxing weigh in does not lie. Go back to bodybulding with your mates in front of the mirror in their undies. Do not talk about rugby if you do not know anything.
ha ha fukkin love it lol ok wankers, its just protein powder aye,yip thats why all the other fuks taking it are just like Carlos? aaarrgghhh WRONG!!!! , ive trained olympians, heaps of world champions and worked under Jim Blair when he trained the All Blacks u stupid pissants, a masking shot would beat any test in those days, i know this for a fact wankers so u fuk off pussies, go suck Carlos' cock homo's lmfao :-)
Carlos looked ripped the other day, but it looked more from lack of fat, he looked like he had stripped down his fluid like bodybuilders do for a comp. So i don't think it has anything to do with roid. Awen was fighting better, but not sure why the ref was stepping in on that knock down from Carlos.
Fight For Life 2011:Awen "Guttanator" aka "Real Deal" Guttenbeil vs "King Carlos" aka "Jackal" Spencer.1 of 2 gud theme muzic entrancez Enter Sandman next 2 Da Rockwilder.bezt fight of tha nite shuld of ended in (KO) 2 Spencer.Amateur refereein through out da fight nite.a lozt of 15 to 20 secondz in 1 or 2 matchz.Whole fight nite rigged afta tha Guttenbeil vs Spencer match.shuld of finizh wiv Team Rugby winnin 4 ta 3 ova Team League.In partin den.Real Deal u gott knock da fukk out partner lol.
prettyboy u can say wat u like, ive been puttin the best bodybuilders on stage for years mate, been in the "business" and Carlos aint natural mate, plus he's in sth africa. so fuk off wake up an smell the coffee u fool
@minimewestside So you don't watch rugby, but you judge just by a 1 minute clip? Spencer has been bigger and more buffed than this before, esp during his playing days. He is about 10 kgs smaller now. Maybe in bodybulding they do not do drug testing, but in rugby they do drug testing, and this guy was natural when he was playing (and bigger).
@minimewestside First of all,your full of shit.You are probably some fatass prick sitting in his moms basement with no knowledge of training or steroids.So why don't you do us all a favor and fuck off....
Awen definitely the much better fighter, well done mate, and Carlos? get off the roids ya cheating fuk, comin here on roids to fight wat a joke, shuda been drug tested just like wen ya put all that size on wen u were an all black, loser!!
@minimewestside he is not on roids, he was much more ripped and heavier during his rugby days. He actually lost nearly 10 lgs for this fight. So yeah he is smaller and less muscly now. No roids.
lote tuqiri vs sony bill? they both like their boxing
44redman1 4 days ago
why the fuck is this a draw awen clearly went down before the round ended???
Lorenzo2733 3 weeks ago
i dont get it...carlos obviously won and the announced a draw??
jackoasdfg 3 weeks ago
bad decision,carlos won that for mine,but respect to both of them for getting in there and doing it for a good cause.
fiveofiveo1 3 weeks ago
one of the best fights on the night, I liked both fighters
ilizitch 3 weeks ago
Carlos deserved to win that!
Nzwill1 3 weeks ago
Spencer is a mean fighter!! he would probs knock out sonny bill!
elizah11 1 month ago
Carlost should of dropped the ref for getting in his fucken way stupid old fuck ruined the fight would of potentially been the first knockout
gizarangi 1 month ago
All black everything !!!
DuneFdkns91 1 month ago
draw my ass carlos kicked his ass
kurious1013 2 months ago 3
Nice Carlos!!!
hartycripsta 2 months ago
carlos and isaac luke would have been a hearty fight
kraezd1 2 months ago
@HorneySamoan
hahaha yeah bro i noticed that to lmao they must like to fight ae
kraezd1 2 months ago
I gave Spencer no chance but he proved me wrong best boxing talent of the night well done ROIDZ
Remuera23 2 months ago
solid hook at the end
immortalhenry1 2 months ago
If the ref didnt hold spencer back, there will be a WIN for spencer
skuckzy 2 months ago
On a lighter not, can tell carlos paid big bucks for that head gear, in comparison to awen's. Lol or maybe carlos cares more about his looks? who knows.
jessdaman08 2 months ago
spencer looks like a fucking muscle crazed robot when he punches haha.
Jxzor 3 months ago
Look at how many of Arwen's shots Carlos took on the gloves. Even Arwen said Carlos should have got the verdict. The show was run by a leaguie and did anyone notice how all the close decisions went league's way? One final question: Would anyone want to buy a used car from dean Lonergan? Just sayin' lol
newland50 3 months ago 2
The decision is as pathetic as bad Lonegan putting these guys in the ring for his own gain under the guise of fight for life. the whole idea lacks any brains at all.For what it is worth Guttenbiel hardly landed a scoring punch Carlos's defence was very good.,a knockdown for a draw pathetic!!!!
whitecloudboy007 3 months ago
spencer vs williams
atiustyle 3 months ago
1:23 why did the ref try to stop the fight before carlos threw the 1st right hand punch?
horipinoy 3 months ago 2
i culdnt give 2 fucks who won...woz a maka fight both deservd thea hands 2 be raised...awen actually suprised me...thought he woz gna get steam rolld by spencer
smokecity344 3 months ago
they had the most amatuer refs ever that night
92EKUL 3 months ago
Spencer Won.
floydkramer 3 months ago
spencer ko'd awen wtf carlos should have one
jayjay4632 3 months ago 2
@187prettyboy Your a retard you know nothing about boxing . CLEARLY
shankthatup 3 months ago
@shankthatup calling someone a retard for not knowing anything about boxing... what's their to know about boxing anyway retard.
KlonoaPS01 3 months ago
@KlonoaPS01 Your ignorance glows from that comment you ARE obviously clueless about boxing to say that . Fucking asians by far the p4p internet warriors.
shankthatup 2 months ago
@shankthatup hahaha you think I'm asian. well well well well, look who the ignorant bastard is now hahahahahaha
KlonoaPS01 2 months ago
DAMN gr8 fight
79HAMR 3 months ago
this was the only fight to get a knockout but it was a draw lol wtf i wasted my 40 bucks
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SIT THE FUCK DOWN Guttenbeil. KING CARLOS.
QuietRiotNZ 3 months ago
FUKK IM SURE DA REF GOT PAID TO STOP SPENCER..SHOT SPENCER U DA MAYN
mintieez 3 months ago
FUKK OFF SPENCER WON DAT BITCH FUKN BULLSHIT!!!.STR8 KNOCK OWT
mintieez 3 months ago 2
@mintieez You can't get knocked out after the bell in the final round
z0mgrugbyreturns 3 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns You can't get knocked out after the bell? If you watch the time, he was knocked down about 4 seconds before the bell, not after.
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy I think he means that technically he cannot be knocked out because the ref has to give him the opportunity to get back to his feet...usually a 10 count. You can't do that with only 4 seconds left...hence the saying "saved by the bell". What does it matter anyway, it was a fantastic fight and for charity...:)
Grayhawk33 3 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns he still got knockd out fuk da bell it still went dwn in history face it
mintieez 3 months ago
i thought spencer was always buff like in those toffee pop ads lol
PrimoFreak 3 months ago
What the hell was that ref upto!!! He literally held spencer back from delivering the KNOCK-OUT blow!!!
jimmyd213 3 months ago
Ref was right. Guttenbeil hits the deck with only 4 seconds on the clock.
It might not be fair but that's how boxing works and if any of you watched boxing you'd know that. In the final round you can't be counted out past the bell. If the ref started a 10 count he'd have gotten to 3 or 4 and the bell would have sounded.
Look at the time clock and do the math. At 1:20 on the video the clock is at 0:12 - Awen hits the deck at 1:28 on the video. Which only leaves 4 seconds on the ring clock
z0mgrugbyreturns 3 months ago 2
@z0mgrugbyreturns Also that does still does not explain why the ref held Spencer back with about 4 seconds to go and Guttenbeil was still standing. Why? Why?
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy You're absolutely right mate. The ref had no business trying to intervene. What I'm trying to say to people saying the ref robbed him is that even if the ref didn't jump in between, there wouldn't have been a knockout. Guttenbeil would have been saved by the bell because those are the rules.
That's boxing though mate. Refs always trying to stop the action, too many refs worried about boxers being injured on their watch ala Gerald McLellan - Nigel Benn
z0mgrugbyreturns 3 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns Carlos should've won, sure he landed less punches, but his were harder. He rocked him in the last round and that should've counted for something.
Opinions may differ, but mine says carlos shook off everything he had to throw, and then knocked him in the last round.
That's a win
jessdaman08 3 months ago 2
@jessdaman08 I haven't actually seen the fight mate so I couldn't say. But if that's the case the judges robbed him, rather than the ref
z0mgrugbyreturns 3 months ago
@jessdaman08 I agree, points should be counted on how many clean punches you land, not how many punches you throw at the opponents gloves. Anybody can throw a trillion aimless punches, they should not be counted as points. If you count points on clean punches landed, Spencer would still win.
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy Its how boxing works. you don't have to be on the ground for the reff to step in. It's ameteur boxing, the guy got hit hard so the reff should either stop the fight or call it a standing 8. how much time is left in the round is irrelevant, most of the time the reff wont even know what the time is on the clock.
fudnut6 2 months ago
@fudnut6 Even standing 8 count is not black and white. Still marginal call when to start a marginal call.
187prettyboy 2 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns No one cares about the maths and u no how to tell time he still got ko'd and the fans loved it
mintieez 3 months ago
@z0mgrugbyreturns sheesh even Awen admitted Spencer shoulda won!
caskett4eva 3 months ago
@caskett4eva You misunderstand me. I'm not saying Spencer didn't win, what I'm saying is that even if the ref didn't intervene, it was impossible for Spencer to win by knockout.
What I'm saying is while the ref might be shit it's not the refs fault the fight was called a draw. The judges are at fault.
z0mgrugbyreturns 2 months ago
for charity anyway!! keyboard warriors plobably offering tips that would get ya knocked out n fuk da west side too haha WankSacks
supersayonbrad 3 months ago
poor spencer, ths s b.s
ANYNMYS2010 3 months ago
the ref should of been the one that got knocked out.
eseumanu267 3 months ago
honestly...HOW WAS THAT A DRAW???? spencer won that one lol
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and prettyboy (what kind of a fukking homo name is that lol) he was not bigger in his Rugby days u idiot
minimewestside 3 months ago
@minimewestside You do not know anything about rugby, nor watch it. HE was bigger in his rugby days. He said he is fitter now than ever, and he has lost massive weight for this fight. His last playing weight for the Golden Lions was 100kgs. The scale and the boxing weigh in does not lie. Go back to bodybulding with your mates in front of the mirror in their undies. Do not talk about rugby if you do not know anything.
187prettyboy 3 months ago
ha ha fukkin love it lol ok wankers, its just protein powder aye,yip thats why all the other fuks taking it are just like Carlos? aaarrgghhh WRONG!!!! , ive trained olympians, heaps of world champions and worked under Jim Blair when he trained the All Blacks u stupid pissants, a masking shot would beat any test in those days, i know this for a fact wankers so u fuk off pussies, go suck Carlos' cock homo's lmfao :-)
minimewestside 3 months ago
@minimewestside you are a a complete and utter mess. Go fuck yourself.
racefactory900 2 months ago
Carlos looked ripped the other day, but it looked more from lack of fat, he looked like he had stripped down his fluid like bodybuilders do for a comp. So i don't think it has anything to do with roid. Awen was fighting better, but not sure why the ref was stepping in on that knock down from Carlos.
Palpac 3 months ago
A draw? WTF...
fjbutch 3 months ago
Carlos mates Hook me up some roids
mrcornpatch88 3 months ago
this deserves a rematch !! i have now forgiven him for throwing "that" pass.
4n4ru 3 months ago
how the fuck is this a draw??? did john key bet for a draw
MaoriWithaGun 3 months ago
Fight For Life 2011:Awen "Guttanator" aka "Real Deal" Guttenbeil vs "King Carlos" aka "Jackal" Spencer.1 of 2 gud theme muzic entrancez Enter Sandman next 2 Da Rockwilder.bezt fight of tha nite shuld of ended in (KO) 2 Spencer.Amateur refereein through out da fight nite.a lozt of 15 to 20 secondz in 1 or 2 matchz.Whole fight nite rigged afta tha Guttenbeil vs Spencer match.shuld of finizh wiv Team Rugby winnin 4 ta 3 ova Team League.In partin den.Real Deal u gott knock da fukk out partner lol.
thamantiz 3 months ago
yeah carlos should have won, but man, awen really put up a mean fight! best one of the night, much better than the main event.
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All Hail King Carlos... Long live the King!!!
BlueKikorangi 3 months ago 18
Spencer robbed, he knocked the cunt out! and it's a draw! What a joke!
Spencer is the winner, everyone could see that despite what the mungo judges say.
Rugby wins again, and the mungos resort to fixing the result so not to look like losers.
keza41 3 months ago
prettyboy u can say wat u like, ive been puttin the best bodybuilders on stage for years mate, been in the "business" and Carlos aint natural mate, plus he's in sth africa. so fuk off wake up an smell the coffee u fool
minimewestside 3 months ago
@minimewestside So you don't watch rugby, but you judge just by a 1 minute clip? Spencer has been bigger and more buffed than this before, esp during his playing days. He is about 10 kgs smaller now. Maybe in bodybulding they do not do drug testing, but in rugby they do drug testing, and this guy was natural when he was playing (and bigger).
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy dont think so.. How slow would he be at no.10 that size?! he was never that big in rugby
kdxkiwi 3 months ago
@minimewestside First of all,your full of shit.You are probably some fatass prick sitting in his moms basement with no knowledge of training or steroids.So why don't you do us all a favor and fuck off....
fixdeluxe1 3 months ago 5
oh by the way carlos won this fight man.by the last ko.
rockgome 3 months ago
tell the truth.this guys a way better boxer then s.b.w take my hat off for all the boys for takeing part of this.well done to all the fighters.
rockgome 3 months ago
ha Spencer love the guy ..good hands bro!!!!!
ilaivunibola 3 months ago
Awen definitely the much better fighter, well done mate, and Carlos? get off the roids ya cheating fuk, comin here on roids to fight wat a joke, shuda been drug tested just like wen ya put all that size on wen u were an all black, loser!!
minimewestside 3 months ago
@minimewestside he is not on roids, he was much more ripped and heavier during his rugby days. He actually lost nearly 10 lgs for this fight. So yeah he is smaller and less muscly now. No roids.
187prettyboy 3 months ago 13
@187prettyboy *kgs
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy 10 kgs i mean
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@187prettyboy 10 kgs i mean
187prettyboy 3 months ago
@minimewestside fuck youre an idiot bro. you msut think that every muscly cunt is on roids. stupid fuck.
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GIRLS TAKE YOUR HATS OFF
reobarrt 3 months ago
Carlos won...its boxing, if the ref had to step in then obviously Carlos won....a knockout is a knock out and thats that.
kanyeezys 3 months ago 2
Was Lonergan a judge ?
shoalbayboy 3 months ago
Carlos got ripped off, should of post the after match interveiw that was funny
ariJ78 3 months ago 2
mean fight!
IaintNoNewBoyz 3 months ago
carlos looked way stronger
DickieM92 3 months ago
Chur king Carlos
AnthonyMitchell07 3 months ago
Thanks for posting :-) Spencer was robbed! :-(
ginganz13 3 months ago 2
cheers bro 2much
MrPaulkear 3 months ago
some body call the cops!!! spencer got robbed!!!
pinkybeanz 3 months ago 2
spencer was robbed
Joelberg11 3 months ago 22
haha
westywest100 3 months ago
if that ref didnt jump in when he did.. good night awen
bruiserblu 3 months ago
do u have the hayley fight??
johnwinters2025 3 months ago 2
chur at least sum 1 postd a fight 2 much bro, got the rest of them ..lukes 1 ?? and camerons
MrPaulkear 3 months ago
@MrPaulkear it's all up on my channel bro, check it out
187prettyboy 3 months ago
Bullshiiiit Los had him on his back and shouldv won that
raachxx 3 months ago 2