& 2 your gold fish theory tamper with their chromosones you"ll have a shark or some HYBRID CHROMOSONES do MATTER to da but head who said chromosones dont matter
we have da genetic material for 48 but we only have 46 meanig 2 fused
2gether ..were when how not enuff time has passed on this planet for a species
chromosones 2 fuse 2gether for no apparent reason DUH. if not we"d be apes
monkey"s you need not RESEARCH but HOMEWORK go back 2 school
This test can be beat very easily and up to 9 digits like the chimps not iluminosity one which only has 5 digits. The technique is simple actually. Press circle, Numbers flash, close eyes and keep them closed, with your hand draw pattern of numbers from lowest to highest digit. open eyes draw that same pattern by clicking numbers on screen. With training you can get 9 digits in 4-5 seconds time. It;s the only way it can be solved. Trying to remember digits will not work with 9 digit tests.
its because humans are more focused in more advanced things like operating computers like downloading games..if you showed that to a chimp it could not do that and lets not forget that the humans are stuffed with knowledge at least till collage
@urbanninja388 Perhaps you should talk about yourself. Most people can adapt to enviroment. It all depends how dumbed down by the social life you are. Most of what you see on TV dumbs you down these days. It's a fact. That is why most people where there is no social life whatsoever do much better in life even without having education. They simply adapt to the enviroment immediately. BTW I did this game when I was in primary school. It is to test visual memory and yes it's doable up to 9 digits.
key thing to notice here is that the chimp(chimp?). can learn how to solve problems, not be trained. Training is not learning. so important that difference is.
who gives a fuck about how smart a chimpanzee is. everyone knows they're able to learn and solve puzzles. why isn't the white man more fascinated by the fact that a male chimp in it's prime has 6 times the strength of an atheletic human male? let's see some examples of chimpanzee strength and stop beating the heck out of these dumb assed brain tests.
@TheSpearthrower A chimpanzee is a monkey, Be its a very special monkey, it is still a specie of monkey... Learn your facts before trying to prove people wrong... I work in a primate zoo, so if your willing to argue go ahead.
Also, the reason Chimpanzees have such great memory skills is that they still retain the photographic memory that us Homosapiens lost when we advanced and evolved in language and communication technicalities.
@Gazjohnful Um no, it's not a monkey. A chimpanzee is an ape. Apes aren't monkeys. They share a common ancestor with monkeys as do we, but that common ancestor predates both monkeys and apes. So see your tip about 'learning facts' - I strongly recommend you take your own advice instead of hypocritically berating people who know better than you. You clean dung for a living? Take people's ticket money? Go and ask someone if a chimp is a monkey. Then you can come apologise to me. ;)
Chimpanzee's are apes, learn your facts before you start patronising other people and certainly learn your facts before taking a job you obviously don't even know the basics about the species your working with.
If I was given 200.00 for correct answers, maybe I would have done as well. That is the difference in this experiment. Humans do better when rewards are presented.
Lol. Do you know how long they must have been training the chimps to do this? The humans are seeing the test for the first time whereas the chimps have months or maybe years of training. Not a fair experiment if there is more than one variable.
@RedDragon7198 Where the numbers are placed is completely random. Where the numbers are placed when flashed on the screen is completely random. You cant train to do this when the numbers are randomly placed. All you have to know is how to count from 0-9 which isn't that hard. This just shows that chimps have a better picture memory then humans. Quit being so arrogant and self absorbed and take the loss in stride.
I am not complaining about the chimps having a better picture memory than humans, maybe they do. I am not saying that humans should be able to out compete the chimps at this, maybe they can't. I am doubting the quality of the experiment itself. The chimps were conditioned for this using positive reinforcement. It might not have too big an impact, but there might be more than one variable in this experiment. That is all I was trying to say. Not being arrogant, just stating my opinion.
@RedDragon7198 They were just given positive reinforcement so they keep there mind on what they were supposed to do. It would be like telling the person to remember where the numbers were and select the right one. Even if a person were offered $1000 for getting it right I still doubt they would be able to get it.
@b4igetu I don't think RedDragon7198 is being arrogant. He's simply saying that the chimps have the advantage of performing a practiced task, whereas the person performs this for the first time..
@b4igetu Actually this is a standard visual memory test found in older psychology books mostly by Russian Authors. It was practiced in most communist countries for evaluatin children visual memory capabilities. In Western countries there is SImon Says. Simon Says is much better test than this because this test is easily done. I can get all 10 correct on first try at iluminosity because the test there is only 5 digits. This test is usually done with 7 - 9 digits. Officialy I scored 9 in 9 digits.
People here should take in consideration the amount of Sudoku-champions around the world who can get a huge Sudoku-puzzle right in under a minute, so yes humans CAN be better at this sort of thing. Its still amazing to see a chimp do this thing better then the avarage person regardless.
But if you're going to take the BEST humans you have to take the best chimps as well. And if the average chimp is this good, imagine how good the best are?
instead of comparing this to humans and being defensive that humans are actually smarter, i think people should just realize that this is pretty amazing
I wonder if a human could be just as good if they practiced. It seems like the chimps living at the lab have two things to do in a day, it's either fling feces at each other or play this computer game that gives you food, hmm, decisions decisions. If we sat at our computers for several weeks practicing this thing, I feel like people could be just as good.
children have better short term memory than adults. they had 9 year olds memorize the order for a longer time than apes, and still got it incorrect. it suggests that apes have better short term memory than humans, but doesn't necessarily make them more intelligent.
people acutally have really good memory better than chimps sometimes only for some people photo graph memory and also humans are smarter we build cars and everything
these chimps do know some japanese symbols. They can link colours to the right japanese word/symbol(no joke). Calculations maybe a bit to far for them lol, but they certainly are very smart.
thats not very complex... why do you suppose english written colors are more difficult to learn than japanese symbols? If we were born in japan it would be natural to us. The language doesn't matter, the fact is chimps can do simple correlations and simple problem solving, nothing more.
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I hate it when one animal is better than us at something then us, and they are INSTANTLY considered genius. The chimp had motivation, and they have always had this skill in their BRAIN. Dolphins can do 20 foot jump/flips. We can't. So? Sharks can smell blood miles away! so? Ants carry 50 times their body weight on their heads. So? Just cause they are better then us at one thing, doesn't mean we can't beat them at many other things.
They have better short term memories. But their long term memories aren;t so good. That's why they don't evolve as fast as us - they figure shit out pretty fast. But they can;t remember how they did an hour later.
It is, actually. Everything we (and every living organism) are is attributable to evolution, including our capacity for long or short-term memory, as well as all other mental capabilities! :D
actually this is probably a good theory the reason why we probably evolved was because of our long term memory we rememebr important things from the past and built on it.
This is actually a pretty good observation, however it is a look into social evolution and not biological evolution. Since memories aren't inherited, but rather, taught. ^_^
Their long term memory is actually quite remarkable. For example, most chimps and other greater apes can recognize primatologists, professors, or zookeepers they were fond of even after several decades of not having seen them.
One shouldn't underestimate their mental capacity, they are a mirror into our own humanity.
Chimps are the smartest animals and they are identical to humans 98%. No surprise that they do better on this test. Maybe they are smarter? The main reason we're at the top of the food chain is because we're the only species that has interlocking thumbs, no lie.
i think the idea isnt that they're smarter. its that theyre more determined when it comes to reward. probably because their survivalists and food is a necessity, so they learn to get it. chimps dont do high level math. they could only count 1-9
I've got to say, I've taken these types of tests many times before but did not do as well as the chimps did in this video. With practice, I could remember about 7 or 8 numbers that flashed quickly on the screen, losing about half the time. Like the chimp, I was motivated to do well, just through a different means.
This is a test of working memory. We are the only species that has a developed language..and the planning part of our brain (mostly prefrontal cortex), and the part associated mostly with intelligence, speech, memory, learning, etc. the cortex are more developed than any creature.
Sure a chimp may be able to do this better, or a turtle may remember how to get to its mating place thousands of miles away many years later...but they don't compare to humans. Just look around you to see the diff.
no you idiot. we also sweat throughout our WHOLE body. No other animal (except horses) can do that. We ran creatures to death, discovered fire, made weapons, and much more things than a CHIMP. So don't defend them. there is a site where you try that out, and i beat the chimp. All you need is the motivation.
@Stinger2121 No, the main reason we're at the top of the food chain is because we're the only species that has INCREDIBLE, UTTERLYM INDBLOWING INTELLIGENCE that allows us to
kill any threatening predator with the push of a trigger and other useful things. Chimps don't come close to our level of intelligence, and anyway - humans AREN'T the only species with opposable thumbs.
@Lesouder5555Nature , intelligence is just abstract thought, understanding, reasoning, planning, problem solving, communication, learning and learning from the experience. Nothing to do with intelligence...
Incredibly interesting. The chimps seem to react reflexively or by muscle memory. However the position of the numbers seems to be random. The power of classical conditioning is demonstrated here.
Not to nitpick, but this isn't really classical (Pavlovian) conditioning. There isn't a neutral stimulus being presented here that ellicits a response.
If anything it's operant conditioning, since there is a reward (peanut) presented for completing the task, but I don't think it's really that either. No one is trying to modify their behavior...
I just think chimpanzees have an extraordinary short term, high intake, memory, and this just illustrates that.
I just wanted to point out that average humans do have latent abilities that allow them to surpass even the greatest geniuses in many areas. Humans can accurately count hundreds of dots flashed for an instant on a screen, perform complex mathematical calculations like 2.583 x10^4.2 in the blink of an eye, remember the order of hundreds of numbers, and probably much more. The challenge is unlocking this hidden potential, then refining it to make it useful.
In case anybody wants to see if they can do it luminosity has a game called Top Chimp in which you do the same drill shown in the video against fiction chimps
note: I've beaten the last level Nim "The Doctor" Chimpsky
Accordin 2 evolution humans evolved from da chimp Da diff is chimps use both da left and right side of their brains. in our society we R trained 2 use less (notably da right/creative side of da brain). Dis drill merely requires a somewhat fotografic memory Humans R capable of doing this drill but it'll require use of da right side of da brain (discouraged by school system) 2 take a picture of da entire board as oposed 2 trying 2 remember da individual position of each numba (left/logical brain)
Our brains are built slightly different from that of chimpanzee's, where they have better memory then us, and we have other kognitive advantages. In fact it was our abillity to really cooperate on difficult tasks that made our success:)
wow! IS THIS FOR THE GREATER GOOD? We both express happiness, sadness, fear and despair. Chimps who have lost a loved one will grieve, becoming depressed,
reluctant to interact, and refusing to eat.
An emotional trait that people deem most uniquely human is empathy.
Chimps show sympathy and empathy for each other, and react
From the abstract of the new study: "The present report shows that when two humans are given practice in the Inoue and Matsuzawa (2007) memory task, their accuracy levels match those of Ayumu [i.e. the chimp]. " This is NOT to say that chimps are stupid (they are not) and this is NOT to say that evolution is wrong (it is instead right). I would be surprised if the media would now report on the "killjoy" data presented by Silberberg and Kearns. And that is a shame really.
I don't buy their conclusions. The chimp has obviously trained extensively to perform this task and is well-practiced. Spend a few months teaching a human to select numbers in order and he'll become good too. It's like any kind of puzzle game. I'm surprised the researchers didn't consider such a basic objection.
are you a scientist, that you don't buy it? are you a researcher or something? you're not right, the chimps were not teaching in order. read about something before you critisize.
and watch films about Koko the gorilla-she knows over a 1000 signs, so that she can "talk" with people. by chance?
Try to use your noggin. I promise that you're allowed to do that without a Ph.D. You don't need to be a scientist to understand that practice improves performance. You do know that the animals were TRAINED for this, right? I hope you don't think they were simply asked. LOL. They were trained via basic conditioning techniques and became proficient. The humans were not trained, they were not practiced, and therefore they were less skilled.
No way, this type of game responds extremely well to practice. The humans didn't know what they were doing. The chimps had been practicing all day for weeks or months.
Humans have a weird attitude toward the "non-speaking", if only apes, monkeys AND FETUS' could speak, maybe the world would be a different place. Humans associate non-speaking to mean DEAD, NOT IMPORTANT, NOT VALUABLE, NON FUNCTIONING, ILL EQUIPPED, ETC.
I've never heard a chimp advocate argue a pro live position. this is highly interesting to me. You seem to be arguing for primate intelligence while disqualifying man primate morality. I'm eagerly anticipating your response to the ansewer. Preferably minus scripture as I'm not an ...*evolutionist?* fill the blank. ok... you go.
Well thats all fine and dandy, they had 6 chimps but did they have more than one human, hopefully so. That wouldnt be too much of an expeirment if the human subject wasn't too bright. lol
My question is whether the chimps had any sort of learning period before the task to become familiar with it. You could bring a human in, give them directions and expect them to perform the task. You cannot do the same to a chimp. They have to become familiar with how to perform the task. So, these results could POSSIBLY demonstrate that the chimps are performing the task more quickly and accurately because they have more experience with this particular task. No one can say for sure, though.
what i dont understand is how people deny evolution, i mean come on, after watching this 2 min video just in fact proves the fact of evolution right here
Actually, this segment doesn't really imply anything at all about evolution, and this is coming from someone who believes in evolution.
Also, in science, we never prove anything. All we can do is continue providing evidence for hypotheses. When a substantial amount of research provides evidence for the hypothesis, it becomes a theory, then eventually a law, but never becomes 100% proven.
So? All this proves is that human brains and chimp brains are tuned differently for our respective environments. Our brains are 3 times bigger, but chimps are more autistic.
It's a very interesting experiment, but it can't be viewed as a comparison in intelligence.
Chimps are awesome. When I'm King of the World I guarantee a chimp in every classroom, a chimp card dealer in every casino, chimp accountants and a chimp in every commercial doing human things while the humans do chimp things.
Why don't aliens put us through tests like these instead of the live autopsies? They have enough physical research done, why don't they give us fun puzzles in return for small snack treats?
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There's a game on the Android Market that is just like this: Monkey Numbers Free
drk421 1 week ago
love the video really good
sprattysy 1 month ago
rise of the planets of the apes!!!!!
psoethout1 1 month ago
this human is really bad ..
SkeeLoY 1 month ago
@mkrontz25
& 2 your gold fish theory tamper with their chromosones you"ll have a shark or some HYBRID CHROMOSONES do MATTER to da but head who said chromosones dont matter
we have da genetic material for 48 but we only have 46 meanig 2 fused
2gether ..were when how not enuff time has passed on this planet for a species
chromosones 2 fuse 2gether for no apparent reason DUH. if not we"d be apes
monkey"s you need not RESEARCH but HOMEWORK go back 2 school
pauprinceaz09 5 months ago
@mkrontz25 to da but head who said chromosones dont matter
we have da genetic material for 48 but we only have 46 meanig 2 fused
2gether ..were when how not enuff time has passed on this planet for a species
chromosones 2 fuse 2gether for no apparent reason DUH. if not we"d be apes
monkey"s you need not RESEARCH but HOMEWORK go back 2 school
pauprinceaz09 5 months ago
If i got rewarded with a blowjob i would had won!
ELtercermundista82 6 months ago 4
evolution in action, amaizing
CryoKatana97 6 months ago
this is not a very well conducted experiment, the human coulda done a lot better with a nut after each round...
TheSleeb 6 months ago
photographic memory obviously.
emmanuelnsanga 6 months ago
what in the fuck!!! if this is real chimps have the capacity to do alot more than we crdit them for
pulpfictionost 7 months ago
0:17 absolutely killing it
725672567256 7 months ago
3 people think this video is fake
KevinTheCommentator 7 months ago
it is easy 2 sit & post remarks ...i can do it ..Blah blah or when da test was origanally administered....Blah blah blah
the fact still remain these are primates 1 evolutionary step behind us
we have 46 chromosone with the genetic material for 48
they have the full 48 .... see them do this must make you WONDER...
pauprinceaz09 7 months ago
This test can be beat very easily and up to 9 digits like the chimps not iluminosity one which only has 5 digits. The technique is simple actually. Press circle, Numbers flash, close eyes and keep them closed, with your hand draw pattern of numbers from lowest to highest digit. open eyes draw that same pattern by clicking numbers on screen. With training you can get 9 digits in 4-5 seconds time. It;s the only way it can be solved. Trying to remember digits will not work with 9 digit tests.
TheTurboBest 7 months ago
They should give rewards that are the same level as the chimp's peanut's like money. :) That would be good.
bam10333333 7 months ago
Humans are peanuts
zumobster 8 months ago
its because humans are more focused in more advanced things like operating computers like downloading games..if you showed that to a chimp it could not do that and lets not forget that the humans are stuffed with knowledge at least till collage
thumbs up if i am agreed
urbanninja388 9 months ago
@urbanninja388 Perhaps you should talk about yourself. Most people can adapt to enviroment. It all depends how dumbed down by the social life you are. Most of what you see on TV dumbs you down these days. It's a fact. That is why most people where there is no social life whatsoever do much better in life even without having education. They simply adapt to the enviroment immediately. BTW I did this game when I was in primary school. It is to test visual memory and yes it's doable up to 9 digits.
TheTurboBest 7 months ago
this chimp is trained to do so if men is traend to do with in week he can beat chimp
ahmad100001 10 months ago
Because it was a woman. Put her in a kitchen and she can label all the utensils and silverware in seconds
sirbizzyd3 10 months ago
humans have interference problems. it's how they raise us.
returnoftheramble3 10 months ago
key thing to notice here is that the chimp(chimp?). can learn how to solve problems, not be trained. Training is not learning. so important that difference is.
v01d4d3pt 10 months ago
Chimps are smarter than women, duh.
nickys34 11 months ago
test yourself
games (.) lumosity (.) com/chimp (.) html
sandeeprajsharma 11 months ago
Couldn't it be the president of America?
meusisto 1 year ago 2
@meusisto What do you think Bush was?
6478225 10 months ago
one possible theory... chimps care more about peanuts than humans do
Obsidian1392 1 year ago 5
Can a chimp be a tv host for abc?
derman077 1 year ago
the chimp doesn't have a mortgage on his ass, nor does he have to worry about his daughter dating bad boys.
ouggnoy 1 year ago
Make the human dependent on the test to eat for months and see how much better they do...
Dougster 1 year ago 3
FAKE! That chimp has been training for months!
SuperSuperMarioMan 1 year ago 5
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who gives a fuck about how smart a chimpanzee is. everyone knows they're able to learn and solve puzzles. why isn't the white man more fascinated by the fact that a male chimp in it's prime has 6 times the strength of an atheletic human male? let's see some examples of chimpanzee strength and stop beating the heck out of these dumb assed brain tests.
IIarcon2II 1 year ago
haha he was racken them peanuts up.
ThePixelPwner 1 year ago
its cuz they use japs
ProffesorChaosesFile 1 year ago
lol the monkey was getting his peanut for reward
and the human was pressurised with "dont let the chimp beat you or your shame to yourself" so no wonder the monkey won
Nixupiz3 1 year ago 27
@Nixupiz3
haha that's funny thing to think.
FullySoul 1 year ago
@Nixupiz3 /watch?v=zJAH4ZJBiN8&feature=related
There is no shame to it
it's in the gene of chimps to be better then us in short term memories
i tried this kind of test twice and my score was 1/10 in the first time and 5/10 the second time
aznboy3213 8 months ago
@Nixupiz3
so many dumb things in this post. Chimps are not monkeys. Pressurised is not a word.
And wouldn't that shame be more of an incentive to win than a peanut?
Alfosian 6 months ago
@Nixupiz3 It's not a monkey, it's a chimpanzee... but your point is otherwise a good one.
TheSpearthrower 3 months ago
@TheSpearthrower A chimpanzee is a monkey, Be its a very special monkey, it is still a specie of monkey... Learn your facts before trying to prove people wrong... I work in a primate zoo, so if your willing to argue go ahead.
Also, the reason Chimpanzees have such great memory skills is that they still retain the photographic memory that us Homosapiens lost when we advanced and evolved in language and communication technicalities.
Gazjohnful 2 months ago
@Gazjohnful Chimps are apes
shamjohnjerus 1 month ago
@shamjohnjerus And what is an ape?
Gazjohnful 1 month ago
@Gazjohnful A primate, which a monkey also is.
shamjohnjerus 1 month ago
@Gazjohnful Not a fucking monkey - go ask the scientists in your zoo.
TheSpearthrower 1 month ago
@Gazjohnful Um no, it's not a monkey. A chimpanzee is an ape. Apes aren't monkeys. They share a common ancestor with monkeys as do we, but that common ancestor predates both monkeys and apes. So see your tip about 'learning facts' - I strongly recommend you take your own advice instead of hypocritically berating people who know better than you. You clean dung for a living? Take people's ticket money? Go and ask someone if a chimp is a monkey. Then you can come apologise to me. ;)
TheSpearthrower 1 month ago
@Gazjohnful
Chimpanzee's are apes, learn your facts before you start patronising other people and certainly learn your facts before taking a job you obviously don't even know the basics about the species your working with.
takemetotheweasels 2 weeks ago
@Nixupiz3 it would not make a difference
fairyheli2 2 weeks ago
This chimp probably had a lot more practice, i mean if this was the only way I could get some dr pepper I would figure it out a little faster too
ch33s3ypwnr 1 year ago 4
If I was given 200.00 for correct answers, maybe I would have done as well. That is the difference in this experiment. Humans do better when rewards are presented.
newauthor 1 year ago
Lol. Do you know how long they must have been training the chimps to do this? The humans are seeing the test for the first time whereas the chimps have months or maybe years of training. Not a fair experiment if there is more than one variable.
RedDragon7198 1 year ago
@RedDragon7198 Where the numbers are placed is completely random. Where the numbers are placed when flashed on the screen is completely random. You cant train to do this when the numbers are randomly placed. All you have to know is how to count from 0-9 which isn't that hard. This just shows that chimps have a better picture memory then humans. Quit being so arrogant and self absorbed and take the loss in stride.
b4igetu 1 year ago
@b4igetu
I am not complaining about the chimps having a better picture memory than humans, maybe they do. I am not saying that humans should be able to out compete the chimps at this, maybe they can't. I am doubting the quality of the experiment itself. The chimps were conditioned for this using positive reinforcement. It might not have too big an impact, but there might be more than one variable in this experiment. That is all I was trying to say. Not being arrogant, just stating my opinion.
RedDragon7198 1 year ago
@RedDragon7198 They were just given positive reinforcement so they keep there mind on what they were supposed to do. It would be like telling the person to remember where the numbers were and select the right one. Even if a person were offered $1000 for getting it right I still doubt they would be able to get it.
b4igetu 1 year ago
@b4igetu I don't think RedDragon7198 is being arrogant. He's simply saying that the chimps have the advantage of performing a practiced task, whereas the person performs this for the first time..
iDombo 1 year ago
@b4igetu Actually this is a standard visual memory test found in older psychology books mostly by Russian Authors. It was practiced in most communist countries for evaluatin children visual memory capabilities. In Western countries there is SImon Says. Simon Says is much better test than this because this test is easily done. I can get all 10 correct on first try at iluminosity because the test there is only 5 digits. This test is usually done with 7 - 9 digits. Officialy I scored 9 in 9 digits.
TheTurboBest 7 months ago
And who said calling Black People for monkeys isnt a compliment?
Xionaro 1 year ago
This chimp isn't even hardly trying.
esca8652 1 year ago
dude if i had this memory i would be so fucked with maths
TheDudeFrom0Z 1 year ago
Chimps are very good at remembering things.
But Humans have much bigger intelligence
SuperSnorlaxForums 1 year ago
@SuperSnorlaxForums Chimpanzees have also very high level of intelligence, they can make plans for the future, have empathy, deceive others, etc
laurens890 1 year ago
@laurens890
I agree. There smart but I'm saying that we are even more smarter.
Just they have an incredible memory bank.
SuperSnorlaxForums 1 year ago
People here should take in consideration the amount of Sudoku-champions around the world who can get a huge Sudoku-puzzle right in under a minute, so yes humans CAN be better at this sort of thing. Its still amazing to see a chimp do this thing better then the avarage person regardless.
Agentbromsnor 1 year ago
@Agentbromsnor
But if you're going to take the BEST humans you have to take the best chimps as well. And if the average chimp is this good, imagine how good the best are?
Ilikemustard 1 year ago
People, are you seriously becoming jealous of a chimp? Get over it... I know it sucks be limited in life ,but you have to move on.
Halocuber 1 year ago
They should consider dispensing cash for humans.
DeltaFlyer0 1 year ago 13
instead of comparing this to humans and being defensive that humans are actually smarter, i think people should just realize that this is pretty amazing
MTP412 1 year ago 5
I wonder if a human could be just as good if they practiced. It seems like the chimps living at the lab have two things to do in a day, it's either fling feces at each other or play this computer game that gives you food, hmm, decisions decisions. If we sat at our computers for several weeks practicing this thing, I feel like people could be just as good.
steveo72990 1 year ago 2
children have better short term memory than adults. they had 9 year olds memorize the order for a longer time than apes, and still got it incorrect. it suggests that apes have better short term memory than humans, but doesn't necessarily make them more intelligent.
MissVampireDiaries 1 year ago
@MissVampireDiaries It didn't SAY it made them more intelligent
Tha0wn4g3 1 year ago
sweet lord he plays for blood
ab0rtion 1 year ago
people acutally have really good memory better than chimps sometimes only for some people photo graph memory and also humans are smarter we build cars and everything
DestinSoulx 2 years ago
@destinsoulx
Wow did this video anger u?
but seriously in some aspects chimps are smarter
mcskinny123 2 years ago
Uh oh, with this new bit of research, they might start employing chimps, and then most southerners would be out of a job. ;-P
Think about teaching chimps to do simple tasks like factory work, and all you'd have to pay them in is peanuts! Wouldn't that be awesome? =P
Xadreos 2 years ago 5
Lol, nah.
DavidTheCatholic 2 years ago
@Xadreos cheap way of producing, thats for sure, and i dont think monkey's will take over buisness in factories, the robots will
MRnasienie 1 year ago
can a chimp do a calculus equation?
DJMagneticAttraction 2 years ago
these chimps do know some japanese symbols. They can link colours to the right japanese word/symbol(no joke). Calculations maybe a bit to far for them lol, but they certainly are very smart.
laurens678 2 years ago
thats not very complex... why do you suppose english written colors are more difficult to learn than japanese symbols? If we were born in japan it would be natural to us. The language doesn't matter, the fact is chimps can do simple correlations and simple problem solving, nothing more.
DJMagneticAttraction 2 years ago
apparently, if they're trained properly, they can do it faster than you can
sin331 2 years ago 2
90% of the time the bonobos get the memory test right whereas uni students could only get it right 24% of the time
invisible0tom 2 years ago
I guess the only thing to do about that is stick all the chimp's in uni & put all the student's in zoo's, make's perfect sense to me.
kingsman565 2 years ago
Hahaha Chimpanzees care more about peanuts then humans man when he said that i cracked up sooo hard
MistuhShyGuy 2 years ago
wow that monkey is very good remember numbers
kupamon 2 years ago
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I could beat a chimp,with a fuckin big stick through the bars of its cage
councilglasses 2 years ago
You fuckin yanks are mad,chimps can make fire fuck off.Planet of the apes was'nt a fuckin documentry.
councilglasses 2 years ago
theres no way i can beat the chimp
hizzleyo 2 years ago
chimps are pro
riz44 2 years ago 34
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I hate it when one animal is better than us at something then us, and they are INSTANTLY considered genius. The chimp had motivation, and they have always had this skill in their BRAIN. Dolphins can do 20 foot jump/flips. We can't. So? Sharks can smell blood miles away! so? Ants carry 50 times their body weight on their heads. So? Just cause they are better then us at one thing, doesn't mean we can't beat them at many other things.
OrangeAndBlack1000 2 years ago
I agree us humans have 1,000,000 more things on our mind than a chimp and this means a chimp can just concentrate on developing its memory
Cozzi0 2 years ago
They have better short term memories. But their long term memories aren;t so good. That's why they don't evolve as fast as us - they figure shit out pretty fast. But they can;t remember how they did an hour later.
etienbjel 2 years ago
Are you seriously implying that evolution is related to memory?
baguazhang2 2 years ago
It is, actually. Everything we (and every living organism) are is attributable to evolution, including our capacity for long or short-term memory, as well as all other mental capabilities! :D
Baraciel 2 years ago
actually this is probably a good theory the reason why we probably evolved was because of our long term memory we rememebr important things from the past and built on it.
Cozzi0 2 years ago
This is actually a pretty good observation, however it is a look into social evolution and not biological evolution. Since memories aren't inherited, but rather, taught. ^_^
Baraciel 2 years ago
Their long term memory is actually quite remarkable. For example, most chimps and other greater apes can recognize primatologists, professors, or zookeepers they were fond of even after several decades of not having seen them.
One shouldn't underestimate their mental capacity, they are a mirror into our own humanity.
Baraciel 2 years ago
Chimps are the smartest animals and they are identical to humans 98%. No surprise that they do better on this test. Maybe they are smarter? The main reason we're at the top of the food chain is because we're the only species that has interlocking thumbs, no lie.
Stinger2121 2 years ago
i think the idea isnt that they're smarter. its that theyre more determined when it comes to reward. probably because their survivalists and food is a necessity, so they learn to get it. chimps dont do high level math. they could only count 1-9
aslongasbassstrings 2 years ago
I've got to say, I've taken these types of tests many times before but did not do as well as the chimps did in this video. With practice, I could remember about 7 or 8 numbers that flashed quickly on the screen, losing about half the time. Like the chimp, I was motivated to do well, just through a different means.
baguazhang2 2 years ago
This is a test of working memory. We are the only species that has a developed language..and the planning part of our brain (mostly prefrontal cortex), and the part associated mostly with intelligence, speech, memory, learning, etc. the cortex are more developed than any creature.
Sure a chimp may be able to do this better, or a turtle may remember how to get to its mating place thousands of miles away many years later...but they don't compare to humans. Just look around you to see the diff.
FearOfTheFlesh 2 years ago
uh, hello. this chimp was TRAINED! the man wasn't.
OrangeAndBlack1000 2 years ago
no you idiot. we also sweat throughout our WHOLE body. No other animal (except horses) can do that. We ran creatures to death, discovered fire, made weapons, and much more things than a CHIMP. So don't defend them. there is a site where you try that out, and i beat the chimp. All you need is the motivation.
OrangeAndBlack1000 2 years ago
chimps can make fire and weapons. And they handle there weapons responsibly unlike us who made several animals extinct
hizzleyo 2 years ago
@hizzleyo chimps will rule over us one day
fairyheli2 2 years ago
no, the only reason we are at the top of the food chain is because we were smart enough to develop technology.
sourdiezel0916 2 years ago 2
Apes have technology too. It may not be as complex and sophisticated as ours, but they still have it. ^_^
Baraciel 2 years ago
@Stinger2121 No, the main reason we're at the top of the food chain is because we're the only species that has INCREDIBLE, UTTERLYM INDBLOWING INTELLIGENCE that allows us to
kill any threatening predator with the push of a trigger and other useful things. Chimps don't come close to our level of intelligence, and anyway - humans AREN'T the only species with opposable thumbs.
Gaiacarra 2 years ago
I was kidding. Calm down. Lol.
Stinger2121 2 years ago
@Gaiacarra , you're a dumbass. Intelligence and memory has nothing to do with each other.
Halocuber 1 year ago
@Halocuber Id say you're wrong since you need memory to build intelligence.
Lesouder5555Nature 1 year ago
@Lesouder5555Nature , intelligence is just abstract thought, understanding, reasoning, planning, problem solving, communication, learning and learning from the experience. Nothing to do with intelligence...
Halocuber 1 year ago
@Lesouder5555Nature They simply have higher short-term memory then us i think.
Oriente7 1 year ago
Operant conditioning, righty-o.
SGUSOMUSA 2 years ago
Incredibly interesting. The chimps seem to react reflexively or by muscle memory. However the position of the numbers seems to be random. The power of classical conditioning is demonstrated here.
SGUSOMUSA 2 years ago
Not to nitpick, but this isn't really classical (Pavlovian) conditioning. There isn't a neutral stimulus being presented here that ellicits a response.
If anything it's operant conditioning, since there is a reward (peanut) presented for completing the task, but I don't think it's really that either. No one is trying to modify their behavior...
I just think chimpanzees have an extraordinary short term, high intake, memory, and this just illustrates that.
powerfulpup 2 years ago 2
I just wanted to point out that average humans do have latent abilities that allow them to surpass even the greatest geniuses in many areas. Humans can accurately count hundreds of dots flashed for an instant on a screen, perform complex mathematical calculations like 2.583 x10^4.2 in the blink of an eye, remember the order of hundreds of numbers, and probably much more. The challenge is unlocking this hidden potential, then refining it to make it useful.
baguazhang2 2 years ago
In case anybody wants to see if they can do it luminosity has a game called Top Chimp in which you do the same drill shown in the video against fiction chimps
note: I've beaten the last level Nim "The Doctor" Chimpsky
CerebralPrince10 2 years ago
excuse my grammar in my previous post I needed to shorten words to make the text fit
CerebralPrince10 2 years ago
Accordin 2 evolution humans evolved from da chimp Da diff is chimps use both da left and right side of their brains. in our society we R trained 2 use less (notably da right/creative side of da brain). Dis drill merely requires a somewhat fotografic memory Humans R capable of doing this drill but it'll require use of da right side of da brain (discouraged by school system) 2 take a picture of da entire board as oposed 2 trying 2 remember da individual position of each numba (left/logical brain)
CerebralPrince10 2 years ago
For those of you who can speed read (500-3000 wpm) this wont be so difficult for you because your used capturing more than one thing at a time
CerebralPrince10 2 years ago
Our brains are built slightly different from that of chimpanzee's, where they have better memory then us, and we have other kognitive advantages. In fact it was our abillity to really cooperate on difficult tasks that made our success:)
bababuba 3 years ago
Oh my God... you spelled "cognitive" KOGNITITVE when talking about humans' "cognitive advantages"!!! Irony...
Nmorg7 3 years ago
wow! IS THIS FOR THE GREATER GOOD? We both express happiness, sadness, fear and despair. Chimps who have lost a loved one will grieve, becoming depressed,
reluctant to interact, and refusing to eat.
An emotional trait that people deem most uniquely human is empathy.
Chimps show sympathy and empathy for each other, and react
emotionally to humans who are in pain.
originof8 3 years ago
From the abstract of the new study: "The present report shows that when two humans are given practice in the Inoue and Matsuzawa (2007) memory task, their accuracy levels match those of Ayumu [i.e. the chimp]. " This is NOT to say that chimps are stupid (they are not) and this is NOT to say that evolution is wrong (it is instead right). I would be surprised if the media would now report on the "killjoy" data presented by Silberberg and Kearns. And that is a shame really.
leipzigbased 3 years ago
humens have BAD memory thats is a fact
nategrier2003 3 years ago
give him a break hes a chimp for gods sake!
SimplyTheVest 3 years ago
I don't buy their conclusions. The chimp has obviously trained extensively to perform this task and is well-practiced. Spend a few months teaching a human to select numbers in order and he'll become good too. It's like any kind of puzzle game. I'm surprised the researchers didn't consider such a basic objection.
Unisonus 3 years ago
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tequilla333 3 years ago
are you a scientist, that you don't buy it? are you a researcher or something? you're not right, the chimps were not teaching in order. read about something before you critisize.
and watch films about Koko the gorilla-she knows over a 1000 signs, so that she can "talk" with people. by chance?
tequilla333 3 years ago
Try to use your noggin. I promise that you're allowed to do that without a Ph.D. You don't need to be a scientist to understand that practice improves performance. You do know that the animals were TRAINED for this, right? I hope you don't think they were simply asked. LOL. They were trained via basic conditioning techniques and became proficient. The humans were not trained, they were not practiced, and therefore they were less skilled.
Unisonus 2 years ago
Even if a human practices this for a long time, it can't do what the chimps can, they seem to do it effortlessly.
dinmagic 3 years ago
No way, this type of game responds extremely well to practice. The humans didn't know what they were doing. The chimps had been practicing all day for weeks or months.
They do this for publicity and research grants.
ILikeGirlsWthBigEyes 3 years ago
It's so hard to accept that humans are inferior in many aspects to other animals?
ccchackalll 3 years ago
Humans have a weird attitude toward the "non-speaking", if only apes, monkeys AND FETUS' could speak, maybe the world would be a different place. Humans associate non-speaking to mean DEAD, NOT IMPORTANT, NOT VALUABLE, NON FUNCTIONING, ILL EQUIPPED, ETC.
siouxsie00 3 years ago
I've never heard a chimp advocate argue a pro live position. this is highly interesting to me. You seem to be arguing for primate intelligence while disqualifying man primate morality. I'm eagerly anticipating your response to the ansewer. Preferably minus scripture as I'm not an ...*evolutionist?* fill the blank. ok... you go.
Flintknappingtips 3 years ago
I wonder if my purple belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu would allow me to out wrestle a 2 year old chimp
straightflushnuts 3 years ago
Well thats all fine and dandy, they had 6 chimps but did they have more than one human, hopefully so. That wouldnt be too much of an expeirment if the human subject wasn't too bright. lol
Snowboardbb86 3 years ago
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How about Black v Human
sfreeman81 3 years ago
How about you go jump off a very tall building you racist piece of shit.
monstermash9 3 years ago 3
im not racist i have ethnic friends how about you jump off a building
sfreeman81 3 years ago
Says the racist
ctpmn 3 years ago
My question is whether the chimps had any sort of learning period before the task to become familiar with it. You could bring a human in, give them directions and expect them to perform the task. You cannot do the same to a chimp. They have to become familiar with how to perform the task. So, these results could POSSIBLY demonstrate that the chimps are performing the task more quickly and accurately because they have more experience with this particular task. No one can say for sure, though.
jsumudio 3 years ago
what i dont understand is how people deny evolution, i mean come on, after watching this 2 min video just in fact proves the fact of evolution right here
cRuff00 3 years ago
i agree
bongowongowongo 3 years ago
Actually, this segment doesn't really imply anything at all about evolution, and this is coming from someone who believes in evolution.
Also, in science, we never prove anything. All we can do is continue providing evidence for hypotheses. When a substantial amount of research provides evidence for the hypothesis, it becomes a theory, then eventually a law, but never becomes 100% proven.
jsumudio 3 years ago
still, lol
cRuff00 3 years ago
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That was a hand of a woman ,now it's clear why the chimps won, women are pathetic.
tigerpanzer1944 3 years ago
lol
cRuff00 3 years ago
LMFAO.
Kyprix 3 years ago
haha true true :D
muflonpl 3 years ago
Younger=Better memory/learn faster
Also, chimpanzees need this kind of intelligence for survival more than humans. It doesn't make them smarter.
tehUBERn00blet 3 years ago
Well, you head-down to the rainforest and compete, sonny, and see who proclaims themselves the 'smartest.'
Pollther 3 years ago
Go Chimps! <3 you guys
FifthApe 3 years ago
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Chimps won because the humans representatives were Japenese --;
Aiyoukim 3 years ago
lol in africa ppl eat chimps
i cant believe such low breeds eat higher forms of life than they are
HopesLastStand 3 years ago
lmao typical homosapien.. but of course if i was takin part in this experiment i know the outcome already.. BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ HEEHEE
MermaidOfTheAbyss 3 years ago
That guy got owned by a chimp.
chlee0902 3 years ago
So? All this proves is that human brains and chimp brains are tuned differently for our respective environments. Our brains are 3 times bigger, but chimps are more autistic.
It's a very interesting experiment, but it can't be viewed as a comparison in intelligence.
Dirtfire 3 years ago
I suppose you're the guy in the video who care about what I type.
chlee0902 3 years ago
Chimps are awesome. When I'm King of the World I guarantee a chimp in every classroom, a chimp card dealer in every casino, chimp accountants and a chimp in every commercial doing human things while the humans do chimp things.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago 20
Why don't aliens put us through tests like these instead of the live autopsies? They have enough physical research done, why don't they give us fun puzzles in return for small snack treats?
CentabyteZero 4 years ago 2
maybe all the luxury stuff is alien treat, how would u know? :)
chameleon1905 3 years ago
this is amazing! i wanna try paintballing agains apes!
AmsConf1l1ct 4 years ago 2
They'd get pissed and bite your nads off AmsConf1l1ct.
War is something chimps understand quite well.. playing war not so much.
Experiments like this are done with young chimps that play vs fight.
human children play around and sometimes get hurt but when we get older we play around less as fighting becomes more serious.
Adult chimps who would understand war would probably not stick to the rules.. you stung me with the paintball so I'll eat your testicles.
abram730 3 years ago
how do they know how to count
readygo242 4 years ago
They were taught by a highly trained team of slightly more evolved primates.
CentabyteZero 4 years ago 3
i think this is just amazing. what an interesting experiment! i would like to see some other projects they are working on in the sanctuary.
laurenmargaux 4 years ago
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The chimps probably just constantly did this and they decided to bring in a human to do it for the first time.
HulleGranz 4 years ago
The humans were trained for 6 months
laurens890 4 years ago 4
the chimp is just a man with a fancy dress. lol
haidls 4 years ago 5