It's so easy for some to blame Christianity for the evil perpetrated by Columbus and the Spanish conquistadors. Could it be that they let their own selfish greed supercede everything else? The conquistadors were hypocrites and did not live up to the Christian standard to love other people as themselves. A few good souls did speak out against the evils committed by the conquistadors. Like Bartolome de Las Casas.
Thank you for this beautiful and sad story,of the Taino people but let's not hate but learn not to repeat this extermination and slavery,we have the D.N.A of three races we are a race of only love,return to your noble ways my people.This still happening in Jewish people,the African slaves,in other parts of the world,may our god bring only peace we will returm the Taino.
We have a day for Christopher because we have no choice. The white man in America doesn't care how we feel as people. They don't want to acknowlege our taino roots and have no respect for hispanic, latinos however you want to call yourself. You need to be a white looking hispanic who speak without an accent and then you blend well. Sad for those who blend well forget or don't even care to know where they stem from.
And Why Do We Celebrate Christerpher Columbas, and even gave him a frinken day after him??.............Columbas wasn't a mighty Guy That Discover America; he was a historicly evil douche bag!
bein as a man of european decent, i apologize for my ancestors ignorance. if i could go back in time and stop all the cruelties of man i would set the story straight. its sad :.....(
the 9 hells cycle ended in 1992....we were expecting people coming from the east ...white..."if they come with a good way remembering we come from one great family....it will be heaven on earth...."if they come with the mask of death....it will be as if the native peoples are in the dust( for 500 years)...the awakening of the 7th fire, 7 generations from the coquest....now awakening..."the spirit"...is returning: love generosity , gentleness.....ect. lets see how much weve learned
the 9 hells cycle ended in 1992....we were expecting people coming from the east ...white..."if they come with a good way remembering we come from one great family....it will be heaven on earth...."if they come with the mask of death....it will be as if the native peoples are in the dust( for 500 years)...the awakening of the 7th fire, 7 generations from the coquest....now awakening..."the spirit"...is returning: love generosity , gentleness.....ect. lets see how much weve learned.!?
The "National Indigenous Festival" (Festival Nacional Indígena) which honors the memory of Hayuya and the Taino heritage is celebrated annually on November in the town of Jayuya, Puerto Rico. This year will take place on November 19-22, 2009 making it the 40th year of this festival. There is a monument of Hayuya, the only one of its kind to be dedicated to a Taino Cacique, located in Jayuya's Cultural Center next to a Taino tomb.
Thats because we are brothers but they seperated us from each other. Why do you think these so called African Americans and so called Indians were made slaves. Dueuteronomy 28:15,32,36,49-50 basicly the whole chapter is talking about what will happened to his people. These devils are trying to steal Gods promises from you.
your an idiot. their were White slaves to you idiot. Arab slave and chinese slaves..how else do you think Europe was built so strong.you dont think eUROpeans were slaves 2 for Africans, Europeans & Arabs.. every race has sufferd ppl like you only view suffering to the people you like..which makes you a shallow inept human being.. P.s Slavery started out in Africa not Europe and still goes on in Africa..You created it others abused of it..and done it better..
y en la escuela te dicen, los españoles hicieron muchas conquistas, como si fueran heroes y eran unos hijos de puta, violaron mujeres y mataron niños.
Estoy de acuerdo estos Hijo de puta se aprovecharon de nuestra gente y los mataron por oro gente buena nuestros Indios eran personas buenas. ESPANA deveria disculparse hoy dia por los acesinatos cometidos por Cristobal colon Borracho asesino, mato mujeres ninos por oro.
fuckng miserable muertos de hambre spniars they r as rich as they r from all the stolen gold from our island..me repugna tener parte de esa sangre en mi..all they want is power and dont care about humanity..that is why terrible things happend to them..Karma is a bitch and those fuckers will pay for what they hav done to us
If you guys are not aware yet. 65% of Puerto Ricans are White Spaniord Blood. 20% Have Black blood, and 15% has Indian blood. DNA test conducted in this decade. Although most of us have a higher percentage from any of these Blood lines. One could honestly say "Donde esta tu abuela?"
Of course...65% contain White Spainord blood...from the males. Why? Cause they ruled. DNA test concluded they received DNA from Taino women and not white spaniard women.
MtDna from maternal line pass down to boys or girls they get highest percentage Taino native in their bloods..but if male's Taino native from his mother pass down to his kids they wont get it unless its female lines only.
Is that why every white woman that I see crossing the street has a Black Boy friend now? I guess they didn't get it in the past centuries and now they are getting it as much as they can.......Nice! LOL.
you wish..you just want that to be true...Black people have done as much as they can to overhype innteracial dating..no one is obsessed with it like you lot.. Halle Berry dates a White Man do white men care? no...
Sad, and sadder are the spainards that have to live with this sin in their blood, forever.
That is why I feel NO sympathy for all the spaniards killed in the spanishamerican war. Although it was an imperialist move by the United States, Spain deserved it.
indians are the REAL christians...love each other as you love yourself...share all you have. those are the basics. real christianity is LOVE SERVICE SIMPLICIY...do not take more than you need...THATS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART...we are still alive! Iroqua, thank you for posting this.
that's funny u say that: they even had a communion rite where they ate yuca and yuca bread (known as casabe) which was the embodiment of their god Yoka-hu (Yucajú, the spirit of yuca or cassava) ... so the tainos were actually participating in the sacrament of communion before the spanish came
It is a sad history indeed...No one in this continent suffered more...The first enslaved by Europeans in this continent and now only kept alive by the few left...Only traces of our ancestry are seen in our physical traits and customs as we have to still fight so that disbelievers cn see what is left of a nobl an dhumble people...As they say, the triumphant ones write history and so they did...Ponce De Leon died in Florida as he was fooled into thinking that there was a fountains of youth...
The craziest part is that there is a city in PR named PONCE after Juan Ponce De Leon who was a racist Spaniard, who was not born in the island and only went there to STEAL the gold, and who had 6,000 Tainos massacred in one night. He committed genocide against the island natives, and now has a city named after him. It's as if Israel had a city named after Hitler. A huge affront and insult to the decent, hard working Taino ancestors.
Dont you wonder what happened to a great deal of the gold mined by the Tainos?
It's in Rome..The pope used it to decorate the ceiling of the sixteen chapel...the church he worships in...Gold that is drenched in the blood of my ancestors...Where does evil really live...
ps....man do u people even read and learn about ur history ,or do you guys just like to brag about being a taino cuz u think its cool or somethin???? sad ,i read about taino culture cuz im very interested in the tribe that encountered columbus and im not even taino im part crow
sorry people i sounded like a pompus asswipe in my last comment...u dont know how something sounds like until you re-read it yea man ppl thought they were extict,but recent dna shows that some people in the carribean has strands of mostly the maternal dna,why mostly maternal? cuz of the rapes of commited by spaniards on native woman,there are some paternal dna but thats kinda rare,,which proves they were some both men and women taino left,,very little but were some indeed
maternal=mother??? right cus u said the maternal is when the spanards raped the women and paternal is when the taino is a male. im just tryna make it clear for myself.
Kanata, there's MtDna shown more than 50% Tainos in our bloods (mitochondria...maternal line...yes only passed down thur greatgrand mother to grand mother to mother and their children, for a example this guy who posted a video he is mohawk half Taino....75% Taino bloods of his...so is other cree half Taino, navajo/Taino and much more that i spoke with and yes my grandma is also Taino native mixed with spainard that's it...
My poor people have dealt with so much pain, from our African ancestors to our Native American ancestors, Puerto Ricans are literally products of rape and bondage, I think thats why we are soooo passionate about out heritage, no one else can take it away from us after all the years of suffering and bondage our people have endured. Viva la BORIQUEN
these were all good educattional videos. was it all columbus fault? none of us would be here if this did not happen. was it more the vatican fault? religion? racism? etc...
why should we honor a man who was responcible for the genocide of our dear people he stole our land stole our integrity why honor him? wat sets him apart from dictators lik hitler && stalin? what makes him any better god have mercy on his soul!
Not to forget the highest authority in those times as is TODAY is the ROYALTY, and the VATICAN, their fortunes are based on gold, precious stones, etc. it was stolen to our land by their bloody orders. If we want to start something these 2 entities should be targeted and questioned. Great video, not too many hits?, let help to educate our people, and spread the word. Thanks.
no fuck spain for all the shit theyve done not america. we only celebrate it b/c everyone thinks that columbus discovered america but he only discovered the west indies.
the west indies is america,the new world,,just because ppl here constantly call this country america the proper real name is ''The United States of America'' not just plain ol america ,what America really is,is the whole western hemisphere north and south AMERICA, and we do not celebrate columbus day cuz he ''discovered america'' we celebrate it cuz he was the first to start colonizing america,which led to other colonizing which lead to the new western world,colonize not discover,c'mon ppl!!
america was named after amerigo vespucci,,they named it after him because he was the first european to set foot on the mainland of the neworld (which took place in south america) as for the vikings yea they were the first euros to land here but they didnt colonize any towns,like i said befor columbus was the first to COLONIZE the new world that is why we celebrate columbus day
so sad!! i think Mel Gibson should do a movie of this, like apocalyto...
Oliver311087 1 month ago
spaniards are an always will be cocksuckers.now they pay.
TheSonyb90 1 month ago
Have the Spaniards or Catholics ever made any formal apologies?
killerhook07 1 month ago
Thank you for sharing this! I am featuring it on my blog at irmarosasdotcom
irmarosaswebsite 3 months ago
It's so easy for some to blame Christianity for the evil perpetrated by Columbus and the Spanish conquistadors. Could it be that they let their own selfish greed supercede everything else? The conquistadors were hypocrites and did not live up to the Christian standard to love other people as themselves. A few good souls did speak out against the evils committed by the conquistadors. Like Bartolome de Las Casas.
Ohaiku91 5 months ago 2
Thank you for this beautiful and sad story,of the Taino people but let's not hate but learn not to repeat this extermination and slavery,we have the D.N.A of three races we are a race of only love,return to your noble ways my people.This still happening in Jewish people,the African slaves,in other parts of the world,may our god bring only peace we will returm the Taino.
econolares 6 months ago
@econolares dont give us that bull shit
machetezone 6 months ago
Christopher Columbus is worst than Hitler..
yeriih11 8 months ago
We have a day for Christopher because we have no choice. The white man in America doesn't care how we feel as people. They don't want to acknowlege our taino roots and have no respect for hispanic, latinos however you want to call yourself. You need to be a white looking hispanic who speak without an accent and then you blend well. Sad for those who blend well forget or don't even care to know where they stem from.
hvnlyangellee 8 months ago
And Why Do We Celebrate Christerpher Columbas, and even gave him a frinken day after him??.............Columbas wasn't a mighty Guy That Discover America; he was a historicly evil douche bag!
TheManiNicole 11 months ago
FUCK CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS !!!!!!!!!!!!
BEmagiK 11 months ago
me niego hacer yamado ispano, porque solamente me recuerda a espana.
Soy latino y haunque lleve sangre espanola la niego y me ofende tenerda.
soy hijo e decendiente de la gran madre taina.
EliteAquarius 1 year ago
bein as a man of european decent, i apologize for my ancestors ignorance. if i could go back in time and stop all the cruelties of man i would set the story straight. its sad :.....(
sugarcane2013 1 year ago 2
@sugarcane2013 From a Dominican: Thank you. That means a lot to us.
crow33215 2 months ago
THIS IS SO SAD MUY TRISTE I ALMOST SHEAD A TEAR :0 ;(
ANTPHRESSH89 1 year ago
THIS IS SO SAD MUY TRISTE I ALMOST SHEAD A TEAR :0
ANTPHRESSH89 1 year ago
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the 9 hells cycle ended in 1992....we were expecting people coming from the east ...white..."if they come with a good way remembering we come from one great family....it will be heaven on earth...."if they come with the mask of death....it will be as if the native peoples are in the dust( for 500 years)...the awakening of the 7th fire, 7 generations from the coquest....now awakening..."the spirit"...is returning: love generosity , gentleness.....ect. lets see how much weve learned
21bree 1 year ago
the 9 hells cycle ended in 1992....we were expecting people coming from the east ...white..."if they come with a good way remembering we come from one great family....it will be heaven on earth...."if they come with the mask of death....it will be as if the native peoples are in the dust( for 500 years)...the awakening of the 7th fire, 7 generations from the coquest....now awakening..."the spirit"...is returning: love generosity , gentleness.....ect. lets see how much weve learned.!?
21bree 1 year ago
Taino native pride!
TheTainoWarrior 1 year ago 2
puerto rico got all the races in there
BronxBeauty8 1 year ago
Readmit: You are a real idiot. If they treated the indians bad they are not christians learn before you say ignorant comments
jsanturce 1 year ago
@jsanturce If they say they're christian, how can u say they aren't? They brought the church & bibles with them, didn't they?
NattyakaQuique 1 year ago
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The "National Indigenous Festival" (Festival Nacional Indígena) which honors the memory of Hayuya and the Taino heritage is celebrated annually on November in the town of Jayuya, Puerto Rico. This year will take place on November 19-22, 2009 making it the 40th year of this festival. There is a monument of Hayuya, the only one of its kind to be dedicated to a Taino Cacique, located in Jayuya's Cultural Center next to a Taino tomb.
Chayanne180 2 years ago
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nanami190 2 years ago
dont alot of black men look taino indian like kobe bryant.
papoopse100 2 years ago
Thats because we are brothers but they seperated us from each other. Why do you think these so called African Americans and so called Indians were made slaves. Dueuteronomy 28:15,32,36,49-50 basicly the whole chapter is talking about what will happened to his people. These devils are trying to steal Gods promises from you.
ric4022 2 years ago
yup good job
Dudex58 2 years ago
your an idiot. their were White slaves to you idiot. Arab slave and chinese slaves..how else do you think Europe was built so strong.you dont think eUROpeans were slaves 2 for Africans, Europeans & Arabs.. every race has sufferd ppl like you only view suffering to the people you like..which makes you a shallow inept human being.. P.s Slavery started out in Africa not Europe and still goes on in Africa..You created it others abused of it..and done it better..
jondelos 2 years ago
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@jondelos go fuck your mom
boricuamovement 1 year ago
collumbus as a sephardim responsible for this holocost
firefox8192 2 years ago
I almost had tears in my eyes at the end of that.
ItsyBitsyChelly 2 years ago
These videos are great!
ItsyBitsyChelly 2 years ago
where can i get this video in its entirety? PLEASE HELP!!!
lorialis1026 2 years ago
y en la escuela te dicen, los españoles hicieron muchas conquistas, como si fueran heroes y eran unos hijos de puta, violaron mujeres y mataron niños.
arianasaki 2 years ago
los espanoles le cambiaban espejo por oro alo k no fueron esclavo
carameloxx 2 years ago
does anyone know where I can buy this dvd from. . if its available ?
aguantamelo 3 years ago
ESPANOLES MARIKAS
nycboribattlekatt1 3 years ago
Estoy de acuerdo estos Hijo de puta se aprovecharon de nuestra gente y los mataron por oro gente buena nuestros Indios eran personas buenas. ESPANA deveria disculparse hoy dia por los acesinatos cometidos por Cristobal colon Borracho asesino, mato mujeres ninos por oro.
puertorro67 3 years ago
bueno mas o meno media de nuestra sangre es espanola mixlada con taino (asi soy yo) y hay otro mixlado con sangre africana
carameloxx 2 years ago
fuckng miserable muertos de hambre spniars they r as rich as they r from all the stolen gold from our island..me repugna tener parte de esa sangre en mi..all they want is power and dont care about humanity..that is why terrible things happend to them..Karma is a bitch and those fuckers will pay for what they hav done to us
lolitathecrazyone 3 years ago 2
no that's ydna side...if u read or learn about Mtdna side u will see Taino bloodines has more precentage than spaniards and/or africans
Deafmender 3 years ago
If you guys are not aware yet. 65% of Puerto Ricans are White Spaniord Blood. 20% Have Black blood, and 15% has Indian blood. DNA test conducted in this decade. Although most of us have a higher percentage from any of these Blood lines. One could honestly say "Donde esta tu abuela?"
delmaroeb 3 years ago
Of course...65% contain White Spainord blood...from the males. Why? Cause they ruled. DNA test concluded they received DNA from Taino women and not white spaniard women.
spankybighead 2 years ago
MtDna from maternal line pass down to boys or girls they get highest percentage Taino native in their bloods..but if male's Taino native from his mother pass down to his kids they wont get it unless its female lines only.
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
Well yes. Bottom line the maternal DNA came mostly from Taino women.
spankybighead 2 years ago
so obiviously ur right ydna shown more spaniard bloods but MtDna side shows more Taino bloods so we r mixed native and spaniard
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
Is that why every white woman that I see crossing the street has a Black Boy friend now? I guess they didn't get it in the past centuries and now they are getting it as much as they can.......Nice! LOL.
delmaroeb 2 years ago
White women are just doing what men have been doing for centuries. Enjoying the "toys" of the world at their discretion.
spankybighead 2 years ago
you wish..you just want that to be true...Black people have done as much as they can to overhype innteracial dating..no one is obsessed with it like you lot.. Halle Berry dates a White Man do white men care? no...
jondelos 2 years ago
Españoles modafocas
ISRRAEL81 3 years ago
fuck those modafukas europeans
CRISTODELPICACHO 3 years ago 3
FUCK YEAH, fucking colonist sons of bitches!!!! faggs
minutemenAREcowards 3 years ago 14
Sad, and sadder are the spainards that have to live with this sin in their blood, forever.
That is why I feel NO sympathy for all the spaniards killed in the spanishamerican war. Although it was an imperialist move by the United States, Spain deserved it.
ocharriez74 3 years ago
dont forget what the usa did to the north american indian my sis father is cherokee and african and eat junk and never get fat.
papoopse100 2 years ago
indians are the REAL christians...love each other as you love yourself...share all you have. those are the basics. real christianity is LOVE SERVICE SIMPLICIY...do not take more than you need...THATS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART...we are still alive! Iroqua, thank you for posting this.
littlewaitress 3 years ago 2
that's funny u say that: they even had a communion rite where they ate yuca and yuca bread (known as casabe) which was the embodiment of their god Yoka-hu (Yucajú, the spirit of yuca or cassava) ... so the tainos were actually participating in the sacrament of communion before the spanish came
saadaya 3 years ago
All of this evil came from Christianity. Fuck Christians and Jews and all Europeans as well.
Readmit 3 years ago 20
THAT THE HELL FUCK THEM
papoopse100 2 years ago
@Readmit what religion do you belive in ??
diztorcion666 11 months ago
@Readmit No, just Christianity. THAT was the cause of everyone else's suffering.
StarFoxAutobot 9 months ago
It is a sad history indeed...No one in this continent suffered more...The first enslaved by Europeans in this continent and now only kept alive by the few left...Only traces of our ancestry are seen in our physical traits and customs as we have to still fight so that disbelievers cn see what is left of a nobl an dhumble people...As they say, the triumphant ones write history and so they did...Ponce De Leon died in Florida as he was fooled into thinking that there was a fountains of youth...
MuzikLuvers 3 years ago
The craziest part is that there is a city in PR named PONCE after Juan Ponce De Leon who was a racist Spaniard, who was not born in the island and only went there to STEAL the gold, and who had 6,000 Tainos massacred in one night. He committed genocide against the island natives, and now has a city named after him. It's as if Israel had a city named after Hitler. A huge affront and insult to the decent, hard working Taino ancestors.
saadaya 3 years ago 2
true!!
ocharriez74 3 years ago 3
Good observation.
Niobe99 3 years ago
2012 purify people african and native people of european bad.
papoopse100 2 years ago
Dont you wonder what happened to a great deal of the gold mined by the Tainos?
It's in Rome..The pope used it to decorate the ceiling of the sixteen chapel...the church he worships in...Gold that is drenched in the blood of my ancestors...Where does evil really live...
MuzikLuvers 3 years ago 3
OMG the tainos welcomed Colunbus and in return he betrayed them to the Spaniards. They were sweet good hearted ppl.
gjanie 3 years ago 2
how? columbus was a bad man.
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago 2
ps....man do u people even read and learn about ur history ,or do you guys just like to brag about being a taino cuz u think its cool or somethin???? sad ,i read about taino culture cuz im very interested in the tribe that encountered columbus and im not even taino im part crow
kanata978 3 years ago
im interested b/c i thought they were extinct.
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
sorry people i sounded like a pompus asswipe in my last comment...u dont know how something sounds like until you re-read it yea man ppl thought they were extict,but recent dna shows that some people in the carribean has strands of mostly the maternal dna,why mostly maternal? cuz of the rapes of commited by spaniards on native woman,there are some paternal dna but thats kinda rare,,which proves they were some both men and women taino left,,very little but were some indeed
kanata978 3 years ago
maternal=mother??? right cus u said the maternal is when the spanards raped the women and paternal is when the taino is a male. im just tryna make it clear for myself.
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
Kanata, there's MtDna shown more than 50% Tainos in our bloods (mitochondria...maternal line...yes only passed down thur greatgrand mother to grand mother to mother and their children, for a example this guy who posted a video he is mohawk half Taino....75% Taino bloods of his...so is other cree half Taino, navajo/Taino and much more that i spoke with and yes my grandma is also Taino native mixed with spainard that's it...
Kuyari28 3 years ago
doesnt mean some of us or i am brag about it but i am proud of it to have Taino blood and am a member of Taino nation.
Kuyari28 3 years ago
My poor people have dealt with so much pain, from our African ancestors to our Native American ancestors, Puerto Ricans are literally products of rape and bondage, I think thats why we are soooo passionate about out heritage, no one else can take it away from us after all the years of suffering and bondage our people have endured. Viva la BORIQUEN
Chuckie1028 3 years ago
these were all good educattional videos. was it all columbus fault? none of us would be here if this did not happen. was it more the vatican fault? religion? racism? etc...
danteydavid 3 years ago
why should we honor a man who was responcible for the genocide of our dear people he stole our land stole our integrity why honor him? wat sets him apart from dictators lik hitler && stalin? what makes him any better god have mercy on his soul!
jussaname 3 years ago
Not to forget the highest authority in those times as is TODAY is the ROYALTY, and the VATICAN, their fortunes are based on gold, precious stones, etc. it was stolen to our land by their bloody orders. If we want to start something these 2 entities should be targeted and questioned. Great video, not too many hits?, let help to educate our people, and spread the word. Thanks.
crossward7 4 years ago 3
why do we honor a man like this. He stole from our people Freedom,Riches,Woman and our Honor. May the Lord have mercy on his soul.
Long live the Taino Indians and Our Home Perto Rico
maribel32822 4 years ago
May the lord have mercy on his soul, for what he did to our people and our Island of Puerto Rico. Down with Columbus Day
maribel32822 4 years ago
i say that to why do we have a day for a man who killed so many
jrwhitewolf 4 years ago 12
exactly
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
what the fuck!!!!! and we still honor columbus with a holiday!!! fuck america!!
skyz184 4 years ago
dude chill out
chuyitochuy 3 years ago
no fuck spain for all the shit theyve done not america. we only celebrate it b/c everyone thinks that columbus discovered america but he only discovered the west indies.
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
the west indies is america,the new world,,just because ppl here constantly call this country america the proper real name is ''The United States of America'' not just plain ol america ,what America really is,is the whole western hemisphere north and south AMERICA, and we do not celebrate columbus day cuz he ''discovered america'' we celebrate it cuz he was the first to start colonizing america,which led to other colonizing which lead to the new western world,colonize not discover,c'mon ppl!!
kanata978 3 years ago
i still think the viking guy dixcovered americas not this spanish fool. thats why we call it america after the dude.
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
america was named after amerigo vespucci,,they named it after him because he was the first european to set foot on the mainland of the neworld (which took place in south america) as for the vikings yea they were the first euros to land here but they didnt colonize any towns,like i said befor columbus was the first to COLONIZE the new world that is why we celebrate columbus day
kanata978 3 years ago
and batu....we dont friggin celebrate the columbus hell no not even in carribeans or turtle island.
Kuyari28 3 years ago
good
BatuSmoka808 3 years ago
fuck Columbus !
nabu2k7 4 years ago 5
Believe that...
Aplustradomus 4 years ago
fuck you
Bner39 4 years ago
fucking whithe trash still looking at spanish videos mamabicho bet your ugly wife is a spic too so cabron and fuck you red neck fagg
yzon33 4 years ago
you are so welcome
jrwhitewolf 4 years ago
That's why I don't celebrate Columbus Day.
Thanks for this video
TamakoAkai 4 years ago 3