ninjutsu does not fight like this. In ninjutsu you would for example grab the leg and put pressure on the knee bringing the opponent down and at the same time falling with your knee on the chest of your opponent. No coming back from that one.
Ninjutsu has not been/cannot be made into a sport. It is the least known of the martial arts. like Aikido was when Steve Seagal made it famous.
Esta bien la pelea pero....de Karate kyokushinkai poca cosa(donde esta ese espiritu de los kyokushin !?) y del ninjutsu...que decir, parece que no estiras mas las piernas para que no se te rompa el traje...donde esta esa flexibilidad, esa agilidad, etc...o simplemente eras un saco movil ?
I LOL when he was thinking he was Bruce Lee with his hands low blocking her jabs and kicks from a BIRD! who was prob 8" shorter 12" less reach and 70 lbs lighter than him.Then she kicked him in the head and nearly KO'd him. Thats the thing with pretend arts like this,they are ineffective.1st thing in Boxing kickboxing, Taekwondo,Karate etc is to protect your face. If a bird can kick him in face and almost KO him a bloke would knock his head from his shoulders. I know I certainly would.
She has a tell; she throws her hands up in the air before giving the front kick. Our "ninja" here isn't very good if he can't see that and exploit it. All he'd have to do would be slip to the side, scoop the leg and clothesline across her chest; the tell gives him more than enough warning, and puts her balance off enough that she'd go down easily.
@JCLeSinge Again, the Kyokushin ruleset would probably keep a lot of that from happening. It's like telling someone that it's okay to "lightly sweep/tackle/whatever" someone to the ground in Basketball or Golf. I know some branches do allow some sweeps, but I'm not sure which ones. It's mostly punches and kicks only without punching to the face.
@JCLeSinge I'd like to make the point I keep forgetting to make that what you've been saying so far sounds like good strategies. I was more or less just trying to figure out what good strategies would be considering the rules they were sparring under.
@Kendamu: Yeah, I get that. Some of the suggestions are potentially fatal, though, the head-tilt in particular... the yank on the shoulder can be nasty if there's some environmental hazard nearby to spin the opponent into (such as oncoming traffic), but that's street-fight thinking.
This kind of tit-for-tat, punch-kick-block sparring creates unrealistic ideas about fighting. Martial Arts works, but not if all the good moves are banned for "safety"; that they're not safe is kinda the point.
This is not Ninjutsu. If he knew what he was doing he would not move that way. You do not fight someone of another style by trying to move like them. He is sloppy and off balance. Not even a hint of ninpo or taijutsu. Nuff said!
Give me a break! I have trained in Karate before and also have trained in Bujinkan Ninjutsu for 14 years and can tell you this guy is nothing but another Karate-ka who is just pretending to be Ninja by putting on a black Gi. I see no Ninpo in his movement or skill what so ever. I don't even see him as being a decent Karate-ka. The girl has more skill.
Well, I must say the Kiukushin practitioner have shown pretty much skill. She landed two good rounhouse kicks at opponents head. I dont know what style of Ninjutsu the guy is in, but for beeing a black belt it's pretty strange to get caught twice, he didnt shows pretty much technique. My regards.
im all for people doing what they want... but im against lying... so yes.. you have the right to do what you want ( lie) and say you practice ninjutsu(which you dont) ,.... but i have the right to do what i want... and thats call out little noobtard liars like you.
hahah I never lied about anything, or said anything about ninjutsu being real anymore.
You're simply being ignorant and trying to MAKE people not want to try something even if it's not real. That's like me saying '' You're never going to get anywhere so don't TRY''
ah but theres where your wrong... i never said dont train in the bujinkan.
i never said dont train in any art... just be aware that not all of the claims made by people/groups are real....
personally i LIKE the bujinkan... i think its a really good adaption of all of the aspects of what we WANT ninjutsu to be,... i also think its about the closest you can get to ninjutsu anymore ( without spending 15+ years in a kobudo school)
How am I wrong? you're pretty much implying don't try ninjutsu anymore cuz today's ninjutsu isn't real from the countless Ninjutsu videos you keep commenting on. If you let people make their own mistakes, they learn, it's how people are.
I quit Ninjutsu along time ago, that how I corrected it, by trying it even though it was not real ninjutsu, In-corrections always follow by corrections, you do something wrong, you do something to make it right, you have a bad habit, you learn from it and make a good habit.
no, you quit bujinkan,, or whatever organization you belonged to, it wasnt ninjutsu ... you cannot quit something you never began... since you have never met someone who knows ninjutsu you never began training it....
i didnt understand the rest of the babbling you did here...
Masaaki Hatsumi is descended from ninja clans from the japans feudal past and still teaches the art. I dont know where you get the idea that the art of ninjutsu has died (which it hasnt) but with all due respect you are the noobtard here not him. Even if it had died they would not still have schools for it -.- and besides a martial art cannot die in a period of 40 years thats insane! and you called him a lying noobtard! good lord! -.-
takamatsu made up the ryu he taught to hatsumi as ninjutsu. he even told his friend watatani kiyoshe, author of the bugei ryuha daijiten, about it. we know this because of a personal anecdote included in the 3rd edition. as an unsourceable claim, it was also potetntially libel so it was removed from the 4th edition.
and you bring up the other reason hatsumi is so laughable, ninjutsu isnt a martial art.
@Creationsofmyown Wow wow easy man! What's with all this macho stuffs? I've only said what it looks like to me! Since seems to me you goes on ninjutsu vids only to take an argument with your hated "ninja fanboys". Besides, I'm not even a ninjutsu practitioner, and I've leaved Bujinkan many years ago. I was only saying what you call "love for truth" is indeed trolling around, and seems pretty useles to me, but if this makes you so mad you have to start insulting...LoL, I wont say anymore. Bye.
@Creationsofmyown Also, I know some REAL ninja, and I know they're real cause they have a cerificate of autenticity. They're soo fast and powerfull they've been in many competitions, even on tv! And they're so dangerous if you mess up with, if one of them hits you full speed, you would be dead for sure!!
uh huh... name one certificates from who?? no organization other than the koryu societies is qualified to certify them.... and they dont give certificates
you may also be interested to know that ninjutsu was historically NEVER a martial art...
you have been misled to follow a martial art masquerading as the feudal japanese skill of espionage.
@Creationsofmyown Get ready, here it comes...They are....KAWASAKI NINJAS!
Haha dude, atleast you cant say what I wrote is wrong. Come on man, take it easy, you didnt answered when I explained myself, but I just had to write some stupid things, and you suddently bited. I mean, are you aware no one ll' return you the time you loose? Anyway, I see you know many things about Ninjutsu, I only hope I've made you understand and have a little smile. Bye.
@Creationsofmyown Come on it was only a stupid joke! Did you understand? KawasakiNinja..the bike. It was only a try to appease this cyber warrior stuff. I mean, quoting H Ledger "Why soo serious"? Besides, I would'nt be so fast to clame someone an "ignourant", if you dont know for sure what I know on this subject, cause you know, me too have read some things..You seems to behave the very same way of your hated cyber ninja fanboys, instead of have a friendly discussion like normal peoples do.
Wow, well that is not entirely true. you have a point on "the skills of a ninja" but these are merely techniques taught in a ryuha(school) i.e. tenshin shoden Katori shinto ryu. but there are some schools where Ninjutsu is a way of unarmed and armed combat. the x-kan's are merely one. Historically in order to research Ninja schools you may want to go to Ninja sources. it's not unlike the us selling drugs in ca, only clandestine srouces can prove or disprove your assumptions.
uh, so hold on, you want to totally change the entirety of what we know and have confirmed because one dude that cant even prove he knows ninjutsu says its different than ALL of the evidence we have?
there are no schools of ninjutsu that include combat, it is taught in other ryu, but not included in ninjutsu, anyone telling you otherwise isnt being honest.
ninjutsu was never, and will never be, a martial art.
who would that dude one dude be? because the people who follow the "one dude" who's teachings I live. had several people who knew, had documented evidence of and even hired him on mission. I dont research Ninjutsu - I am Ninja. there are several scrolls and books written by Ninja that allude to combat because most combat techniques were taught by "kuden" word of mouth. for secercy, and the if your a ninja then your put to death thing.
alot of this is mute, my sokes grandmaster is Takamatsu toshitsugu, a well known ninja master in japan. the problem with guys like you is you think you can trick people into thinking your a Ninja. your not! please either learn real ninjutsu or stop faking !
takamatsu is well known in japan as a martial artist, and as the guy who decided to ignore hundreds of years of history because he wanted to use the word ninjutsu to sell the collection of skills he learned on his travels...
martial arts are also most definitely NOT passed on by kuden...
i do not in any way claim to be a ninja, ninja and the skills they practiced are extinct. your continued use of strawman fallacies is a little bit telling of your level of competency for debate.
Ah Watanibe, only re-marketed an earlier work with a similar name. as for Takamatusu- his history speaks for it self. Ninjutsu was a school and is taugh thru the bujinkan and x-kans of the world/ as far as discrediting someone with such an illustrious past? that's the great thing about being an American. no repercussion in this day and age go back 10-15years ago and blood would have to be spilled.
i see you've been lurking in the shadows for some time, good for you. unlike today Ninja didnt advertise? it was past down thru families, and the skill Ninja Hachimon were but a few one had to master to beconsider NInja. Now thats not just from Hatsumi Soke, but from people who Knew Takamatsu like the Mayor of Iga ueno, and others. this Watanbei you speak of wouldnt be the same one who recentley discovered that his granddad & father were Ninja but didnt train him as one, would it?
funny thing about you lurkers is you believe that anything to be found on Ninjutsu will be in a book or on the web? please tell me when this mental down load of all info happened? lmao!! we treat outsiders like mushrooms...feed them shit and keep them in the dark! thanks for playing.
first, you bothered to write 3 whole comments, check my page, im not american.
im not sure that you and i are talking about the same person... see i actually read a name... may want to try it...
we arent talking about advertising... we are talking about specific claimants. if you have someone you believe to be authentic enough to be viable by all means... name them. but i assure you, if the best that you have is takamatsu-den, you will be sadly disappointed.
and if you want to be believed, and are worthy of being believed. the NKS or the NKK will take notice, but as i said, if you want to bring takamatsu-den, or any other martial art to the demo, dont be surprised if they politely decline to allow your sensei's acceptance.
ninjutsu wasnt a martial art. you argue that we know nothing historical about ninja without ever reading what we DO know, and all of it says absolutely nothing of combat in ninjutsu ( used in scrolls in 16th CE i think)
gendai budo? wow your really mixed up, l do enjoy gendai budo arts like : tenshin katori shinto ryu , yagyu shinkage ryu are also Gendi systems? you really need to train in a Martial art before you call yourself a Martial artist
ok the thing that gets me, is you do all your so called research on line. LOL google it up, it's simple Takamatsu was a recognized ninja master in japan before and after his death. Besides Kings warlords and Martial art's master that he called friend, he also was the technical director for a movie called Shinobi, band of assassin's.
two of the system we have at our core are Gyokko ryu kosshijutsu & Koto ryu Koppojutsu which were the Ninja systems of Sandayu Momochi another recognized Ninja Master. which destroy's your entire argument. How's that for a name? lmao
so you provide another name further back, with even less evidence ???
the most you have on toda is his grave... you havent even found property records, taxes, city records, not a thing...
and with that said, you expect me to believe in yet another earlier predecessor.. with even less evidence, WHO HAS ALSO **NEVER** BEEN AUTHENTICATED/RECOGNIZED/PROVED as a ninjutsu practitioner...
i asked for the name of someone you could back to join the NKS, and the best u have is dead?
Sandayu ? are you kidding Sandayu is the most well Known Ninja in all of japan second only to Hattori hanzo? why would you call yourself a nInja if you dont know Ninja history? oh not only does he have relatives still living but his family still owns property. lol Shinobi no mono was made in the 50's or 60's, again your wrong! Baka gaijin
uh i have never called myself a ninja, were you too busy attacking your strawman that you didnt notice that...
and you are the one who , as previous is still in error, or do you know the movies better then imbd too? wow you must be an expert on everything, just cuz u say so right???
i havent lost an argument on youtube yet... so you CLEARLY have me confused with someone/.....
by all means if you would like to try me, please, it should be super easy... if in fact ninjutsu is a martial art, to prove it empirically....
that goes the same for takamatsu-den as well.. prove it... it cant be done,, and to believe him, you have to ignore all of the historical evidence, the testimony of Fujita Seiko, the NKS AND the NKK....
fucking hell torched a raw nerve lol. im not gunna do my research on a shit and quite frankly pointless martial art. so.... go and climb a house or something mr. ninja warrior
anyone's aloud to partake in the mma. and Ive seen ninjitsu fighters get there ass kicked. i don't deny they were used in ancient battles back in the day, and i know there skill's with weapons and skill's at stealth killing and all sorts. im just saying that the hand to hand combat prospect's fall short to other forms of martial arts. you cant be suggesting that ninjitsu is the best martial art?
hhmmm interesting. but i think that mui thai and jiu jitsu would be more appropriate. i dont think its a coincidence that there are no ninjitsu practitioners in ufc now. im not dissing the martial art im sure its effective, but not as effective as the others.
@malave31 Ninjitsu makes you do some things that really dont apply to MMA like learning how to camoflauge yourself, weapons training etc, and other martial arts like Muay Thai or boxing spend all there time on heavy bag work and focus pads these martial arts have adapted to be used today and work effectively what I guess im saying is if I lived in 12th century japan I would think Ninjitsu is very effective but in 2010, not so much
This is standard practice sparring in what appears to be Karate or Tae Kwon Do. If this were a ninjutsu fight it would have ended way quick as that style is all about economy of motion. Look up ToShinDo or Bujinkan to see what I mean.
Im gonna guess they were just messing around/sparring. I dont think the ninjitsu guy is gonna do some armlock or snap her neck... Come on guys, just calm down. Korean flag? Why does this make this video fake??? lol Maby that gym teaches other stuff like Taekwondo or they could even just like Korea lol A Korean flag on a wall does NOT mean that the guy doesent know ninjitsu lol
just to clarify... this was VERY LIGHT warm up kind of sparring, Kyokushin rules. The guy trains Ninjutsu normally and he is a friend, so we were just practicing together. This video was not meant to represent Ninjutsu, or Kyokushin for that matter.
she is good fighter not great but good she can hold her own against an average person not against a professional however
But back on point there is no ninjutsu here
This is a good work out and is sport.Good sweat I will give them that
Ninjas were like special forces miltary style killers and high level spies.Ninjas would have had to make their kill in seconds with out much effort or sound to carry out their missions
The look like a couple of points fighting kickboxers. I saw no ninjutsu there myself, but some nice moves and they are reasonably fit. So good luck to them in their training. I wouldn't worry about the black belt jibe from XH1tokirix below, they looked like they were warming up, god knows what that girl is capable of. I wouldn't judge her from this. Underestimating people is a sure road to defeat.
I agree this doesn't resemble ninjutsu at all. I believe that this is more of a mixture of Muay thai, and kempo than ninjutsu. Also i can't help but notice the korean and japanese flags in the background. The only conclusion that i can make is that this specific facility also teaches another Martial art (most likely TKD/karate) as i can see many resemblances from many of the movements from TKD. Overall i think that this is just a light spar, and she should keep it up, i see potential.
Actually, he more likely would have moved to the side, blocking her knee. Then when she extended her other leg, he would have caught it, and hyper extended her kneecap, while sweeping out her other leg from underneath.
Its too easy to criticize martial artists, remember her aims may not be self defense and that they are sparring bare knuckle so going full contact is probably not allowed. I don't like grading systems but I wouldn't knock her when compared to many other black belts
theres no ninjutsu in this video. that guys legs are practically completely unbent,
a ninjutsus fighters hips would be much much lower, and i would hope that a black belt in ninjutsu wouldnt let go of a leg like that once he caught it! sweap out the other leg retard!
this is just two karate fighters, one in white, and one in black
The guy might be a ninjutsu fighter, but he is not using ninjutsu in this clip.
There is nothing wrong with doing some karate sparring as part of cross training or just for fun, but this shouldn't be called a ninjutsu kyokushin fight, it's just kyokushin.
totally, no ninjutsu here, nothing but petty karate. if they would fight like that in real fight, i would sweep floor with their asses, that was pathetic little show.
Well , first of all, there is NO ninjutsu in this video!!! Second, what they are trying to do is Kyokushin karate all day long!!! And third : Oyama would lough his asss down if he would see this !!!
you have no idea what your talking about if you look back into history Togakure and gyokko ryu are two of the oldest, out of iga, and both and incorporated into the bujinkan system along with 7 others
for all you ppl that think that Bujinkan is the only style your all wrong Bujinkin is actually a new style that was created by Grandmaster Hatsumi Iga Ryu and Koga Ryu are The two oldest styles of Ninjutsu that are still practiced today
well it isn't new takamatsu sensei developed it considering that he was the soke of the 9 schools that make part of the bujinkan, hatsumi made it global, and besides the 3 ninja schools that are studied in Bujinkan are almost as old as iga and koga.
Right and Wrong. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (use the whole name, please) was put together by Sensei Hatsumi and it is a modern martial art that consists of 9 traditional martial art schools. So it has both traditional and modern aspects. It is more of a WAY of training than a STYLE. It's not fighting art.. i'd say it is more of a way to explore the traditional arts and train your body and study philosophy n culture.
I have to agree with you 100% realmendontlie and for everyone else its just a lite sparring match between two good friends and one who dont know any rolls break falls or anything so why would I use my skills against a friend that I know I could hurt its all TRAINING
True that ninjutsu is a combination of martial arts, but they took the most efficient parts of each art, high kicks and a low guard aint efficent! I did kenpo aswwel to futher add to my knolage, and the same agreement!
1:07... NICE!
pnsc24 1 month ago
dammit!! i wanted to see teeth flying and bones breaking with insane jump kicks and back flips and stuff!!! :/
DZman143 4 months ago
ninjutsu does not fight like this. In ninjutsu you would for example grab the leg and put pressure on the knee bringing the opponent down and at the same time falling with your knee on the chest of your opponent. No coming back from that one.
Ninjutsu has not been/cannot be made into a sport. It is the least known of the martial arts. like Aikido was when Steve Seagal made it famous.
boowonder888 8 months ago
ninjutsu trains to kill not to spar simple as that. thats why you dont use it in competition of any kind
metal3813 8 months ago
That dude is a real ninja! But no one ever taught him how to block a blow to the face. PWNED.
TomayneSONGZ 10 months ago
Esta bien la pelea pero....de Karate kyokushinkai poca cosa(donde esta ese espiritu de los kyokushin !?) y del ninjutsu...que decir, parece que no estiras mas las piernas para que no se te rompa el traje...donde esta esa flexibilidad, esa agilidad, etc...o simplemente eras un saco movil ?
Animo !! un saludo !!
srmiyagui1 1 year ago
I LOL when he was thinking he was Bruce Lee with his hands low blocking her jabs and kicks from a BIRD! who was prob 8" shorter 12" less reach and 70 lbs lighter than him.Then she kicked him in the head and nearly KO'd him. Thats the thing with pretend arts like this,they are ineffective.1st thing in Boxing kickboxing, Taekwondo,Karate etc is to protect your face. If a bird can kick him in face and almost KO him a bloke would knock his head from his shoulders. I know I certainly would.
steash123 1 year ago
Keep those wake closed! :D
H0useMouse 1 year ago
it's good to see women in martial arts
froliciouspanda 1 year ago 2
Karate chicks are hot.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago 2
even for light sparring this is not bad, would like to see you guys going full speed
ytrewqasfd 1 year ago
gay
3000GtVR434 1 year ago
Pff, karate sucks
lordtains 1 year ago
That was some cool sparring.
Oty3d 1 year ago
She has a tell; she throws her hands up in the air before giving the front kick. Our "ninja" here isn't very good if he can't see that and exploit it. All he'd have to do would be slip to the side, scoop the leg and clothesline across her chest; the tell gives him more than enough warning, and puts her balance off enough that she'd go down easily.
Nice action on her roundhouse, though.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
@JCLeSinge I don't think clotheslines are allowed in Kyokushin sparring, which is what it looks like they were doing.
Kendamu 1 year ago
@Kendamu: You can do the same technique without the clothesline; slip the kick on the outside, deflect and scoop with a low block, then either:
a) reach around their back and grab the off shoulder;
b) take a head tilt under the jaw (gently...);
c) drop the leg the instant you've caught it, and sweep as the opponent stumbles;
d) grab their near arm, swing it up and sweep the supporting leg while scooping the kick high.
...And there are more, the clothesline is just the easiest.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
@JCLeSinge Again, the Kyokushin ruleset would probably keep a lot of that from happening. It's like telling someone that it's okay to "lightly sweep/tackle/whatever" someone to the ground in Basketball or Golf. I know some branches do allow some sweeps, but I'm not sure which ones. It's mostly punches and kicks only without punching to the face.
Kendamu 1 year ago
@Kendamu: Clotheslines are off-limits in most Karate styles; you might get away with a knife-hand chop used for the same purpose, but...
Head-tilts are generally banned too; they're very effective, but only safe if you really know what you're doing.
The grab round the back to the off-shoulder isn't banned per se in any style I've seen or tried; it's just unusual and most people don't think of it.
Sweeping either leg while scooping the kick is usually allowed, so long as it's done clean.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
@JCLeSinge I'd like to make the point I keep forgetting to make that what you've been saying so far sounds like good strategies. I was more or less just trying to figure out what good strategies would be considering the rules they were sparring under.
Kendamu 1 year ago
@Kendamu: Yeah, I get that. Some of the suggestions are potentially fatal, though, the head-tilt in particular... the yank on the shoulder can be nasty if there's some environmental hazard nearby to spin the opponent into (such as oncoming traffic), but that's street-fight thinking.
This kind of tit-for-tat, punch-kick-block sparring creates unrealistic ideas about fighting. Martial Arts works, but not if all the good moves are banned for "safety"; that they're not safe is kinda the point.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
martial arts is supossed to be intense hard working obediant fighting, not at all fun
dawnowar12 1 year ago
@dawnowar12 yes its not fun. but the resin why we do all of this training is so when a fight comes, we can win with out fighting.
gearscrazy22 1 year ago
This is not Ninjutsu. If he knew what he was doing he would not move that way. You do not fight someone of another style by trying to move like them. He is sloppy and off balance. Not even a hint of ninpo or taijutsu. Nuff said!
buddhasixnine 1 year ago
@buddhasixnine In other words,he is one big fatty!
DaTaBASE3089 1 year ago
Their hand movements are remarkably similar. Same dojo I think.
goldestmean 1 year ago
Give me a break! I have trained in Karate before and also have trained in Bujinkan Ninjutsu for 14 years and can tell you this guy is nothing but another Karate-ka who is just pretending to be Ninja by putting on a black Gi. I see no Ninpo in his movement or skill what so ever. I don't even see him as being a decent Karate-ka. The girl has more skill.
reginaninja 1 year ago
@reginaninja
Lots of karate styles utilize black gi's... Like daido juku, budo, that whole branch of the style.
voltorbffs 1 year ago
I would love that girl to beat up on me lol. Wait or would i? Yes.... Imao...
Vulspire 2 years ago
thats whay i dont belive in santa el cupacabras and ninjas lol
fancodi 2 years ago
Well, I must say the Kiukushin practitioner have shown pretty much skill. She landed two good rounhouse kicks at opponents head. I dont know what style of Ninjutsu the guy is in, but for beeing a black belt it's pretty strange to get caught twice, he didnt shows pretty much technique. My regards.
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
umm creationsofmyown, your sort of coming across as a pretentious wanker. NINJUTSU LIVES!!
wackattackjack 2 years ago 5
can you cite a source for this "19 aspects" bullshit?
you are clearly defending your own training here, but i have an issue then, i will take chem's claim a step further,
THERE ARE NO NINJUTSU PRACTITIONERS ALIVE.
the last one died over 40 years ago, his name was Seiko Fujita.
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
Man let people do what they want! You've commented on every ninjutsu video saying the same thing!
cleve101 2 years ago 2
im all for people doing what they want... but im against lying... so yes.. you have the right to do what you want ( lie) and say you practice ninjutsu(which you dont) ,.... but i have the right to do what i want... and thats call out little noobtard liars like you.
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
hahah I never lied about anything, or said anything about ninjutsu being real anymore.
You're simply being ignorant and trying to MAKE people not want to try something even if it's not real. That's like me saying '' You're never going to get anywhere so don't TRY''
That's a sad way to live a life.
cleve101 2 years ago 3
ah but theres where your wrong... i never said dont train in the bujinkan.
i never said dont train in any art... just be aware that not all of the claims made by people/groups are real....
personally i LIKE the bujinkan... i think its a really good adaption of all of the aspects of what we WANT ninjutsu to be,... i also think its about the closest you can get to ninjutsu anymore ( without spending 15+ years in a kobudo school)
BUT that doesnt make it ninjutsu
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
How am I wrong? you're pretty much implying don't try ninjutsu anymore cuz today's ninjutsu isn't real from the countless Ninjutsu videos you keep commenting on. If you let people make their own mistakes, they learn, it's how people are.
cleve101 2 years ago 3
but what can people learn from a mistake that isnt corrected?
and what does it say about you that you HAVE been corrected and are continuing to make the error...
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
I quit Ninjutsu along time ago, that how I corrected it, by trying it even though it was not real ninjutsu, In-corrections always follow by corrections, you do something wrong, you do something to make it right, you have a bad habit, you learn from it and make a good habit.
cleve101 2 years ago 5
no, you quit bujinkan,, or whatever organization you belonged to, it wasnt ninjutsu ... you cannot quit something you never began... since you have never met someone who knows ninjutsu you never began training it....
i didnt understand the rest of the babbling you did here...
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
Masaaki Hatsumi is descended from ninja clans from the japans feudal past and still teaches the art. I dont know where you get the idea that the art of ninjutsu has died (which it hasnt) but with all due respect you are the noobtard here not him. Even if it had died they would not still have schools for it -.- and besides a martial art cannot die in a period of 40 years thats insane! and you called him a lying noobtard! good lord! -.-
Lucaslike92 2 years ago
hatsumi is a fraud..
takamatsu made up the ryu he taught to hatsumi as ninjutsu. he even told his friend watatani kiyoshe, author of the bugei ryuha daijiten, about it. we know this because of a personal anecdote included in the 3rd edition. as an unsourceable claim, it was also potetntially libel so it was removed from the 4th edition.
and you bring up the other reason hatsumi is so laughable, ninjutsu isnt a martial art.
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
@Creationsofmyown Man, you must hate soo much Hatsumi and the Bujinkan to keep going on each video to talk so bad of them!
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
how in the fuck do you figure?
and since when is speaking the truth " talking bad" about someone? if it is bad to say, i guess they shouldnt have put themselves in that position.
by all means feel free to attempt to correct anything i have said,
i dont hate hatsumi, i personally like the bujinkan. but the claim that hatsumi knows ninjutsu is totally bogus.
the flip side is, i love the truth, and ninja fanboys are easy troll fodder. such as yourself ;+)
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
@Creationsofmyown Wow wow easy man! What's with all this macho stuffs? I've only said what it looks like to me! Since seems to me you goes on ninjutsu vids only to take an argument with your hated "ninja fanboys". Besides, I'm not even a ninjutsu practitioner, and I've leaved Bujinkan many years ago. I was only saying what you call "love for truth" is indeed trolling around, and seems pretty useles to me, but if this makes you so mad you have to start insulting...LoL, I wont say anymore. Bye.
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
@Creationsofmyown Also, I know some REAL ninja, and I know they're real cause they have a cerificate of autenticity. They're soo fast and powerfull they've been in many competitions, even on tv! And they're so dangerous if you mess up with, if one of them hits you full speed, you would be dead for sure!!
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
uh huh... name one certificates from who?? no organization other than the koryu societies is qualified to certify them.... and they dont give certificates
you may also be interested to know that ninjutsu was historically NEVER a martial art...
you have been misled to follow a martial art masquerading as the feudal japanese skill of espionage.
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
@Creationsofmyown Get ready, here it comes...They are....KAWASAKI NINJAS!
Haha dude, atleast you cant say what I wrote is wrong. Come on man, take it easy, you didnt answered when I explained myself, but I just had to write some stupid things, and you suddently bited. I mean, are you aware no one ll' return you the time you loose? Anyway, I see you know many things about Ninjutsu, I only hope I've made you understand and have a little smile. Bye.
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
no. how could i understand anything from your comments but that you are ignorant?
i know i know much of ninjutsu.
but considering how casual my research has been i am a rank amateur.... i wish i could get my hands on some of fujita's books...
Creationsofmyown 2 years ago
@Creationsofmyown Come on it was only a stupid joke! Did you understand? KawasakiNinja..the bike. It was only a try to appease this cyber warrior stuff. I mean, quoting H Ledger "Why soo serious"? Besides, I would'nt be so fast to clame someone an "ignourant", if you dont know for sure what I know on this subject, cause you know, me too have read some things..You seems to behave the very same way of your hated cyber ninja fanboys, instead of have a friendly discussion like normal peoples do.
Raposamandinga 2 years ago
Wow, well that is not entirely true. you have a point on "the skills of a ninja" but these are merely techniques taught in a ryuha(school) i.e. tenshin shoden Katori shinto ryu. but there are some schools where Ninjutsu is a way of unarmed and armed combat. the x-kan's are merely one. Historically in order to research Ninja schools you may want to go to Ninja sources. it's not unlike the us selling drugs in ca, only clandestine srouces can prove or disprove your assumptions.
7NEMISIS 2 years ago
uh, so hold on, you want to totally change the entirety of what we know and have confirmed because one dude that cant even prove he knows ninjutsu says its different than ALL of the evidence we have?
there are no schools of ninjutsu that include combat, it is taught in other ryu, but not included in ninjutsu, anyone telling you otherwise isnt being honest.
ninjutsu was never, and will never be, a martial art.
and i dont assume, i research.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
who would that dude one dude be? because the people who follow the "one dude" who's teachings I live. had several people who knew, had documented evidence of and even hired him on mission. I dont research Ninjutsu - I am Ninja. there are several scrolls and books written by Ninja that allude to combat because most combat techniques were taught by "kuden" word of mouth. for secercy, and the if your a ninja then your put to death thing.
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
alot of this is mute, my sokes grandmaster is Takamatsu toshitsugu, a well known ninja master in japan. the problem with guys like you is you think you can trick people into thinking your a Ninja. your not! please either learn real ninjutsu or stop faking !
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
takamatsu is well known in japan as a martial artist, and as the guy who decided to ignore hundreds of years of history because he wanted to use the word ninjutsu to sell the collection of skills he learned on his travels...
martial arts are also most definitely NOT passed on by kuden...
i do not in any way claim to be a ninja, ninja and the skills they practiced are extinct. your continued use of strawman fallacies is a little bit telling of your level of competency for debate.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
Ah Watanibe, only re-marketed an earlier work with a similar name. as for Takamatusu- his history speaks for it self. Ninjutsu was a school and is taugh thru the bujinkan and x-kans of the world/ as far as discrediting someone with such an illustrious past? that's the great thing about being an American. no repercussion in this day and age go back 10-15years ago and blood would have to be spilled.
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
i see you've been lurking in the shadows for some time, good for you. unlike today Ninja didnt advertise? it was past down thru families, and the skill Ninja Hachimon were but a few one had to master to beconsider NInja. Now thats not just from Hatsumi Soke, but from people who Knew Takamatsu like the Mayor of Iga ueno, and others. this Watanbei you speak of wouldnt be the same one who recentley discovered that his granddad & father were Ninja but didnt train him as one, would it?
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
funny thing about you lurkers is you believe that anything to be found on Ninjutsu will be in a book or on the web? please tell me when this mental down load of all info happened? lmao!! we treat outsiders like mushrooms...feed them shit and keep them in the dark! thanks for playing.
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
first, you bothered to write 3 whole comments, check my page, im not american.
im not sure that you and i are talking about the same person... see i actually read a name... may want to try it...
we arent talking about advertising... we are talking about specific claimants. if you have someone you believe to be authentic enough to be viable by all means... name them. but i assure you, if the best that you have is takamatsu-den, you will be sadly disappointed.
you cant argue the scrolls.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
and if you want to be believed, and are worthy of being believed. the NKS or the NKK will take notice, but as i said, if you want to bring takamatsu-den, or any other martial art to the demo, dont be surprised if they politely decline to allow your sensei's acceptance.
ninjutsu wasnt a martial art. you argue that we know nothing historical about ninja without ever reading what we DO know, and all of it says absolutely nothing of combat in ninjutsu ( used in scrolls in 16th CE i think)
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
all of those qualifications... but none of which use menkyo method of grading used for koryu...
enjoy your gendai budo. i am happy you find it to your liking...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
gendai budo? wow your really mixed up, l do enjoy gendai budo arts like : tenshin katori shinto ryu , yagyu shinkage ryu are also Gendi systems? you really need to train in a Martial art before you call yourself a Martial artist
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
ok the thing that gets me, is you do all your so called research on line. LOL google it up, it's simple Takamatsu was a recognized ninja master in japan before and after his death. Besides Kings warlords and Martial art's master that he called friend, he also was the technical director for a movie called Shinobi, band of assassin's.
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
recognized by who? the only organization that does it is the koryu societies..... and they dont recognize takamatsu or hatsumi.
so then because peter jackson directed a movie called lord of the rings hes a wizard/hobbit/goblin/king?
making a movie on the subject doesnt mean you know even the basics of the subject..
in fact knowing the subject usually makes for bad movies..
your also refering to a movie made in the middle of the ninja craze... great source.. ROFL
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
two of the system we have at our core are Gyokko ryu kosshijutsu & Koto ryu Koppojutsu which were the Ninja systems of Sandayu Momochi another recognized Ninja Master. which destroy's your entire argument. How's that for a name? lmao
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
so you provide another name further back, with even less evidence ???
the most you have on toda is his grave... you havent even found property records, taxes, city records, not a thing...
and with that said, you expect me to believe in yet another earlier predecessor.. with even less evidence, WHO HAS ALSO **NEVER** BEEN AUTHENTICATED/RECOGNIZED/PROVED as a ninjutsu practitioner...
i asked for the name of someone you could back to join the NKS, and the best u have is dead?
I WIN.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
ah also worth noting...
koto ryu is NOT ninjutsu... nor does it claim to be...
so much for proving a ninja lineage...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
Sandayu ? are you kidding Sandayu is the most well Known Ninja in all of japan second only to Hattori hanzo? why would you call yourself a nInja if you dont know Ninja history? oh not only does he have relatives still living but his family still owns property. lol Shinobi no mono was made in the 50's or 60's, again your wrong! Baka gaijin
7NEMISIS 1 year ago
uh i have never called myself a ninja, were you too busy attacking your strawman that you didnt notice that...
and you are the one who , as previous is still in error, or do you know the movies better then imbd too? wow you must be an expert on everything, just cuz u say so right???
get fucking real, stop talking out of your ass...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown is you name eliya?
ninjutsuHH 1 year ago
@ninjutsuHH
nope. odd question too... is there someone you have me confused with??
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown just a friend who loses arguments all the time and starts them later or somewhere else again....just a thought
ninjutsuHH 1 year ago
i havent lost an argument on youtube yet... so you CLEARLY have me confused with someone/.....
by all means if you would like to try me, please, it should be super easy... if in fact ninjutsu is a martial art, to prove it empirically....
that goes the same for takamatsu-den as well.. prove it... it cant be done,, and to believe him, you have to ignore all of the historical evidence, the testimony of Fujita Seiko, the NKS AND the NKK....
kuden transmission ="cuz takamatsu says ___"
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
technique with out power is useless
theredone09 2 years ago
hmmm real martial artists lol
chemicalxi6 2 years ago
fucking hell torched a raw nerve lol. im not gunna do my research on a shit and quite frankly pointless martial art. so.... go and climb a house or something mr. ninja warrior
chemicalxi6 2 years ago
anyone's aloud to partake in the mma. and Ive seen ninjitsu fighters get there ass kicked. i don't deny they were used in ancient battles back in the day, and i know there skill's with weapons and skill's at stealth killing and all sorts. im just saying that the hand to hand combat prospect's fall short to other forms of martial arts. you cant be suggesting that ninjitsu is the best martial art?
chemicalxi6 2 years ago
hhmmm interesting. but i think that mui thai and jiu jitsu would be more appropriate. i dont think its a coincidence that there are no ninjitsu practitioners in ufc now. im not dissing the martial art im sure its effective, but not as effective as the others.
chemicalxi6 2 years ago
@malave31 Ninjitsu makes you do some things that really dont apply to MMA like learning how to camoflauge yourself, weapons training etc, and other martial arts like Muay Thai or boxing spend all there time on heavy bag work and focus pads these martial arts have adapted to be used today and work effectively what I guess im saying is if I lived in 12th century japan I would think Ninjitsu is very effective but in 2010, not so much
hazard2000 2 years ago
i wonder how long a ninjutsu fighter would last in mma??? not very long probz....never know though
chemicalxi6 2 years ago
The girl has good front kick.
T73Palin 2 years ago
This is standard practice sparring in what appears to be Karate or Tae Kwon Do. If this were a ninjutsu fight it would have ended way quick as that style is all about economy of motion. Look up ToShinDo or Bujinkan to see what I mean.
deomartinez77 2 years ago
what? tis is a simple karate kumite
birbirudolfa 2 years ago
EPIC BATTLE!
exelenttee 2 years ago
that girl looks aweasome
OSU!!
hotpopcorncake 2 years ago
Im gonna guess they were just messing around/sparring. I dont think the ninjitsu guy is gonna do some armlock or snap her neck... Come on guys, just calm down. Korean flag? Why does this make this video fake??? lol Maby that gym teaches other stuff like Taekwondo or they could even just like Korea lol A Korean flag on a wall does NOT mean that the guy doesent know ninjitsu lol
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
@GuamKomudo
besides, korean ninjitsu is way different... i find it to be more agressive, but less careful
EnriquePage91 2 years ago
just to clarify... this was VERY LIGHT warm up kind of sparring, Kyokushin rules. The guy trains Ninjutsu normally and he is a friend, so we were just practicing together. This video was not meant to represent Ninjutsu, or Kyokushin for that matter.
olgaoulanova 2 years ago 4
@olgaoulanova why there is a korean flag there=?
HermesDo 1 year ago
this is ok but every time she kicks she raises her hands really high and opens herself for kicks in the ribs. those can be the end of a fight.
myboyt 2 years ago
he is not doing ninjutsu he can barely defend or keep on balance and theres a korean flag why? because its fake
abcb1521 2 years ago
Not to mention there's a Korean flag in the background...
watts18269 2 years ago
not ninjutsu but dont doubt its power a well trained ninjutsu master can be extremley lethal no matter who they face
LucienFate 2 years ago
more like Ninsh1tsu.
bruinestinkaap 2 years ago
karate not ninjutsu
BujinkanMartialArts 2 years ago 2
yup, the guy in black is doing karate, just that he's in a black gi
thehypez 2 years ago
Not bujinkan
agradavel100 2 years ago
definately not Bujinkan, or any of the ninpo.
alliman101 2 years ago 2
НОЖКАМИ МАШЕМ... ЕСЛИ НА ЧТО И СМОТРЕТЬ,ТО НА КРАСИВУЮ ДЕВУШКУ!
AREY1000 2 years ago
she is good fighter not great but good she can hold her own against an average person not against a professional however
But back on point there is no ninjutsu here
This is a good work out and is sport.Good sweat I will give them that
Ninjas were like special forces miltary style killers and high level spies.Ninjas would have had to make their kill in seconds with out much effort or sound to carry out their missions
NewZealfighter 2 years ago
she could prolly knock you out sinopo...
brandon9491 2 years ago
people get black belts like candy nowadays
this chick is black belt? what did she do to earn it? jk =)
sinopo 2 years ago
The look like a couple of points fighting kickboxers. I saw no ninjutsu there myself, but some nice moves and they are reasonably fit. So good luck to them in their training. I wouldn't worry about the black belt jibe from XH1tokirix below, they looked like they were warming up, god knows what that girl is capable of. I wouldn't judge her from this. Underestimating people is a sure road to defeat.
Hakiblack 2 years ago
this is not ninjutsu.
just because someone is in black doesn't mean they do ninjutsu.
seadawg93 2 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
r u joking?
superdoolman 2 years ago
Is she REALLY a black belt???
-_-'
XH1tokiriX 2 years ago
LMAO she kiked him in the face XD
chantbott 2 years ago
thhis is definetly not ninjitsu lol
EnglandNinja 2 years ago 3
This isn't even a fight....
anibaldk 2 years ago
slapboxing more like it lol
Opie2 2 years ago
I agree, a fist is a fist, the mind plays the most important part in a fight, more than the style
jeromecanovas 2 years ago
this is not ninjutsu
in real bujinkan there are no high kicks and kicks are not blocked with the shin like in muay thai
it is nice tae kwon do, muay thai, kung fu or whatever but not ninjutsu
FlightOfAChimaira 2 years ago 2
I agree this doesn't resemble ninjutsu at all. I believe that this is more of a mixture of Muay thai, and kempo than ninjutsu. Also i can't help but notice the korean and japanese flags in the background. The only conclusion that i can make is that this specific facility also teaches another Martial art (most likely TKD/karate) as i can see many resemblances from many of the movements from TKD. Overall i think that this is just a light spar, and she should keep it up, i see potential.
crimsonskies12 2 years ago
all she had to do was a groin shot if it was a real fight and the ninja would be down
fireking9934 2 years ago 2
Absolute ARSE, an insult to all those who do any form of ninjutsu
Nionf 2 years ago 3
thats was ass that wasnt ninjutsu at all and the girl sucks ass with her slow ass kicks
TokyoAizen 2 years ago
what a tool.. why would u spar with a girl? and theres no ninjutsu in there at all, thats just ridiculous.
ichibanniko 2 years ago
thats Tae kwon do vs a Ninjutsuka right?
beatboxpeej 2 years ago
karate vs ninjutsu
eon2569 2 years ago
nice :))
yosocrull 2 years ago
Ninjutsu is not for demo...
metalage02 2 years ago
sexy girl and a good karateka, but the guy is a total shame...not Ninpo.
Ariyakuza 2 years ago
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Vasinsha 2 years ago
the only thing ninjutsu about that guys performance was his gi.
OGsid 2 years ago
If this was ninjutsu, the guy in black would have thrown shuriken and then choked the girl out with his kusari!
At least that's what I would do!
mdiem 2 years ago
Actually, he more likely would have moved to the side, blocking her knee. Then when she extended her other leg, he would have caught it, and hyper extended her kneecap, while sweeping out her other leg from underneath.
FutureMoth 2 years ago 2
This isn't Ninjutsu..... :(
BoletusMortalis 2 years ago
em... you call that ninjutsu? Shame on you....
SloveniaForEver 2 years ago
there isnt any ninjutsu in here please quit bashing us. the girl is kinda of cute. I WOULD SPARR with her and let her win, wink wink.
maceioninjutsu 2 years ago 2
dude she looks 14...
sakone0054 2 years ago
I still will let her win. WINK WINK
maceioninjutsu 2 years ago 2
Forget the post I made on the other video, I see them now.
ivoryshark 2 years ago
shamefull,
singhakabuttar 3 years ago
Its too easy to criticize martial artists, remember her aims may not be self defense and that they are sparring bare knuckle so going full contact is probably not allowed. I don't like grading systems but I wouldn't knock her when compared to many other black belts
WELSHMIKEY 2 years ago
is she a black belt? roflmao, im not black and im still better than she is
freakingKiller 3 years ago
i think its a green belt
SoldierCyfix 3 years ago
Good mawashi at 1:07!
bassuan 3 years ago
Nao tem nada de ninjutsu ali !
madlokoo 3 years ago
1. Hold the camera still ffs
2. Take Ninjutsu out of the title
jemeryis 3 years ago 3
this stuff gives martial arts a bad name
TeamEagle01 3 years ago
Demasiada patada eso no parece ninjutsu *_*
DrInverosimil 3 years ago
I know MMA 15 year old that would school them!!
HAHAHAHAHA
kburns7569 3 years ago
ich kann immer noch kein spagat
1560129 3 years ago
not ninjutsu. him being so easy on her is not going to make her reach her full potential but nice sparring anyway.
haniffali 3 years ago
WTH no ninjitsu there
5T0RML0RD 3 years ago
thats Tang-Soo-Do not ninjitsu
JMietser 3 years ago 4
also they r just randomly sparring
xTylerDurden90x 3 years ago
theres no ninjutsu in this video. that guys legs are practically completely unbent,
a ninjutsus fighters hips would be much much lower, and i would hope that a black belt in ninjutsu wouldnt let go of a leg like that once he caught it! sweap out the other leg retard!
this is just two karate fighters, one in white, and one in black
nothing more.
ninjiujitsu1 3 years ago 4
That guy in the black pajamas is hilarious! He's dressed in black, so he's a ninja??? Where on earth is the ninjutsu in this clip? Ninjers... LOL!!!
slapupchrist 3 years ago
Totally weak. They wouldn't last 10 seconds against an MMA fighter.
ReggieDunlop1960 3 years ago
The guy might be a ninjutsu fighter, but he is not using ninjutsu in this clip.
There is nothing wrong with doing some karate sparring as part of cross training or just for fun, but this shouldn't be called a ninjutsu kyokushin fight, it's just kyokushin.
seadawg93 3 years ago
STRAIGHT MUD FOOT
bujinkan0 3 years ago
totally, no ninjutsu here, nothing but petty karate. if they would fight like that in real fight, i would sweep floor with their asses, that was pathetic little show.
turjake69 3 years ago 3
Well , first of all, there is NO ninjutsu in this video!!! Second, what they are trying to do is Kyokushin karate all day long!!! And third : Oyama would lough his asss down if he would see this !!!
Nosferatum1066 3 years ago 3
Its Hapkido. A korean Martial art. But it can be Ninjutsu to :D
Falgradxxx 3 years ago
isnt that tae quan do?
i see the korean flag in the back so....
animefreak2145 3 years ago
Where do you practice Bujinkan???
Ninjasmack 3 years ago
Where is the ninjutsu in this video...
zourite888 3 years ago
the girl fight too much better than the man. BNT is not a martial art for combat like KK... its concepts of training are completly differents
sombras1981 3 years ago
you have no idea what your talking about if you look back into history Togakure and gyokko ryu are two of the oldest, out of iga, and both and incorporated into the bujinkan system along with 7 others
Shinobuseri 3 years ago
for all you ppl that think that Bujinkan is the only style your all wrong Bujinkin is actually a new style that was created by Grandmaster Hatsumi Iga Ryu and Koga Ryu are The two oldest styles of Ninjutsu that are still practiced today
ninjarod25 3 years ago
well it isn't new takamatsu sensei developed it considering that he was the soke of the 9 schools that make part of the bujinkan, hatsumi made it global, and besides the 3 ninja schools that are studied in Bujinkan are almost as old as iga and koga.
chocolococo 3 years ago
Right and Wrong. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (use the whole name, please) was put together by Sensei Hatsumi and it is a modern martial art that consists of 9 traditional martial art schools. So it has both traditional and modern aspects. It is more of a WAY of training than a STYLE. It's not fighting art.. i'd say it is more of a way to explore the traditional arts and train your body and study philosophy n culture.
realmendontlie 3 years ago
I have to agree with you 100% realmendontlie and for everyone else its just a lite sparring match between two good friends and one who dont know any rolls break falls or anything so why would I use my skills against a friend that I know I could hurt its all TRAINING
ninjarod25 3 years ago
..hope you both will never have to fight in the streets...
sascpepino 3 years ago
im sorry what kind of ninjutsu is that? did you buy that black belt on the internet?
mattsmithphoto 3 years ago
ppl these 2 are friends, and he does do TKD as well as iga ryu Ninjutsu not Bujinkan ninijitsu
ninjarod25 3 years ago
True that ninjutsu is a combination of martial arts, but they took the most efficient parts of each art, high kicks and a low guard aint efficent! I did kenpo aswwel to futher add to my knolage, and the same agreement!
Nionf 3 years ago