Pamuk is a magician. I've read 3 novels by him and I not only admire him for his artistry but also for his courage in voicing some of the most troubling issues of our times. People who denounce him as "traitor" do not know the ABCD of literature. How can someone doubt his deep love for Turkey after reading, say, "Snow"? Every page of the novel bears witness to his genuine love for his country. It's another thing that for people like Pamuk, as for all sensible people, LOVE is often more nuanced.
I never knew he is a jew (yahudi) from Turkey,one day I have seen an ad in San Francisco Chronicle under-famous jewish writers going to sign their books etc.-This guy is from a very rich family,he never worked in his life.He had so much time to come up or make up phony-fake ass stories.I believe he is using jews for his personal gains.Mr.pamuk thinks that he is talking for all Turkish citizens.In Turkey he has zero credibility-respectability.Pamuk is a loser,he is a dishonest crooked person !
It's ridiculous how modern-day Turkey deals with the Armenian genocide claiming it's a western conspiracy, everybody is against Turkey, the Armenian archives are still closed (which is complete rubbish), and blahblah. And simply because he addresses this issue, he's called a "traitor." Ludicrous idiots.
@turkishwulf1988 Please don't write something so childish and arbitrary!! Explain why and which part of Mr. Pamuk is so objectionable that you have to say this against him?! He's a great writer and has been recognized as so by both Turks and non-Turks alike! Pick a book of his and read. Don't be brainwashed by nationalists or be fed with whatever they try to shove to you.
Thank you Mr Pamuk. Your books and talks are really inspiring.
Tomo la pulsera crono regalo de mi hermana y la convierto en un objeto de poder. Y me comprometo a terminar mi primera novela postmoderna el 31 12 2010
ım pround to be turkish and fuck orhan pamuk and we never killed 1 millon armenians we are always been ready to open old history books and proof we didnt killed 1 millon armenians. armenian goverment run aways when we offer them that
france ,hundred years they been fuck middle affican peoples , america been use atom bomb on japan and killed millon peoples , what abaut vietnam war ,? or kuba they are since 40 years under pressure and embargo from america where is human rights ?
If Turkey has poor human rights, then why shouldn't he state that? Infact, hiding it would make it a big injustice because if you are not addressing this problem, you are accepting a cycle of human suffering. By exposing the government, he is exposing a small, elite group of facists which in no way represents 70 million people that reside in Turkey, or billions that live in the East. Why can some people not seperate rulers to people? Stop being so nationalistic!
Orhan Pamuk was tried under the Turkish article 301 "Insulting Turkishness" because he admitted that Turkey commited genocide against Armenians and that it is still oppressing its 20million Kurdish population. This man speaks nothing but the truth in the most deep, poetic, painful yet humorous way. He is truely a intelligent, classy and cultured individual. I am proud to have been born in the same city as him. All my love and respect!
the set up in Orhan Pamuk's White Castle 'closely resembles' "Pedro'nun Zorunlu Istanbul Seyahati" - a book which was is thought to be written by Critobal and Villanon in the 16th century, and translated to Turkish in 1996. Pamuk did not give any references to that book, which makes him a plagiarist. It is unbelievable that the Nobel Prize Committee missed it.
he cant even use turkish. in translated books to english the language is better guess success of translator. basicly he won price just becouse of his councious political stands which aimed to win this price. you know westerns alwayssymphaty the eastern guy who stand against his own culture as a wanna be western. prolly to justfy theire thoguhts
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this is the thing you are woried about TURKS calms he is a TURK bud he is a Kurd because, he deffends the rights of the Kurds. This is the problem with al talented Kurds in syria iran and iraq
His work is quite inspiring, and is a novel author. I do not believe his personal veiws about Turkish, Kurds, Armenians have valid points as well. What I do have a problem with is; that mostly for political reasons on his views rather than his actual work that he is so well promoted. There is an anti-Turkish sentiment around most of the western world and that is soley not a good reason to fuel his success.
ne kadar irkçi insanlarsiniz, hepinizin IQsu dusuk bir avuç embesilsiniz, Orhan Pamuk gibi bir adamin donunun lastigi olamazsiniz siz. ödülü sonuna dek haketti; o turkiye'de gelmis geçmis en buyuk yazarlardan biridir. bir tane dahi kitabini okumus olsaydiniz anlardiniz, ama nerde sizde o kültür?
very funy if you could understand turkisch, what will happen one day(i hope so)...
About his prize, i think he deserved it, he's not the best, but he did good job. I think also he did'n get the novel, just because he's talented. There are some politic ifluences, that gave him the prize.. It's a example from holding turkey back from eu. Like a bronze prize...... JUST my opinion. And americans, british people, respect him, so we respect your autors
Excuse me, the EU is working with Greeks, Armenians and Kurds to divide and destroy Turkey. They are just hiring puppets like AKP, CHP to weaken Turkey. No matter how "democratic" Turkey is, they will still work to destroy Turkey. Why do you think they listened to Armenian bribes to jail people who disagree with the "So-Called Genocide" and the EU even took PKK of the terrorist group list and is arming the PKK.
the EU is holding turkey back, you talked about destroying turkey with AKP , CHP. The EU is scared from Turkey, that is why they are trying to desincrease the power. But that isn't possible in this time anymore. EU can do whatever they like, but the growing turkey economic can stand against unknown state enemies. Don't worry mate, this country is maybe not the best, but can safe his self without any help..
I know, I am going to agree with you with this part. Seriously the EU is just trying to bribe, use, exploit, manipulate and so on to Turkey, but we need a leader that will give the EU a middle finger and lets just get back on our feet again. I mean we are becoming the 15th largest economy, and it is growing even more, I am happy with this progress nonetheless.
Dude... nothing is black and white like you say it is.Things are more sophisticated than just being able to put you middle finger up.There is a dominant diplomatic process which not only Turkey but all nations must obey. Furthermore to increase wealth global cooperation is necessary, a must. If we go back to the hostile era, (pre AKP) then forget it decades worth of work will be undone.Will find ourselves in the stone age before even we have a chance to turn our heads.
Orhan Pamuk is a paid agent of Zionist Freemasons to destroy and bring corruption to Turkish soil. Including his leftist-communist-marxist butt buddy Taner Akcam. Long live Turkish patriotism!
and where is your evidence? one thing i can assure you is that there is a very low possibility for a marxist to be a freemason, since you need to be believer in God to be a freemason which most radical marxists are not. You are only deceiving yourself, myfriend. Long live globalisation, global culture rather than the narrow minded Turkish patriotism.
I said Orhan Pamuk was a Zionist. It is completely seperate to how Taner Akcam is a marxist and a communist. But they are both allies nonetheless. After all, the Jews invented Communism, let's not forget that. Karl Marx is a Jew, and this is a fact.
Of course he is, Orhan Pamuk is on the payroll of Zionist Jewish Bankers to work on the division, collapse and exploitation of Turkish soil. He is also an agent of the EU, Greece and Armenia as well and he is a self hater of his race : FACT.
tabii canim. soykirim var dedigi icin zaten o türk degil, degil mi? o yahudi hatta siyonist. ermeni. yunanlar ve avrupalilar icin canini verir. kafayi yedin herhalde. herkes istedigini söyleyebilmeli bu ülkede. orhan pamuk senin benim gibi bir türk. fazla lafa gerek yok. kabul edemiyorsan o senin kendi sorunun. ben yardim edemem sana kusura bakma. irkicilik fenalasmaya baslamis türkiyede. bunu farkettim. irkiciligin ne denli kötü bir sey oldugunu anlamis degilsiniz sanirim.
Farkinda misin bilmem, ama Ermeniler okulda ogreniyor dogustan ogretiyorlar Turkler dusman ve barbar diye. Turkiye baska ulkelere gore Cennet. Russia. Isreal, italia gibi ulkelerde irkcilik acaip asiri.
Ermenilerin yuzde 80 Turk dusmani ve Turkleri kotulemek icin her seyi yaparlar. Simdi Ermeniler Turk Yazarlarda katliyam oldu diyorlar degin kendilerini haklicikart maya calisiyorlar.
ona bakarsan bizde de irkiclik var. Bunu inkar edemezsin. birsey söyleyecegim. soykirimdan bahsetmiyorum. o daha kantilanmadi. ama türkiye gecmisinde cok yanlisar yaptik. osmanli devleti de cogu seyi yanlis yapti. bizim millet neden yaptigi yanlislari kabul edemiyor? Neden böyleyiz biz? orhan pamuk öyle düsünüyorsa türkiyeyi kötüledigi anlamina mi geliyor? hayir. adam sadece düsündügünü söylüyor. hicbirimiz türkiyenin yaptigi yanlislarini söyleyemiyor. neden?
What Orhan Pamuk said or forced to say, and why he is awarded with Nobel prize are all little steps to weaken Turkey and aim to divide Turkey into pieces as the heads of New World Order desired 90 years ago...
Your just saying that because he said the Armenian Genocide happened, guess what this guy is one of the few proud turkish out in the world, he is the only one of the few that really knows what his grand parents did to the Armenians.
my fav part of MOUSSE in the box set is the prat about the UNICEF powdered milk and in my name is DER speigel about hrant dink and the weapons stashes of the PKK
he said painting is a trouble in islam lol :)) That's not fuckin true. Well his speech clearly shows that he's been lickin some asses to get the nobel prize. This prick shouldn't be considered as a Turkish citizen and he could shove that nobel prize right in his ass.
Orhan you DOG we all know others wrote your books for you, your a another puppet of the anti TURK propaganda machine. Sen Turk olmanin ne oldugunu ogrenemi$sin daha, neden? cunku ibensinde ondan!!! biz seni Turk olarak kesinlikle kabul etmeyiz alcak hain kopek...Sen once ibne oldugunu acikla dunyaya
smd 08turk, "we all know" you mean just u and ur family? He is the best turkish author, and just because he said that 30,000 Kurds were killed and one million Armenians, and nobody dares talk about it shows how much of a man he is, it shows how smart he is, and shows that this guy is truely proud to be a turk. if he weren't then he wouldn't want to know the true history of turkey, such as people like you.
I don't get it, why would he lie if his whole career was on the line? You know how hated he is now? Your so stupid, history repeats itself and that is what took place with the Holocaust, what u did an hour ago thats history, u take a family picture thats history, its your families historry, how can you say we don't know history? You can't just say it didn't happen and expect to be right, thats the problem with you turks, and I'm geting sick of it.
I am judging your stupidity from what you have said, saying "noone knows it, not evn turks do NOT know their own history."You never said the genocide happened, show much which of the sentences you're referring to.
arthurkirakoysan7, im sure you can relate to a molested traitor puppet like pamuk, it is a typical characteristic of the anti-turk movement, you are cheap talking trash...
You seem to be really angry with Pamuk but when u say turkish people do not know their own history I think writing fictions out of those forgotten histories can be a good starting point. Fiction doesn't make truth claims and can be countered with other narratives. But it is important to have a narrative in the first place even if u want to counter it. I think u atleast need to thank Pamuk for that. By the bye in spite of your opposition u seem to know more about the author than most.
What I said was, even a wrong history is better than no history. If Pamuk through his writings is presenting a version of history which u don't think to be true you can at least counter it your own version of facts which you think or know to be true. Pamuk has been the first author in years who have put Turkey in the World literary map. I'm not a Turkish and wouldn't have been discussing Turkish literature or history were it not for Pamuk .
There were many other people with better command of language and bigger audience and deeper works. But of course, Nobel literature and peace prizes go to certain people of certain missions. maybe I should say who are chosen and who accept their task at some point in their career.
ne yazık ki siz uluslararası arenada himaye görmek istiyorsanız Türklüğe, Türk tarihine hakaret edeceksiniz. Türk milletinin değerlerine hakaret edeceksiniz, o zaman her yerde himaye görürsünüz. İşte Orhan Pamuk gibi çocuksanız sizi Nobel ödülüne de aday gösterirler. Eğer piçlerle filan iç içeyseniz ruhunuzda piçlik varsa o zaman sizi Avrupa'da kucaklarlar
I lived in Turkey for quite a while, and If you don't understand anything about Orhan Pamuk's work you really know nothing about your own country (if you are Turkish) Kemal has just been one phase in the development of a country I love very much. But not everything it has, or has had to offer to the world. And Erol a traitor to what? you don't even know
Kemalism is definition of Turkey...Kemalism is meanig of Turkey....Fuck you SOn of Bitch Fuck Tayyip and Orhan PAmuk...Fuck you and Go away from Turkey...Orosbu çocuğu
Aside from everything, the real reason why the Turkish intellectuals dislike Pamuk is simply because he's a plagiarist. His plagiarisms in "White Castle" (see Fuad Carim's translation of Critobal and Villanon's novel) is well documented. Part of his nobel speech is from a novel by Amin Malouf. Even Pamuk's mother admitted that "the bag" he referred to in the speech was just a small purse. It is really unfortunate for a writer to make fame with his political comments rather than his actual work.
Russian invaded Turks as well as Britain,France,italian and specially Greeks(with a huge hate since Troy)Armed Armenian sided with russian troops to fight against Turks,As truth is first casulty in wars,both side did horrible things to each other.
My personal feeling is when we lived together for over 1100 years we become more than just neighbours.I still hope we can stop carrying the baggage of hate and find the goodness in each other.
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Shut the fuck up m8. U can't be a Turk right. How could you say that our government killed over 1 million armenians. Read some history u ignorant cunt. Millions of people including babes killed in iraq for no fuckin reason by highly armed USA soilders. Why don't u say anything about that huh. SHAME ON YOU!!!
fuck the ottomans they can suck my left nut, they were islamic extremists. shit, armenians arent exactly cute little rabbits either, they killed hundreds of thousands as well, except turkey never screamed genocide...
And what does Iraq have to do with this subject, i didnt go to a military school to babysit american forces :P, they can suck my dick as well, im more of a european than american or turkish
And now you wait respect for your thoughts with this language? Read all other comments and tell me if you could find any other rude messages as much as yours. Is this make sense for you?
lol, there's plenty of people here talkin with alot worse language than me, and the thing is when i try to reason with anyone on this god forsaken website they seem to message a death threat so people who are answerin me tellin me im using bad language need to grow some balls because people dont accept "nice" on youtube...
what separate us as human from animals is our consciousness, & compassion. regret our cruel behavior, admit to our mistakes and feeling of guilt. for the turkish government and the ultranationalist/fascists I would say it's not a sin to admit to the genocides you committed against the armenians,greeks,assyrians,& kurds but it's sin to deny it and to continue the same policy towards you neighbors and the kurds in particular, democracy & peace are the only option to be part of civilized nations
Lol since when did we commit a genocide against the Kurds? Just because we struggle with the PKK at the moment doesn't mean we commit a genocide on them, you just want that to be accepted but its bullshit.
"Hovhannes Katchaznouni", the first prime minister of Armenia, wrote a report called "Dashnagtzoution Has Nothing to Do Anymore" in 1923, denying that what had happened in 1915 was genocide.
Several copies of the book in European and American libraries were destroyed by some "honest" members of the Armenian Diaspora. However, a few copies were found in Russia and the book has recently been re-published in English, German and French.
Let me make this clear!! We don't commit genocide against fuckn kurds. They're terrorizing our country where they don't belong and we're killing them just like they deserve it. If u r looking for genocide you should boycott USA because they killed millions of innocent and unarmed people for no fckn reason.
He is very exiting this speech.I believe after Nobel prize he had very strong pressure his head because of Turkish fascist group who blamed him about Armenians issue later he left Turkey because of his life threatining.
@ ElkhanBakinez: please shut up, you don't have a clue, that's why you're sayin' such a crap here... Orhan Pamuk is one of the best novelists in the world..just because of people like you with a fashistic point of view turkey is still staying behind so many things...Orhan Pamuk told the world the truth about Turkey's real situation...there has been a genocide on the Armenian folk and hell yeah it is damn true that the Kurds are oppressed by the Turks since the year one! Long live Orhan Pamuk!!!
I am 100% aggree with jazzmanEE. He is a brilliant writer. Turkish people have to be proud of him, his works and his awards, but unfortunately they are too much involve with anti-democratic feelings, and they deny his greatness. No problem, Orhan Pamuk is belong to the World and to the open minded people who appreciate his work with a deep love of art. Congratulations Dear Orhan Pamuk.
I am 100% aggree with jazzmanEE. PAMUK is a brilliant writer. Turkish people have to be proud of him, his works and his awards, but unfortunately they are too much involve with anti-democratic feelings, and they deny his greatness. No problem, Orhan Pamuk is belong to the World and to the open minded people who appreciate his work with a deep love of art. Congratulations Dear Orhan Pamuk.
I´m very sorry for turkish people who mix politic and great art. I love pamuks work. He deserve this Prize for his books. You just envy him and you hate him because of what he says about Armenians and Kurds...this is politics and not art- you dont want to see truth, you fascist.
are you a türk? I know few turkish guys and they told me that they hate Pamuk, and again the reason was politics and not that he writes bad literature. but I hope (really) that there are turkish people who have guts to face the truth about their own history (every nation have his own black spots on its brave face, even mine and everybody elses) and arent condemning Pamuks books because he tries to speak about it.
yes I am Turkish.I know many Turkish ppl knows history and the truth.Unfortunately we dont have freedom of speech,religion,expression etc.Thats why many ppl doesnt tell openly like O.Pamuk.Starting to join EU some law changed and ppl start to talk about historical reality
Pamuk is a magician. I've read 3 novels by him and I not only admire him for his artistry but also for his courage in voicing some of the most troubling issues of our times. People who denounce him as "traitor" do not know the ABCD of literature. How can someone doubt his deep love for Turkey after reading, say, "Snow"? Every page of the novel bears witness to his genuine love for his country. It's another thing that for people like Pamuk, as for all sensible people, LOVE is often more nuanced.
MrSriman07 10 months ago
Has he written any book in English? I hope not.
I am not impressed with his English when he talks.
faranak777 10 months ago
I never knew he is a jew (yahudi) from Turkey,one day I have seen an ad in San Francisco Chronicle under-famous jewish writers going to sign their books etc.-This guy is from a very rich family,he never worked in his life.He had so much time to come up or make up phony-fake ass stories.I believe he is using jews for his personal gains.Mr.pamuk thinks that he is talking for all Turkish citizens.In Turkey he has zero credibility-respectability.Pamuk is a loser,he is a dishonest crooked person !
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"Word like colors in a painting" blah, blah...
When is screenplay due. And the Istanbul movie?
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carsanookdotcom 1 year ago
It's ridiculous how modern-day Turkey deals with the Armenian genocide claiming it's a western conspiracy, everybody is against Turkey, the Armenian archives are still closed (which is complete rubbish), and blahblah. And simply because he addresses this issue, he's called a "traitor." Ludicrous idiots.
EmperorAurelian 1 year ago
"there's a dog there" :D
GrigolConservative 1 year ago
ORHAN PAMUK IS A MONKEY
ORHAN PAMUK LOVES NOT TURKEY AND IS NOT A TURKISH GUY'
HE IS GAY
turkishwulf1988 1 year ago
@turkishwulf1988 Please don't write something so childish and arbitrary!! Explain why and which part of Mr. Pamuk is so objectionable that you have to say this against him?! He's a great writer and has been recognized as so by both Turks and non-Turks alike! Pick a book of his and read. Don't be brainwashed by nationalists or be fed with whatever they try to shove to you.
estherteng 1 year ago
Thank you Mr Pamuk. Your books and talks are really inspiring.
Tomo la pulsera crono regalo de mi hermana y la convierto en un objeto de poder. Y me comprometo a terminar mi primera novela postmoderna el 31 12 2010
yambria 1 year ago
Filthy traitor !!..
He didn't get that cheap award for writing ..
He got it for being a traitor to his country ! ...
fan5x 1 year ago
ım pround to be turkish and fuck orhan pamuk and we never killed 1 millon armenians we are always been ready to open old history books and proof we didnt killed 1 millon armenians. armenian goverment run aways when we offer them that
france ,hundred years they been fuck middle affican peoples , america been use atom bomb on japan and killed millon peoples , what abaut vietnam war ,? or kuba they are since 40 years under pressure and embargo from america where is human rights ?
MrTurkcocuk 1 year ago
Nobel is a political price, and Orhan Pamuk is an asshole. He dont even know to speak fluently and write correctly.
araldogan 1 year ago
I love this writer!!
liberodistupire 1 year ago
If Turkey has poor human rights, then why shouldn't he state that? Infact, hiding it would make it a big injustice because if you are not addressing this problem, you are accepting a cycle of human suffering. By exposing the government, he is exposing a small, elite group of facists which in no way represents 70 million people that reside in Turkey, or billions that live in the East. Why can some people not seperate rulers to people? Stop being so nationalistic!
asopaso07 1 year ago
Orhan Pamuk was tried under the Turkish article 301 "Insulting Turkishness" because he admitted that Turkey commited genocide against Armenians and that it is still oppressing its 20million Kurdish population. This man speaks nothing but the truth in the most deep, poetic, painful yet humorous way. He is truely a intelligent, classy and cultured individual. I am proud to have been born in the same city as him. All my love and respect!
asopaso07 1 year ago
He's a self -seeking sycophant.........
He's doesn't have an honest bone in his body.
smayundav09 1 year ago
the set up in Orhan Pamuk's White Castle 'closely resembles' "Pedro'nun Zorunlu Istanbul Seyahati" - a book which was is thought to be written by Critobal and Villanon in the 16th century, and translated to Turkish in 1996. Pamuk did not give any references to that book, which makes him a plagiarist. It is unbelievable that the Nobel Prize Committee missed it.
talsid 1 year ago
he cant even use turkish. in translated books to english the language is better guess success of translator. basicly he won price just becouse of his councious political stands which aimed to win this price. you know westerns alwayssymphaty the eastern guy who stand against his own culture as a wanna be western. prolly to justfy theire thoguhts
talsid 1 year ago
Nobel is a political prize !
smayundav09 2 years ago
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this is the thing you are woried about TURKS calms he is a TURK bud he is a Kurd because, he deffends the rights of the Kurds. This is the problem with al talented Kurds in syria iran and iraq
they cant really say they are kurd
LIKE JEWS REMEMBER???
sayfadeen6 2 years ago
His work is quite inspiring, and is a novel author. I do not believe his personal veiws about Turkish, Kurds, Armenians have valid points as well. What I do have a problem with is; that mostly for political reasons on his views rather than his actual work that he is so well promoted. There is an anti-Turkish sentiment around most of the western world and that is soley not a good reason to fuel his success.
buraktigin 2 years ago
ne kadar irkçi insanlarsiniz, hepinizin IQsu dusuk bir avuç embesilsiniz, Orhan Pamuk gibi bir adamin donunun lastigi olamazsiniz siz. ödülü sonuna dek haketti; o turkiye'de gelmis geçmis en buyuk yazarlardan biridir. bir tane dahi kitabini okumus olsaydiniz anlardiniz, ama nerde sizde o kültür?
mononokez 2 years ago 7
@mononokez kitaplarini sevmemek aptal demek mi sence?
cemalson 2 months ago
ermeni dostu ibne o ödülü al götüne sok emi
cenkcez 2 years ago
orhan pamuk Turkiye dusmani,yabanci ajan!!!
Turkiyenin parcalanmasi icin calisanlardan birisi!!!
Seriati destekleyen,Turk ordusuna ve demokrasisine karsi calisan ajan
KAHROLSUN SANA HAIN !!!
roselannq 2 years ago
turkey fucked england, greece, france, and allies in ww1
Turkishman72 2 years ago
And then the allies fucked up the rest of the world since...
Zishan0706 2 years ago
really important novel
Babanacaz 2 years ago 4
HAHAAH ökuz, can be translated in....
very funy if you could understand turkisch, what will happen one day(i hope so)...
About his prize, i think he deserved it, he's not the best, but he did good job. I think also he did'n get the novel, just because he's talented. There are some politic ifluences, that gave him the prize.. It's a example from holding turkey back from eu. Like a bronze prize...... JUST my opinion. And americans, british people, respect him, so we respect your autors
Kosedag1604 2 years ago
Kose,
Excuse me, the EU is working with Greeks, Armenians and Kurds to divide and destroy Turkey. They are just hiring puppets like AKP, CHP to weaken Turkey. No matter how "democratic" Turkey is, they will still work to destroy Turkey. Why do you think they listened to Armenian bribes to jail people who disagree with the "So-Called Genocide" and the EU even took PKK of the terrorist group list and is arming the PKK.
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
I said the same thing nearly, i said
the EU is holding turkey back, you talked about destroying turkey with AKP , CHP. The EU is scared from Turkey, that is why they are trying to desincrease the power. But that isn't possible in this time anymore. EU can do whatever they like, but the growing turkey economic can stand against unknown state enemies. Don't worry mate, this country is maybe not the best, but can safe his self without any help..
Kosedag1604 2 years ago
Kosedag,
I know, I am going to agree with you with this part. Seriously the EU is just trying to bribe, use, exploit, manipulate and so on to Turkey, but we need a leader that will give the EU a middle finger and lets just get back on our feet again. I mean we are becoming the 15th largest economy, and it is growing even more, I am happy with this progress nonetheless.
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
cool
Kosedag1604 2 years ago
Dude... nothing is black and white like you say it is.Things are more sophisticated than just being able to put you middle finger up.There is a dominant diplomatic process which not only Turkey but all nations must obey. Furthermore to increase wealth global cooperation is necessary, a must. If we go back to the hostile era, (pre AKP) then forget it decades worth of work will be undone.Will find ourselves in the stone age before even we have a chance to turn our heads.
TheGecefeneri 2 years ago
Orhan Pamuk is a paid agent of Zionist Freemasons to destroy and bring corruption to Turkish soil. Including his leftist-communist-marxist butt buddy Taner Akcam. Long live Turkish patriotism!
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
and where is your evidence? one thing i can assure you is that there is a very low possibility for a marxist to be a freemason, since you need to be believer in God to be a freemason which most radical marxists are not. You are only deceiving yourself, myfriend. Long live globalisation, global culture rather than the narrow minded Turkish patriotism.
TheGecefeneri 2 years ago
TheGecefeneri,
I said Orhan Pamuk was a Zionist. It is completely seperate to how Taner Akcam is a marxist and a communist. But they are both allies nonetheless. After all, the Jews invented Communism, let's not forget that. Karl Marx is a Jew, and this is a fact.
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
What are you talkin? "Orhan Pamuk is a Zionist" Are you mad or just silly?
Orhan Pamuk is not a jew and not a zionist... That's a fact, too...
LittleMoonFlower88 2 years ago 2
LittleMoon,
Of course he is, Orhan Pamuk is on the payroll of Zionist Jewish Bankers to work on the division, collapse and exploitation of Turkish soil. He is also an agent of the EU, Greece and Armenia as well and he is a self hater of his race : FACT.
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
tabii canim. soykirim var dedigi icin zaten o türk degil, degil mi? o yahudi hatta siyonist. ermeni. yunanlar ve avrupalilar icin canini verir. kafayi yedin herhalde. herkes istedigini söyleyebilmeli bu ülkede. orhan pamuk senin benim gibi bir türk. fazla lafa gerek yok. kabul edemiyorsan o senin kendi sorunun. ben yardim edemem sana kusura bakma. irkicilik fenalasmaya baslamis türkiyede. bunu farkettim. irkiciligin ne denli kötü bir sey oldugunu anlamis degilsiniz sanirim.
LittleMoonFlower88 2 years ago 2
Farkinda misin bilmem, ama Ermeniler okulda ogreniyor dogustan ogretiyorlar Turkler dusman ve barbar diye. Turkiye baska ulkelere gore Cennet. Russia. Isreal, italia gibi ulkelerde irkcilik acaip asiri.
Ermenilerin yuzde 80 Turk dusmani ve Turkleri kotulemek icin her seyi yaparlar. Simdi Ermeniler Turk Yazarlarda katliyam oldu diyorlar degin kendilerini haklicikart maya calisiyorlar.
3choBlast3r 2 years ago
ona bakarsan bizde de irkiclik var. Bunu inkar edemezsin. birsey söyleyecegim. soykirimdan bahsetmiyorum. o daha kantilanmadi. ama türkiye gecmisinde cok yanlisar yaptik. osmanli devleti de cogu seyi yanlis yapti. bizim millet neden yaptigi yanlislari kabul edemiyor? Neden böyleyiz biz? orhan pamuk öyle düsünüyorsa türkiyeyi kötüledigi anlamina mi geliyor? hayir. adam sadece düsündügünü söylüyor. hicbirimiz türkiyenin yaptigi yanlislarini söyleyemiyor. neden?
LittleMoonFlower88 2 years ago
we understood,wht is the racism..it is nice idea and we need them :)
ein wolk=Turk
ein nation=Turkey
ein führer=Ataturk
holymoses1611 2 years ago
you are mixing the history of turks with the history of germans, this is the german motto lol
nowarpeace4ever 2 years ago
really ?ohh bravo to u dude u got great brain
holymoses1611 2 years ago
Lovely man!!!
ssbbb 2 years ago 2
Orhan is great...
Bandoleros62 2 years ago 4
What Orhan Pamuk said or forced to say, and why he is awarded with Nobel prize are all little steps to weaken Turkey and aim to divide Turkey into pieces as the heads of New World Order desired 90 years ago...
ozkuur 2 years ago
Her biriniz nobellik bir Orhan Pamuksunuz.
Ve hatta bana göre ondan da yamuksunuz.
Türk'ün kanı akarken gözleri yumuksunuz.
Kör olur görmezsiniz ermeni tedhişini
Sizin gibi aydının yediden yetmişini.
dedekorkutum 2 years ago
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bchick1987 2 years ago
he is sick minded person!!
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bchick1987 2 years ago
Your just saying that because he said the Armenian Genocide happened, guess what this guy is one of the few proud turkish out in the world, he is the only one of the few that really knows what his grand parents did to the Armenians.
arthurkirakosyan7 2 years ago
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bchick1987 2 years ago
my fav part of MOUSSE in the box set is the prat about the UNICEF powdered milk and in my name is DER speigel about hrant dink and the weapons stashes of the PKK
diablocodyify 2 years ago
my fav part of MOUSSE in the box set is the prat about the UNICEF powdered milk and in my name is DER speigel about hrant dink
diablocodyify 2 years ago
he said painting is a trouble in islam lol :)) That's not fuckin true. Well his speech clearly shows that he's been lickin some asses to get the nobel prize. This prick shouldn't be considered as a Turkish citizen and he could shove that nobel prize right in his ass.
bilgisayarmuhendisi 2 years ago
Orhan you DOG we all know others wrote your books for you, your a another puppet of the anti TURK propaganda machine. Sen Turk olmanin ne oldugunu ogrenemi$sin daha, neden? cunku ibensinde ondan!!! biz seni Turk olarak kesinlikle kabul etmeyiz alcak hain kopek...Sen once ibne oldugunu acikla dunyaya
08turk 2 years ago
smd 08turk, "we all know" you mean just u and ur family? He is the best turkish author, and just because he said that 30,000 Kurds were killed and one million Armenians, and nobody dares talk about it shows how much of a man he is, it shows how smart he is, and shows that this guy is truely proud to be a turk. if he weren't then he wouldn't want to know the true history of turkey, such as people like you.
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bchick1987 2 years ago
I don't get it, why would he lie if his whole career was on the line? You know how hated he is now? Your so stupid, history repeats itself and that is what took place with the Holocaust, what u did an hour ago thats history, u take a family picture thats history, its your families historry, how can you say we don't know history? You can't just say it didn't happen and expect to be right, thats the problem with you turks, and I'm geting sick of it.
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bchick1987 2 years ago
I am judging your stupidity from what you have said, saying "noone knows it, not evn turks do NOT know their own history."You never said the genocide happened, show much which of the sentences you're referring to.
arthurkirakosyan7 2 years ago
arthurkirakoysan7, im sure you can relate to a molested traitor puppet like pamuk, it is a typical characteristic of the anti-turk movement, you are cheap talking trash...
08turk 2 years ago
You seem to be really angry with Pamuk but when u say turkish people do not know their own history I think writing fictions out of those forgotten histories can be a good starting point. Fiction doesn't make truth claims and can be countered with other narratives. But it is important to have a narrative in the first place even if u want to counter it. I think u atleast need to thank Pamuk for that. By the bye in spite of your opposition u seem to know more about the author than most.
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bchick1987 2 years ago
What I said was, even a wrong history is better than no history. If Pamuk through his writings is presenting a version of history which u don't think to be true you can at least counter it your own version of facts which you think or know to be true. Pamuk has been the first author in years who have put Turkey in the World literary map. I'm not a Turkish and wouldn't have been discussing Turkish literature or history were it not for Pamuk .
sayandhrupad 2 years ago 3
There were many other people with better command of language and bigger audience and deeper works. But of course, Nobel literature and peace prizes go to certain people of certain missions. maybe I should say who are chosen and who accept their task at some point in their career.
This is such a crooked world. Peace.
youbaslan 2 years ago
As Turkish people we don`t know our own history and you know? Tell me something what do you know about Turkish history if you don`t mind? :)
IzindeyizATAM 2 years ago
ne yazık ki siz uluslararası arenada himaye görmek istiyorsanız Türklüğe, Türk tarihine hakaret edeceksiniz. Türk milletinin değerlerine hakaret edeceksiniz, o zaman her yerde himaye görürsünüz. İşte Orhan Pamuk gibi çocuksanız sizi Nobel ödülüne de aday gösterirler. Eğer piçlerle filan iç içeyseniz ruhunuzda piçlik varsa o zaman sizi Avrupa'da kucaklarlar
Destroyer2811 2 years ago
Armenian lick it accredit the Kurdish yalaması
atacan343434 2 years ago
mother fucker babarian mongol. Ezé ser pista di diya tenim
serser72 2 years ago
satothequeen says this cuz its armenan, check its channel
ertgazi 2 years ago
LONG LIVE ORHAN PAMUK
satothequeen 2 years ago
This is a GREAT MAN for humanity.
satothequeen 2 years ago
I write because. What a testimony!!!!!!
monsgraupus 2 years ago
I also have to add something else. It seems He has a wonderful relationship with his daughter.Fantastic description of school and so true and funny
monsgraupus 2 years ago
I lived in Turkey for quite a while, and If you don't understand anything about Orhan Pamuk's work you really know nothing about your own country (if you are Turkish) Kemal has just been one phase in the development of a country I love very much. But not everything it has, or has had to offer to the world. And Erol a traitor to what? you don't even know
monsgraupus 2 years ago
Er Ist kein türke er ist sohn einer Armenischen Nutte und Familienname ist Yamuk
cologne28111 2 years ago
iyiki varsin...kalbindekilerini ve yüregindekilerini bizimle paylastigin icin tskler
esruley 2 years ago
your time will come orhan....and when it does i hope its painful you traitor!
erol1982 2 years ago
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fuck whoever reads this
willDANCEforPENNIES 2 years ago
Orhan Pamuk and Recep Tayyip Erdogan are the realest of Turks. Kemalists caused shame to our people.
PeaceInAnatolia 3 years ago
tayyip is not turk, a georgian, as he said many times...
caresinebaksana 2 years ago
ya bi siktir git mal mısın nesin
herrplanck 2 years ago
Kemalism is definition of Turkey...Kemalism is meanig of Turkey....Fuck you SOn of Bitch Fuck Tayyip and Orhan PAmuk...Fuck you and Go away from Turkey...Orosbu çocuğu
TurkObscureMusician 2 years ago
shame on you!!
dont call yourself a turk u idiot!!
suppose you want us to back to covering up women and kissing carpets!!
you backward fuck!!
erol1982 2 years ago
Aside from everything, the real reason why the Turkish intellectuals dislike Pamuk is simply because he's a plagiarist. His plagiarisms in "White Castle" (see Fuad Carim's translation of Critobal and Villanon's novel) is well documented. Part of his nobel speech is from a novel by Amin Malouf. Even Pamuk's mother admitted that "the bag" he referred to in the speech was just a small purse. It is really unfortunate for a writer to make fame with his political comments rather than his actual work.
mehmudqeshqeri 3 years ago
Russian invaded Turks as well as Britain,France,italian and specially Greeks(with a huge hate since Troy)Armed Armenian sided with russian troops to fight against Turks,As truth is first casulty in wars,both side did horrible things to each other.
My personal feeling is when we lived together for over 1100 years we become more than just neighbours.I still hope we can stop carrying the baggage of hate and find the goodness in each other.
placebo4yo 3 years ago 2
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"Islam and painting is a trouble subject".
Hmmmm that made me think......
It's so obvious that they gave him the Nobel Prize and told him to put some shit on Islam in front of all those people. I hate that prick so much.
bilgisayarmuhendisi 3 years ago
yeah, im a turk and i absoloutley love this guy
calling him "genius" is not good enough
i would love to have been there with him and say that our fucking old goverment killed over 1 million armenians...
204pegcity 3 years ago 9
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Shut the fuck up m8. U can't be a Turk right. How could you say that our government killed over 1 million armenians. Read some history u ignorant cunt. Millions of people including babes killed in iraq for no fuckin reason by highly armed USA soilders. Why don't u say anything about that huh. SHAME ON YOU!!!
bilgisayarmuhendisi 3 years ago
actually, i said our "old" goverment did so...
fuck the ottomans they can suck my left nut, they were islamic extremists. shit, armenians arent exactly cute little rabbits either, they killed hundreds of thousands as well, except turkey never screamed genocide...
And what does Iraq have to do with this subject, i didnt go to a military school to babysit american forces :P, they can suck my dick as well, im more of a european than american or turkish
204pegcity 3 years ago
And now you wait respect for your thoughts with this language? Read all other comments and tell me if you could find any other rude messages as much as yours. Is this make sense for you?
BulutCyp 3 years ago
Everyone has different opinions m8. That's what I think about orhan pamuk. Don't care about others.
bilgisayarmuhendisi 3 years ago
lol, there's plenty of people here talkin with alot worse language than me, and the thing is when i try to reason with anyone on this god forsaken website they seem to message a death threat so people who are answerin me tellin me im using bad language need to grow some balls because people dont accept "nice" on youtube...
204pegcity 3 years ago
yes, me too! Not only Armenians but also Kurds and Alevi people.
foenda1988 3 years ago
this is doing grey propagand. its not Türk
ertgazi 2 years ago
lol, yes im not fully a Turk but have Turkish roots, stfu, your english sucks balls anyway!
204pegcity 2 years ago
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LooooL... Fuck Pamuk..
PerdelerVeBen 3 years ago
what is the fucking problem with you?
i am a Chinese reader reading his Kar, i think it is better than a masterpiece, what's the problem with you? then Fuck You....
bbaqua2056 3 years ago 2
o grande escritor no baaa do baa do siki do siki do planeta
lolitadrame 3 years ago
Hes a great writer, i believe he's in the top ten ever.
papke25 3 years ago
YAAH : yet another ass hole
woozynumbatt 3 years ago
what separate us as human from animals is our consciousness, & compassion. regret our cruel behavior, admit to our mistakes and feeling of guilt. for the turkish government and the ultranationalist/fascists I would say it's not a sin to admit to the genocides you committed against the armenians,greeks,assyrians,& kurds but it's sin to deny it and to continue the same policy towards you neighbors and the kurds in particular, democracy & peace are the only option to be part of civilized nations
chavdar1925 3 years ago 2
Lol since when did we commit a genocide against the Kurds? Just because we struggle with the PKK at the moment doesn't mean we commit a genocide on them, you just want that to be accepted but its bullshit.
gezerbey 3 years ago
"Hovhannes Katchaznouni", the first prime minister of Armenia, wrote a report called "Dashnagtzoution Has Nothing to Do Anymore" in 1923, denying that what had happened in 1915 was genocide.
Several copies of the book in European and American libraries were destroyed by some "honest" members of the Armenian Diaspora. However, a few copies were found in Russia and the book has recently been re-published in English, German and French.
gezerbey 3 years ago
If there had been a "genocide", then why did some Armenians attempt to eradicate the book?
Case is closed.
gezerbey 3 years ago
Let me make this clear!! We don't commit genocide against fuckn kurds. They're terrorizing our country where they don't belong and we're killing them just like they deserve it. If u r looking for genocide you should boycott USA because they killed millions of innocent and unarmed people for no fckn reason.
bilgisayarmuhendisi 3 years ago
It seems Pamuk has lot and lot to say.
untilhowlong 3 years ago
Giles Gunn is da man!!!
alexnystrom 3 years ago
He is very exiting this speech.I believe after Nobel prize he had very strong pressure his head because of Turkish fascist group who blamed him about Armenians issue later he left Turkey because of his life threatining.
Evolutions35 3 years ago
The same applies to asero227
XXCILGINCANERXX 3 years ago
@ ElkhanBakinez: please shut up, you don't have a clue, that's why you're sayin' such a crap here... Orhan Pamuk is one of the best novelists in the world..just because of people like you with a fashistic point of view turkey is still staying behind so many things...Orhan Pamuk told the world the truth about Turkey's real situation...there has been a genocide on the Armenian folk and hell yeah it is damn true that the Kurds are oppressed by the Turks since the year one! Long live Orhan Pamuk!!!
XXCILGINCANERXX 3 years ago
I agree..After that( About Armenians and Kurds) speech Turkish fascist group threatened O.Pamuk and he left Turkey for a while.
Evolutions35 3 years ago 3
Allah bütün fa$istlerin belasini verir insallah, ya$a sen Orhan Pamuk!! Dogrulari söyleyen tek sensin!
XXCILGINCANERXX 3 years ago
He is married with the doughter of Nobel Foundation Ditector since 1996.
ElkhanBakinez 3 years ago
soysuz köpek soyunu kurutmak lazım ibnenin evladı
asero227 3 years ago
I am 100% aggree with jazzmanEE. He is a brilliant writer. Turkish people have to be proud of him, his works and his awards, but unfortunately they are too much involve with anti-democratic feelings, and they deny his greatness. No problem, Orhan Pamuk is belong to the World and to the open minded people who appreciate his work with a deep love of art. Congratulations Dear Orhan Pamuk.
sunay66 3 years ago
I am 100% aggree with jazzmanEE. PAMUK is a brilliant writer. Turkish people have to be proud of him, his works and his awards, but unfortunately they are too much involve with anti-democratic feelings, and they deny his greatness. No problem, Orhan Pamuk is belong to the World and to the open minded people who appreciate his work with a deep love of art. Congratulations Dear Orhan Pamuk.
sunay66 3 years ago 3
His early works are better than late ones.
koblenzer01 3 years ago
Excellent author! His prose is poetry and his poetry as dense as philosophy.
I just love him!
But I wouldn't be surprised that there are many readers who would never understand him. He's not easy to read :-)
BellyComedy 3 years ago 7
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Pamuk does not deserve Nobel Prize for his trash works! Shame on Nobel Prize Committee
ElkhanBakinez 3 years ago
I´m very sorry for turkish people who mix politic and great art. I love pamuks work. He deserve this Prize for his books. You just envy him and you hate him because of what he says about Armenians and Kurds...this is politics and not art- you dont want to see truth, you fascist.
jezinka0077 3 years ago
Which one you decribe not a Turkish ppl.You are telling about Turkish oligarchy..They control Turkish grand Assembly with army..etc.
Evolutions35 3 years ago
are you a türk? I know few turkish guys and they told me that they hate Pamuk, and again the reason was politics and not that he writes bad literature. but I hope (really) that there are turkish people who have guts to face the truth about their own history (every nation have his own black spots on its brave face, even mine and everybody elses) and arent condemning Pamuks books because he tries to speak about it.
jezinka0077 3 years ago
yes I am Turkish.I know many Turkish ppl knows history and the truth.Unfortunately we dont have freedom of speech,religion,expression etc.Thats why many ppl doesnt tell openly like O.Pamuk.Starting to join EU some law changed and ppl start to talk about historical reality
Evolutions35 3 years ago 4
Genius is too weak a word to describe the brilliance of Orhan Pamuk's writing.
jazzmanEE 3 years ago 2