"...according to Dr. Eelco Rohling, the world could reach 560ppm (of CO2) by 2100...560ppm would melt all Arctic ice, and later the Antarctic. Rohling said that once the Antarctic melts, sea levels would rise 60m-70m and 'the planet will reach an ice-free state.' "
---Scientific American 6 Dec 2011
So, according to Hansen the planet has been ice free for most of its history, since CO2 has been at higher levels than today for the past 4.5 billion years.
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What the hell does the government think they are doing by arresting people for sitting on a public sidewalk? I cannot believe more people are not commenting about how those police think they are in the right for making a peaceful demonstration against the actions of the government break up BY ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING!! Agree with them or NOT we have the right to let the government know we disapprove of their crap get rich decision making!
Well, I believe in free speech but this is ridicule. No Gestapo. and no Hollywood propaganda PLEASE!!! West Virginia has had enough abuse in the past. Give West Virginians their dignity. :(
We need to have a renewable infinite supply of energy, which we have available?
Really! What planet is this dip shit living on? If that were true it would be in use. Go back home to your infinite green supply of money and shut the fuck up. I hate these idiot activist fakes who know nothing about reality.
@hawkerdoo Well, she's probably wrong (Lord knows I wish she were right - I used to be one of those "green optimists") about "clean infinity renewable ressources of energy" - however, her being wrong on that point doesn't make the problem go away. Ironically, it states it.
@neale zumm I agree it's a problem, and wish we had a solution. Right now fossil fuel is all we got, and I believe we need to find a way to make it more efficient rather than focusing solely on how many miles per gallon a vehicle gets. Nuclear power is one source if it didn't have such evil implications attached to it. One fuel cell the size of a lipstick tube could run your car for infinity, but the evil people would use it for destructive purposes. Shame......
@hawkerdoo "evil people"...wow, you are fighting the evil people, aren`t you? do you believe in god, heaven? what about hell? are you afraid to go to hell? do you think the "evil people" will get you? You see, the average adult is naive like a child. like you.
@hawkerdoo are you trying to be a good boy? are you a christian? you sure smell like one. you see , Christians are a step back in the evolutionary ladder.
@viagemixtlan Seeing how you have made an assumption on a baseless platform, I'm guessing you haven't even started climbing the evolutionary ladder. Now run along small mind.
@hawkerdoo It doens't matter what kind of god you believe in, even if it's only an " abstract idea" of god. You are as fucked and as dumb as a Christian...
@viagemixtlan What matters is that you find a path that will help you begin the evolution process and place your existence up here with higher forms of life such as myself. Now be a good little monkey and go yank your noodle until you have achieved this step.
@hawkerdoo wow, you are pathetic! To know how to use words doesn't mean that your message is meaningful. And, to prove my point, I'm gonna quote some of your dumbass thoughts: "Right now fossil fuel is all we got, and I believe we need to find a way to make it more efficient".ahahah how stupid! Another one: "Nuclear power is one source if it didn't have such evil implications". Wow, you are asleep and have no idea! Fuck it, who cares? Have a nice death, my retarded friend.
@viagemixtlan Okay bone head tell me what else we have that can replace our energy use, and don't start with the green shit that we all know is not efficient and expensive. You've proved only one thing. How dumb you are.
@hawkerdoo I think you should go on. Keep thinking you are in control of your life. Keep thinking you are the master of your mind. That's the core of our slavery. You are not alone. In fact, you are the rule. That's why our species is at the end of its path. But you will die thinking you own your thoughts. Keep living your life based on that assumption, and let's see where it takes you.
@viagemixtlan Anyone who"s evolved enough knows we have limited control. There are many elements that shape our destiny. The churning of an ocean can change a landscape forever, the discovery of breakthrough science by one man can change the course of life forever, so on and so on. Understand we are not slaves we are at the mercy of forces beyond oer control. Life is experience of , discovery, challenges, pleasure etc. You are weak if you think you have more than limited control. Die happy.
@hawkerdoo you only think that because you are a slave. The most enslaved are those who consider themselves to be free. You are lost. I can prove to you that you do not own your mind. Nobody is the owner of his mind. The internal dialogue is only familiar because it has been there since we were born, but it only sounds through us. We are on the top of the food chain. I'll tell you a secret of the mind now. there are only 3 personalities they have devised for us, and we all fit in one.
@hawkerdoo I'll tell you the 3 types and you tell me where you fit, ok?
People in the first class are the perfect secretaries, assistants, companions. They have a very fluid personality, but their fluidity is not nourishing. They are, however, serviceable, concerned, totally domestic, resourceful within limits, humorous, wellmannered, sweet, delicate. In other words, they are the nicest people one could find, but they have one huge flaw: they can't function alone.
@hawkerdoo They are always in need of someone to direct them. With direction, no matter how strained or antagonistic that direction might be, they are stupendous. By themselves, they perish. People in the second class are not nice at all. They are petty, vindictive, envious, jealous, selfcentered. They talk exclusively about themselves and usually demand that people conform to their standards.
@hawkerdoo They always take the initiative even though they are not comfortable with it. They are thoroughly ill at ease in every situation and never relax. They are insecure and are never pleased; the more insecure they become the nastier they are. Their fatal flaw is that they would kill to be leaders.
In the third category are people who are neither nice nor nasty. They serve no one, nor do they impose themselves on anyone. Rather they are indifferent.
@hawkerdoo They have an exalted idea about themselves derived solely from daydreams and wishful thinking. If they are extraordinary at anything, it is at waiting for things to happen. They are waiting to be discovered and conquered and have a marvelous facility for creating the illusion that they have great things in abeyance, which they always promise to deliver but never do because, in fact, they do not have such
@viagemixtlan That was my point. We are merely the occupier of our mind. The 3 you have listed are something that can play in the mind of each of us throughout the course of your life until you settle in on the one that best fits you, the individual. No exact science there. Life is a journey that supplies you with opportunity to discover and excel in what limited capacity you have to plot your destiny. I agree we are no where near the top of the food chain. Think universe.
@hawkerdoo "We are merely the occupier of our mind". Wrong. When i said we were not on the top of the food chain, this is what i meant. The race that is above is is the one who provided us with the mind. indeed they gave us their mind, and we use it as if it was ourselves. To be free you need to get away from the mind, but you are not even trying. You are institutionalized. That's our situation now. Don't you want to break free from the mind? Or will you settle with this crap?
@hawkerdoo You are talking abut the mind, but you still have to bow down to yours. You are not free, you can't be free because you must obey your mind. They use us like we use chicken. Now, do you want to be free, or are you happy as a slave? Do you want to continue living your life pretending you are happy? There's no possibility for happiness unless you beat your mind. You say life is a journey, but yours haven't even started. And if you continue this way, you'll die without finding the truth.
@hawkerdoo "we"? Hey, don't speak for all of us. What you say is correct for most of us. But some of us do not accept that and challenge the mind. however this is something you might never find out...
@viagemixtlan I beg to differ that you or I have to bow down to the mind. With the ability to utilize your limited control you can in fact manipulate the mind to follow the path you create. It is you that is trapped by thinking you are free when in fact your not. Allow yourself to explore the field of discovery and like myself you will find the freedom to enjoy life. Everybody can if they learn to do it. The truth can only be explored to an assumption of what is. Mortal existence a joke.
@hawkerdoo "I beg to differ that you or I have to bow down to the mind". You still don't get it. Look, you think you own your mind, right? You don't, because the internal dialogue never stops. If your mind was really yours, you would be able to shut off the internal dialogue as you please. Can you? I'll answer that to you: you simply cannot stop the internal dialogue inside your head. Try it. It's impossible, because the creature running the show keeps the words flowing.
@hawkerdoo Try to stop the internal dialogue. You cannot sustain silence, because if you could, you would be free, and you are not. Your internal dialogue will only stop when you die. But then, you won't have any time left to figure out what to do. You will lose the game. Analise your internal dialogue. It's not you talking... Try to silence your mind and get to know the creature that uses you like cattle...
Now THIS is a real protest! Not like those Tibetan monks who burned themselves alive because they were facing oppression. Screaming and shouting and celebrity speeches!!! Now thats a protest!
Coal kills when and where it is mined, when and where it is burned, and when and where its waste is disposed of. The destruction of public housing is in large a result of coal ash waste used as fill dirt, dumps, and landfills from coal-gasification plants that operated throughout this country between 1880s and 1960s until natural gas put them out of business. Now coal-gasification plants are resurfacing as "clean coal." MY video shows coal waste in public housing.
There is nothing real about this woman!!!! Cheek implants, chin implants, nose job, and lip injection.....she and the other supporters of such un-AMERICAN practices should be shipped out of this country to live a long , labor filled life in a third world country without such luxuries that the coal from this country affords them!!!! It is apparent she was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, and has never known a hard day of work. Stay out of our neck of the woods, Daryl Hannah!!!
Someone please tell me, why so many famous people refuse to age gracefully. They just begin to look like another similar looking puppet on the puppetmasters shelf. I never knew Daryl Hannah was related to Joan Rivers until today.
People say wow and great work. A woman that has no idea how important the coal industry is to Kentucky and West Virgina gets arrested. A woman gets arrested standing up for an issue that she knows nothing about. Oh yes, great work
@FriendTron450 If only you knew just how wrong you are with that comment. You have no idea who you are talking to. I would gaurantee that I know more about the issue of Mountain Top Removal than you and Mrs. Hannah put together. Do you know how Darly Hannah and her friends protest about cleaner energy, but when someone trys to do so, they protest. Like the Liquefied Natural gas plant that produced less pollution than gasoline and diesel fuels. And made transport of NG easier. Hannah protested.
@estrangeddimensions i beg to differ i worked for massy coal all my life. so lets stick to the topic which is mountain top removal not liquefied natural gas.
@FriendTron450 Actually, I was backing up my point. There was supposed to be a LNG plant built 20 miles off the coast of Malibu. The plant would compress natural gas to make the storage and transport of NG more easy and efficent. Hannah and her friends protested the building of the plant claiming that it would disturb the ecology of the ocean. Hannah claims to be an activist of more efficient ways of doing things but she protest when people try to find ways of doing just that.
@estrangeddimensions so now were talking about NG and in case you didn't get the memo there is cleaner more efficient forms of energy. so really i think that in 1984 u paid your hard earned $2.50 to go see Splash you hated it felt like you had been ripped and just hate Daryl Hannah but dont forget about Ron Howard or Tom Hanks or Eugene Levy...
@FriendTron450 There you go with your pointless assumptions again. Once again, wrong. In 1984 I was 5 and I have nothing against Hannah. I know all about efficient forms of energy? Geothermal etc. I feel could feel up this entire page talking about all of the new technolgies that are dealing with energy. Even technologies that include coal. For example Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle technology which converts coal from a solid to gaseous state. Which can be used to make electricity.
@estrangeddimensions cool. but i think that we have got to get away from coal all together not just a ruse to make it seem green. like gasoline with ethanol. noticed how that just about all gasoline u buy now is made up of 10% ethanol yet we are still hooked on gasoline and paying gasoline prices. it has to be viable alternative. not just lip service.
@FriendTron450 I agree to a point. We need to do what is going to help our enviornment for future generations. Many people do not know however, how the coal companies are trying to find better ways of doing things. A company like Consol is working on a project to store C0 2 emssions underground eliminating the amount that is released into the atmosphere. As far as the Issue of MTR. I'm not saying it's right. I just feel sorry for the men that will end up losing their jobs because of shut downs.
@FriendTron450 I feel sorry for the men that can't work because of delayed permits. I hate to see any man that has a family to take care of lose his job. I guess that is why I take up for MTR. If there was a way for MTR to end but the miners could keep working then that would be great. That's all I'm saying. And sorry about the comment from before. Now this is the kind of discussion that I'm talking about.
@estrangeddimensions i dont know what is wrong with me. must be the early morning hour but i think that we agree on a couple of things. a healthy environment for future generations and the fact that you cant stop talking about how cool coal is. u a shareholder??
@FriendTron450 You call this a debate? I thought we were going to have a reasonable discussion but you only want to make pointless assumptions. Like this brilliant brain buster about how I hate Daryl Hannah about some movie I have never seen. The point that I made about Hannah was part of my discussion and is relevant. Since you can't make a valid point and only can make an assumption then you are wasting my time.
@estrangeddimensions now who is assuming i never thought this was a debate. if i thought this was a debate i would have already schooled your ass. this was just me fucking with you. have a great morning...or not.
@FriendTron450 No, actually I don't feel that way. Your assumptions are wrong. Once a mountain top is removed, it will never be the same. All of the replanted trees and grass will never return a mountain to what it was, only a portion of what it was. But never like it was found. I am not going to sit here and preach the " now the mountain is flat and more usuable" speech. That is so played out. No, I don't think that a mountain can be put back the way it was. Your comment........so false.
@estrangeddimensions hey asshole if your gonna reply to my comments try and read them first. that is how this works. i actually said,"once the mountain top is removed it cannot be put back as it was found."
Trust me, minium wage is better than no wage. And please tell me why the majority of coal towns are poverty stricken and practially ghost towns? Why do coal towns have such a high rate of illness compared to towns without coal industry? Travel to Harlen Co. KY and look at what the coal industry has done for that place. Once the easy coal was gone, so were the jobs it provided. And what was left? It will happen again to miners. What will they do then.
But if your so worried about what the miners will do, then why stop what way they make money now? Also, travel to anywhere along the Monongahela River from Pgh. down. Old steel boomtowns, depressed and run down. It's not just coal-such is the scourage of industrialism.But, without it, we would be another 3rd world country.This is the foundation of a Capitalistic Society, one with freedom.
I came from the Pgh area. For the last 20yrs.crime and poverty shot through the roof.One could have argued tourism there.Didn't work. Now we buy steel from China-I am glad mining jobs are here to stay, it will never change, because THAT is Capitalism. I can only suggest that if it bothers you so, perhaps you'd feel better about life living in a mudhut in the jungle somewhere-I won't hold my breath waiting for you to go. Remember, those places don't embrace freeedom of speech-either.
What the human species has done since the beginning of its existance-adapt. I find it curious that people credit mere humans with the ability to 'destroy Mother Earth" while simultaneously questioning "how ever will humans SURVIVE?" once coal reserves have been used up.This is why many enviros lose credibility:the constant changing of core beliefs and arguments from minute to minute,the presentation of the thought behind the argument is just too flawed.
And once the damage is far beyond what it is now and the coal is gone what do you expect the ppl to do then when what lil jobs in the coaling is gone are suppose to do Without the mountians it will be barren hills and poisioned water how will any tourism or bottling companies even think about coming in then i am from SE Ky I love that place and the last time I was there I was overcome was a sense of depression over what I was seeing. And ppl still were poor with no jobs avalible to them at all
And to think that blowing up the mountains is called progress. If you believe this is wrong, don't give your opinion through the kitchen window, get out there and do something.
If only we would live by this man's view: "Man did not weave the web of life-he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." - Native American Chief Seattle.
It must be nice to be wealthy enough to not only not care if you are arrested, but to also not care about wanting to take away people's livlihoods. Because you CAN go back to your nice home in California, once an area becomes depressed and crime goes through the roof, due to a state's inhabitants losing all of their jobs.
you have been fooled into believing by those big uncaring companies that this is appalachias only economic possiblity. They are posioning the water and soil causing devestating illness' like cancer. Do research, learn more about other options for power. if we clean up our water, water bottling companies could come in, appalacia is beautiful place, tourism industry could be huge, Appalacia has hella lot more to offer than a dying out fuel source.Coal is running out, what will be left for industry
@YarrowElfwind -Tourism jobs?! Get out of town! At what? 8bucks an hour-try mining engineering-60K to start. Water bottling factory jobs-minimum wage-yay.You have been fooled into believing that a thing called "reclaimation" does not exist. Do you know what standards the industry is held up to? You can no longer change ANY mountain contour w/o putting it back, the way it would be AND resupplying all the vegetation. But, yeah, minimum wage service jobs would be much better-right?
And please tell me how they can put back entire mountians that have been practically leveled out. Over 500 mountians have been leveled across the Virginas, Kentucky and Tennessee. The beauty that draws tourism is disappearing. Do you think Gatlinburg,Tn would be as beautiful and have the tourism it does if the mountians there were lvl'd? No. And you never even mentioned the deathly affects that the industry is having on the water and air.
Yes, I can tell you. There are very specific sets of equations to figure out the estimated natural contour of the land. Now, I know you'd like to believe that they "level" the mountains and dump them into the drinking water, but it is not so. The mountains are replaced, according to very specific equations that factor in everything when rebuilding. It's called the Approximated Estimated Countour.
@YarrowElfwind and, BTW, there is absolutely nothing stopping the tourism industry as it exists here today. So, coal's running out, tourism already exists, so what's the problem then? I guess all the miners supporting their families w/a good wage and benefits should just quit now, to become housekeepers and waitstaff, cooks, and laundry cleaners. ANd bottle H2O, cross their fingers and hope they break even!
I live in a country where we in 2005 had 28,5% our power coming from CO2 neutral sources... Think of the jobs that could be created by building for an example windmills... The coal mine workes could get new jobs there!
The actress and all other outsiders that do not have to depend on these coal mining jobs like TENS OF THOUSANDS in West Virginia do, need to leave us alone, and find a way to do away with all the smog back in California. If you want to "save something", how about a miner's job.
another one who cant make it in the real world. I AM making it in the real world as an animal scientist. It is totally false that animal agriculture is causing global warming. Please read my sidebar in my channel.
If you think that having an actress to 'prove' what you have to say is credible..............But I suppose that would hurt your contributions coming in.
Youre deflecting. My point is that you claim to care about the environment so much that you use words like rape to define the environmental effects of MTR. Yet if a stream is affected or a valley is filled for other purposes such as road building, it's OK. You are a hypocrite plain and simple. Blow the top off of a mountain for resource and reclaim it so that in 10 years it's beginning to reestablish is bad. Blow the top off a mountain and drop a Wal-Mart, parking lot or wind farm in it's OK.
I've seen a lot of large buildings, Wal-Mart and otherwise built in this state, and I've never seen them blow up a mountain to build one. All the roads I see that cross streams have drainage tunnels, they don't cover up entire streams. "A utility-scale wind plant will require about 60 acres per megawatt of installed capacity. However, only 5% (3 acres) or less of this area is actually occupied by turbines, access roads, and other equipment--95% remains free for other compatible uses"
So your comparison doesn't hold up, sure there are impact of development all over the state, I am not against development. MTR is a widespread practice that is responsible for the destruction of 2000 miles of streams and over 500 mountains. All this when underground mining has served us well for over 200 years. And it's all because of profit, most of which goes out of state. leaving WV poor, toxic and scarred.
They don't bulldoze the rock you see exposed where they cut out sections of mountains to drop a Wal-mart, they use explosives. Many shopping centers here are on old MTR jobs. They also use explosives to cut though the middle of mountains for roads. But thats OK, right? I assure you the drainage from these roads and parking lots have much more toxic runoff than any MTR. You also seem to miss my point that you can't replant a parking lot but you can an MTR site.
Standard enviro propaganda. Where are these 500 mountains? I don't deny the number just the fact that they are left barren moonscapes. Reclamation works well. Reclamation includes the streams where water is engineer to be diverted. You just can't get rid of a stream. WV miners are paid, WV taxes are paid. The water runoff from MTR is monitored and treated unlike the underground mines that are not. Your poor, toxic and scarred comment is a joke. Educate yourself. Dont repeat what your told.
I would trade a hundred underdrain systems and drainage ditches for one authentic West Virginia stream. Valleys are gone forever. Approximate original contour is a joke. hydroseed sucks. I've seen reclaims, ones that have had twenty plus years to recover, no one will ever convince me that that is better than real West Virginia wilderness. I'm sorry.
John Amos generates 1000 MW in the same amount of are wind can generate 1mw. If your 3 acres per turbine is clearcut and leveled, that 3000 acres of destroyed ecosystem to match John Amos. Using your statistic, the other infrastucture and turbines would affect 60,000 acres to achive one John Amos. Thats more than 4 times the total permitted area of Kayford and Williams mountians. if the wind only blows 25% of the time thats 1/4 million acres(16 Kayfords) of disturbed land to replace 1 John Amos
That's the great thing about wind. Clear cutting acreage for turbines still allows the ecosystem to operate around the site, rather than tearing up the whole mountain... and after the coal is gone, the wing keeps on giving.
Wind is a long term investment. Long after the coal from Kayford is burned and gone, wind will continue to give energy potential. Of course it's easier and cheaper to surface mine right now. But in the long term wind will produce much more energy than coal, because it is not a finite energy source. So your numbers may check out right now, (I'll take your word for it) Over decades and generations, wind will produce more energy potential than coal.
Youre still repeating what you've heard. AOC is law, regulated to the hilt. If AOC didn't follow the law, CRMW, OVEC, Sierra club and so on would all have law suits pending. Hydroseed is temporary until the original ecosystem or West Virginia Wilderness reestablishes. Plus MTR reclamation is currently reintroducing the American chestnut in WV. I should have said 20 yrs+ but post-SMCRA. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Learn for yourself.
Just because something is legal doesn't mean I have to agree with it. AOC is a joke. Carter himself admitted that the SMCRA is a watered down bill full of loopholes. I have seen multiple strip mine reclaims, they might look good from a distance, but walking around, they are far from beautiful, nothing like WV wilderness.
It is my opinion that MTR is reckless and irresponsible. And reclaiming is the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig. That is my opinion.
Wind power will not have the desired impacts to have any significant effect on an overall energy solution. I completely agree that coal has a total negative impact on the environment, and upon global heating.
I for one, believe that the scare mongering on nuclear has been a huge burden upon the turth. Nuclear is the only answer to clean energy, that can have significiant impact. France obtains 80% of its energy for nukes. They are not afraid.
no shes a has been with a bunch of extremest idiots. youre going to have to better than this people. WE WILL FIGHT TO THE END FOR OUR COAL-FAMLIES-AND MOUNTAINS. dont like it hit the bricks.
Wondering where the material will go if they decapitete mountains to install wind turbines?....oh that's right...it'll have to go "in a valley fill". All those for wind power, and against mountaintop removal, are really sticking their foot in their mouth. The removal of the mountaintop will happen regardless of whether we are doing it for cheaper coal, or windmills.
They bulldoze large level areas including trees to install windmills. You don't think they just slap them up on a mountain and turn them on do you? They bulldoze large roads to haul equipment and cut any trees that get in the way. I hate to tell you what they do to the material they bulldoze (valley fill to put more windmills on) but it's nowhere near as regulated as surface mining. There are Pros and Cons to both MTR and windmills. It's hypocrisy to focus on the cons of one and not the other.
I love how you worded that. Typical Enviro tactic. For wind power they "clear some trees" and any other vegetation and never allow it to regrow as long as the windmills turn. Lets not forget they remove the top of mountains to create a level base for windmill construction demolishing ecosystems that are not allowed to return. MTR "turns mountains inside out" and then 80% are replanted and the natural ecosystem is encouraged to reestablish. Your hypocricy is laughable.
If you think Mountain rape mining is less environmentally invasive than windmills, considering damage to the mountain, destruction of valleys and streams,overall carbon footprint and water pollution... you are either full of shit, delusional, or just plain an idiot. I would happily sacrifice some trees to keep a mountain.
Other than protest MTR, which you have proven to be very hypocritical about, what else might you do for the environment? You'd cut down trees which absorb CO2 and thwart AGW but not a mountain that has been eroded over 300 million years? You are so blinded by what you are fed you only see one, very much distorted side. Drink any Kool-Aid recently?
"Of all the environmental problems caused by mountaintop projects — decapitated peaks, deforestation, the significant carbon footprint — scientists have found that valley fills do the most damage because they destroy headwater streams and surrounding forests, which are crucial to the workings of mountain ecosystems."
Attention people of the world! Stop believing the false accusations of these economic terrorists! Basically everything they say has been proven false time & time again. I take this personal. I can't stand to be lied on. I saw a few days ago where a group of scientists proved the global warming theory wrong and showed where the earth has actually cooled, and Obama shut them and forbids them to go public with it. Some people just don't want to own up that they were wrong about it all along.
Attention, attention, attention.That's all she was doing it for.Not for the better of mankind. She had to boost her PR. Where was she when half of WV was covered in water and hundreds of thousands lost their homes to flooding? Hey Daryl, weren't you aware that the people sitting around you have been living off of a dead miner's check for years! Get real!
Don't protest a Massey mine. What they are doing is perfectly legal. If you have a problem go to the steps of the whitehouse. Coal keeps the lights on. Live with it or get out.
"Tragically but predictably in coal river valley, the children are often sick with headaches and asthma, and among the 200 students and teachers at Marsh Fork elementary school cancer rates are higher than average.
Three teachers have died from cancer and one is struggling with the disease now.
In 2005 one student died from ovarian cancer at age seventeen and another is still battling ovarian cancer. "
Wow, ignorant people are disgusting! How many insults can be heard on this video! Yes, Ms. Hannah has money, but worked hard for every penny, BTW, that is hurting anyone, they are just trying to help, for godsakes! Stop acting like ignorant people, we should be thankful for what Daryl is doing and for this group of people who are doing this protest!
Agreed!! She´s trying to do something nice for this planet, she has to take a lot of crap from ignorant people who just knows how to critisize and wrigth insults on the internet. Go for it Drayl and God Bless you!!!
james hansen is trying to tell everyone that continued burning of fossil fuels including coal continues to "boil the planet"-- just a few more degrees of temperature spells the end of the world and civilization as we know it--- you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out-- thanks Daryl, James, and Ken for your efforts to educate the masses--
as a fellow scientist, i say--
"hey scotty, beam me up, there is no intelligent life down here
and to grumpy, its 2009, not 1949 when we didnt have the knowledge of cleaner resources. i just don't understand why you people hate the earth so much, no regard for your own homeland? and what the hell is that comment about being raised by a real man? again we are in the year 2009, not clan of the cave bear. for you to i say : ignorance-1, intelligence-0. oh how sad.
i don't think they are insults, just facts and my own personal views. MTR is a poor excuse for a job. i think everyone on here pro or against it knows it is destroying the land, its just a matter of owning up to it and having the guts and integrity to change.
hey surface miner, grow up, what are ya gonna "kick some ass" to make people stop protesting? good luck. non violent gatherings will continue, clearly these people care about the earth and your state, and the future of your children. if you had half a brain perhaps you would think to do the same, but instead you choose to react like the missing link. tisk tisk. ignorance-1, humanity-0
II live in the West Virginia. What they do to these beautiful mountains and the flooding and other problems caused by MTR should be regulated, tress should be planted instead of the weed mix they put on the sites and call it reclamation. Big Coal has the money to do what is needed, but they take advantage of us. The CEO has a home on a hillside overlooking us, has a heated driveway and he said that he wanted it there to look down on all of us idiots. I believe that. What can we do?
Nice handle ramitnyou. I know how to spell trees, sorry this offended you. I live in the middle of this area, and if you are from this area YOU KNOW what is really happening. LOOK OUTSIDE! It's not about Hannah, it's about destruction, long term, MTR is something you can't fix overnight. What do you think causes the flooding? You are stupid.
It took millions of years to create our beautiful, ancient mountains and only seconds to destroy. Once destroyed, we'll never have them back. The people responsible for this should be forced to live in these lifeless craters they're creating.
Mining has not really advanced much. Most of this stuff could be done with robotics today without the need to take whole mountains down. The problem is the mining companies do not want to spend the money. If it was not for laws protecting miners these companies wouldn't even supply hard hats.
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Deep ecology nutters. The Planet is cooling abruptly.
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yellowjade1 4 months ago
What the hell does the government think they are doing by arresting people for sitting on a public sidewalk? I cannot believe more people are not commenting about how those police think they are in the right for making a peaceful demonstration against the actions of the government break up BY ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING!! Agree with them or NOT we have the right to let the government know we disapprove of their crap get rich decision making!
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NikFromNYC 7 months ago
Well, I believe in free speech but this is ridicule. No Gestapo. and no Hollywood propaganda PLEASE!!! West Virginia has had enough abuse in the past. Give West Virginians their dignity. :(
megagrafxstudio 10 months ago
We need to have a renewable infinite supply of energy, which we have available?
Really! What planet is this dip shit living on? If that were true it would be in use. Go back home to your infinite green supply of money and shut the fuck up. I hate these idiot activist fakes who know nothing about reality.
hawkerdoo 11 months ago
@hawkerdoo Well, she's probably wrong (Lord knows I wish she were right - I used to be one of those "green optimists") about "clean infinity renewable ressources of energy" - however, her being wrong on that point doesn't make the problem go away. Ironically, it states it.
nealezumm 9 months ago
@neale zumm I agree it's a problem, and wish we had a solution. Right now fossil fuel is all we got, and I believe we need to find a way to make it more efficient rather than focusing solely on how many miles per gallon a vehicle gets. Nuclear power is one source if it didn't have such evil implications attached to it. One fuel cell the size of a lipstick tube could run your car for infinity, but the evil people would use it for destructive purposes. Shame......
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo "evil people"...wow, you are fighting the evil people, aren`t you? do you believe in god, heaven? what about hell? are you afraid to go to hell? do you think the "evil people" will get you? You see, the average adult is naive like a child. like you.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan Nice to see a loone like you ramble out a nothing statement. Your child like social skills are showing.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo are you trying to be a good boy? are you a christian? you sure smell like one. you see , Christians are a step back in the evolutionary ladder.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan Seeing how you have made an assumption on a baseless platform, I'm guessing you haven't even started climbing the evolutionary ladder. Now run along small mind.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo It doens't matter what kind of god you believe in, even if it's only an " abstract idea" of god. You are as fucked and as dumb as a Christian...
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan What matters is that you find a path that will help you begin the evolution process and place your existence up here with higher forms of life such as myself. Now be a good little monkey and go yank your noodle until you have achieved this step.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo wow, you are pathetic! To know how to use words doesn't mean that your message is meaningful. And, to prove my point, I'm gonna quote some of your dumbass thoughts: "Right now fossil fuel is all we got, and I believe we need to find a way to make it more efficient".ahahah how stupid! Another one: "Nuclear power is one source if it didn't have such evil implications". Wow, you are asleep and have no idea! Fuck it, who cares? Have a nice death, my retarded friend.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan Okay bone head tell me what else we have that can replace our energy use, and don't start with the green shit that we all know is not efficient and expensive. You've proved only one thing. How dumb you are.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo I think you should go on. Keep thinking you are in control of your life. Keep thinking you are the master of your mind. That's the core of our slavery. You are not alone. In fact, you are the rule. That's why our species is at the end of its path. But you will die thinking you own your thoughts. Keep living your life based on that assumption, and let's see where it takes you.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan Anyone who"s evolved enough knows we have limited control. There are many elements that shape our destiny. The churning of an ocean can change a landscape forever, the discovery of breakthrough science by one man can change the course of life forever, so on and so on. Understand we are not slaves we are at the mercy of forces beyond oer control. Life is experience of , discovery, challenges, pleasure etc. You are weak if you think you have more than limited control. Die happy.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo you only think that because you are a slave. The most enslaved are those who consider themselves to be free. You are lost. I can prove to you that you do not own your mind. Nobody is the owner of his mind. The internal dialogue is only familiar because it has been there since we were born, but it only sounds through us. We are on the top of the food chain. I'll tell you a secret of the mind now. there are only 3 personalities they have devised for us, and we all fit in one.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo I'll tell you the 3 types and you tell me where you fit, ok?
People in the first class are the perfect secretaries, assistants, companions. They have a very fluid personality, but their fluidity is not nourishing. They are, however, serviceable, concerned, totally domestic, resourceful within limits, humorous, wellmannered, sweet, delicate. In other words, they are the nicest people one could find, but they have one huge flaw: they can't function alone.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo They are always in need of someone to direct them. With direction, no matter how strained or antagonistic that direction might be, they are stupendous. By themselves, they perish. People in the second class are not nice at all. They are petty, vindictive, envious, jealous, selfcentered. They talk exclusively about themselves and usually demand that people conform to their standards.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo They always take the initiative even though they are not comfortable with it. They are thoroughly ill at ease in every situation and never relax. They are insecure and are never pleased; the more insecure they become the nastier they are. Their fatal flaw is that they would kill to be leaders.
In the third category are people who are neither nice nor nasty. They serve no one, nor do they impose themselves on anyone. Rather they are indifferent.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo They have an exalted idea about themselves derived solely from daydreams and wishful thinking. If they are extraordinary at anything, it is at waiting for things to happen. They are waiting to be discovered and conquered and have a marvelous facility for creating the illusion that they have great things in abeyance, which they always promise to deliver but never do because, in fact, they do not have such
resources.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo i meant we are NOT on the top of the food chain.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan That was my point. We are merely the occupier of our mind. The 3 you have listed are something that can play in the mind of each of us throughout the course of your life until you settle in on the one that best fits you, the individual. No exact science there. Life is a journey that supplies you with opportunity to discover and excel in what limited capacity you have to plot your destiny. I agree we are no where near the top of the food chain. Think universe.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo "We are merely the occupier of our mind". Wrong. When i said we were not on the top of the food chain, this is what i meant. The race that is above is is the one who provided us with the mind. indeed they gave us their mind, and we use it as if it was ourselves. To be free you need to get away from the mind, but you are not even trying. You are institutionalized. That's our situation now. Don't you want to break free from the mind? Or will you settle with this crap?
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo You are talking abut the mind, but you still have to bow down to yours. You are not free, you can't be free because you must obey your mind. They use us like we use chicken. Now, do you want to be free, or are you happy as a slave? Do you want to continue living your life pretending you are happy? There's no possibility for happiness unless you beat your mind. You say life is a journey, but yours haven't even started. And if you continue this way, you'll die without finding the truth.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan I am neither a slave or do I believe I am free. We are all trapped in the field of experience and discovery of our own being.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo "we"? Hey, don't speak for all of us. What you say is correct for most of us. But some of us do not accept that and challenge the mind. however this is something you might never find out...
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo fact: you don't know how to beat the mind, how to get your mind back. as long as you believe you are in control, your life will be chaos.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@viagemixtlan I beg to differ that you or I have to bow down to the mind. With the ability to utilize your limited control you can in fact manipulate the mind to follow the path you create. It is you that is trapped by thinking you are free when in fact your not. Allow yourself to explore the field of discovery and like myself you will find the freedom to enjoy life. Everybody can if they learn to do it. The truth can only be explored to an assumption of what is. Mortal existence a joke.
hawkerdoo 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo "I beg to differ that you or I have to bow down to the mind". You still don't get it. Look, you think you own your mind, right? You don't, because the internal dialogue never stops. If your mind was really yours, you would be able to shut off the internal dialogue as you please. Can you? I'll answer that to you: you simply cannot stop the internal dialogue inside your head. Try it. It's impossible, because the creature running the show keeps the words flowing.
viagemixtlan 9 months ago
@hawkerdoo Try to stop the internal dialogue. You cannot sustain silence, because if you could, you would be free, and you are not. Your internal dialogue will only stop when you die. But then, you won't have any time left to figure out what to do. You will lose the game. Analise your internal dialogue. It's not you talking... Try to silence your mind and get to know the creature that uses you like cattle...
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hawkerdoo 9 months ago
Thank you Jim and Daryl for sitting down (and standing up!) for what you believe in. Talk about grace under fire!
dontbelivewhatyourea 1 year ago
But: what happened after? They were sentenced to jail time? They are serving probation? They paid a fine?
andresmalagreca 1 year ago
Now THIS is a real protest! Not like those Tibetan monks who burned themselves alive because they were facing oppression. Screaming and shouting and celebrity speeches!!! Now thats a protest!
TaqiyyaExposer 1 year ago
State sponsored Gestapo
amcycletrans 1 year ago
Coal kills when and where it is mined, when and where it is burned, and when and where its waste is disposed of. The destruction of public housing is in large a result of coal ash waste used as fill dirt, dumps, and landfills from coal-gasification plants that operated throughout this country between 1880s and 1960s until natural gas put them out of business. Now coal-gasification plants are resurfacing as "clean coal." MY video shows coal waste in public housing.
Rubenleesims 1 year ago
idiots no doubt she lost her job
bluballzzz 1 year ago
There is nothing real about this woman!!!! Cheek implants, chin implants, nose job, and lip injection.....she and the other supporters of such un-AMERICAN practices should be shipped out of this country to live a long , labor filled life in a third world country without such luxuries that the coal from this country affords them!!!! It is apparent she was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, and has never known a hard day of work. Stay out of our neck of the woods, Daryl Hannah!!!
Leden1001 1 year ago
cops have no hear to arrest Daryl Hannah. I would rather turn in my badge.
x11115 1 year ago
@x11115
Why because she is famous she is above the law?
TaqiyyaExposer 1 year ago
Someone please tell me, why so many famous people refuse to age gracefully. They just begin to look like another similar looking puppet on the puppetmasters shelf. I never knew Daryl Hannah was related to Joan Rivers until today.
QuistopherWalkin 1 year ago
Daryl- and all come to listen to Judy Bonds on the 12th in OC,CA go to w.treehuggersball.orgk
1canyonguy 1 year ago
Hilarious. U hear someone say "hey fuck you dayrl,"
therockk 1 year ago
@therockk yeah it sounds like the same guy that shouts, "want u give all your millions to welfare mutherfuckers behind you!"...
FriendTron450 1 year ago
I love how even when she's getting arrested she gets to sit in the front seat of the cop car, lol. <3
jessomglol 1 year ago
God Bless Massy Coal Company
HardTimes304 1 year ago
@HardTimes304 God bless your mothers nasty CUNT
FriendTron450 1 year ago
People say wow and great work. A woman that has no idea how important the coal industry is to Kentucky and West Virgina gets arrested. A woman gets arrested standing up for an issue that she knows nothing about. Oh yes, great work
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions sounds to me u have very little knowledge of what u are talking about as well. great work indeed.
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 If only you knew just how wrong you are with that comment. You have no idea who you are talking to. I would gaurantee that I know more about the issue of Mountain Top Removal than you and Mrs. Hannah put together. Do you know how Darly Hannah and her friends protest about cleaner energy, but when someone trys to do so, they protest. Like the Liquefied Natural gas plant that produced less pollution than gasoline and diesel fuels. And made transport of NG easier. Hannah protested.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions i beg to differ i worked for massy coal all my life. so lets stick to the topic which is mountain top removal not liquefied natural gas.
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 Actually, I was backing up my point. There was supposed to be a LNG plant built 20 miles off the coast of Malibu. The plant would compress natural gas to make the storage and transport of NG more easy and efficent. Hannah and her friends protested the building of the plant claiming that it would disturb the ecology of the ocean. Hannah claims to be an activist of more efficient ways of doing things but she protest when people try to find ways of doing just that.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions so now were talking about NG and in case you didn't get the memo there is cleaner more efficient forms of energy. so really i think that in 1984 u paid your hard earned $2.50 to go see Splash you hated it felt like you had been ripped and just hate Daryl Hannah but dont forget about Ron Howard or Tom Hanks or Eugene Levy...
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 There you go with your pointless assumptions again. Once again, wrong. In 1984 I was 5 and I have nothing against Hannah. I know all about efficient forms of energy? Geothermal etc. I feel could feel up this entire page talking about all of the new technolgies that are dealing with energy. Even technologies that include coal. For example Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle technology which converts coal from a solid to gaseous state. Which can be used to make electricity.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions cool. but i think that we have got to get away from coal all together not just a ruse to make it seem green. like gasoline with ethanol. noticed how that just about all gasoline u buy now is made up of 10% ethanol yet we are still hooked on gasoline and paying gasoline prices. it has to be viable alternative. not just lip service.
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 I agree to a point. We need to do what is going to help our enviornment for future generations. Many people do not know however, how the coal companies are trying to find better ways of doing things. A company like Consol is working on a project to store C0 2 emssions underground eliminating the amount that is released into the atmosphere. As far as the Issue of MTR. I'm not saying it's right. I just feel sorry for the men that will end up losing their jobs because of shut downs.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 I feel sorry for the men that can't work because of delayed permits. I hate to see any man that has a family to take care of lose his job. I guess that is why I take up for MTR. If there was a way for MTR to end but the miners could keep working then that would be great. That's all I'm saying. And sorry about the comment from before. Now this is the kind of discussion that I'm talking about.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions i dont know what is wrong with me. must be the early morning hour but i think that we agree on a couple of things. a healthy environment for future generations and the fact that you cant stop talking about how cool coal is. u a shareholder??
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 You call this a debate? I thought we were going to have a reasonable discussion but you only want to make pointless assumptions. Like this brilliant brain buster about how I hate Daryl Hannah about some movie I have never seen. The point that I made about Hannah was part of my discussion and is relevant. Since you can't make a valid point and only can make an assumption then you are wasting my time.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions now who is assuming i never thought this was a debate. if i thought this was a debate i would have already schooled your ass. this was just me fucking with you. have a great morning...or not.
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@estrangeddimensions you want to act like that once the mountain top is removed it can just be put back like it was found...to true
FriendTron450 1 year ago
@FriendTron450 No, actually I don't feel that way. Your assumptions are wrong. Once a mountain top is removed, it will never be the same. All of the replanted trees and grass will never return a mountain to what it was, only a portion of what it was. But never like it was found. I am not going to sit here and preach the " now the mountain is flat and more usuable" speech. That is so played out. No, I don't think that a mountain can be put back the way it was. Your comment........so false.
estrangeddimensions 1 year ago
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@estrangeddimensions hey asshole if your gonna reply to my comments try and read them first. that is how this works. i actually said,"once the mountain top is removed it cannot be put back as it was found."
FriendTron450 1 year ago
They braved throngs of crazed ignorant hillbillies good on her and Hansen.
LarkaSojourn 1 year ago
Why were people arrested?
bapyou 1 year ago
Splash! you´re under arrest haha
Prettyshandra8 1 year ago
God bless America!
keithmlarsen 1 year ago
don´t u dare to insult America!
Prettyshandra8 1 year ago
I didn't- I'm just glad that people have the right to have an opinion- even a stupid one-
keithmlarsen 1 year ago
Is it me or has some stripmined Daryl......she looks like shit
datamata 2 years ago
Daryl, you were in clan of the cave bear. Is that where you'd like us to evolve too? We need coal.
eng1225 2 years ago
@eng1225 What happens when there's no more coal left to depend on? It's inevitable.
InnocentNeverLast 1 year ago
ok Sorry totally off subject, but WVA SHP has got to have the ugliest damn uniforms ever.
linkmand 2 years ago
It's Bush's fault!
rkoliver1 2 years ago
And there are the brainwashed Nazi's "protecting and serving" the people from Dangerous Daryl an Big Bad James.
One day people are going to start killing those brainwashed asshole, Nazi's. It'll be a great new beginning for Americastan.
blammcans 2 years ago 3
she is one ugly whore she has no more movies and this is her only way to get on tv
coalminer24605 2 years ago
Somebody please tell me that they are going to keep her in jail as well as her ASSociates.
1099951801 2 years ago
Trust me, minium wage is better than no wage. And please tell me why the majority of coal towns are poverty stricken and practially ghost towns? Why do coal towns have such a high rate of illness compared to towns without coal industry? Travel to Harlen Co. KY and look at what the coal industry has done for that place. Once the easy coal was gone, so were the jobs it provided. And what was left? It will happen again to miners. What will they do then.
YarrowElfwind 2 years ago
But if your so worried about what the miners will do, then why stop what way they make money now? Also, travel to anywhere along the Monongahela River from Pgh. down. Old steel boomtowns, depressed and run down. It's not just coal-such is the scourage of industrialism.But, without it, we would be another 3rd world country.This is the foundation of a Capitalistic Society, one with freedom.
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
I came from the Pgh area. For the last 20yrs.crime and poverty shot through the roof.One could have argued tourism there.Didn't work. Now we buy steel from China-I am glad mining jobs are here to stay, it will never change, because THAT is Capitalism. I can only suggest that if it bothers you so, perhaps you'd feel better about life living in a mudhut in the jungle somewhere-I won't hold my breath waiting for you to go. Remember, those places don't embrace freeedom of speech-either.
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
@HelloFelonKitty Once again-What will you do when coal is gone?
InnocentNeverLast 1 year ago
What the human species has done since the beginning of its existance-adapt. I find it curious that people credit mere humans with the ability to 'destroy Mother Earth" while simultaneously questioning "how ever will humans SURVIVE?" once coal reserves have been used up.This is why many enviros lose credibility:the constant changing of core beliefs and arguments from minute to minute,the presentation of the thought behind the argument is just too flawed.
HelloFelonKitty 1 year ago
And once the damage is far beyond what it is now and the coal is gone what do you expect the ppl to do then when what lil jobs in the coaling is gone are suppose to do Without the mountians it will be barren hills and poisioned water how will any tourism or bottling companies even think about coming in then i am from SE Ky I love that place and the last time I was there I was overcome was a sense of depression over what I was seeing. And ppl still were poor with no jobs avalible to them at all
YarrowElfwind 2 years ago
Bloody Hippies, go and have a music festival or something, you bloody idiots, lock em all up I say
leesmith197700 2 years ago
And to think that blowing up the mountains is called progress. If you believe this is wrong, don't give your opinion through the kitchen window, get out there and do something.
If only we would live by this man's view: "Man did not weave the web of life-he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." - Native American Chief Seattle.
schererart 2 years ago 6
@schererart His name was Sealth not Seattle.
BryanLeeDennis 5 months ago
@BryanLeeDennis He was known as both from what I've read. Perhaps later he was referred toSeattle..;)
schererart 5 months ago
It must be nice to be wealthy enough to not only not care if you are arrested, but to also not care about wanting to take away people's livlihoods. Because you CAN go back to your nice home in California, once an area becomes depressed and crime goes through the roof, due to a state's inhabitants losing all of their jobs.
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
you have been fooled into believing by those big uncaring companies that this is appalachias only economic possiblity. They are posioning the water and soil causing devestating illness' like cancer. Do research, learn more about other options for power. if we clean up our water, water bottling companies could come in, appalacia is beautiful place, tourism industry could be huge, Appalacia has hella lot more to offer than a dying out fuel source.Coal is running out, what will be left for industry
YarrowElfwind 2 years ago
@YarrowElfwind -Tourism jobs?! Get out of town! At what? 8bucks an hour-try mining engineering-60K to start. Water bottling factory jobs-minimum wage-yay.You have been fooled into believing that a thing called "reclaimation" does not exist. Do you know what standards the industry is held up to? You can no longer change ANY mountain contour w/o putting it back, the way it would be AND resupplying all the vegetation. But, yeah, minimum wage service jobs would be much better-right?
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
And please tell me how they can put back entire mountians that have been practically leveled out. Over 500 mountians have been leveled across the Virginas, Kentucky and Tennessee. The beauty that draws tourism is disappearing. Do you think Gatlinburg,Tn would be as beautiful and have the tourism it does if the mountians there were lvl'd? No. And you never even mentioned the deathly affects that the industry is having on the water and air.
YarrowElfwind 2 years ago
Yes, I can tell you. There are very specific sets of equations to figure out the estimated natural contour of the land. Now, I know you'd like to believe that they "level" the mountains and dump them into the drinking water, but it is not so. The mountains are replaced, according to very specific equations that factor in everything when rebuilding. It's called the Approximated Estimated Countour.
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
@YarrowElfwind and, BTW, there is absolutely nothing stopping the tourism industry as it exists here today. So, coal's running out, tourism already exists, so what's the problem then? I guess all the miners supporting their families w/a good wage and benefits should just quit now, to become housekeepers and waitstaff, cooks, and laundry cleaners. ANd bottle H2O, cross their fingers and hope they break even!
HelloFelonKitty 2 years ago
I live in a country where we in 2005 had 28,5% our power coming from CO2 neutral sources... Think of the jobs that could be created by building for an example windmills... The coal mine workes could get new jobs there!
versaceboy5 2 years ago 2
The actress and all other outsiders that do not have to depend on these coal mining jobs like TENS OF THOUSANDS in West Virginia do, need to leave us alone, and find a way to do away with all the smog back in California. If you want to "save something", how about a miner's job.
WV24985 2 years ago
hansen:
another one who cant make it in the real world. I AM making it in the real world as an animal scientist. It is totally false that animal agriculture is causing global warming. Please read my sidebar in my channel.
If you think that having an actress to 'prove' what you have to say is credible..............But I suppose that would hurt your contributions coming in.
TheRancherman61 2 years ago
She stood for what she believed in. Great work, Daryl! I am with you a million percent!
God bless you!
JennyferJ99 2 years ago 10
lol
SuperColeman88 2 years ago
ahh the essence of ignorance never seizes to amaze me
seniortwothousand9 2 years ago
WOW!!!! That Daryl Hannah, shes a REAL woman...
shaq786 2 years ago 5
Youre deflecting. My point is that you claim to care about the environment so much that you use words like rape to define the environmental effects of MTR. Yet if a stream is affected or a valley is filled for other purposes such as road building, it's OK. You are a hypocrite plain and simple. Blow the top off of a mountain for resource and reclaim it so that in 10 years it's beginning to reestablish is bad. Blow the top off a mountain and drop a Wal-Mart, parking lot or wind farm in it's OK.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
I've seen a lot of large buildings, Wal-Mart and otherwise built in this state, and I've never seen them blow up a mountain to build one. All the roads I see that cross streams have drainage tunnels, they don't cover up entire streams. "A utility-scale wind plant will require about 60 acres per megawatt of installed capacity. However, only 5% (3 acres) or less of this area is actually occupied by turbines, access roads, and other equipment--95% remains free for other compatible uses"
zappamannn 2 years ago
So your comparison doesn't hold up, sure there are impact of development all over the state, I am not against development. MTR is a widespread practice that is responsible for the destruction of 2000 miles of streams and over 500 mountains. All this when underground mining has served us well for over 200 years. And it's all because of profit, most of which goes out of state. leaving WV poor, toxic and scarred.
zappamannn 2 years ago
They don't bulldoze the rock you see exposed where they cut out sections of mountains to drop a Wal-mart, they use explosives. Many shopping centers here are on old MTR jobs. They also use explosives to cut though the middle of mountains for roads. But thats OK, right? I assure you the drainage from these roads and parking lots have much more toxic runoff than any MTR. You also seem to miss my point that you can't replant a parking lot but you can an MTR site.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
I don't know of any parking lots that they've blown up hundreds of feet of mountain to build.
zappamannn 2 years ago
Standard enviro propaganda. Where are these 500 mountains? I don't deny the number just the fact that they are left barren moonscapes. Reclamation works well. Reclamation includes the streams where water is engineer to be diverted. You just can't get rid of a stream. WV miners are paid, WV taxes are paid. The water runoff from MTR is monitored and treated unlike the underground mines that are not. Your poor, toxic and scarred comment is a joke. Educate yourself. Dont repeat what your told.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
I would trade a hundred underdrain systems and drainage ditches for one authentic West Virginia stream. Valleys are gone forever. Approximate original contour is a joke. hydroseed sucks. I've seen reclaims, ones that have had twenty plus years to recover, no one will ever convince me that that is better than real West Virginia wilderness. I'm sorry.
zappamannn 2 years ago
John Amos generates 1000 MW in the same amount of are wind can generate 1mw. If your 3 acres per turbine is clearcut and leveled, that 3000 acres of destroyed ecosystem to match John Amos. Using your statistic, the other infrastucture and turbines would affect 60,000 acres to achive one John Amos. Thats more than 4 times the total permitted area of Kayford and Williams mountians. if the wind only blows 25% of the time thats 1/4 million acres(16 Kayfords) of disturbed land to replace 1 John Amos
bigfunwv 2 years ago
That's the great thing about wind. Clear cutting acreage for turbines still allows the ecosystem to operate around the site, rather than tearing up the whole mountain... and after the coal is gone, the wing keeps on giving.
zappamannn 2 years ago
*wind*
zappamannn 2 years ago
Wind is a long term investment. Long after the coal from Kayford is burned and gone, wind will continue to give energy potential. Of course it's easier and cheaper to surface mine right now. But in the long term wind will produce much more energy than coal, because it is not a finite energy source. So your numbers may check out right now, (I'll take your word for it) Over decades and generations, wind will produce more energy potential than coal.
zappamannn 2 years ago
Youre still repeating what you've heard. AOC is law, regulated to the hilt. If AOC didn't follow the law, CRMW, OVEC, Sierra club and so on would all have law suits pending. Hydroseed is temporary until the original ecosystem or West Virginia Wilderness reestablishes. Plus MTR reclamation is currently reintroducing the American chestnut in WV. I should have said 20 yrs+ but post-SMCRA. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Learn for yourself.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
Just because something is legal doesn't mean I have to agree with it. AOC is a joke. Carter himself admitted that the SMCRA is a watered down bill full of loopholes. I have seen multiple strip mine reclaims, they might look good from a distance, but walking around, they are far from beautiful, nothing like WV wilderness.
It is my opinion that MTR is reckless and irresponsible. And reclaiming is the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig. That is my opinion.
zappamannn 2 years ago
Wind power will not have the desired impacts to have any significant effect on an overall energy solution. I completely agree that coal has a total negative impact on the environment, and upon global heating.
I for one, believe that the scare mongering on nuclear has been a huge burden upon the turth. Nuclear is the only answer to clean energy, that can have significiant impact. France obtains 80% of its energy for nukes. They are not afraid.
I write six miles from Three Mile Island.
followthefleet1 2 years ago
no shes a has been with a bunch of extremest idiots. youre going to have to better than this people. WE WILL FIGHT TO THE END FOR OUR COAL-FAMLIES-AND MOUNTAINS. dont like it hit the bricks.
philbusa 2 years ago
You're fighting for the mountains... really?
zappamannn 2 years ago
Daryl you are a legend and a queen
neonselleri 2 years ago 2
Lock the crazy tree huggers up and let our men get back to work. If you don't like MTR Go back to california and leave us be.
sarahlmarcum 2 years ago
Wondering where the material will go if they decapitete mountains to install wind turbines?....oh that's right...it'll have to go "in a valley fill". All those for wind power, and against mountaintop removal, are really sticking their foot in their mouth. The removal of the mountaintop will happen regardless of whether we are doing it for cheaper coal, or windmills.
JeffFurrowCountry 2 years ago
This is a genius comment. Except I don't think you have to decapitate a mountain to put in a windmill... I think that's the point.
zappamannn 2 years ago
They bulldoze large level areas including trees to install windmills. You don't think they just slap them up on a mountain and turn them on do you? They bulldoze large roads to haul equipment and cut any trees that get in the way. I hate to tell you what they do to the material they bulldoze (valley fill to put more windmills on) but it's nowhere near as regulated as surface mining. There are Pros and Cons to both MTR and windmills. It's hypocrisy to focus on the cons of one and not the other.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
Let's see, they clear some trees for one energy source and the turn the entire mountain inside out for the other.
Don't even try to compare the invasiveness of the two practices... the comparison is laughable.
zappamannn 2 years ago
I love how you worded that. Typical Enviro tactic. For wind power they "clear some trees" and any other vegetation and never allow it to regrow as long as the windmills turn. Lets not forget they remove the top of mountains to create a level base for windmill construction demolishing ecosystems that are not allowed to return. MTR "turns mountains inside out" and then 80% are replanted and the natural ecosystem is encouraged to reestablish. Your hypocricy is laughable.
bigfunwv 2 years ago
If you think Mountain rape mining is less environmentally invasive than windmills, considering damage to the mountain, destruction of valleys and streams,overall carbon footprint and water pollution... you are either full of shit, delusional, or just plain an idiot. I would happily sacrifice some trees to keep a mountain.
zappamannn 2 years ago
Other than protest MTR, which you have proven to be very hypocritical about, what else might you do for the environment? You'd cut down trees which absorb CO2 and thwart AGW but not a mountain that has been eroded over 300 million years? You are so blinded by what you are fed you only see one, very much distorted side. Drink any Kool-Aid recently?
bigfunwv 2 years ago
The Truth about MTR:
"Of all the environmental problems caused by mountaintop projects — decapitated peaks, deforestation, the significant carbon footprint — scientists have found that valley fills do the most damage because they destroy headwater streams and surrounding forests, which are crucial to the workings of mountain ecosystems."
tinyurl[dot]com/lmt3th
zappamannn 2 years ago
Attention people of the world! Stop believing the false accusations of these economic terrorists! Basically everything they say has been proven false time & time again. I take this personal. I can't stand to be lied on. I saw a few days ago where a group of scientists proved the global warming theory wrong and showed where the earth has actually cooled, and Obama shut them and forbids them to go public with it. Some people just don't want to own up that they were wrong about it all along.
crawl73 2 years ago
Attention, attention, attention.That's all she was doing it for.Not for the better of mankind. She had to boost her PR. Where was she when half of WV was covered in water and hundreds of thousands lost their homes to flooding? Hey Daryl, weren't you aware that the people sitting around you have been living off of a dead miner's check for years! Get real!
samantha92505 2 years ago
Go Daryl!
callmeyang 2 years ago 3
Don't protest a Massey mine. What they are doing is perfectly legal. If you have a problem go to the steps of the whitehouse. Coal keeps the lights on. Live with it or get out.
eng1225 2 years ago
Protesting is free speech. It's called the first amendment.
Here watch...
~MASSEY SUCKS!~
See how that works?
If you don't like it... leave the U.S.!
zappamannn 2 years ago
Then why were they arested you idiot.
eng1225 2 years ago
"Congress shall make no law respectingthe right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition" -U.S. Constitution... you should read it.
zappamannn 2 years ago
There were charged with obstructing officers and impeding traffic, they sat down in the road with the intention of being arrested.
They are raising awareness because most of the country has no idea what you people are doing to our state.
zappamannn 2 years ago 2
I never cease to be appalled by the hate-filled reactionary garbage that passes for opinion on youtube.
Some of these comments are beyond the pale. If you said half of those things to someone face to face you'd probably lose an eye or something.
The sexist abuse directed at Daryl Hannah by some of the fascists and conspiracy nuts on here is truly vile.
At the least she is doing something she cares about, there used to be a time when people had respect for other people's opinions.
asubjectiveopinion 2 years ago 4
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ciaovarixrivet 2 years ago
im sorry to ask but did she get anything out of this jail time wise?
natethegreat186 2 years ago
Daryl's story in Huffington Post:
"Tragically but predictably in coal river valley, the children are often sick with headaches and asthma, and among the 200 students and teachers at Marsh Fork elementary school cancer rates are higher than average.
Three teachers have died from cancer and one is struggling with the disease now.
In 2005 one student died from ovarian cancer at age seventeen and another is still battling ovarian cancer. "
tinyurl[dot]com/mj2kb4
zappamannn 2 years ago
Wow, ignorant people are disgusting! How many insults can be heard on this video! Yes, Ms. Hannah has money, but worked hard for every penny, BTW, that is hurting anyone, they are just trying to help, for godsakes! Stop acting like ignorant people, we should be thankful for what Daryl is doing and for this group of people who are doing this protest!
roch202020 2 years ago 3
Agreed!! She´s trying to do something nice for this planet, she has to take a lot of crap from ignorant people who just knows how to critisize and wrigth insults on the internet. Go for it Drayl and God Bless you!!!
VanishaVampire6 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
piss on this publicity whore... they should have shot her, or put the dogs on her...
jprakes 2 years ago
misogyny, fascism
FantabulousNoise 2 years ago 2
Shoot protesters? You should move to Iran... that's how they do things.
The United States was founded on the right of citizens to protest.
you are un-American.
God bless the U.S.A....
Happy Independence Day.
zappamannn 2 years ago 8
arrest a leading climate scientist ?
james hansen is trying to tell everyone that continued burning of fossil fuels including coal continues to "boil the planet"-- just a few more degrees of temperature spells the end of the world and civilization as we know it--- you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out-- thanks Daryl, James, and Ken for your efforts to educate the masses--
as a fellow scientist, i say--
"hey scotty, beam me up, there is no intelligent life down here
ballroomstyle 2 years ago 6
Daryl rocks!
SoftWolfTread 2 years ago 2
Go for it!!! We need to save this earth for the destuction caused for GREED!!! God bless Daryl and these amazing awere people!!
VanishaVampire6 2 years ago
well we all know she look super in jumpsuit this time Orange Jumpsuit , not denim blue Jumpsuit that she like.
glhhh 2 years ago
and to grumpy, its 2009, not 1949 when we didnt have the knowledge of cleaner resources. i just don't understand why you people hate the earth so much, no regard for your own homeland? and what the hell is that comment about being raised by a real man? again we are in the year 2009, not clan of the cave bear. for you to i say : ignorance-1, intelligence-0. oh how sad.
luckybitz13 2 years ago 4
Are the insults necessary?
morpDprime 2 years ago
i don't think they are insults, just facts and my own personal views. MTR is a poor excuse for a job. i think everyone on here pro or against it knows it is destroying the land, its just a matter of owning up to it and having the guts and integrity to change.
luckybitz13 2 years ago 3
hey surface miner, grow up, what are ya gonna "kick some ass" to make people stop protesting? good luck. non violent gatherings will continue, clearly these people care about the earth and your state, and the future of your children. if you had half a brain perhaps you would think to do the same, but instead you choose to react like the missing link. tisk tisk. ignorance-1, humanity-0
luckybitz13 2 years ago
Wish I could have been there to protest Big Coal!
uthafay 2 years ago 2
II live in the West Virginia. What they do to these beautiful mountains and the flooding and other problems caused by MTR should be regulated, tress should be planted instead of the weed mix they put on the sites and call it reclamation. Big Coal has the money to do what is needed, but they take advantage of us. The CEO has a home on a hillside overlooking us, has a heated driveway and he said that he wanted it there to look down on all of us idiots. I believe that. What can we do?
uthafay 2 years ago
No wonder you call yourself an idiot he has no heated driveway and you spell it trees.
RamitNyou 2 years ago
Nice handle ramitnyou. I know how to spell trees, sorry this offended you. I live in the middle of this area, and if you are from this area YOU KNOW what is really happening. LOOK OUTSIDE! It's not about Hannah, it's about destruction, long term, MTR is something you can't fix overnight. What do you think causes the flooding? You are stupid.
uthafay 2 years ago
It took millions of years to create our beautiful, ancient mountains and only seconds to destroy. Once destroyed, we'll never have them back. The people responsible for this should be forced to live in these lifeless craters they're creating.
eastwood203 2 years ago
HOW THE HELL DID I KNOW THIS WAS NOT GOING ON DAMN I NEED TO CHECK WHATS GOING ON.....i only live in Charleston could of been there DAMN!
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Magnuspictor79 2 years ago
And the jacket???
lifeplexer1 2 years ago
That's not her....
spareaxe 2 years ago
No. That was her. If was on our local news.
legendarylarry 2 years ago
Does anyone know where I could get a jacket like hers?????
lifeplexer1 2 years ago
Mining has not really advanced much. Most of this stuff could be done with robotics today without the need to take whole mountains down. The problem is the mining companies do not want to spend the money. If it was not for laws protecting miners these companies wouldn't even supply hard hats.
VisionQuest2012 2 years ago
Thanks for posting