Good performance. Are you sure the harpsichord is out of tune? To my ears it sounds like it's in a different temperament rather than being out of tune.
yes! As the pianoforte and the fortepiano did not exist till after Bach's death playing Bach on the piano is a bit like translating Shakespeare in to plattdeutsch/glaswegian/southcarolina dialect. It can be done but should not!
Actually, Bartolomeo Cristófori invented the pianoforte in 1709. In 1732, Lodovico Giustini published twelve piano sonatas under the name "Sonate da cimbalo di piano e forte detto volgarmente di martelletti". And in 1747, J.S. Bach aprobed Gottfried Silbermann's pianos, after the solutions that he proposed. And he also beacame a salesman agent of Silbermann's pianos. Obviously barroque music is better with harpichord, but how many people do you know can afford a harspichord?
In truth, a harpsichord costs maybe a bit more than a grand piano. A 3-manual electronic organ costs about the same as a piano.
I play on a piano since I still live at home..but once I get some money and live on my own, I'll proly commission for a 2-manual French harpsichord (like that one) to be built for myself. (Try to see if I can make a few Mozarts, lol)
That's in Europe or in the USA, but here in Argentina there are only a few harspichords in big theatres and museums (I only had seen two in my life). Even pianos are expensive here. And grand pianos are not everywhere: the most of the music centres have vertical pianos, or electronic pianos. If you're lucky, you'll find a baby grand. Grand pianos are only in music halls. I really would like to have a harspichord, or even a real piano!
I don't think the piano is a profane instrument, but I agree with you when you say it's common. The harspichord Is cultured because it's sound represents an era, but the pianoforte was developed by Cristófori when he was looking for a more complex sound. If one person wants to play barroque music with a piano or any other instrument, it won't be wrong. Obviously, it will be better with a harspichord or an organ, but not everybody can afford one of that instruments.
the nice thing is that a keyboard is a keyboard. since pianos are more common, its perfectly possible to learn on one and then play on any other keyboard instrument as you see fit.
Yes, the keyboards are similar, one can learn where the notes are. Most keyboardists learn on a Piano and later progress to Organ and/or Harpsichord.
Playing a Harpsichord for the 1st time after learning on a Piano can be very revealing (the sustain Pedal covers a multitude of sins).
The technique harpsichord is different; you'll discover muscles you didn't know existed. The Harpsichord requires more from the player, you might be surprised how much "touch" is involved.
Remember - Bach wrote Die Kunst der Fuge as a diversion for himself: there does not seem to be a 'correct' instrument for the work, and there are moments within that are physically 'unplayable': harpsichord and organ recordings normally have the odd note 'dubbed', for that very reason...
Listen to Angela Hewitt play anything by Bach: she has committed all of his keyboard music to memory, and has recorded all of it. You will place Glenn Gould just beneath Hewitt, and all of the others come well after her.
wow he's better than anyone i know! it's really though... i know .. i play saxophone piano and clarinet.. it becomes disturbing when u have to play because sometimes u mix up the fingers.
The harpsichord is actually not a half step flat. It is in baroque tuning - as many harpsichords are - where A = 415 rather than 440. That being said, it is rather out of tune.
In the baroque, harpsichords were usually 415 or 390. Today, people make harpsichord on 415 with transpositer, so you can change it on 440 (modern intonation)
Don't get too hung up on the tempo comments. It's not not too slow. Also the tuning is not necessarily your fault but make sure you have someone look it over before your next recording.
I'm very impressed. Though I've always enjoyed this certain fugue to be played faster, I understand how enormously hard it is. I commend you for your great work!!!
that was exceptional! I'm learning Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in A minor I think BWV 904. Wish I had access to a harpsichord! looks alot harder than a standard upright. keep up the good work. :)
This young man has such a talent about which I could only dream of possessing. I have been listening to Bach for ages...tried my hand at performance...and threw my hands up in frustration to become just a listener.
Great performance; this is one of my favourite contrapuncti from the Art of Fugue (along with XI and the final incomplete fugue), and you certainly have done justice. I do think the last chord could have been rolled, but nonetheless it is a very good performance, and a wonderful sounding harpsichord (the tuning does not bother me at all). Bravo!
He's in tune; the thing is is that his A is tuned to 415KHz, thus pushing all the other notes down what appears to be a half step as well (a "true" half step from our standard A=440KHz is something around 415.836KHz or something). He may also be using a different temperament, which is why the two Ds in the octaval jump do not sound similar.
Yes, you're right about the A=415. However, the instrument really is out of tune. At the time of recording, this harpsichord had not been tuned in quite a while, which explains the octave leap sounding a bit off!
All tuning systems have justly tuned octaves. In fact, the point of tempered tuning is to keep the octave just after going through the circle of fifths.
If you were to temper the octave, then you couldn't repeat any pitch in different registers, which defeats the purpose of this fugue's delicious invertible counterpoint.
Whatever, it still sounds like an exotic, ancient temperament. And it's still played well.
Heck...I cannot abide critics...if I could sit down and churn out one bar of chopsticks on a keyboard...I would have an apoplectic fit of joy...bravo...
You're Typewriting.Simply playing with your fingers metronomically and listening to the ensuing structure is about 1/10th of a Baroque performers task.Are We on a Diet?
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I found it as notes and then i made it with a music notation program
Enlightenment82 1 week ago
BEautifull BAch and harpsichord and music!
quesadiya 4 months ago 2
J.S. Bach is the greatest musician that humanity ever produced. Period. You play beautifully, sir. Thanks for posting.
Snagglefratz 5 months ago
@Snagglefratz I love J.S. Bach very very very much and in my opinion He is one of the best composers ever but I think L.V. Beethoven is not less!
iguarni 4 weeks ago
I wonder if any pianist has even sat down at a harpsichord and said "Where's the pedals!" ;D
EmilyRules971 5 months ago
Art of Fugue, Unfinished Fugue's ending:
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mtv565 6 months ago
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Soli Deo Gloria
PEPEDEBARRO 6 months ago
@meinerHeld read Psalms 82 (most notable verse 6), we are Gods but our source of strength comes from the Most High.
mgreer2 8 months ago 3
@mgreer2
so your source of strength comes from me? cause i'm pretty baked.
Also, tis is incredible
aeneas123 8 months ago
Arnold Schwarzenegger!! :O
MarSwanlake 9 months ago
Bach IS fugue!
SVAFnemesis 9 months ago
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meinerHeld 10 months ago
Thank For Uploading! Well Done!
alexito1954 11 months ago
Beautiful plain interpretation of that amazing fugue!
Gatchoup 1 year ago
Apart from that little hiccup around 2:08, it was very well done!
thenryarsnal 1 year ago
Very well played. Congratulations!!!
Nikolausius 1 year ago
The master of the fugue
santiagoblues 1 year ago
Exquisite!
bbbbmer 1 year ago
Wonderful performance. Congratulations! A timeless masterpiece played very well.
iguarni 1 year ago
confuguing!
marmaladeskyes 1 year ago
That makes me want to play Castlevania
frenchguyfromfrance2 1 year ago 3
I'm so obsessed with your interpretation of this piece...
I've listened to it like 100 times.
Even if the harpsichord id a little bit off-key, I love it so much.
Thank you for such a sublime interpretation.
hopelesslyinlovedu 1 year ago 2
The performance is flawless.. the sound sucks
Damun9 1 year ago
Leipzig Dresden Berlin Munich Everybody talk about Bach Music!
trh2130 1 year ago
@trh2130 Of course they would, Bach is a sensation!
hl2alyx 1 year ago
very gooooood...!!!!
levibyte 1 year ago
Great
rejrockmetal 1 year ago
talent!
TheNolb 1 year ago
excellent
consci3ntia 1 year ago
Master
MaghoxFr 2 years ago
Excellent! Bravo!
Worldofwheelz 2 years ago
Right on! - as they used to say. :-)
ldixon11 2 years ago
RYTEON3 very very nice performance. five stars and I have subscribed....
jpstenino 2 years ago
bach is sitting on a sky and is smilleying
googlekopfkind 2 years ago
bravo bien jouer
darkness666ify 2 years ago
that was so awsome
ArrenZamari 2 years ago
tyrone chan 4 prez
HHFOV 2 years ago 2
Good performance. Are you sure the harpsichord is out of tune? To my ears it sounds like it's in a different temperament rather than being out of tune.
MusicaRicercata 2 years ago 3
Very good job!
Lassann 2 years ago
This is my one of my favorite fugues out of the whole Art of Fugue.
anyways589 2 years ago 4
wow i so want that harpsichord!
Jtking3000 2 years ago
Bach is king of Fugue!
eeektavius 2 years ago 20
*God of Fugue
twiddle7125 2 years ago 21
@twiddle7125 Bach is King of Music
manilio91 9 months ago
@twiddle7125 Bach would not approve of being called God. To God only be the glory! Bach is amazing.
meinerHeld 9 months ago
@meinerHeld It's a good thing that he's dead otherwise he'd be cross with me for calling him God then isn't it?
twiddle7125 9 months ago
@twiddle7125 alpha and omega of fugue.
MISFITROBBY138 4 months ago
fantastic playing. the technique sounds great!
10084886 2 years ago 4
Fanstastic. Just needs a little tune
PinanoManGulbransen 2 years ago 2
I want that instrument ;D
zyx1236 2 years ago 6
i took a moroney class in this classroom around 4-5 years ago .. can't believe it's been that long~ :D
rtsing 2 years ago
On my boxes this video gives a very typical sound. Is this really a harpsichord?
GerardvanR 2 years ago
wow!!! super!!! :)
naturgreendetox 2 years ago 2
Hmm the sound is very nice, my friend!
dopemunky 2 years ago 2
Damn.. I love the harpsichord sound :)
ruiolas 2 years ago
Just a bit flat on the harpsichord, No big deal...
merlinforever 2 years ago
Great!!
morekew 2 years ago
BELLEZA
abrazo
vilma
vilmavargasrobles 2 years ago
Tremendo!!
muchas gracias
elcodigo 2 years ago
That was flat out awesome.
eugenevez 2 years ago
Hello, again, ryteon. This is still a marvel...I hope that things are well.
Caxton1942 2 years ago
Call me a purist but baroque music should not be played on the piano. Baroque music is intellectual so the description is apt.
RichardIIfan 2 years ago
I think barroque music can be played on piano or any instrument you want, but I think the harspichord will ever be the best instrument for this.
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
As weird as it sounds though, I think the Piano can easily rival the Harpsichord with the Goldberg Variations aria
darkshadyfigure 2 years ago
The piano is a profane and common instrument. The harpsichord is cultured and superior in every way. The organ of course, is the King of Instruments.
requiemaeturnum 2 years ago
yes! As the pianoforte and the fortepiano did not exist till after Bach's death playing Bach on the piano is a bit like translating Shakespeare in to plattdeutsch/glaswegian/southcarolina dialect. It can be done but should not!
RichardIIfan 2 years ago
Actually, Bartolomeo Cristófori invented the pianoforte in 1709. In 1732, Lodovico Giustini published twelve piano sonatas under the name "Sonate da cimbalo di piano e forte detto volgarmente di martelletti". And in 1747, J.S. Bach aprobed Gottfried Silbermann's pianos, after the solutions that he proposed. And he also beacame a salesman agent of Silbermann's pianos. Obviously barroque music is better with harpichord, but how many people do you know can afford a harspichord?
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago 2
In truth, a harpsichord costs maybe a bit more than a grand piano. A 3-manual electronic organ costs about the same as a piano.
I play on a piano since I still live at home..but once I get some money and live on my own, I'll proly commission for a 2-manual French harpsichord (like that one) to be built for myself. (Try to see if I can make a few Mozarts, lol)
requiemaeturnum 2 years ago
That's in Europe or in the USA, but here in Argentina there are only a few harspichords in big theatres and museums (I only had seen two in my life). Even pianos are expensive here. And grand pianos are not everywhere: the most of the music centres have vertical pianos, or electronic pianos. If you're lucky, you'll find a baby grand. Grand pianos are only in music halls. I really would like to have a harspichord, or even a real piano!
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
yo no pienso morir sin adquirir uno, estoy buscando alguien que me lo fabrique, pero es imposible en este pais de m...
si fueramos alemanes ya tendriamos uno, jajaja
Saludos colega
tommyIglesias 2 years ago 2
tequiemaeturnum
jpstenino 2 years ago
I don't think the piano is a profane instrument, but I agree with you when you say it's common. The harspichord Is cultured because it's sound represents an era, but the pianoforte was developed by Cristófori when he was looking for a more complex sound. If one person wants to play barroque music with a piano or any other instrument, it won't be wrong. Obviously, it will be better with a harspichord or an organ, but not everybody can afford one of that instruments.
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago 2
the nice thing is that a keyboard is a keyboard. since pianos are more common, its perfectly possible to learn on one and then play on any other keyboard instrument as you see fit.
nintendowns 2 years ago
Of course! That's what I try to do!
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
thats right. but than its in most time only tchnically the same...harpsichord is a total different instrument to make the real music!!!
Lutzenberger 2 years ago
Yes, the keyboards are similar, one can learn where the notes are. Most keyboardists learn on a Piano and later progress to Organ and/or Harpsichord.
Playing a Harpsichord for the 1st time after learning on a Piano can be very revealing (the sustain Pedal covers a multitude of sins).
The technique harpsichord is different; you'll discover muscles you didn't know existed. The Harpsichord requires more from the player, you might be surprised how much "touch" is involved.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
Wow, very well played! =)
MistaMasta12 2 years ago
Remember - Bach wrote Die Kunst der Fuge as a diversion for himself: there does not seem to be a 'correct' instrument for the work, and there are moments within that are physically 'unplayable': harpsichord and organ recordings normally have the odd note 'dubbed', for that very reason...
marsvltor2 2 years ago 2
Listen to Angela Hewitt play anything by Bach: she has committed all of his keyboard music to memory, and has recorded all of it. You will place Glenn Gould just beneath Hewitt, and all of the others come well after her.
cadecadecadecadecade 2 years ago
The secret of good hapchsichord is in fingers. You play the piano with your soul and body and the harpchicord with your brain and fingers
Frenchteacheronline 3 years ago 2
wow he's better than anyone i know! it's really though... i know .. i play saxophone piano and clarinet.. it becomes disturbing when u have to play because sometimes u mix up the fingers.
Tinouk29 3 years ago
Voll cool!
Russischespionin 3 years ago
So...is the secret to good harpsichord-playing, gigantic arms? Amazing, well-played!
whattube8 3 years ago
I love the Art of the Fugue so much <3
Tanks for the vid. But its nor as good as on the Organ... anyway 5 stars!
blacksk4 3 years ago 2
schwarzenegger?
mmariasoledad 3 years ago
great performance. not sure that the couplers sound right and your instrument could do with some serious tuning..
but otherwise really well played!
pianoplayeruk 3 years ago
perfectly played
Xear0 3 years ago
dis SOund a little bit like dis :
Bach - Concerto for 3 Harpsichords in D minor (BWV 1063
... its something it's looks on it ... isn't pepol ??
Darkboy2525 3 years ago
Not even a little. The melodies, rhythms, and gestures are strikingly different. The only thing they have in common is the composer and the key.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
hey, i took a class in that room, taught by moroney, and played that harpsichord, once upon a time.
rtsing 3 years ago 2
great work i really like your playing
PiotrSzyPiotr 3 years ago
Nice performance, could you please record it again on a properly tuned hapsichord?
Would love it (love this as well 4 stars) ;-)
Moenstah 3 years ago 2
I agree witchoo. The harpsichord is a half step flat.
Akee1990 3 years ago
The harpsichord is actually not a half step flat. It is in baroque tuning - as many harpsichords are - where A = 415 rather than 440. That being said, it is rather out of tune.
KefkasGriever 3 years ago
In the baroque, harpsichords were usually 415 or 390. Today, people make harpsichord on 415 with transpositer, so you can change it on 440 (modern intonation)
mrharpsi 3 years ago
Very good!! and very nice fugue... one of my favorites. =)
Andore23 3 years ago
I'll also post a version when i'm gonna finish learning contrapunctus 9, what shall it be, piano or harpsichord? ;)
n34t43v3r 3 years ago
Harpsichord...the pianoforte is lame
DrKorn5 3 years ago
I don't think the registers sound well, coupled.
dolofonos 3 years ago
Best version i've heard after Glenn Goulds which I have on CD - thumbs up, 5*
Corlagon2 3 years ago
Yeah, nice time for this fugue. Good performance. I would check the tuning of the higher notes.
DBJ06 3 years ago
this fugue can be played at any tempo but not too slow nor fast. this tempo is perfect from my point of view. no faster.
ryanyee1234567890 3 years ago
Don't get too hung up on the tempo comments. It's not not too slow. Also the tuning is not necessarily your fault but make sure you have someone look it over before your next recording.
jlamour 3 years ago
EXCELLENT! Probably one of the best Bach performances I've seen on YouTube. Keep 'em coming! - Bach harpsichord fan.
jlamour 3 years ago
I'm very impressed. Though I've always enjoyed this certain fugue to be played faster, I understand how enormously hard it is. I commend you for your great work!!!
ruitye75ir94444 3 years ago
beeaaauuutifulll! the harpsichord always does bach's work justice. except if you're glenn gould, of course.
coolitnowjim 3 years ago
more!!!
please
jpiano2 3 years ago
elevadisimooooo !!!! solo los angeles componen asi
raticida123456 3 years ago
very good execution!
EliaMarius 3 years ago
Que lindo esse cravo!
binhoservice 3 years ago
wow!! great job
syrhchrys 3 years ago
that was exceptional! I'm learning Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in A minor I think BWV 904. Wish I had access to a harpsichord! looks alot harder than a standard upright. keep up the good work. :)
JAYASEKERA 3 years ago
This young man has such a talent about which I could only dream of possessing. I have been listening to Bach for ages...tried my hand at performance...and threw my hands up in frustration to become just a listener.
Caxton1942 3 years ago
Great performance; this is one of my favourite contrapuncti from the Art of Fugue (along with XI and the final incomplete fugue), and you certainly have done justice. I do think the last chord could have been rolled, but nonetheless it is a very good performance, and a wonderful sounding harpsichord (the tuning does not bother me at all). Bravo!
DannyDaWriter 3 years ago
is this a bit out of tune? it doesn't start with 'd' ?
thetrojan01gr 3 years ago
He's in tune; the thing is is that his A is tuned to 415KHz, thus pushing all the other notes down what appears to be a half step as well (a "true" half step from our standard A=440KHz is something around 415.836KHz or something). He may also be using a different temperament, which is why the two Ds in the octaval jump do not sound similar.
DannyDaWriter 3 years ago
Yes, you're right about the A=415. However, the instrument really is out of tune. At the time of recording, this harpsichord had not been tuned in quite a while, which explains the octave leap sounding a bit off!
ryteon3 3 years ago
@DannyDaWriter
All tuning systems have justly tuned octaves. In fact, the point of tempered tuning is to keep the octave just after going through the circle of fifths.
If you were to temper the octave, then you couldn't repeat any pitch in different registers, which defeats the purpose of this fugue's delicious invertible counterpoint.
Whatever, it still sounds like an exotic, ancient temperament. And it's still played well.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone *cough*Cordier temperament*cough*
Nerdimtar 1 year ago
Well, I take back what I said about all temperaments having just octaves. But my knowledge of tuning theory is superficial at best.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
Heck...I cannot abide critics...if I could sit down and churn out one bar of chopsticks on a keyboard...I would have an apoplectic fit of joy...bravo...
Caxton1942 3 years ago
This is my favorite Contrapunctus and I had never heard it on harpsichord. Thank you so much.
Zep1083 3 years ago 3
O_O Wow...
3766673Liberate 3 years ago 2
This is by far my favourite part from the art of the fugue.
firebreathone 3 years ago 3
not my favourite of the AOF, good job nevertheless, I sense a slight detachment, so if anything needs improvement it's that in my opinion.
znanto 4 years ago
UNA DE MIS CANCIONES FAVORITAS del contrapunto.
Casi perfectamente tocada
NOTABLE!
sauterio 4 years ago
You're Typewriting.Simply playing with your fingers metronomically and listening to the ensuing structure is about 1/10th of a Baroque performers task.Are We on a Diet?
smithsherman 4 years ago
Mi konsentas kun raticida123456, tre stranga klavarsono...
jackreneee 4 years ago
beautyful, but the harpsichord........ssss
raticida123456 4 years ago
Not bad, work on your trills though
wolfgang7445 4 years ago