Yeah this will happen if you keep using the old energy that is being capped DUUUUUH!!! if you use the renewable it will be astronomically cheaper. That is cap and trade. The bad energy is expensive and the new energy is cheaper. Obvious!
John R. Christy has been accused of recanting his position that climate change is neither Anthropogenic nor Catastrophic, but he didn’t. He used two independent data sets, weather balloon and satellite. (see links in my about me) Later he only stated that there was some anthropogenic impact that could not be predicted 100 years out, but that what we’re doing was good for the plants.
1 /2 Obama stop offshore drilling until it was reinstated. This could cause a $5 a gallon increase, because we would grow dependent upon foreign nations we are not allies with in order to provide our oil. Cap and Trade (American Power Act) would increase gas prices increase by $2.58 a gallon according to George C. Marshall Institute& taxes on the average household up to $3200 according to the RNC Foreign countries price gouge w/ gas prices to $10/gal!.
If this is NOT the most destructive piece of legislation in American history, than what is? Maybe the health care ponzi scheme? Perhaps. But I ask you: What will happen if Americans suddenly had to start paying $7.00 a gallon for gasoline and home heating oil? Will that have an impact on anyone? What will it do to the middle cl;ass when electric rates triple? Come on. Wake up. Cap and trade will do nothing for the environment. All it will do is take money from middle class.
"The most destructive piece of legislation in American history."
I stopped watching this video as soon as you used such an idiotic, obviously untrue catchphrase in order to be REALLY SERIOUS about the matter but instead it's just pathetic.
You're apparently not a historian. Or else you wouldn't say something so daft.
CAP AND TRADE is probably dead, however, they may try a different trick in the future.....BE WARNED......This Obama boy is a BIG communist-phile.....PHILE as you know, means LOVER.....Obama LOVES the hammer and sickle.....He won because of his stupid lies and skin color reverse-racism........
I think this bill is brilliant. It forces your company to be friendlier to the environment by installing alternative fuels. Then you can actually get money from NOT reaching the so-called "cap". I don't understand when people are saying "PEOPLE WILL DIE FROM THIS BILL" bullshit. If they don't get with the program, that's too bad. It's not that difficult to INVEST in RENEWABLE energy and then later down the line, actually receive money? WHOA That's a 2 step process OMG THAT WAS SO DIFFICULT -.-"
You people need to see what they are gonna do with the CAP AND TRADE BILL HR 2454 ! U WONT BE ABLE TO SELL YOUR HOUSE UNLESS IT IS UP TO GOVT STANDARDS THAT HAVE ZERO LIMITS & AND CAN CHANGE WITH OUT REASON TO ANY LEVEL
THEY ARE FLECKING CRIMINALS AND IM WALKING AWAY/ SELLING EVERY THING I OWN AND NEVER CONTRIBUTING TO THIS MADNESS AGAIN
YOU WILL ALSO NEED A LIC TO OWN YOUR HOME AND THAT MEANS A FULL INSPECTION THAT YOU PAY FOR TO THE GOVERNMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT U ~ WE ARE SCREWED
i like how obama is trying to fix earth but like hes ruining our lives and making us pay more money for things. But i think he kind of has a point because some of us well most of us humans polute the air everyday or a lot. Again though all of us will be poor and not have enough money to even live in a house, its crazy
@TheDmoneykid It has nothing to do with saving the earth. All it does is tax you so that you can pay more money to the banks. Why are petroleum companies so heavily invested in so-called "Green Energy"? Because they are funding the whole thing. If you can tax a life-giving (essential) gas like carbon dioxide and claim that it is a toxic waste, you can rake in billions of dollars easily.
We need real alternative energy, not more taxes for Al Gore and elitists.
@TheDmoneykid what the fuck i don't pollute shit, stop being an apologist you dick! THERE the polluters. HOW THE FUCK DOES A FARMER POLLUTE< IT IS AGAINST HIS NATURE!!! dumbshit!
Once This actually goes thru...........I think its time to finally Stand up, whats it gona take for u Yuppies to retaliate? STFU about "Thats what they want u to do" WTF WHEN are we gona do something??? WHen ur kids die? WHen ur Parents get killed, taxed to death? WHATS IT GONA TAKE?
Al Gore and crew attempted to use an upward fluctuation in the world's KNOWN 35 year temperature cycles to spread terror for power and profit, just as Inca and Mayan Priests once used their knowledge of eclipses to intimidate their populations, and pretend a direct connection to God.
What Al Gore and the Climate Clown Cabal are still trying to do is TREASON. Anybody remember what that is? Well, Ill give you a hint : before there can be treason, you need to still have a country first.
The middle class is already finished.... the stock market has been flat for a decade and will be flat for another decade. Home values have been killed. Middle Class has no savings to put kids through college let alone retire. They have stopped buying goods, small businesses are closing... jobs are being destroyed. Why during the greatest recession, would we impose the greatest tax??? wake up. Something is wrong here. Very wrong. They are draining every dollar they can before the ship sinks.
the poor don't care? what country are u from? the poor (which u will soon be) would suffer more then the m/c. u must be some idiot to say the poor (the millions of us who are underpaid) that work would be devistated. are u an idiot?
or u just don't give a hell. ur a shit for brains.
@TwoTerrors i think what he was trying to say is the poor dont understand it and wont do anything about it. really the middle class will be hurt more because you poor people qualify for all kinds of help from the government( welfare, lonestar, wick) the middle class doesnt qualify for government help and has to pay these fees out of their pocket
@TwoTerrors fucking poor people in America dont have to worry about shit, they didnt do shit with their lives and then they go have 6 kids and get shit tons of money to pay for everything the kids eat and wear while they do whatever they want, and the kids grow up to be shitheads and do the same thing as their parents.
All of you morons that voted for this Nazi because he wasn't Bush (neither was McCain) and because there wasn't an R after his name, I hope you're happy that you're now turning the country into the former Soviet Union!
We poor , I am 62, will no longer get medicare, no more having a car to get to the doctor, no more getting warm in the winter. Thanks, commie Obama, and I voted for him because lies can work.
slipsilversliver- this sort of legislation doesn't care whether you are rich or not. Not too long ago I myself was rather bad off... earned 18,800 as a single person. Yet, I did not ask for help and I worked my @ss off to get ahead. This very year I started my own business... and still work my @ss off. Now I pay nearly 50% of what I earn to the govt! That means that HALF OF MY TIME that I work is NOT for me. If taxes increase from the current amt., it will be harder 4 many to stay in biz.
I see everyone commenting on how bad this is, why? Money? Im not rich, i cant afford shit. You whiners are simply jumping on the band wagon. All due respect to everyone but can you not see how great of an idea this truly is? He is taxing fossil fuels (which are bad), they said nothing about taxing more technological forms of energy- like Wind, Solar, Geo-Thermal, and hell even Zero Point energy. I love oil and gas too but seriously, ADVANCE YOUR SHIT or PAY FOR IT.
Alternative energy IS a great idea. Wind, Solar, Geo and other alternatives are ALREADY under development. You cannot FORCE technology to work when its NOT ready. The Wright Brothers simply could NOT get the moon. Alternatives are coming. There is NO reason to destroy my family because you want to force history and technology to move faster. If you REALLY believe in "clean" energy NOW, we can build nuclear plants: No oil, no CO2, cheap power,happy planet, plenty of energy.
Absolutely agreed, but forcing into clean cheap energy may be the only way. IF the Wright Brothers had schematics for a Lunar Module and Mercury 5, but didn't use them, you could then compare with today. This clean free energy is here, it is now. Very little would be needed (if everyone was in on it). Obviously the Wright Brothers were not capable of such a monstrosity in that time but we are, we must. Fighting the tax is a losing battle, simply counter with free energy - checkmate. :)
Free energy would be great but I doubt it would remain free. This bill is not about climate change, it's about control. It's not just an oil tax, it's the gov reaching in to your home to tell you what light bulbs, appliances, windows, roof, landscaping... etc you will have to have in order to pass inspection to sell your own home. It's 1600 or so pages that no one has read. It's much worse than a tax or push for clean energy. It's a power grab.
the middle class will be crippled! Of course we ant to progress energy technology, but not at the expense of destroying our entire energy foundation and destroying the economy even more!
I can't believe you think the middle class will be "crippled". Maybe YOU need to grow up and think of more than just your nickels and dimes. I think the biggest problem this is causing is more and more whiny cry babies afraid of losing mommy's tits.
The world has been gearing for change in energy for the last 50 years and nobody allowed it, thank god someone finally said enough is enough and is attempting to FORCE new technology.
This will destroy MILLIONS of Jobs and destroy large portions of our economy.
Mommy's tits? you mean my job? you mean my working hard to provide for my family????
NO you moron! Obama's idea of a welfare state supports your "Mommy's tits" notion, not hard working Americans who simply want the government to stay the hell out of our lives.
sorry jackass, people cant afford Obama anymore.... not to mention he its illegal for him to FORCE this
I guess you're right, we can keep the jobs, keep taxes low.
Keep sucking petro and burning it at a phenomenal rate.
Nothing we can't handle will happen, nothing we need to worry about yet. And we will live a little happier at the expense of our grandchildren.
I like that selfish idea, it's very "wise" and "informed".
It sure was nice that we had people that founded this country sacrifice so much to make it so, but we will be the generations that ignorantly ruined it.
I like clean air and healthy food and no near-sighted fool is going to convince me otherwise. If I can't have it in my lifetime then I hope my children can in theirs.
The plan is to reward clean energy with incentives and tax over-polluters, what self-aware company will continue to over-pollute? NONE
There will be competition, energy companies will adapt, people will find the cheapest route, and new ways will emerge.
Indeed prices will go up. Change will hurt everybody. If only there was a political solution that could fix our problems.
If global warming is real, shouldn't we try to do something? The cataclysmic end we face is more important than finances. If it is real then likely it is more of a problem then we know, halting emissions to zero right now does not fix it.
With that it does seem we should live comfortably as long as possible before our doom.
What happened to America home of the free? We now have a evil dictaor, start the impeachment process now dont wait. Im poor and i pay for my electric bill for now but i wont be able to afford to buy a gallon of gas to go to the store to buy hyper inflated food this will effect everyone dont let this happen!!!!!!!!
The taxes will roll in, the emisions will not decrease until the consumer can no longer afford to pay for anything, which will destroy more jobs.
I see a big serpents tongue it slithers out and goes back in, cap and trade is just another ponzi scheme. It's being sold just like a ponzi scheme and when the snakes tongue returns you'll be left holding the empty bag.
DC is ponzi scheme, they get in at the ground level with zero risk capital (your tax dollars) that's what all DC spending is.
If ther were plenty of voices, Why wasn`t the DUMB ASS impeached? And if you don`t think we could have done better than bush, you haven`t experienced many presidents.
isnt it funny how this bill passed in the house the day after micheal jacksons death? Yet another example of misdirection. were going to hear about a pop singers death in the main media for six months to a year while obamanations like this are getting passed. RISE UP MY COUNTRYMEN AND WOMEN. join the campain for liberty keep informed by emails and get your voices heard. these next few year may determine the rest of our lives.
But look at what's happening. It may not be that far off from the actual mindset on the hill. I blame this on the 4% that put this country in the toilet. Now the whole class suffers.
And up yours with the "people like you" comment. You take a dump once a day just like I do and everyone does. Stop trying to lump people into your ignorance black and white classes. There is an entire country of people between extreme left and extreme right.
OK, I agree that the cost of most everything will probably go up under this proposed legislation... BUT - where are you getting the figures of how much these different services and fuels will increase? Seriously... how about some references?
I agree references would be nice, but I don't think their is any way to get good numbers. From a surface perspective it makes sense, energy costs more, so everything you buy even if it is not energy will increase because it takes energy to make those products. Consumers stop spending because things are to expensive, so prices on those products will be raised to where even more people can not buy the products and suddenly are current recession looks pretty good.
Yes, I was thinking the same. "House utility bills will increase by 300%". How do you know that? Congress hasn`t even read the bill in full, have you?
America is being distroyed by design in order to push through this New World Order crap! In order to do this the middle class needs to be destroyed along w/ about 80% of the worlds population,watch out for government funded eugenics like that swine flu virus they say will "Help" even if it's mandated I will still refuse it. We're in the last day's before the return of Jesus Christ you better know for sure what God you serve! Cap & trades end result will be a total economic crash I'm serious!
No matter how much negative evidence is stacked against huge government spending/taxing projects designed to both indirectly and implicitly erode individual freedom, statists and their tyrannical ilk (American liberals) will continue to encourage it all the way. If this means utterly destroying opposition through word and action, then so be it. As time goes on, Americans will find that they will be allowed to do and say less and less. This is a continuing battle between liberty and tyranny.
Oh calm down. Nobody is taking your freedoms away. Maybe your freedom to abuse yourself and cost the rest of us money in doing so, but other than that....no.
Keep in mind nothing congress has passed in the last few years by congress has worked. Both Energy Bills have not only failed they caused food prices to increase. Obama's stimulus and mortgage plans have failed. Cash for Clunkers will fail and so will this.
Well if that Moronic Obama puts an executive order on certain things congress won't have a thing to say, besides all of those PRIVATE off shore banking systems seem to be running this country now more than the congress, it's turning into a luciferian nightmare on the hill. Just my thought anyway :)
I love your statement that the poor don't pay to heat their homes. Then who does,,,Santa Claus?
What a bunch of idiots conservatives are. You will say anthing and say it like it's a fact until all of you believe it. Why not just start telling yourselves everything is wonderful?
Why don't we wait and see how it works instead of pretending we all have crystal balls and can see the future. It's going to happen so let's stop crying about it and work with it. I doubt our own government would vote to cripple the people after what the wallstreet criminals just did to us. That would be political suicide.
why don't you put your hand on a hot stove to see if your hand gets burned. thats the same logic you are using here. obama said himself jan 17, 2008, that energy costs would skyrocket. warren buffet said this is a HUGE tax. even greenpeace opposed the bill saying it would do nothing for the environment and was not based on "sound science." gas prices will increase 77 cents per gallon. electric bills would go up 90%.
hey doofus you don't needa crystal ball to see the end product of this mis-begotten bill, all you have to do is read it. Oh wait...that's right, we don't need to read it on account a because we should just be lemmings with blind faith/trust that the gov'ment is really there to help us.
This is all about Constitutional Suicide,and guess what?? Politics trancend from ism to ism and they all make sure to cover their ass while the rest get reamed
wait for what? I have seen building codes become more strict, GFIs needing to be installed by sinks, old toilets with the tank above that worked fine having to be removed. It will only get tighter as it has been getting for the last 60 years, believe me. And we are crying ,we are trying to stop it, an action, not crying.
That's the whole point dear, income won't go up but taxes will, thus riding American middle class family's, more government control and less civil rights. Have you ever read the Patriot Act? A lot of it overrides our constutional rights! It's total socialization & unless more ppl. speak out it will continue. Do you know they are getting ready to revamp the internet too? Censorshiping the net, can you believe that crap,it's like we're living in freaken China!
Cost of living increase... really? With unemployment running rampid, you're going to get a cost of living increase?
Ok, lets say you get a cost of living increase. With the money blown on the stimulus... inflation is soon to follow, and now your dollar is worth 80 cents. Then cap and tax takes hold, now you're paying... lets be conservative and say 30%more for... gas, and electricity. But everything you buy comes on a truck, delivery charges go up... product cost go up. Don't you see it?
Yes...you're exactly right but you put the cost of living increase at the front of your list. Now go back and do your list with the cost of living increase at the end. If it happens the way you say it will, people wouldn't even be able to afford to drive to work. Business won't slit the consumer's throat that keeps them alive. It will all work out. Too much panic in speculation.
I swear this truly is the funniest thing I have ever read - Check it out:
The proposal -- frequently referred to as a cap-and-trade plan -- would establish an emissions trading system that would permit companies that emit fewer greenhouse gases than they are allowed to sell the excess portion to companies that exceed their allowances
I can't wait to see what happens after the September Bank Holiday!
Pelosi has $50,000 to $100,000 in Clean Energy Fuels Corp.
Rep. Markey has investments between $51,000 and $115,000 in the Firsthand Technology Value Fund (which as three solar-energy manufacturers)
Al Gore venture capital firm is heavily invested in a new software company to help companies track their carbon footprint. He, and companies like his, will make a fortune.
Not only will this bill make politicians rich, it will increase their power as well.
Most of the people behind this bill have money invested in companies that stand to profit hugely off of the backs of middle America. Remember ENRON? This is just another white collar crime where people are being scammed. The Wall Street Journal stated that middle America will pay the more. Australia is canning the cap and trade because they are losing 2.5 jobs to 1 job created. These are facts not pi xi dust fairy land like progressives lever of intellect.
the united states should be separated!!!!! conservatives take Alaska and Texas and a few surrounding states and the libs can have the rest!! Where can conservatives go to get away from all this debt! We're the only ones who can afford to pay if off! Conservatives make the money, and liberals decide how to spend it!
Here! Here!!! I want a succession to a state where I am free!!! I am tired of this f@$#$#@ing tyranny. Just leave us the hell alone. We don't want you health care, we don't want a greener kermit the frog environment, we want a hummer to drive or ford truck, we want to fail, and we want to keep our own money!!!!
These numbers are fake! Designed to scare simpletons into opposing what will free us from our dependence on Saudi Arabia and foriegn oil!! DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!!!
Obama and his people are the one's that said they want to triple energy costs. Listen to your hero and see what's happening. The joke will be one you because you'll be gladly paying your $5.00 a gallon gasoline tax, and NOTHING will happen to protect the environment. This is nothing more than a money grab in the name of the environment. It is a tax so Washington can continue to grow.
You are a complete fucking idiot. I would be willing to bet the numbers are worse in the wrong direction. Don't be an idiot. Do you really think prices are not going to go up? Do you really think the big companys are just going to give you something for nothing and lose money!!??? Wow, there are some really dumb fucking people in this world.
Yes there are some really dumb people in this world. Simpletons who believe anything they view. You are one of them. You are willing to bet on something you haven't even looked into?
Who is the simpleton. Cap and tax will be passed on to consumers. Also many companies will leave this country. This was implemented in spain and they now realized thay have lost jobs as a result and the unemployment is 19% so wake up!
Why is Spains unemployment so high? It has nothing to do with cap and trade. Half of the unemployed are service sector employees. A quarter of the unemployed are construction workers that are connected to the vacation housing boom in spain. If you had done a simple google search you could have read this for yourself. I think you have been misled or are trying to mislead people by saying that this is a tax. How much will our bills go up then?
Actually a research study that just came out in Spain showed that cap and trade and green technology lost more jobs and has contributed to the high unemployment rate. A Spanish researcher has been doing research and reported it in a journal. So look up you facts. Stop being a progressive and start being an American. We broke away from Europe for a reason. Why would we copy them now? Because you progressives are stupid and want this Utopian society where butterflies sing and fairies dance
Please cite the study then. It bet it doesn't exist or it was done by some interest group that consists of 4 "scientist" that get paid 100k a year by the oil and coal industry. You might want to check into your "facts" and pull your head out of your ass while your at it.
nyseattitude are you an IDIOT??? This is a REAL threat and what's happening is not just made up! You are blind and have to get yer head out of your ARSE before someone kicks it further up there! THIS IS REAL and not a fable...it will RUIN America! The people that think we have to have clean air NOW are also idiots as it will take years and that's just fine but Obombus wants to do it in one year and that just WON'T work. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
This has nothing to do with being conservative vs liberal, this has to do with a march straight to marxism. Open your eyes ,Sheeple. Since when did Americans lay down for a complete take over, with utter disregard for the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Obama is the biggest fear monger of all, Get your head out of your butt and listen to him.
You must be rich or part of the elite. This administration is taxing us to death, and has lied to get the job. This is the WORST administration I have seen in my 62 years. Everything our fathers and grandfathers fought for is going down the drain. Soon you won't be able to fart without this government taxing you for it. Unfortunately, young Americans have NO idea about the freedoms that are being taken away and the drastic change that will be imposed on all of us. Not good change either.
Incase you where not aware, Conservatives have very little credibility left. People are tired of your fear mongering. Creating new clean and renewable energy is a good thing. Supplying Saudi's and terrorists with Oil revenue is not a good thing. Americans want to find new energy sources that don't pollute.
Are you the elite wealthy? Tell me how you'll like paying triple the cost for EVERYTHING! Can you afford it? What percentage of the middle class do you see living below the poverty line soon? This entire cap and trade issue is a plot to KILL the middle class. If you think otherwise, you're dilusional!
How about we drill for oil and natural gas here in the US rather than buying from overseas? We have enough oil reserves and natural gas reserves right here in the US that we don't need to buy ME oil. But, libtards would rather pay sky high prices than to drill. The only drilling libtards like is the drilling in our pocketbooks. I just wish the sensible people in this country didn't have to suffer along with the libtards.
Its cheaper to buy it from other countries than build the refineries and drilling platforms here. If we really wanted to we could basically bankrupt the saudis and who ever sells us oil overnight. We have enough natural gas and oil here as well as coal and other natural resources.
The real deal is that we're using up everyone else's oil and gas before we tap into ours. Eventually we'll ahve to, and then the rest of the world will really be on their knees to us. Planning for future domination is what it's all about. Once the Saudi wells dry up, those towel heads will be back in the stone age where they belong.
if not for the "libtards" you would be sufferring a whole lot more than you know my friend. Try doing a little research to see what your libtards have done for you and society as a whole over the last five or six decades. Alot of what you take for granted as your "rights" wouldn't exist if not for them. You sound like just another dumbass conservative, brainwashed into filling the pockets of your rich boss. Get a brain cell.
there is nothing about obama that relects the austrian school of economics influence. can you even name ONE economist from this school? prob not. what they advocate is separation of business and state. that is true capitalism.
Dude I am an Austrian economist and studied economics at the undergraduate level with professors dedicated to the Chicago School. I am a devotee of the philosophy and have been for over a decade. You obviously misunderstood my post. At least it sounds like we are on the same page. Obama is not for the Austrian school he is Keynesian shit!
i did misunderstand your post. yes, obama is a keynesian, but he also hates capitalism and has more then a marxist influence in his world view. however, as thomas sowell recently noted, obama's action have been more of a fascist nature, in that there is private ownership of business but it is controlled by the gov.
Yeah this will happen if you keep using the old energy that is being capped DUUUUUH!!! if you use the renewable it will be astronomically cheaper. That is cap and trade. The bad energy is expensive and the new energy is cheaper. Obvious!
dfg93353 6 months ago
John R. Christy has been accused of recanting his position that climate change is neither Anthropogenic nor Catastrophic, but he didn’t. He used two independent data sets, weather balloon and satellite. (see links in my about me) Later he only stated that there was some anthropogenic impact that could not be predicted 100 years out, but that what we’re doing was good for the plants.
ThunderheadNebula 1 year ago
2/2 Obama's Former Green Jobs Czar and Communist, Van Jones
Admits Left is 'PRETENDING' Need for Regulations in Green Movement
watch?v=bgKr480RYc4
ThunderheadNebula 1 year ago
1 /2 Obama stop offshore drilling until it was reinstated. This could cause a $5 a gallon increase, because we would grow dependent upon foreign nations we are not allies with in order to provide our oil. Cap and Trade (American Power Act) would increase gas prices increase by $2.58 a gallon according to George C. Marshall Institute& taxes on the average household up to $3200 according to the RNC Foreign countries price gouge w/ gas prices to $10/gal!.
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Allen West 2012
ThunderheadNebula 1 year ago
If this is NOT the most destructive piece of legislation in American history, than what is? Maybe the health care ponzi scheme? Perhaps. But I ask you: What will happen if Americans suddenly had to start paying $7.00 a gallon for gasoline and home heating oil? Will that have an impact on anyone? What will it do to the middle cl;ass when electric rates triple? Come on. Wake up. Cap and trade will do nothing for the environment. All it will do is take money from middle class.
JudyPepNY 1 year ago
"The most destructive piece of legislation in American history."
I stopped watching this video as soon as you used such an idiotic, obviously untrue catchphrase in order to be REALLY SERIOUS about the matter but instead it's just pathetic.
You're apparently not a historian. Or else you wouldn't say something so daft.
Zeratul723 1 year ago
CAP AND TRADE is probably dead, however, they may try a different trick in the future.....BE WARNED......This Obama boy is a BIG communist-phile.....PHILE as you know, means LOVER.....Obama LOVES the hammer and sickle.....He won because of his stupid lies and skin color reverse-racism........
sierracuban 1 year ago
I think this bill is brilliant. It forces your company to be friendlier to the environment by installing alternative fuels. Then you can actually get money from NOT reaching the so-called "cap". I don't understand when people are saying "PEOPLE WILL DIE FROM THIS BILL" bullshit. If they don't get with the program, that's too bad. It's not that difficult to INVEST in RENEWABLE energy and then later down the line, actually receive money? WHOA That's a 2 step process OMG THAT WAS SO DIFFICULT -.-"
recharged01 1 year ago
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You people need to see what they are gonna do with the CAP AND TRADE BILL HR 2454 ! U WONT BE ABLE TO SELL YOUR HOUSE UNLESS IT IS UP TO GOVT STANDARDS THAT HAVE ZERO LIMITS & AND CAN CHANGE WITH OUT REASON TO ANY LEVEL
THEY ARE FLECKING CRIMINALS AND IM WALKING AWAY/ SELLING EVERY THING I OWN AND NEVER CONTRIBUTING TO THIS MADNESS AGAIN
YOU WILL ALSO NEED A LIC TO OWN YOUR HOME AND THAT MEANS A FULL INSPECTION THAT YOU PAY FOR TO THE GOVERNMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT U ~ WE ARE SCREWED
HoodwinkedbyanAngel 1 year ago
It's time to ignore government
as we should have done a long time ago
laws my eye
they are insane scribblings of insane megalomaniacs
it's time to laugh at the court jesters
it's all they deserve
peace ;)
haansgruber 1 year ago
i like how obama is trying to fix earth but like hes ruining our lives and making us pay more money for things. But i think he kind of has a point because some of us well most of us humans polute the air everyday or a lot. Again though all of us will be poor and not have enough money to even live in a house, its crazy
TheDmoneykid 1 year ago
@TheDmoneykid It has nothing to do with saving the earth. All it does is tax you so that you can pay more money to the banks. Why are petroleum companies so heavily invested in so-called "Green Energy"? Because they are funding the whole thing. If you can tax a life-giving (essential) gas like carbon dioxide and claim that it is a toxic waste, you can rake in billions of dollars easily.
We need real alternative energy, not more taxes for Al Gore and elitists.
IcedEarth426 1 year ago
@TheDmoneykid what the fuck i don't pollute shit, stop being an apologist you dick! THERE the polluters. HOW THE FUCK DOES A FARMER POLLUTE< IT IS AGAINST HIS NATURE!!! dumbshit!
maidenkid84 1 year ago
Obama has to go
luilun 1 year ago
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bubba007ss 1 year ago
Capping Prosperity: watch?v=SqsvKCRdomg
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
Everyone need to go to Solar! Other Energy sources
Grow UR own Food
y4upeople 1 year ago
that's right. you have to call your rep and bitch them out
kaker69 1 year ago
Once This actually goes thru...........I think its time to finally Stand up, whats it gona take for u Yuppies to retaliate? STFU about "Thats what they want u to do" WTF WHEN are we gona do something??? WHen ur kids die? WHen ur Parents get killed, taxed to death? WHATS IT GONA TAKE?
IvanDripsOoze 1 year ago
Al Gore and crew attempted to use an upward fluctuation in the world's KNOWN 35 year temperature cycles to spread terror for power and profit, just as Inca and Mayan Priests once used their knowledge of eclipses to intimidate their populations, and pretend a direct connection to God.
What Al Gore and the Climate Clown Cabal are still trying to do is TREASON. Anybody remember what that is? Well, Ill give you a hint : before there can be treason, you need to still have a country first.
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beggarz 2 years ago
The middle class is already finished.... the stock market has been flat for a decade and will be flat for another decade. Home values have been killed. Middle Class has no savings to put kids through college let alone retire. They have stopped buying goods, small businesses are closing... jobs are being destroyed. Why during the greatest recession, would we impose the greatest tax??? wake up. Something is wrong here. Very wrong. They are draining every dollar they can before the ship sinks.
MWdream 2 years ago
what an idiot. he lost his argument when he said the poor don't care.
ineedfiles 2 years ago
@ Sparky. I think many many many more people will die from the consequences of climate change if nothing is done
left888 2 years ago
many people will die because of this bill
sparky41684 2 years ago 6
They are bringing back feudalism.
Awakenification 2 years ago 2
the poor don't care? what country are u from? the poor (which u will soon be) would suffer more then the m/c. u must be some idiot to say the poor (the millions of us who are underpaid) that work would be devistated. are u an idiot?
or u just don't give a hell. ur a shit for brains.
TwoTerrors 2 years ago 5
@TwoTerrors i think what he was trying to say is the poor dont understand it and wont do anything about it. really the middle class will be hurt more because you poor people qualify for all kinds of help from the government( welfare, lonestar, wick) the middle class doesnt qualify for government help and has to pay these fees out of their pocket
KeepinITreal37 1 year ago
@TwoTerrors fucking poor people in America dont have to worry about shit, they didnt do shit with their lives and then they go have 6 kids and get shit tons of money to pay for everything the kids eat and wear while they do whatever they want, and the kids grow up to be shitheads and do the same thing as their parents.
KeepinITreal37 1 year ago
All of you morons that voted for this Nazi because he wasn't Bush (neither was McCain) and because there wasn't an R after his name, I hope you're happy that you're now turning the country into the former Soviet Union!
allbymyself27 2 years ago
We poor , I am 62, will no longer get medicare, no more having a car to get to the doctor, no more getting warm in the winter. Thanks, commie Obama, and I voted for him because lies can work.
bonniealvarez7798 2 years ago
Cap and Trade is a big mistake it will kill america if we dont stop it
ban5336 2 years ago
Like most of the presidents ideas...
MrGOPERA 2 years ago
He's wrong about one thing, the poor like me won't have a car, or social security, or food...
bonniealvarez7798 2 years ago
very true.
TwoTerrors 2 years ago
slipsilversliver- this sort of legislation doesn't care whether you are rich or not. Not too long ago I myself was rather bad off... earned 18,800 as a single person. Yet, I did not ask for help and I worked my @ss off to get ahead. This very year I started my own business... and still work my @ss off. Now I pay nearly 50% of what I earn to the govt! That means that HALF OF MY TIME that I work is NOT for me. If taxes increase from the current amt., it will be harder 4 many to stay in biz.
Needing2Know 2 years ago
I see everyone commenting on how bad this is, why? Money? Im not rich, i cant afford shit. You whiners are simply jumping on the band wagon. All due respect to everyone but can you not see how great of an idea this truly is? He is taxing fossil fuels (which are bad), they said nothing about taxing more technological forms of energy- like Wind, Solar, Geo-Thermal, and hell even Zero Point energy. I love oil and gas too but seriously, ADVANCE YOUR SHIT or PAY FOR IT.
slipsilversliver 2 years ago
Alternative energy IS a great idea. Wind, Solar, Geo and other alternatives are ALREADY under development. You cannot FORCE technology to work when its NOT ready. The Wright Brothers simply could NOT get the moon. Alternatives are coming. There is NO reason to destroy my family because you want to force history and technology to move faster. If you REALLY believe in "clean" energy NOW, we can build nuclear plants: No oil, no CO2, cheap power,happy planet, plenty of energy.
srfspc0953 2 years ago 4
Absolutely agreed, but forcing into clean cheap energy may be the only way. IF the Wright Brothers had schematics for a Lunar Module and Mercury 5, but didn't use them, you could then compare with today. This clean free energy is here, it is now. Very little would be needed (if everyone was in on it). Obviously the Wright Brothers were not capable of such a monstrosity in that time but we are, we must. Fighting the tax is a losing battle, simply counter with free energy - checkmate. :)
slipsilversliver 2 years ago
Free energy would be great but I doubt it would remain free. This bill is not about climate change, it's about control. It's not just an oil tax, it's the gov reaching in to your home to tell you what light bulbs, appliances, windows, roof, landscaping... etc you will have to have in order to pass inspection to sell your own home. It's 1600 or so pages that no one has read. It's much worse than a tax or push for clean energy. It's a power grab.
bootlegpreacher 2 years ago
@slipsilversliver
You are an ignorant child!
the middle class will be crippled! Of course we ant to progress energy technology, but not at the expense of destroying our entire energy foundation and destroying the economy even more!
WAKE UP.
youngbono18 1 year ago
@youngbono18
I can't believe you think the middle class will be "crippled". Maybe YOU need to grow up and think of more than just your nickels and dimes. I think the biggest problem this is causing is more and more whiny cry babies afraid of losing mommy's tits.
The world has been gearing for change in energy for the last 50 years and nobody allowed it, thank god someone finally said enough is enough and is attempting to FORCE new technology.
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
@slipsilversliver
you truly are a flat out moron.
This will destroy MILLIONS of Jobs and destroy large portions of our economy.
Mommy's tits? you mean my job? you mean my working hard to provide for my family????
NO you moron! Obama's idea of a welfare state supports your "Mommy's tits" notion, not hard working Americans who simply want the government to stay the hell out of our lives.
sorry jackass, people cant afford Obama anymore.... not to mention he its illegal for him to FORCE this
youngbono18 1 year ago
@slipsilversliver
The world? THE WORLD?
what other countries huh? China? NO Russia? NO...
the countries that are a threat to us are smart enough not to destroy themselves by passing terrible laws.
youngbono18 1 year ago
@youngbono18
I guess you're right, we can keep the jobs, keep taxes low.
Keep sucking petro and burning it at a phenomenal rate.
Nothing we can't handle will happen, nothing we need to worry about yet. And we will live a little happier at the expense of our grandchildren.
I like that selfish idea, it's very "wise" and "informed".
It sure was nice that we had people that founded this country sacrifice so much to make it so, but we will be the generations that ignorantly ruined it.
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
@youngbono18
They took 'er jabs!!!
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
@slipsilversliver might want to do a little more research on this before making that statement. this is going to affect things like your food as well
wearechangesf 1 year ago
@wearechangesf
I like clean air and healthy food and no near-sighted fool is going to convince me otherwise. If I can't have it in my lifetime then I hope my children can in theirs.
The plan is to reward clean energy with incentives and tax over-polluters, what self-aware company will continue to over-pollute? NONE
There will be competition, energy companies will adapt, people will find the cheapest route, and new ways will emerge.
But hey, i must be an idiot to think rationally.
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
@slipsilversliver -Please just save the enviroment by not having kids pls
FantomShadowz 1 year ago
@FantomShadowz
awww too late, and of course I plan on using them for world domination!!!
I will create a New New World Order, and you will all be slaves to my NNWO financial burdens!!! Then me and my Omnipotent Children of Death (OCD)
will strike at nature and destroy her!!! Your tax woes are over, but the real problem is just beginning, bitches.
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
@slipsilversliver what happens when those Clean Energy suppliers are the ONLY suppliers? prices go up my friend.
justsaynotodrugs 1 year ago
@justsaynotodrugs
Indeed prices will go up. Change will hurt everybody. If only there was a political solution that could fix our problems.
If global warming is real, shouldn't we try to do something? The cataclysmic end we face is more important than finances. If it is real then likely it is more of a problem then we know, halting emissions to zero right now does not fix it.
With that it does seem we should live comfortably as long as possible before our doom.
slipsilversliver 1 year ago
What happened to America home of the free? We now have a evil dictaor, start the impeachment process now dont wait. Im poor and i pay for my electric bill for now but i wont be able to afford to buy a gallon of gas to go to the store to buy hyper inflated food this will effect everyone dont let this happen!!!!!!!!
shartne 2 years ago 2
all in d c needs too be put in jail and tryed for treasion against the american people, hitler has too go.
pigsblood911 2 years ago 2
The taxes will roll in, the emisions will not decrease until the consumer can no longer afford to pay for anything, which will destroy more jobs.
I see a big serpents tongue it slithers out and goes back in, cap and trade is just another ponzi scheme. It's being sold just like a ponzi scheme and when the snakes tongue returns you'll be left holding the empty bag.
DC is ponzi scheme, they get in at the ground level with zero risk capital (your tax dollars) that's what all DC spending is.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 2 years ago
WHERE were ALL these VOICES while bush was bringing this country to its knees?
thsensor 2 years ago
there were plenty of voice as a matter of fact. its not like u were gonna do better than bush....
Metalownz09 2 years ago
If ther were plenty of voices, Why wasn`t the DUMB ASS impeached? And if you don`t think we could have done better than bush, you haven`t experienced many presidents.
thsensor 2 years ago
isnt it funny how this bill passed in the house the day after micheal jacksons death? Yet another example of misdirection. were going to hear about a pop singers death in the main media for six months to a year while obamanations like this are getting passed. RISE UP MY COUNTRYMEN AND WOMEN. join the campain for liberty keep informed by emails and get your voices heard. these next few year may determine the rest of our lives.
mtsEnrique 2 years ago 2
People!!!!! We have got to get together and vote this guy out before he has us all cooking over an open fire in our back yards.
Does anyone have any idea how long it will take to undo all of this obama damage?
dirty1223 2 years ago
Sarcasm.....
But look at what's happening. It may not be that far off from the actual mindset on the hill. I blame this on the 4% that put this country in the toilet. Now the whole class suffers.
And up yours with the "people like you" comment. You take a dump once a day just like I do and everyone does. Stop trying to lump people into your ignorance black and white classes. There is an entire country of people between extreme left and extreme right.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
The left is OUT OF CONTROL!
3rdworldinvasion2 2 years ago 3
EVERYONE that voted for this "Cap and Tax" should be voted out asap!
Time to call/ write/ email all our Senators to stop their vote on this.
United States Senate - (202) 224-3121
Let's put the pressure on and not stop until they vote this one down!
timmunst 2 years ago 2
OK, I agree that the cost of most everything will probably go up under this proposed legislation... BUT - where are you getting the figures of how much these different services and fuels will increase? Seriously... how about some references?
joekirklin 2 years ago
I agree references would be nice, but I don't think their is any way to get good numbers. From a surface perspective it makes sense, energy costs more, so everything you buy even if it is not energy will increase because it takes energy to make those products. Consumers stop spending because things are to expensive, so prices on those products will be raised to where even more people can not buy the products and suddenly are current recession looks pretty good.
webbj123 2 years ago
Yes, I was thinking the same. "House utility bills will increase by 300%". How do you know that? Congress hasn`t even read the bill in full, have you?
paolo27th 2 years ago
You VOTED "CHANGE" so .... take it, chumps.
2010. 2012. 2014///// throw them ALL out!!!
Check out your states Secretary of State website. Click on Elections. Read and Run for Office!
May the Lord be with YOU!
GeraSchmidt 2 years ago 2
I'm sending this video out to as many people as I can.
Obama COUNTS on the ignorance of the American public who are too busy worshipping a dead Child molestor to pay any attention!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
America is being distroyed by design in order to push through this New World Order crap! In order to do this the middle class needs to be destroyed along w/ about 80% of the worlds population,watch out for government funded eugenics like that swine flu virus they say will "Help" even if it's mandated I will still refuse it. We're in the last day's before the return of Jesus Christ you better know for sure what God you serve! Cap & trades end result will be a total economic crash I'm serious!
MultiMeli123 2 years ago
I completely agree!!!!
JMehrman 2 years ago
No matter how much negative evidence is stacked against huge government spending/taxing projects designed to both indirectly and implicitly erode individual freedom, statists and their tyrannical ilk (American liberals) will continue to encourage it all the way. If this means utterly destroying opposition through word and action, then so be it. As time goes on, Americans will find that they will be allowed to do and say less and less. This is a continuing battle between liberty and tyranny.
grayfiresoul 2 years ago 2
Oh calm down. Nobody is taking your freedoms away. Maybe your freedom to abuse yourself and cost the rest of us money in doing so, but other than that....no.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Keep in mind nothing congress has passed in the last few years by congress has worked. Both Energy Bills have not only failed they caused food prices to increase. Obama's stimulus and mortgage plans have failed. Cash for Clunkers will fail and so will this.
gaguy1967 2 years ago
Well if that Moronic Obama puts an executive order on certain things congress won't have a thing to say, besides all of those PRIVATE off shore banking systems seem to be running this country now more than the congress, it's turning into a luciferian nightmare on the hill. Just my thought anyway :)
MultiMeli123 2 years ago
I love your statement that the poor don't pay to heat their homes. Then who does,,,Santa Claus?
What a bunch of idiots conservatives are. You will say anthing and say it like it's a fact until all of you believe it. Why not just start telling yourselves everything is wonderful?
Morons...
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Why dont you actually try making an argument FOR CAP and TRADE
gaguy1967 2 years ago
Why don't we wait and see how it works instead of pretending we all have crystal balls and can see the future. It's going to happen so let's stop crying about it and work with it. I doubt our own government would vote to cripple the people after what the wallstreet criminals just did to us. That would be political suicide.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
doofusgerms
why don't you put your hand on a hot stove to see if your hand gets burned. thats the same logic you are using here. obama said himself jan 17, 2008, that energy costs would skyrocket. warren buffet said this is a HUGE tax. even greenpeace opposed the bill saying it would do nothing for the environment and was not based on "sound science." gas prices will increase 77 cents per gallon. electric bills would go up 90%.
larissan04 2 years ago
hey doofus you don't needa crystal ball to see the end product of this mis-begotten bill, all you have to do is read it. Oh wait...that's right, we don't need to read it on account a because we should just be lemmings with blind faith/trust that the gov'ment is really there to help us.
This is all about Constitutional Suicide,and guess what?? Politics trancend from ism to ism and they all make sure to cover their ass while the rest get reamed
So what color are the clouds on your planet??
Inga4020 2 years ago
wait for what? I have seen building codes become more strict, GFIs needing to be installed by sinks, old toilets with the tank above that worked fine having to be removed. It will only get tighter as it has been getting for the last 60 years, believe me. And we are crying ,we are trying to stop it, an action, not crying.
bonniealvarez7798 2 years ago
Apparently we've discovered that most people don't know what's best for them. This is going to be rectified...finally.
I think this is a great idea and when the cost of "everything" goes up, so will incomes.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
how will INCOMES go up? no, the only thing going up is how much you will have to spend and how much money and power the government holds.
4tiggers 2 years ago
That's the whole point dear, income won't go up but taxes will, thus riding American middle class family's, more government control and less civil rights. Have you ever read the Patriot Act? A lot of it overrides our constutional rights! It's total socialization & unless more ppl. speak out it will continue. Do you know they are getting ready to revamp the internet too? Censorshiping the net, can you believe that crap,it's like we're living in freaken China!
MultiMeli123 2 years ago
There's no way they can censor the internet here. Access is privately owned in this country.
You people are such Buzz kills.
get a grip.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Cost of living increase.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
u don't seem to have a firm grip on reality.
4tiggers 2 years ago
Single income, 50 years old, doing very well, I must have some concept. How about you?
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Cost of living increase... really? With unemployment running rampid, you're going to get a cost of living increase?
Ok, lets say you get a cost of living increase. With the money blown on the stimulus... inflation is soon to follow, and now your dollar is worth 80 cents. Then cap and tax takes hold, now you're paying... lets be conservative and say 30%more for... gas, and electricity. But everything you buy comes on a truck, delivery charges go up... product cost go up. Don't you see it?
Iamonefourhim 2 years ago
Yes...you're exactly right but you put the cost of living increase at the front of your list. Now go back and do your list with the cost of living increase at the end. If it happens the way you say it will, people wouldn't even be able to afford to drive to work. Business won't slit the consumer's throat that keeps them alive. It will all work out. Too much panic in speculation.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Hahahaha...another "public service" from the conservatives.
lol...
doofusgerms 2 years ago
lOVE TO COME TO TALK TO YOU IN 2012
Needleheadnumb 2 years ago
I would like to declare June 27 as burn a tire day!
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Let's do it.
JJFiveTwo 2 years ago
lol hell yeah!
thejugg420 2 years ago
Wake up people!!!
JMehrman 2 years ago
Haha!
As the price of energy goes up, my Norwegain Kroners go up in value!
They are already going ballistic!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
I swear this truly is the funniest thing I have ever read - Check it out:
The proposal -- frequently referred to as a cap-and-trade plan -- would establish an emissions trading system that would permit companies that emit fewer greenhouse gases than they are allowed to sell the excess portion to companies that exceed their allowances
I can't wait to see what happens after the September Bank Holiday!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
One's that will get rich w/ this
Pelosi has $50,000 to $100,000 in Clean Energy Fuels Corp.
Rep. Markey has investments between $51,000 and $115,000 in the Firsthand Technology Value Fund (which as three solar-energy manufacturers)
Al Gore venture capital firm is heavily invested in a new software company to help companies track their carbon footprint. He, and companies like his, will make a fortune.
Not only will this bill make politicians rich, it will increase their power as well.
timmunst 2 years ago
And the Americans love to bend over and take it like a little Yatch!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Or all the democrat politicians that own front companies that exist only to sell off energy permits.
spraynpray 2 years ago
Most of the people behind this bill have money invested in companies that stand to profit hugely off of the backs of middle America. Remember ENRON? This is just another white collar crime where people are being scammed. The Wall Street Journal stated that middle America will pay the more. Australia is canning the cap and trade because they are losing 2.5 jobs to 1 job created. These are facts not pi xi dust fairy land like progressives lever of intellect.
pandabead 2 years ago
This Government is out of control and bent on total destruction of America and freedom
frio109 2 years ago 2
the united states should be separated!!!!! conservatives take Alaska and Texas and a few surrounding states and the libs can have the rest!! Where can conservatives go to get away from all this debt! We're the only ones who can afford to pay if off! Conservatives make the money, and liberals decide how to spend it!
jamjamburlz 2 years ago
Here! Here!!! I want a succession to a state where I am free!!! I am tired of this f@$#$#@ing tyranny. Just leave us the hell alone. We don't want you health care, we don't want a greener kermit the frog environment, we want a hummer to drive or ford truck, we want to fail, and we want to keep our own money!!!!
pandabead 2 years ago
These numbers are fake! Designed to scare simpletons into opposing what will free us from our dependence on Saudi Arabia and foriegn oil!! DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!!!
Spaceysowhat 2 years ago
Obama and his people are the one's that said they want to triple energy costs. Listen to your hero and see what's happening. The joke will be one you because you'll be gladly paying your $5.00 a gallon gasoline tax, and NOTHING will happen to protect the environment. This is nothing more than a money grab in the name of the environment. It is a tax so Washington can continue to grow.
srfspc0953 2 years ago
Cap and Trade is a TAX SCAM, The largest tax scam every devised. This Government does not care tht it will kill the middle class and the country.
frio109 2 years ago 3
You are a complete fucking idiot. I would be willing to bet the numbers are worse in the wrong direction. Don't be an idiot. Do you really think prices are not going to go up? Do you really think the big companys are just going to give you something for nothing and lose money!!??? Wow, there are some really dumb fucking people in this world.
Daddy9Long 2 years ago
Yes there are some really dumb people in this world. Simpletons who believe anything they view. You are one of them. You are willing to bet on something you haven't even looked into?
Spaceysowhat 2 years ago
Who is the simpleton. Cap and tax will be passed on to consumers. Also many companies will leave this country. This was implemented in spain and they now realized thay have lost jobs as a result and the unemployment is 19% so wake up!
pandabead 2 years ago
Why is Spains unemployment so high? It has nothing to do with cap and trade. Half of the unemployed are service sector employees. A quarter of the unemployed are construction workers that are connected to the vacation housing boom in spain. If you had done a simple google search you could have read this for yourself. I think you have been misled or are trying to mislead people by saying that this is a tax. How much will our bills go up then?
Spaceysowhat 2 years ago
Actually a research study that just came out in Spain showed that cap and trade and green technology lost more jobs and has contributed to the high unemployment rate. A Spanish researcher has been doing research and reported it in a journal. So look up you facts. Stop being a progressive and start being an American. We broke away from Europe for a reason. Why would we copy them now? Because you progressives are stupid and want this Utopian society where butterflies sing and fairies dance
pandabead 2 years ago 3
You are the simpleton going to Google University instead of a real on like UC Davis.
pandabead 2 years ago 2
Please cite the study then. It bet it doesn't exist or it was done by some interest group that consists of 4 "scientist" that get paid 100k a year by the oil and coal industry. You might want to check into your "facts" and pull your head out of your ass while your at it.
Spaceysowhat 2 years ago
How the heck is TAXING people for the energy they have no choice but to use "Creating new clean and renewable energy"?
Isn't this putting the cart before the horse?
katraky 2 years ago
F--ing moron!
tlhunter50 2 years ago
This man has got to go!
cyn202 2 years ago
nyseattitude are you an IDIOT??? This is a REAL threat and what's happening is not just made up! You are blind and have to get yer head out of your ARSE before someone kicks it further up there! THIS IS REAL and not a fable...it will RUIN America! The people that think we have to have clean air NOW are also idiots as it will take years and that's just fine but Obombus wants to do it in one year and that just WON'T work. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
geoffy98 2 years ago 2
I's not about the oil, Over 80% of all Electric is produced by Coal , so they are talking about the largest TAX in history!!!!!
1ofthepatriots 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with being conservative vs liberal, this has to do with a march straight to marxism. Open your eyes ,Sheeple. Since when did Americans lay down for a complete take over, with utter disregard for the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Obama is the biggest fear monger of all, Get your head out of your butt and listen to him.
butitta402 2 years ago 2
You must be rich or part of the elite. This administration is taxing us to death, and has lied to get the job. This is the WORST administration I have seen in my 62 years. Everything our fathers and grandfathers fought for is going down the drain. Soon you won't be able to fart without this government taxing you for it. Unfortunately, young Americans have NO idea about the freedoms that are being taken away and the drastic change that will be imposed on all of us. Not good change either.
butitta402 2 years ago
Incase you where not aware, Conservatives have very little credibility left. People are tired of your fear mongering. Creating new clean and renewable energy is a good thing. Supplying Saudi's and terrorists with Oil revenue is not a good thing. Americans want to find new energy sources that don't pollute.
nyseattitude 2 years ago
Are you the elite wealthy? Tell me how you'll like paying triple the cost for EVERYTHING! Can you afford it? What percentage of the middle class do you see living below the poverty line soon? This entire cap and trade issue is a plot to KILL the middle class. If you think otherwise, you're dilusional!
deejroz 2 years ago 2
Chill...
As the prices of things go up, we get cost of living increases. if you want to argue with this fact then go try to pay a nickel for a loaf of bread.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
cost of living increase has been denied for the first time on social security and VA
benefits
bonniealvarez7798 2 years ago
How about we drill for oil and natural gas here in the US rather than buying from overseas? We have enough oil reserves and natural gas reserves right here in the US that we don't need to buy ME oil. But, libtards would rather pay sky high prices than to drill. The only drilling libtards like is the drilling in our pocketbooks. I just wish the sensible people in this country didn't have to suffer along with the libtards.
AletaDallas 2 years ago 2
Its cheaper to buy it from other countries than build the refineries and drilling platforms here. If we really wanted to we could basically bankrupt the saudis and who ever sells us oil overnight. We have enough natural gas and oil here as well as coal and other natural resources.
AmericanPoliceState 2 years ago
The real deal is that we're using up everyone else's oil and gas before we tap into ours. Eventually we'll ahve to, and then the rest of the world will really be on their knees to us. Planning for future domination is what it's all about. Once the Saudi wells dry up, those towel heads will be back in the stone age where they belong.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
if not for the "libtards" you would be sufferring a whole lot more than you know my friend. Try doing a little research to see what your libtards have done for you and society as a whole over the last five or six decades. Alot of what you take for granted as your "rights" wouldn't exist if not for them. You sound like just another dumbass conservative, brainwashed into filling the pockets of your rich boss. Get a brain cell.
doofusgerms 2 years ago
Watch the Obama Deception then start studying Austrian economics. Bush and Obama work for the same masters.
Lyndehouse 2 years ago
lyndehouse
there is nothing about obama that relects the austrian school of economics influence. can you even name ONE economist from this school? prob not. what they advocate is separation of business and state. that is true capitalism.
larissan04 2 years ago
Dude I am an Austrian economist and studied economics at the undergraduate level with professors dedicated to the Chicago School. I am a devotee of the philosophy and have been for over a decade. You obviously misunderstood my post. At least it sounds like we are on the same page. Obama is not for the Austrian school he is Keynesian shit!
Lyndehouse 2 years ago
i did misunderstand your post. yes, obama is a keynesian, but he also hates capitalism and has more then a marxist influence in his world view. however, as thomas sowell recently noted, obama's action have been more of a fascist nature, in that there is private ownership of business but it is controlled by the gov.
larissan04 2 years ago