The REAL Desert Dogs, Episode 10: Mutiny at Corn Springs

[jebus5603]

thats my foldable table at 2:34 in the cabin, it was a pain in the a** so i left it for others to use lol, left 2005

[D00Mbringr94]

dude i give you props on finding that tortus, i just came back from a 3 day trip their for my 16th birthday :D

[bmgarcangel]

hmm...dude love the dog in the begining. so much better than the boring lion

[Thaamazinlazer]

That was some "Beautiful acting". You guys must do a lot of "Beautiful acting" all the time cause thats the way you guys are every time we hang out. I would go but you'd just get a lot of footage of me peeing, slurring my words, and sleeping thats my "Beautiful acting". I only act like a alcoholic all the time. Ben's rebellion was to not wear a shirt in the truck.

[lethalvb01]

Most of what we do is NOT acting. It is how we are. We should do more actual acting.

[redchango]

that's dwayne, ben. He's just messin' around.

[lethalvb01]

I should have known better. I didn't look at the username! That Douche bag!

[bapyou]

Did you guys drive past the campground to the road junction where some guy lives with his family? He's kind of a nutcase. (Or so I was told by some of the folks at Desert Center.) There are signs on his house saying "KEEP OUT" "NO TRESPASSING" etc.

I wanted to knock on his door to ask for directions, but I thought he might shoot me!

LOL

[redchango]

All the cabins we came across were abandoned. I seem to recall the 'No Trespassing' signs. If it's the same place, the guy is gone now.

[bapyou]

"All the cabins we came across were abandoned. I...recall...'No Trespassing' signs. If it's the same place, the guy is gone now."

The place where the guy lived with his family was at a crossroads where two roads come together, up the road beyond where the "geologists" cabin you filmed is located.

I think the guy was real paranoid, and that's why he lived way the hell away from everyone. He had a wife...a couple of kids. I saw his young daughter when I drove up there about 10 years ago.

[redchango]

There was another 2-story cabin a little further up the road, and that was abandoned. It was locked up. In the back of the cabin was what looked like an attempt at a mine.

[bapyou]

Also, on the road out to Corn Springs, you guys drove through a nice area of very well-developed desert pavement. It's somewhat extensive in the area before you drive back into the canyon. After leaving pavement, you drive through a small dry wash, and then you come up on a sort of falt uland area. That is where the desert pavement area is located. it's on both sides ofthe road back to Corn springs campground.

[bapyou]

Should read: "and then you come up on a sort of upland area."

[bapyou]

I get that you guys are just having fun, but, you didn't show a whole lot of Corn Springs in this video.

I camped at Corn Springs on a hot June night some years ago...a pack of coyotes came through the canyon down below the campground about 1 a.m. howling like they were the voices from Hell shrieking to get out. I've read subsequently that coyotes howl in a pack when they've killed some sort of prey - kind of as a celebration.

I also saw a small owl in the campground.

[redchango]

We actually had a script of a few things we wanted to cover, however certain events prevented us from doing most of that. You know how drama goes.

The next day we took off for the Lost Lake, which is close to Hinkley. And that video is coming up.

That's cool that the coyotes came down through by your camp. I'd like to get a coyote on film one day. Thanks for your comments.

[bapyou]

"I'd like to get a coyote on film one day."

I videod a coyote slinking around a debris basin in the Sunland part of L.A. late one afternoon earlier this year. The video is on my channel. The quality is not very good - hand-held and coarse resolution on my cheap camera. Full title of the video is 'coyotes | Zachau Debris Basin | Sunland (L.A.) | 9 Mar 2008'. Cheers.

[bapyou]

"The next day we took off for the Lost Lake, which is close to Hinkley."

Hinkley? West of Barstow? There's a Harper Dry Lake near there, where they have a solar facility, but I've never seen 'Lost Lake' on the map. I have topo maps that cover all the Mojave and there is no Lost Lake in the vicinity of Hinkley. The only Lost Lake on the Mojave D maps is in the Owlshead Mountains, south end of Death Valley. Is that where you went? That is real remote country there, about 30 miles one way.

[redchango]

Hinkley is actually just west of Barstow. We had to drive for quite a while. And the Lost Lake is in the Black Mountain Wilderness, not too far from Inscription Canyon (not sure if you're familiar with that place.)

[bapyou]

Hinkley west of Barstow. Yes.

I know Black Mountain Wilderness and Inscription Canyon from maps only. I own all of the 1:100,000 scale USGS maps covering that area. I don't see any feature named Lost Lake. There is a Superior Lake, but no Lost Lake. Where do you get the name? Where is it?

[redchango]

You might see it a little easier via satellite. Do you have Google Earth? About 5 miles southeast (across the mountain) of Inscription Canyon, you'll see the dry lake. It is called the Lost Lake.

[bapyou]

I see the dry lake that you're talking about on the map (Cuddeback Lake USGS 1:100,000 scale quadrangle), and I also found it on Google Earth. The name Lost Lake, however, does not appear on either. The only formally named Lost Lakes are located in the Owlshead Mtns (south end of Death Valley) and in the San Andreas fault zone in Lone Pine Canyon west of I-15 and the Cajon Pass. The name for the dry lake that you visited must be an informal name. Where did you learn the name?

[redchango]

Bill Mann's guide to 50 interesting and mysterious places in the Mojave. plus, if you google the words, with the quotation marks, "Black Mountain Wilderness" "lost lake", you'll see a link that refers to it the same. One of our earlier videos is at the Lost Lake too. I agree that it is an informal name, however we couldn't find another name for it. It is a fitting name, though.

[bapyou]

"I agree that it is an informal name"

I don't mean to be a pedant, but there is actually a government agency called The Board of Geographic Names, which oversees the names that appear on official government maps, i.e. USGS topographic maps. There are specific rules that a name for a feature must meet in order for the name to be official. That said, of course, anyone can call any place or feature any name they like. Usage by local residents establishes a name.

[bapyou]

Looking at Google Earth, I see an even smaller and more remote dry lake bed about 3.5 miles NNE of the 'Lost Lake' on top of the Black Mountain lava flows at Lat 35 deg 11' 14" N, Lon 117 deg 06' 49" W. Getting to that one would be something.

You guys should try to get to the other Lost Lake in the Owlshead Mtns at the south end of Death Valley NP at 35 deg 45' 06", 116 deg 49' 32". That is one of the most remote places you could find in the Mojave. Check it out on Google Earth.

[bapyou]

I've driven the Lockhart Road down from the Cuddeback Lake basin between Fremont Peak and the Gravel Hills past the Harper Lake solar array - all to the west of Black Mountain. A very rough, little-traveled route. I made a vid of that trip if you have the time.

[bapyou]

Hey, is this the Corn Springs off of the 10 Freeway in Riverside County/Chuckwalla Mountains? Or is it some other Corn Springs?

[redchango]

yes sir, this is it.