XXXchurch: Nightline Porn Debate (part 9/10)

[danieljohn007]

i can't believe people supporting the porn people.....

[rockmuzik23]

its funny how everyones mocking the christians saying oh this is bad for us as well lets ban then. They never said anything about banning anything they are talking about why it is a probably and not to buy into the lie, they are trying to help people and inform them not ban anything...

[TDS4UT]

Eating fast foods can be addicting. Those foods are not healthy for people. Why don't we ban fried foods?

[JayJewels93]

It's so sad to see such a beautiful girl in such a terrible industry believing all these lies Ron Jeremy tells her...

[tyronelasersynth]

Brooooo i should be on that fucking panel, watching all that middle class capitalist scum defending pornography(with the audience laughing in the background like its some kind of trivial matter)makes me really fucking sick...i would totally rip into that sack of shit, only reason that Craig and the other guy are being so polite is because they are Christians!

[ROBNTHROB]

Both are selling a fantasy. But the church has suppressed man and raped and touch little children. I don't and can not see a problem with porn. Porn is a job as like working at McDs. If you did movies and did modeling then you made a choice that is to affect your life. Their is always bad apples that are unstable at any job and its their own fault.

[perfectchronic]

you cause yourself to do it. it's just like justifying yourself killing someone and saying God told you to do it.

[Mplaysbeatlab]

I respect anybody who does what he really wants to do in life, whether its right or wrong..theres nothing like spending every minute of your life doing what u love...it doesnt even feel like a job...a lot of people out there live 2 lives cus they dont have the balls to go for what they really wanna do..

[jesusboy4ril]

@Mplaysbeatlab most people go into porn just because they need money!! Not because they love it! No one will love to be urinated on by people they dont even know

[Mplaysbeatlab]

@jesusboy4ril i dont condone that kind of porn....and trust me if i end up doing porn it wont b just because of the money....it will b mostly cuz i cant fuck enough pussy...and in real life unless u live with your girl u r not gonna have sex as much as u want to...

[zippy476]

@Mplaysbeatlab Kido I hate to break it to you but living with your "girl" won't get you as much sex as you want.

[Mplaysbeatlab]

@zippy476 What's the difference teacher?

[zippy476]

@Mplaysbeatlab More worthless shit in your house then you could ever imagine.

[Mplaysbeatlab]

@zippy476 what is worthless? living with your girl or the sex part of living with your girl?

[zippy476]

@Mplaysbeatlab Well said uncle Ted.

[mabeg111]

No you dumbfuck whore, people in real life dont have hardcore sex. Porn is not real, no guy can last 2 hours when meeting a hot chick for the first time(extremely extremely rare if there is); maybe 2 minutes. But porn has created a fantasy world that is not real. Noone fckn has 14 inch dicks, noone has 50 inch wide asses, its all fuckn fake and fantasy.

[shatwood]

@mabeg111

You didn't respond at all to what she was talking about. When she said "hardcore sex", she wasn't implying that men go home, magically grow 14 inch dicks, and have sex for two hours.

[oliviamikhael20]

am just disappointed how people are actually defending porn.. not knowing how much it effect their love relationship. which makes sense I guess, cause once God is not in the picture, there is no such thing as right or wrong or what is appropriate or what is not, what is good what is bad or what is healthy or what is LOVE. so may be i shouldn't be that surprised !!! BUT IT IS SAD .. even animals have limits to sex (they have a season to meet)!

[mabeg11]

Ron had no answer and said a dumb shit like "you buy at mcdonalds" How pathetic.

[mabeg11]

Monique is a dumb ass bitch. Everything stops when a disease hits. What the fuck will you do then, you wont do porn anymore even if you fukn wanted to, ill tell you that. And what did that get you in the end and watch some dumb ass idiot saying pleassure, haha. What has this world came to?

[slutbucketism]

1:10 sick cap you loser

[sigurjong]

That whole "porn is causing me to do this" argument is so incredibly weak. This reminds me of some demented teenager saying he shot a cop because he listened to Ice-T's Cop Killer song. The people are the problem. Have you ever seen a gun walk down the street and shoot someone? lol.

[MrSuperstar08]

working at mcdonald's is degrading?? I didnt kno u get urinated & ejaculated on n da face at mcdonald's!!

[chayoto]

A few things about that word, "degrading". Ron certainly makes a point when he brigns up all these examples of women who end up running the business or even diversifying. I see no degradation in that. The other thing someone mentioned is that working at McDonalds is degrading. No, it is not: people, who might otherwise be just as complex, deep, inspired, clever, funny and interesting as the next person might end up FEELING like they are less, just because others are too quick to misjudge them.

[Superphilipp]

I could have kissed the guy at 3:50 who actually brought up confirmation bias. THANK YOU, STRANGE BLACK DUDE!

[christo930]

Craig has avoided nearly every question that was asked to him. He sucks.

[JusticeZombie]

dont like porn, dont watch it.

[ch0s3nd3r]

I'm not trying to be rude but Ron and Monique looked moronic @ 1:52 but I could forgive that if they weren't postulating such one dimentional arguements. Maybe to them this comment is as much a degredation as what they do as jobs.

[yootesa1515]

right on 1:25

[VeggieTrunks]

That guy in the cap made the DUMBEST comment. Working at mcdonalds is degrading but when you leave McDonalds, you are not gonna be seen all over the damn internet screwing people.

[bcn533]

@VeggieTrunks Except for, in the case of the mother of three, it may be essentially impossible to leave McDs. And so what if you screwed some people on camera and later people see it. It is your repressive and judgmental attitude is a major source of problems here.

[Anth150]

"How is it not degrading for a single mother with 3 kids flipping burgers for $17"

"BECAUSE IT'S NOT PORN!!!!!!11!11!!!"

[gangstable]

seriously these students.....

[VeggieTrunks]

@gangstable

This is Yale? Wow, I can totally understand how George Bush passed his classes...-.- that guy in the cap is dumb as hell.

[Cheshykid]

Sucks that the best question from the guy detailing that all lower-middle class work is degrading was brushed aside

[fmbighair]

@Cheshykid I agree.

[Cheshykid]

@fmbighair are you the guy who asked the question? (or his mom) ;) no just kidding. Yeah I was just shocked because I thought the question provided insight into the deeper issues of the topic, so I was thinking "Here we go" and then they just ignored it. :/

[seaweed810]

the guys who are anti-pornography are so much more composed and respectful. the pro-pornography people keep interrupting craig. They are desperate to try to get their point of view across

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

anti porn morons people are the only people leaving comments on this vid you bible nut heads

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@mattowarrior you moron

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@kroki2007 sex is not nicotune you moron

[TanllwythNDewin]

I work in an adult store, and most of the people who buy movies are couples who say themselves that after 20 some odd years being married, they just need something new to spice up their relationship. Porn within good taste is not as bad as craig is making it seem

[fleothick]

@TanllwythNDewin Thanks for info, your are the first person to admit you work the shops.

[HCChef85]

Dude at 3:27 - Genius!

[HopefulHypocrite]

@mattowarrior Good point we should ban fryers too!

[positivesecret]

those guys are brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ocelot911]

It's funny how the porn stars rely on the audience

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@Ocelot911 because there winning

[Gary500]

theyre kinkier than we are lol

[jros83]

this asshole wears a baseball cap, indoors, while wearing a suit... REALLY GUY? Since when does going to an ivy league school mean you have to look ridiculous.

[jros83]

@jros83 1:06

[YTConsulting]

1:10-1:48

Wow, this guy is a dumbass. No wonder he is at Yale and not another Ivy. I bet his dad is glad that his son is attending the father's alma mater! He's going to be broke when it comes to ibanking with that type of thinking.

[xoxtru3lov3]

I feel like the guy who said "What about the single mother with three kids making minimum wage...". What Donny answered was legit...not a cop out. This is a debate on porn. Don't go off on a random tangent about another social issue, because yes it is horrible for all those single parents on welfare, so horrible and we have a lot of services for them and awareness debates as well. This debate is for porn, we aren't lessening any other moral issue, just focusing on one.

[chaingang90]

My response to the guy in the cap woulda been... "There is no difference, and I pray that someone does what we do, for that industry"

[kirkoswald21]

haha im watching it all the way through

[galbro48026]

that was a good example where a woman doesnt want to give a man oral sex, ok no problem. there are many different way to express feelings for each other and sex. but does watch porn where someone does on TV harm that person. is somehow that TV porn show going to force that guy to make his girlfriend to give him oral sex? if it does then he shouldnt watch porn! but other guys they will respect her.

[JiggerBooWigger]

2:23 was that Savanna Samson?

[HopefulHypocrite]

Yes it Hurts some. It hurts some girls by having end up in diapers. It hurts plenty of users who end up addicts or in prostitution or encounters which in deadly diseases. It just does. Sorry it's not clean. It's not clean like alchohal isn't clean. I know plenty of drinkers who have lost friends and still drink and think their is nothing is wrong with drinking. It doesn't mean it didn't ruin someoens life. it did. who cares how scientific it is. It happens. Do you need a scientific study to see?

[jros83]

@HopefulHypocrite for every person ruined by alcohol there is one who isnt and enjoys it without ruining their life. same goes for porn.

[kwanhui1990]

con porn side came up with many anecdoctal and many stories but not based on scientific research -- meaningless......

[1THESS15]

as for the last guys question, if XXX Church should put a section on their site for the "positive porn testimonials" to create "cause and effect", then Ron Jeremy and the crew should put testimonials on all of his/their productions of the "negative porn testimonials.

[galbro48026]

Why should ron jeremy do this they are not on the attack though its XXX church that is. that is what that guy meant in his comment on cause and effect.

[getsomeboy321]

porn will always prevail!

[bestfriendsforeva]

This argument would've been more equal if more people in the audience were "anti-porn". It seems as though the majority of the people who asked questions or made comments in the audience were pro-porn, and therefore targeted their arguments towards the "anti-porn" side. I mean, there are tons of questions that the "pro-porn" side would've had difficulty answering as well.

[nubbs]

@bestfriendsforeva

"this argument would've been more equal if" the two "anti-porn" speakers weren't such utter morons

[Azrael24]

While I don't think they are morons, they arguments could have been better articulated in terms of how addiction happens and the effects of this stuff on your mind.

[bonfire5555]

@bestfriendsforeva like?

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@bestfriendsforeva not realy

[zippy476]

@bestfriendsforeva That is because "pro-porn" is the majority of people. Just like the majority of people understand climate change is real, yet you will always getting goofy people who come out of the wood work and try and swim against fact and logic.

[jesusboy4ril]

@zippy476 although you claim pro-porn is a majority of people which I dont agree with. Any good debate should have equal number of people from both sides

[zippy476]

@jesusboy4ril You may not agree but the numbers don't like. If you look up the statistical profits made just in this quarter alone and then look at the static's for porn consumption just in the US alone you will see that it is overwhelmingly the majority of the population.

As to your other point, yes and no. If you invite one hundred random stranger to a debate and the majority happens to agree with one side over the other that isn't really stacking the deck. It's just truth.

[zippy476]

@zippy476 Or "popular" truth.

[jesusboy4ril]

@zippy476 that someone watches porn doesnt mean they are pro-porn. Many people are addicted to porn. They really want to stop but they just find it very hard. I dont think those people are random strangers. It must have been planned

[zippy476]

@jesusboy4ril No people are addicted to jerking off. Porn is a visual masturbatory aid. Masturbation is just for a quick release, having sex is a lot more complicated no matter what kind you are having.

Tell what does porn addiction actually mean? How does this ruin lives?

[odfsigjodsgj]

There are people who care and try to protect animals and the rain forest then as humans we shouldn't hurt other human's lives. When it comes to other human beings people like Monik say that "they are 18 yrs old, that's the legal age"; as though at the age of 18 we all were able to make our lives greatest desitions. Ron says that people drink excessive alcohol that's bad, why not stop that. Righ they shouldn't do that, same with watching porn, b/c it hurts people's lives like Donny's and others.

[sharpnickelz]

The key here is that is hurts "SOME" peoples lives, just as eating disorders, prescription drug problems, being preoccupied by video games/TV/any hobby as a form of escape. We need to start realizing that people use various forms of entertainment as a form of escape and the actual form of entertainment stems from what we desire, what we fantasize about that we don't get from our real lives. Some men will never receive falacio from their wives, but they may desire it enough to watch Porn.

[timrupp]

3:38 Bahaha! i love when people take the bible out of context, tickles me pink when they think they are smart.

[Azrael24]

Right! This dude who said that is an idiot. I love people who are so smart they are dumb.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@timrupp hahah your a dumbass kill yourself

[OppositionalForce]

lol, i may be alone on this, but i think both sides are very poorly agrued.

[vizcacha5]

Nobody flips patties at mcdonalds. Thats old stuff.

[afrobeat2]

ron is jewish so his point of view is just about making money. its a cultural thing. money is the god! money will ruin the world. just wait and see.

[flamingbassdude]

Love of money or greed not money itself theres nothing wrong with having money to support yourself or even be wealthy but greed is a major problem.

[clipsryan]

leave god (christian god atleast) outa this because we all know he/it's a hateful asshole that colors his hate in "love you neighbor unless they're gay or work on the Sabbath! If Craig want's to help those who didn't chose there path before thinking about it, that's fine but don't attack an entire industry because you wanna be the hero and justify their blame on the industry.

[Mattycnw]

i hate how americans say creggggg... cregg... its craig.. as in c-r-a-y-g... fools!!

[bonafidehustla77]

I just wanna hit craig upside the head and knock some sense in to him.

[kholdphlames]

wtf is happening?!?!? anti-porn is supposed to trump pro-porn!!! a lot of factors are against porn and yet anti-porn lost this time BADLY

[ak1986]

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

[juniwilliams]

fuck u n ur god

[pudnanewell]

I don't think Moniqiue is pretty enough or vouluptious enough to be a pornstar.Shes got the whore part down.Thats about it. Only the perverts that have no life,and masturbate to porn stick up for it. losers... I just want to slap the interviewer.

[SuchloserWanderer]

thank god i'm a lifeless loser

[pricer5]

That Monique chick is a dumb bitch. She has no idea what she is talking about. Very irrational.

[xHelpWantedx]

i so agree

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@pricer5 she's smarter then you

[henfred]

it seems like the only good arguments for porn come from the audience and not monique or ron...

[pats2fat]

agreed

[chazum0]

its 2 on what?...400? the majority are going to have the better questions

[GLeNss]

the 2 guys arguements are bad ofc the crowd is going to have better questions and plus it wasnt 400 only a few of them asked the questions. If thats the case where are his church peoples? or supporters? Why are they not in the audience.

[scentlessapprentice4]

I've noticed that, too.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@henfred pro porn wins

[melaniestevens]

I would rather flip burgers for 8 bucks an hour than be a millionaire porn star. The whole point of that is that money does not buy happiness.

[d3u1d4e]

Good point. Neither does sex!

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@melaniestevens lol moron

[legalbeagle26]

As one of my favourite social commentators, Dennis Prager, says, "College is a bastion of Moral idiocy!" Not to say college is not good but you should guard your values when you go. I am in college and I am faced with a relativistic, indifferent, "if it feels good do it" mentality. As Donny said "Just because you can doesn't mean you should." And by the way I am a sex addict, it is ruining my life!

[coachtaskmaster]

Dennis Prager, says, "College is a bastion of Moral idiocy!" Not to say college is not good but you should guard your values when you go. I am in college and I am faced with a relativistic, indifferent, "if it feels good do it" mentality.

Well said brother. I take it you have a good relationship with your parents? Otherwise, your values are likely to be shaped in school. If we trace back 50 years, and look at the ivory towers of education, we can see that this is not only true, but worse.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@legalbeagle26 thats yoor problem jackass

[MesserschmittBf109g6]

The anti-porn sides argument is always the same: "I have a letter from someone who was NOT happy, imagne that, all porn must be bad"

[derrike50]

at least they have an argument

[McGriff99]

bahahahahahahaha!

[DontWetYourself]

Haha, as I continue through watching all these vids the views go down, lol. I admire what XXX Church is doing. Theyre really helping a lot of people

[jros83]

@DontWetYourself No they aren't. They are making no difference whatsoever. And neither is Ron. Porn fans will remain porn fans. Those against will remain against. No one's doing anything here.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@DontWetYourself  porn prople lost the debate badly lol

[brotherkito]

@DontWetYourself views go down because people are googling Monique Alexander or clicking on the vids to the right

[ThisOneRocks]

Take it away CRAIG