Windows 95 on MFM HDD

[force311999]

the 386 DX 40 board I had ran win95 great with 16 meg ram and a good 1 gig drive

do you have the co processor installed ????

my board had the CPU soldered in but a co. socket that I put in a co. from a dead board

[wiimancool1]

I love the music you put on your vids (NO JOKE) (:

[SappinSentry]

Wow, idiots.

If you knew the true cultural history behind older/vintage computers, you'd understand why there was this specific music. Music from very well made, popular DOS demos.

If you want to hear a hard drive make noise, GO FIND A FUCKING VIDEO MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT!

Ugh.

[psyduck1539]

Another video ruined by music.

[kargaroc386]

"Windows 95 starting on 77 MB MFM hard disk drive from 80's"

Learn English.

[matt47110815]

Music sounds like a tracker module (S3M, XM, IT)

[malditafoca]

fuck up that music! i wanted to hear the hard drive... :(

[nzoomed]

that would be so slow to start up! lol

[asassinoooo]

... and the polygonal sphere on Second Reality - Future crew !!!!!

[asassinoooo]

I love this music, I remember it's the final scene of the Crystal Dreams II demo by Triton! *_*

[crashbandicoot4everr]

hdd brand and model plz??

[bachterman]

i miss the spinning disc sound from old times.

[jdcrispe95]

whats the maximum MB/s ??

on my old 6GB HDD its 1.2MB/s :D

[Orksdagood123]

Lol thats a thriller.

[007agent0007]

Music in this video = #FAIL

[tenkikun]

Woow! try to boot Doom 2 at the same time! xD if you can you are hardcore

[kakureru]

just because you have the music to use does not make it good music, I was hoping to hear that MFM go nuts

[strikefreedomx20a]

A HD that size could look a freaking 10 to 30 TB these modern days. I wouldnt mind having a HD like that on my pc. Think of all the space. Take forever to fill. :D

[boost43534]

old 77 MB hard disk from 80's, it is very slow.

[DiskTwenty]

Beligerant Idiot! Why do you have that obnoxious music taking away from the hard disk's access sounds? The whole point of this video was the hard disk and then booting Windows 95 off of it. That music is an idiotic and incompetent attempt at conveying they main idea of this video.

[the731272]

this is the rolling stones computer (ever heard that song?)

[the731272]

and actually i think this particular type of drive is esdi

[CCEX]

@the731272 Actually, this is a Seagate ST-4096 MFM drive. 1024 cylinders, 9 heads, 17 sectors/track. Most 386 PCs had a preset hard drive type for this. Sometimes the ST-4096 could be low-level formatted at 26 sectors per track with an RLL contoller (type 1 in BIOS) to get about 116 MB. Back in the day (late '80s/very early '90s), a company called Perstor made 31 sector/track ARLL controllers which would format the same drive to about 155 MB.

[the731272]

@CCEX yeah i know that now i mixed this drive up with the ibm 70mb esdi drive

[the731272]

its an ibm

[thetooth54]

This is by far the most productive thing i've seen all day, good job sir!

[PimpinBassie2]

MFM HD's have a very distinctive sound. Why that stupid music?

[richardmaudsley77]

@PimpinBassie2 Typical PC user. Ignorant of real computer culture.

[Vintagecomputer]

I have a 386 DX 40 processor based computer with a generic motherboard and some old MFM and RLL hard drives with respective controllers.

All my HDs are low capacity (10 - 40MB max.), and very low performance. Tandon or Seagate brand.

I couldn't install Windows 95 in these HDs. I don't have sufficient free space for this.

But I don't understand why the Windows 95 recognize the MFM HD on System properties like a Generic IDE Hard Drive or, the W95 not list the hardware correctly?

[odv000]

@Vintagecomputer

it is not error. first IDE was controller + MFM disk in one case. software interface (registers & commands) are same and drivers are the same

[jmw0284]

@Vintagecomputer Good too hear that one more 40mhz 386 is still around. I also had one of these beasts in my machine untill the drive self destructed.

The computer is still quite active with 32mb of ram and a 40mb HDD

[footinmouthindustrys]

what ghost software is that?

[phoxetis]

that music brings back memories, sounds like future crew indeed, but what demo/song?

[phoxetis]

first part I mean. BTW did MFM support more than 1 HDD on the controller? I only had 1 HDD back in the day, 20 MB, w00t :)

[Dms12444]

MFM was the industry standard adapter for hard drives from 1976-1987. It was even the standard used on all IBM PC's. Compare it to today's SATA.

[DRNEGOLICIS]

whats MFM? ive herd of scsi ide and sata but not that

[GlycerinZ]

me either, never ever heard of it.. and i've been into computers for along time and know pretty much all history

[SockEwing]

No you don't.. MFM was the standard in the 80s.

[GlycerinZ]

must have been pretty ghetto

[JesdaG]

LOL... sure

[GlycerinZ]

I didn't start getting into computers until 1997, so obviously MFM was before my time. And if you don't believe that I know computers and am a PC Tech, haha, I don't really care.

[JesdaG]

Just giving you a hard time :)

[VideoGamer945]

mother-fucking-massive Hard Disc Drive

[DRNEGOLICIS]

lol good one that made me fall out my chair laughing lmao

[CheezeCracker]

5-Stars for FUTURE CREW!

[mikebhasi]

i see the hd is really big good thing you put the battery for size comparison...

[mikebhasi]

0:25 what's with the norton ghost????????

[Railfan02]

Next time no music so I dont have to mute the video....it was still good sound-less

[MtnDewman841]

I have windows 2000

[hanrinch]

that things is huge.......

[Messerschmitt262a2a]

how did you connect that at your board? does the board has onboard ide-controllers?

[blitzermiman]

Wow, can't believe no one caught this. It's an MFM drive not IDE. There is an addon card and 2 seperate cables to connect it, plus your regular 4 connector power wire.

[Messerschmitt262a2a]

i know how to connect an mfm hard drive!!! but its very difficult to connect an mfm hard drive to a board with onboard ide because normally ide and mfm aren´t working together... i asked this because i have an ols board with onboard ide but i don´t want to use ide i want to use an mfm add in card with the hdd

[7771062]

Удивил!

[TeleTappiProductions]

can you tell whats that music playing in this video?

[SHOOTANGAEMS]

It's the first part of Crystal Dream 2, followed by the beginning of Second Reality.

[deejaykike]

crusader no remorse tune?

[RickTommy]

Yay! I'm the 1000th person to view this video! Oh, and try installing 98 on that thing!

[dushanostoich]

thanks for the help but the hard drive is broken this is the error mesage : (hard drive fail 80)

[dushanostoich]

I have FMF HDD too but please tell me how to configure it from BIOS?

[willisxiii]

In BIOS if you have an ESDI hdd, you should chose type 1, otherwise, choose the one with the right cyl/head/sct datas. Sometimes it's neccessary to format at low level when moving them into a different machine, or when connecting to a different controller.

[dushanostoich]

this is the HDD but I do not know witch one of the cyl/head/sct to choose i54 . photobucket . com / albums / g113 / IBMDOS/P3040137 . jpg

[willisxiii]

Okay, you have a very reliable drive! The fields on the white label are the known bad sectors that the test at the end of manufacturing showed. You will need them when low level formatting. For the BIOS setting you will need these: 615 cyl, 4 hd, 17 sec, -1 wpcomp, and 666 for park. Type 6 will do from the standard types. you should clear the J7 jumper's 1-2 position on your drive for daisy chaining, and put a jumper on the 11-12 pins if use it as the first drive on the controller.

[dushanostoich]

thanx I will try :)

[willisxiii]

As I can see, the resistor is not removable, so you can use it only as a single drive, or in daisy chain as the last drive in the system (you can't do that configuring this as the drive 0 and connect other drives on the same cable, in this case, daisy chaining is not possible)

[DURAMATRIX112]

0.o wow thts cool that it runs on that old seagate. awsome!

[Messerschmitt262a2a]

lol i´d like to hear the hard drive... thats amazing!

[esraesuocs]

I know it was said that 386DX/40 was

as fast or slightly faster than 486SX/25,

but I had both and sorry 486SX/25 was

10% faster in virtually every benchmark.

Both had 128K L2 cache.

[feniksslv]

Boot time almost as long as Windows Vista on modern PC!

[DOSlogic]

lol 386 computer can't boot from CD

[windowspiratato]

@DOSlogic dos + mscdex

[Dant2142]

@windowspiratato Not just that but it seems he PXE booted the Win 95 install which most of the old network cards were perfectly capable of.

[nickitas87]

@DOSlogic why?:((((((