The rape scene of Daenerys in the book was actually tamer than in the tv show. I was actually surprised by that, especially considering she's, like, thirteen in the books.
I agree with Cenk (for once, lol) about the rape being true to the setting. The book is fantasy, yes, but it's based on Medieval Europe. Rape was a sad, sad, common fact of life.
I think putting ALL of the rape in the show would be too much. It's one thing to read about it, another to see it.
Actually, in the book Khal Drogo asks "no?" as he grabs her arms and Daenerys says "yes" and puts his hand between her legs, so if the series are different from the book it was not toned down, at least in that part.
Getting touched up by your brother, humping the Queen in the tower, 3 guys trying to hump a bitch at once, a dwarf having some fun in a whore house, rape on a cliff by your new hubby who doesn't speak English. Wait what? The first episode you say?!
i am 27. i am agree all points and i want read it but i cant wait but audiobook £22.95 next week i will get it . i love tv show but i dont like sex scenes. but i love story of Game Of Thrones
The author of the book(s) actually had a lot of creative input for the show, and I'm sure he realized that reading about rape is different than WATCHING rape. I'm glad he has already taken this stance, because these things don't get any tamer as the series progresses.
While it was of course toned down, I don't think it needed the extra nudity. What was shown, I believe, was essential to the story (except for that one scene involving the two whores and Littlefinger). The rest, I wouldn't have cared it it made it in or not. I don't believe that anything was removed due to censorship, only budget.
As for violence, again, budget. I would have loved to see that battle at the end of the movie, but it would have been too expensive for a TV show.
The reason HBO (and Game of Thrones) is awesome is that if forces Americans to confront shit they are uncomfortable watching. More cock shots, more rape, more castration, and more white people not getting what they want. Game of thrones has strong female characters, it confront class, gender, sexuality, race, religious, and political issues through a unique and artistic lens.
@levewitz My point was that its strong social critique and deviation from established tv and movie tropes separates it from other fantasy shows. That is, GoT is not campy because it's not an easy-to-watch, formulaic, immediate-satisfaction, feel-good, forces of black vs. white series. It makes you think, it makes you uncomfortable, and it does so while weaving an engrossing story.
Mass rape was an extremely common occurrence in warfare for most of history, but I get very uncomfortable with any rape scenes in television or movies. So I'm glad the series toned it down for modern audiences. I also agree with Ana about the lesbian sex scene, if it had been a guy-on-guy sex scene the male viewers would have freaked out. And there are too may tits displayed for no reason at all. (Btw I'm a straight guy.)
I watched this recently, partially due to the positive comments made about it here. But I must say, quite disappointing. The story felt cliche far to often. The storytelling seemed contrived, like it was just attempting to fulfill the motions for certain conclusions. The effects and set extensions are quite good for a TV series tho.
And I don't mind the sex in itself, but in the books every sex scene seemed relevant to the plot. And the series, especially in the beginning, seemed to treat it more like, "look, boobies!"
But other than that it's still a great show, and probably one of the best book-to-screen adaptions ever.
What's missing from this discussion is the fact that in the book Drogo DOESN'T rape Daenerys. He's really gentle with her until she actually submits to him. And this is something I think the series screwed up. Also in the scene earlier where Viserys caresses Daenerys breasts... in the book he twists her nipples until it hurts. These are just tiny details but I think they're important in establishing the characters.
Am I the only straight girl who loves the lesbian sex *nods head* it's good.... but I also love the male gay sex especially if the guys are hot yummy :)
Apparently it bothers her that the tv adaptation isn't full of rape . Having read the book, I must say it's nothing more than toned down porn. But according to these idiots, it's a great piece of literature
What part of these people is sexy on these shows, in the skeem of things.... the reality of it all is they fuckin didnt bathe for months or shave & probably stank of ass n dick n dirty balls n dirty vaghole... Am I the only one missing the its so sexy part. Their fuckin pieholes probably stank like they have been chewing on a piece of turd for months since they didnt brush their pieholes. I know sex sells, but when contemplating the reality of their situation its fucking gross!! ~pukes~ XD
@AOTPradio First off if I had a gf I would be a lezbo, as to the me making sense & you referring to your lack of an actual partner with a pulse so you resort to self help as me being a teenager is a sad attempt for a putdown. Not everyone big guy needs some visual bullshit to get inspired during the act is what I was pointing out & it was MY view on the matter. Go watch some midget porn so you can feel better about your tiny cock & stop trolling me with your pallin tard-like speaches bitchnutz!
@bla34112 I watched the first 9 episodes after hearing Cenk say it's a top 10. If you like the medieval type setting then you'll probably really like the show. It's got a good story and lots of action. I don't think it's as over the top sexual as they make it out to be here, but it is really violent haha.
@bla34112 I've watched the first few episodes and I wouldn't recommend it. The sex scenes are over the top and constant to the point that it interrupts the flow of the story/episode. Additionally there is the story itself - it appears to be a ho-hum generic ripoff of the Elric of Melnibone series. A little predictable.
Is it just me or is Ana always complaining about lesbian sex scenes being too long? She said the same about Black Swan and I went in expecting that the sex scene would be ridiculously over-stretched but what the hell, it wasn't that long at all. I get it, though, she doesn't have to like watching lesbian sex. But I have a little schadenfreude for her because I always feel uncomfortable during straight sex scenes. x) Nice to see a straight girl squirming in turn. Mwahaha
It's ironic that the rape scene they're talking about was actually A LOT TAMER in the book and had the Khal be very tender with Dany. But for the purposes of the pilot episode I think they couldn't afford to make the Khal be that nice that fast and they had to sustain the tension that he's gonna mistreat Dany.
That was actually fucking incomfortable to watch for me. I mean, there are two hot chicks going at it and this guy is rambling about how he's hung up on this chick, that is not that attractive to begin with, and how he's figured out who he is and how fucking people up is his lot in life 'cause, to paraphrase " if you ain't cheating you ain't winning."
@trentWHY I thought that scene was great. We learned about Littlefinger and the whole prostitution metaphor for controlling and manipulating people was really cool and fit in with the rest of the story.
Plus, the sex in the show is not any more gratuitous than in the books.
They beheaded the guy from LOTR. In fact, the two recognizable actors have now been killed off. Cheap trick to get people to watch. Although the little person is a great actor and I've only ever seen him in a few things. He's my favorite character so far.
@Deepstarr7020 I mean the darker people are portrayed to be beast-like rapists who will stop at nothing to quench their hedonistic and savage nature. It's racism in fiction.
How did you spot the "darker people"? Are you looking to see if blacks are included otherwise you'd feel excluded? If so, why is that people can't relate to a fictional character if they're not the same race? I've noticed that amongst the racially conscience.
@Deepstarr7020 I'm neither black nor brown, but it doesn't matter, as it's about portrayal. You can't just have the dark people raping and whites trying to tame them to do their bidding. That's racist.
You clearly didn't bother to use common sense or do research when watching the show b/c it is pretty much implied how the 'whites' are mighty fucked up on their own. And the kind of shit they start pulling the moment the War hinted at during the last episodes of the season truly starts, and expanded during the books, makes the Dothraki look like fucking amateurs. I'm talking about rapes, executions, torture of women and children, etc. take your pick.
There's a bunch of dark skinned people in the narrated world of George R.R Martin, among them the Dothraki who are total dicks. There's also a ton of people said to suffer those bastards.
@unabomberman Having a black rape a white girl with his hard ethnic cock, and having them act uncivilized overall is racism (remember the fucking and killing at the marriage ceremony?). Some Whites may engage in deviant behavior (incest, etc) but are portrayed as having at least a little class, while blacks are shown to ALL not have any. The white-black = civilized-savage dichotomy is VERY clear.
All you are saying is "I lost the argument so I'm gonna completely ignore your point and repeat myself."
The Dothraki are fucking savages. Deal with it. You know who suffer those fuckuing savages: Everyone in that region whose women they rape, kill, and whose cities they sack. Coincidently, eveyrone in that region is fucking BROWN. When does it become racist, then? When a white girl gets involved?
if you even bothered to do some basic research you'd have noticed that, and also, for season two you're gonna see the white fuckers of Westeros make the Dothraki look like fucking amateurs when the War breaks out and women and children get tortured, raped, and executed and have their homes taken away, etc.
You are looking at stuff through clouded glasses. Do some research instead of jumping to conclusions and truncating what could be a swell discussion.
@unabomberman My point is simply that though both whites and blacks/browns commit horrible crimes, only some whites do while ALL blacks are portrayed as savages. It becomes a question of why basically all the blacks are savages while only some of the whites are. Thus, it's racism.
The only racism is in your head because you focus on just one thing and completely shut your vision to the bigger picture. That's like saying that talking about the Mongols being a bunch of fucking savages when they sacked Russia, China, or Vietnam was racist--all of whom were of distinct ethnic backgrounds. Is that how it works?
Should I not compare the Mongols' savage culture to the Russians' culture in this case b/c they were whites and that's way too PC for you?
@unabomberman Well, the Mongols were, like any other peoples, both savage and civilized. For example, they were very tolerant of religious beliefs, and did not for the most part disrupt communities on foreign lands by settling on them (i.e. in Russia). The blacks/browns in GOT are ALL viewed as being rapists; the white women getting stuffed with raw black cock didn't help the racism, as it is many white peoples' worst fear.
Lack of research, again. Let's see: the Dothraki, like the Mongols at one time, did not settle either, they have their own cultural rules and taboos, their own religion, and they even have their own diplomacy, etc. Also, like the mongols, they pillage, conquer, rape, and enslave.
The only thing you show me is that you are ignorant and would rather remain so. You've made no logical point to support your argument other than black cocks and white girls, and even those aren't in context.
@unabomberman Well, even If I took your point about the mongols being barbaric, it would be tempered out by other browns/blacks not being barbaric. In GOT this is not the case, where blacks on the whole are portrayed more savage than whites. The episodes clearly illustrate this; don't engage in an abstract discussion based on the books, nerd. Look at what people are watching on their TVs.
Why don't you just admit that your argument sucked and you lost this? You can call me nerd if you want to, but that doesn't change the fact that you are way wrong on this and would rather be butthurt than use your head. Plus, you didn't even define properly what you mean by "Savagery." Does that same notion apply to the Sheep People that the Dothraki kill and take slaves from, or to Pentos of the Free Cities where a bunch of blacks and browns happen to live in?
@unabomberman In the end, it's all about portrayal, and I would maintain that a certain type of honor is portrayed as being whites only. People who watch GOT will see a black raping a white, and a black horde going to war against more civilized whites. You can quote the books all you want, but the average viewer will look at this as blacks being evil (it will stroke racial tension). Come back to reality!
Are you implying that your reality is, or should be, anyone else's reality? B/c that's just self absorbed.
All I'm seeing is you wanting me to see blacks, browns, or non-whites, as fucking monsters b/cthey live in tents and have no castles and do shit that is no less disturbing than what the supposed "nobles" will end up doing later on. Not every viewer has your exact cultural background nor your tendencies, so stop trying to impose them as the correct one on everyone else.
@TreatyOfTripoli The Horde are based on the Mongols (Who are central asian) not black. As far as I can remember I have not seen any group of people representing africans in this at all. Just another idiot with a persecution complex trying to stir up not existent shit.
@drzyklon06 I'm referring to the dark people in general. A large ethnic man ravaging a small white girl against her will with his immense feral cock is for many whites their greatest fear. Coupled with their war against whites, it's at the very least subliminal racism.
Actually in the first episode Khal Drogo actually turned on Dany. At first she was scared but then she realized that he was genuinely attracted to her and she actually enjoyed it. It wasn't rape... little research would help, especially since the books have been out for years.
About all the sex/rape scenes seem to have a purpose. The one with the young woman and the Dalthraki (sp?) seems to have purpose in the context of the scenario, as does the orgy during the wedding. People just have to stop going "ew, gross" every time and grow up, really.
Game of Thrones ranks as one of my favorite shows of all time, although the end of episode 9 left me dumbfounded and upset. Game of Thrones, Spartacus, and True Blood are currently my favorite running series, and I'm perfectly fine with the sex in all of them. Sometimes a little shock value makes you realize how good the show really is.
how can you compare a cheap, borderline homosexual (because of all the manflesh), no story, 300/Rome rip-off like Spartacus with Game of thrones. FUCK YOU!!! Spartacus sucks!
@105km So I make a perfectly valid opinion about what a few of my favorite shows and you say fuck ME? Go visit a psychward or something because you don't make a bit of sense. Me and many others would agree Spartacus is a great series, and is in no way a ripoff of Rome (I watched Rome and just no), yes it has a similar visual style to 300 but a better plot and everything else. Spartacus is better than 90 percent of the redundant trash on tv these days, that's my OPINION. Now fuck off
Spartacus Blood and Sand is fucking awesome show GTFOH, but Game of Thrones crushes all competitors.Everyone on the show delivers. Sean Bean just got stabed outside a bar recently, and he went back in the bar stitched his wound and had a fucking drink. He's the real deal.
Does anyone else remember the rape scene in "High Plains Drifter"? At the time the movie was made, that scene was VERY historical because it was common for men who lived rough lives to rape women. Now, I don't think even the best Hollywood writer could have the hero do that and get away with it? Now you NEVER see it unless it's on pay cable. There are two versions of the movie dealing with the rape. One has nudity, the other does not so it can be aired on TV. Now it has to be completely removed
I wonder if they're gonna show a flashback scene of Gregor raping Elia of Dorne, with her childrens blood and brains still clinging to his armor. That would shock the majority of the audience, I should think.
Leave it to Hollywood to kill anything cool (GoT, not rape)! Vampire used to be cool, but now they sparkle and wear purity rings! I don't think you could even call the wedding night scene a rape. I guess you could make an argument that she didn't want sex and had little choice in it, but she knew that it was needed to secure her marraige and make her brother king, so she DID allow it. If HBO sticks to the plot, I can live with less sex scenes as long as the important ones are there
This show is awesome. The sex never bothers me. Like Cenk said, it's set in a medieval world. That's how things worked.
The best books, TV series and movies draw heavily from historic events while incorporating it's own fantasy world. Game of Thrones does that very well. The sex, especially the prostitution, really help the world feel realistic to the time period it is based on in real human history.
I love this show but I can't watch rape scenes without being uncomfortable. It makes my Vagina hurt. I wouldn't be able to watch the show if there was more rape.
@cjwright79 Game of Thrones is brilliantly written, acted and in my opinion the best show on TV. It is certainly better then the medical and law dramas on NBC, ABC, and CBS.
The actress who plays Shae (Tyrion's new whore) used to be in porn. I googled "Sibel Kekilli" and came across the videos from her early days. Whoa - those were hardcore stuff with full-view heterosexual fucking, not soft porn like a girl playing with herself or a couple of lesbians kissing and feeling each other.
It was a scandal when the German press exposed her past, but then German political correctness censored the press to protect her. Thank goodness we have free speech here.
@ktchong The only scandal is, what the 'BILD' did. The german consitution says, that the human dignity is unimpeachable. Also the german press has a 'code of ethics', that forbids to trample on human dignity. The report was written in a very degrading way and doing this is not covered by that, what you call 'free speech'. The press is not censored here, but it is punishable, when you humiliate somebody in public. Oh yes, we like personal rights.
@DrunkRock86 The point is: was what the press uncovered and reported truthful? was that a fact that she was in hardcore porn? The press reported the fact and the truth. It does not matter what was tone the reports used.
She *was* in hardcore porn. How is that dignifying? Being a porn star is no different from being a prostitute: they both are paid to fuck strangers. She can't be in porn and then demand "human dignity". The press did not degrade her -- she degraded herself.
@ktchong Yes, the tone DOES matter, at least in germany. The 'BILD' wasn't forbidden to report the FACT, but in that manner. That was a disgusting smear campaign, that had to stop. And unlike you, I see no problem in beeing a porn star or a prostitute (which is NOT the same!). Everybody has a right to preserve ones dignity, it doesn't matter, what he or she did or if some people think, this behaviour wold be dissolute or something.
@DrunkRock86 Did the press lie about her past or make stuff up about her? NO. It does NOT matter what the tone the press used. what is important is the press reported the FACTS: she *was* in hardcore porn. And she became all pissy when people uncovered her past. The press did not degrade her. SHE DEGRADED HERSELF: being a porn star is no different from being a prostitute. Yet Germany punished the press for digging up facts and reporting truths -- now that's the real indignity.
@ktchong It may be strange for you, that we find the right to live without being insulted more important, than the right to insult somebody, but for me, it is something very important. This is why we have less crazy religious fundamentalists or racists as in the US. We give misanthropic or anti-democratic people no plattform.
@niemanickurwa Cancel Midseason? WTF are you talking about? First and foremost, the first season is almost over....one more episode left, so you cannot cancel midseason. Also HBO renewed it for a second season two days after the pilot premiered. So no midseason cancelation.Also HBO requires all series of theirs to have the season completely filmed before they go onto the air. They can cancel but most likely at Seasons 3nd not mid season.
@MagusX1 lol Life sucks that bad huh? Do you feel that that hollow victory has in some way made you less of a disappointment to you family and indeed yourself? Picking on peoples random throwaway comments makes you feel better doesn't it, cos you feel life has been somewhat unfair, and you feel you should take it out on whoever you can? No matter how meh the original comment was. You saw someone you thought you could make a victim, to make yourself feel better didn't you? lol Like a fucking book
@niemanickurwa No my life is fine. Its fun to get reactions from people who take the internet seriously just like you, which you did. Now curious, who has the hollow life. Surely not me, since you wanted to take the time to make your long winded speech. Cheers Mate!!! :D
@MagusX1 lol Does relentlessly acting like your 14 usually work with people? It make them get all angry? Aww bless. lol You need to work on your troll skills if you wanna sit at the big boys table.
@niemanickurwa Heh, considering you donot know what trolling really is. And I think my skills are quite good, you keep responding to me even a week after. Some one is hurting inside because of this, his pathetic life destroying him. You are fun to fuck with.....I should inform some friends of mine that you are a lulz cow.
Rape is STILL part and parcel of War, atrocities are commited everyday against civilian populations in conflicts...Western industriallized nations are not innocent either...the only thing modern sensibilities are good for is hiding the ugly truth because it is horrific and giving PR people employment.
@pipersara i think Cenk was saying that it used to be acceptable and expected that rape occurred during war, not that it doesn't happen anymore. of course it still happens, it's just not socially acceptable anymore. people would be disgusted if all the rapes that have been committed by U.S soldiers over the past 8-9 years were publicized.
Such a good show can't wait for season 2
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drippledoodlez 2 months ago
Speaking of sex ... 3:47 major orgasm.
stannypk5k9 3 months ago
Lol the sex in the book is waaaaay more graphic and violent than in the show, I mean they didn't even say cunt in the show.
s5b678 4 months ago
@s5b678 joffery called arya a cunt in the series..
MsCerealKiller 4 months ago
@s5b678
The rape scene of Daenerys in the book was actually tamer than in the tv show. I was actually surprised by that, especially considering she's, like, thirteen in the books.
unabomberman 4 months ago 10
@s5b678 Yes they did,more than once.
pjomayo 2 months ago
I agree with Cenk (for once, lol) about the rape being true to the setting. The book is fantasy, yes, but it's based on Medieval Europe. Rape was a sad, sad, common fact of life.
I think putting ALL of the rape in the show would be too much. It's one thing to read about it, another to see it.
youngliterati 4 months ago 7
sex was waaaiiii harder bak then. u know in swords times.
crazyrahul97 5 months ago
I don't see the point if the sex in GOT. Its a great show and I wish they would make the sex less graphic.
ArmTriangleChoke 5 months ago
People need sex in books/movies to make it interesting I guess...
Lionthou 5 months ago
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@Lionthou People need sex in books/movies to make it interesting I guess...
thats the sad thing, people dont have healthy private life
fleshlovers 3 months ago
@Lionthou To make it realistic more like.Most Hollywood TV people fully clothed having sex..way to insult the audience..
pjomayo 2 months ago
Actually, in the book Khal Drogo asks "no?" as he grabs her arms and Daenerys says "yes" and puts his hand between her legs, so if the series are different from the book it was not toned down, at least in that part.
13godpacacta13 6 months ago
This show is very uncomfortable to watch with your family
helo752 6 months ago
@helo752 hmm, i can see it sombering the mood somewhat!
BVargas78 5 months ago
@helo752 That's why it's made for ADULTS.
pjomayo 2 months ago
@pjomayo okay
helo752 2 months ago
Great show, great book. I read the book first and i think that anyone who likes reading at all should read it first before watching the show.
metaitachi 6 months ago
As long as it doesn't affect the plot.
ChiefRepublic 6 months ago
Getting touched up by your brother, humping the Queen in the tower, 3 guys trying to hump a bitch at once, a dwarf having some fun in a whore house, rape on a cliff by your new hubby who doesn't speak English. Wait what? The first episode you say?!
JustMerpMan 6 months ago
Fuck the young turks
redrifles 7 months ago
Khal drogo getting killed made me not care for a season 2 anymore.
xmeat 7 months ago
@xmeat personally for me Khal Drogo was the least interesting character of the all series. His death didn't impact me at all.
robto 7 months ago
@robto horses for courses, no pun intended but the all conquering kick ass types will have an appeal to some.
I didnt care for him much either however, just a big barbarian brute without any subtlety. The golden crown bit was pretty awesome though :)
BVargas78 6 months ago
where can i download every sex scene from the show??
darkwhitty 7 months ago
i am 27. i am agree all points and i want read it but i cant wait but audiobook £22.95 next week i will get it . i love tv show but i dont like sex scenes. but i love story of Game Of Thrones
samknappster9 7 months ago
The author of the book(s) actually had a lot of creative input for the show, and I'm sure he realized that reading about rape is different than WATCHING rape. I'm glad he has already taken this stance, because these things don't get any tamer as the series progresses.
WimpyMcWeaksauce 7 months ago
GAME OF THRONES ROCKS!!!!!
KoKoLoops94Nerd 7 months ago
While it was of course toned down, I don't think it needed the extra nudity. What was shown, I believe, was essential to the story (except for that one scene involving the two whores and Littlefinger). The rest, I wouldn't have cared it it made it in or not. I don't believe that anything was removed due to censorship, only budget.
As for violence, again, budget. I would have loved to see that battle at the end of the movie, but it would have been too expensive for a TV show.
instantdeath99 7 months ago
The reason HBO (and Game of Thrones) is awesome is that if forces Americans to confront shit they are uncomfortable watching. More cock shots, more rape, more castration, and more white people not getting what they want. Game of thrones has strong female characters, it confront class, gender, sexuality, race, religious, and political issues through a unique and artistic lens.
StarkMadSnake 7 months ago
@StarkMadSnake if thats your reason as to why game of thrones is awesome, you really have no clue
levewitz 7 months ago
@levewitz My point was that its strong social critique and deviation from established tv and movie tropes separates it from other fantasy shows. That is, GoT is not campy because it's not an easy-to-watch, formulaic, immediate-satisfaction, feel-good, forces of black vs. white series. It makes you think, it makes you uncomfortable, and it does so while weaving an engrossing story.
StarkMadSnake 7 months ago
anna just stfu
dmax631 7 months ago
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floppykid 7 months ago
Mass rape was an extremely common occurrence in warfare for most of history, but I get very uncomfortable with any rape scenes in television or movies. So I'm glad the series toned it down for modern audiences. I also agree with Ana about the lesbian sex scene, if it had been a guy-on-guy sex scene the male viewers would have freaked out. And there are too may tits displayed for no reason at all. (Btw I'm a straight guy.)
squamish4244 7 months ago
ROFLROFL this guy is a FUCKING moron.
Crenepo 8 months ago
Rape is awesome. If you can't defend your Black Gates of Mordor, don't be surprised when a hobbit puts his ring into your Mount Doom...
videogamenostalgia 8 months ago
the book version of daenerys/drogo's wedding night was deliberately really sweet, so the TV version isn't actually accurate there.
xorasel 8 months ago
Haha what the fuck is with the subtitles?
ToknikkWaste 8 months ago
I hate lesbians.
nabiji 8 months ago
@nabiji yo; not cool.
LittleMissAmbiguous 8 months ago
@LittleMissAmbiguous Wasn't meant to be.
nabiji 8 months ago
@nabiji Oh okay. In that case, shut up, asshole.
LittleMissAmbiguous 8 months ago
I watched this recently, partially due to the positive comments made about it here. But I must say, quite disappointing. The story felt cliche far to often. The storytelling seemed contrived, like it was just attempting to fulfill the motions for certain conclusions. The effects and set extensions are quite good for a TV series tho.
Dem212 8 months ago
And I don't mind the sex in itself, but in the books every sex scene seemed relevant to the plot. And the series, especially in the beginning, seemed to treat it more like, "look, boobies!"
But other than that it's still a great show, and probably one of the best book-to-screen adaptions ever.
tobbaddol 8 months ago
What's missing from this discussion is the fact that in the book Drogo DOESN'T rape Daenerys. He's really gentle with her until she actually submits to him. And this is something I think the series screwed up. Also in the scene earlier where Viserys caresses Daenerys breasts... in the book he twists her nipples until it hurts. These are just tiny details but I think they're important in establishing the characters.
tobbaddol 8 months ago
Am I the only straight girl who loves the lesbian sex *nods head* it's good.... but I also love the male gay sex especially if the guys are hot yummy :)
Sweetp000433 8 months ago
in the book khal Drogo didn't rape Danny...he was gentle and she asked him to take her in the end...it wasn't a rape...
doczg88 8 months ago
@doczg88 Yes but in the show it was rape.
Sweetp000433 8 months ago
@Sweetp000433 yes, that's my point...that was wrong...it's very important part of the book that he was very gentle...
doczg88 8 months ago
As a teenager, Trueblood=>number one.
AlnAmt 8 months ago
Apparently it bothers her that the tv adaptation isn't full of rape . Having read the book, I must say it's nothing more than toned down porn. But according to these idiots, it's a great piece of literature
qpbooneqp 8 months ago
What part of these people is sexy on these shows, in the skeem of things.... the reality of it all is they fuckin didnt bathe for months or shave & probably stank of ass n dick n dirty balls n dirty vaghole... Am I the only one missing the its so sexy part. Their fuckin pieholes probably stank like they have been chewing on a piece of turd for months since they didnt brush their pieholes. I know sex sells, but when contemplating the reality of their situation its fucking gross!! ~pukes~ XD
BlackMambakins 8 months ago
@AOTPradio First off if I had a gf I would be a lezbo, as to the me making sense & you referring to your lack of an actual partner with a pulse so you resort to self help as me being a teenager is a sad attempt for a putdown. Not everyone big guy needs some visual bullshit to get inspired during the act is what I was pointing out & it was MY view on the matter. Go watch some midget porn so you can feel better about your tiny cock & stop trolling me with your pallin tard-like speaches bitchnutz!
BlackMambakins 8 months ago
ohh ana, if only you were bi...
SirEsahc 8 months ago
so.. can anyone actually recommend me this show? is it good? is it bad?
bla34112 8 months ago
@bla34112 I watched the first 9 episodes after hearing Cenk say it's a top 10. If you like the medieval type setting then you'll probably really like the show. It's got a good story and lots of action. I don't think it's as over the top sexual as they make it out to be here, but it is really violent haha.
Neeks4215 8 months ago
@Neeks4215
thanks
bla34112 8 months ago
@bla34112 I've watched the first few episodes and I wouldn't recommend it. The sex scenes are over the top and constant to the point that it interrupts the flow of the story/episode. Additionally there is the story itself - it appears to be a ho-hum generic ripoff of the Elric of Melnibone series. A little predictable.
Starry2000 8 months ago
@Starry2000
thanks
bla34112 8 months ago
lesbian scenes suck
jungleman68 8 months ago
@jungleman68
no no no.. you are wrong.
lesbian scenes dont suck, but they are definitely gay
bla34112 8 months ago
@bla34112 they do suck for me. just ruins the fantasy
jungleman68 8 months ago
Is it just me or is Ana always complaining about lesbian sex scenes being too long? She said the same about Black Swan and I went in expecting that the sex scene would be ridiculously over-stretched but what the hell, it wasn't that long at all. I get it, though, she doesn't have to like watching lesbian sex. But I have a little schadenfreude for her because I always feel uncomfortable during straight sex scenes. x) Nice to see a straight girl squirming in turn. Mwahaha
Tuuliska 8 months ago
It's ironic that the rape scene they're talking about was actually A LOT TAMER in the book and had the Khal be very tender with Dany. But for the purposes of the pilot episode I think they couldn't afford to make the Khal be that nice that fast and they had to sustain the tension that he's gonna mistreat Dany.
Relativitee 8 months ago
how do we know they are lesbians, these characters? there was a man in the room and they are prostitutes. he was even instructing them. so...
xxxild 8 months ago
they sex scenes that disturb me the most is all the creepy incest...gag
brettski34 8 months ago
The show is ok. It's still miles from Rome, which has tons more gratuitous sex.
rbrtchng 8 months ago
In the book the Kal does not force himself on his wife the first time they have sex. It was tender and he asked if it were ok and she said yes.
kellyn221 8 months ago
@trentWHY
That was actually fucking incomfortable to watch for me. I mean, there are two hot chicks going at it and this guy is rambling about how he's hung up on this chick, that is not that attractive to begin with, and how he's figured out who he is and how fucking people up is his lot in life 'cause, to paraphrase " if you ain't cheating you ain't winning."
That was truly disturbing shit.
unabomberman 8 months ago
Its not better than Spartacus!
Dayonetheone 8 months ago
Love Game of Thrones.....but what stupid fucking coverage. This isn't news, they're trying to b a series review show.
BTW, it's Dolthraki not Dolthrak.
PlanetAgnostic 8 months ago
@PlanetAgnostic
You just wanna whine and clearly didn't understand the point they were making.
Besides, that was just Cenk using his Turkish pronounciation of things just to make fun of it.
unabomberman 8 months ago
Wait for the HBO dramatization of the Janjaweed in Darfur.
Then the conservatives will get all the oil soaked S+M they're missing.
But they'll complain the gratuitous "fun" sex is inaccurate to the historical record.
PRIVATEAYEIEYE 8 months ago
netfixed game of thrones. Double win.
egeswender 8 months ago
@trentWHY I thought that scene was great. We learned about Littlefinger and the whole prostitution metaphor for controlling and manipulating people was really cool and fit in with the rest of the story.
Plus, the sex in the show is not any more gratuitous than in the books.
Cheespuffs45 8 months ago
They beheaded the guy from LOTR. In fact, the two recognizable actors have now been killed off. Cheap trick to get people to watch. Although the little person is a great actor and I've only ever seen him in a few things. He's my favorite character so far.
LoryLandskipper 8 months ago
All the blacks in Game of Thrones are rapists. This is fantasy racism.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
There aren't any blacks on Game of Thrones.Why do you think all brown people are black? Who's the racist really?
Deepstarr7020 8 months ago
@Deepstarr7020 I mean the darker people are portrayed to be beast-like rapists who will stop at nothing to quench their hedonistic and savage nature. It's racism in fiction.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
How did you spot the "darker people"? Are you looking to see if blacks are included otherwise you'd feel excluded? If so, why is that people can't relate to a fictional character if they're not the same race? I've noticed that amongst the racially conscience.
Deepstarr7020 8 months ago
@Deepstarr7020 I'm neither black nor brown, but it doesn't matter, as it's about portrayal. You can't just have the dark people raping and whites trying to tame them to do their bidding. That's racist.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
You are insane.
You clearly didn't bother to use common sense or do research when watching the show b/c it is pretty much implied how the 'whites' are mighty fucked up on their own. And the kind of shit they start pulling the moment the War hinted at during the last episodes of the season truly starts, and expanded during the books, makes the Dothraki look like fucking amateurs. I'm talking about rapes, executions, torture of women and children, etc. take your pick.
unabomberman 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
There's a bunch of dark skinned people in the narrated world of George R.R Martin, among them the Dothraki who are total dicks. There's also a ton of people said to suffer those bastards.
You just wanna feel butthurt for the sake of it.
unabomberman 8 months ago
@unabomberman Having a black rape a white girl with his hard ethnic cock, and having them act uncivilized overall is racism (remember the fucking and killing at the marriage ceremony?). Some Whites may engage in deviant behavior (incest, etc) but are portrayed as having at least a little class, while blacks are shown to ALL not have any. The white-black = civilized-savage dichotomy is VERY clear.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
All you are saying is "I lost the argument so I'm gonna completely ignore your point and repeat myself."
The Dothraki are fucking savages. Deal with it. You know who suffer those fuckuing savages: Everyone in that region whose women they rape, kill, and whose cities they sack. Coincidently, eveyrone in that region is fucking BROWN. When does it become racist, then? When a white girl gets involved?
unabomberman 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
Continued:
if you even bothered to do some basic research you'd have noticed that, and also, for season two you're gonna see the white fuckers of Westeros make the Dothraki look like fucking amateurs when the War breaks out and women and children get tortured, raped, and executed and have their homes taken away, etc.
You are looking at stuff through clouded glasses. Do some research instead of jumping to conclusions and truncating what could be a swell discussion.
unabomberman 8 months ago
@unabomberman My point is simply that though both whites and blacks/browns commit horrible crimes, only some whites do while ALL blacks are portrayed as savages. It becomes a question of why basically all the blacks are savages while only some of the whites are. Thus, it's racism.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
The only racism is in your head because you focus on just one thing and completely shut your vision to the bigger picture. That's like saying that talking about the Mongols being a bunch of fucking savages when they sacked Russia, China, or Vietnam was racist--all of whom were of distinct ethnic backgrounds. Is that how it works?
Should I not compare the Mongols' savage culture to the Russians' culture in this case b/c they were whites and that's way too PC for you?
unabomberman 8 months ago
@unabomberman Well, the Mongols were, like any other peoples, both savage and civilized. For example, they were very tolerant of religious beliefs, and did not for the most part disrupt communities on foreign lands by settling on them (i.e. in Russia). The blacks/browns in GOT are ALL viewed as being rapists; the white women getting stuffed with raw black cock didn't help the racism, as it is many white peoples' worst fear.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
Lack of research, again. Let's see: the Dothraki, like the Mongols at one time, did not settle either, they have their own cultural rules and taboos, their own religion, and they even have their own diplomacy, etc. Also, like the mongols, they pillage, conquer, rape, and enslave.
The only thing you show me is that you are ignorant and would rather remain so. You've made no logical point to support your argument other than black cocks and white girls, and even those aren't in context.
unabomberman 8 months ago
@unabomberman Well, even If I took your point about the mongols being barbaric, it would be tempered out by other browns/blacks not being barbaric. In GOT this is not the case, where blacks on the whole are portrayed more savage than whites. The episodes clearly illustrate this; don't engage in an abstract discussion based on the books, nerd. Look at what people are watching on their TVs.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
Why don't you just admit that your argument sucked and you lost this? You can call me nerd if you want to, but that doesn't change the fact that you are way wrong on this and would rather be butthurt than use your head. Plus, you didn't even define properly what you mean by "Savagery." Does that same notion apply to the Sheep People that the Dothraki kill and take slaves from, or to Pentos of the Free Cities where a bunch of blacks and browns happen to live in?
You lost this
unabomberman 8 months ago
@unabomberman In the end, it's all about portrayal, and I would maintain that a certain type of honor is portrayed as being whites only. People who watch GOT will see a black raping a white, and a black horde going to war against more civilized whites. You can quote the books all you want, but the average viewer will look at this as blacks being evil (it will stroke racial tension). Come back to reality!
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli
Are you implying that your reality is, or should be, anyone else's reality? B/c that's just self absorbed.
All I'm seeing is you wanting me to see blacks, browns, or non-whites, as fucking monsters b/cthey live in tents and have no castles and do shit that is no less disturbing than what the supposed "nobles" will end up doing later on. Not every viewer has your exact cultural background nor your tendencies, so stop trying to impose them as the correct one on everyone else.
unabomberman 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli The Horde are based on the Mongols (Who are central asian) not black. As far as I can remember I have not seen any group of people representing africans in this at all. Just another idiot with a persecution complex trying to stir up not existent shit.
drzyklon06 8 months ago
@drzyklon06 I'm referring to the dark people in general. A large ethnic man ravaging a small white girl against her will with his immense feral cock is for many whites their greatest fear. Coupled with their war against whites, it's at the very least subliminal racism.
TreatyOfTripoli 8 months ago
@TreatyOfTripoli haha wtf
CssAfc 7 months ago
@Deepstarr7020
What?!
unabomberman 8 months ago
Game of Thrones is the best show ever. Lesbian scene was great :)
jackyrouge 8 months ago
Game Of Thrones is the SHIT!
Radz117 8 months ago
Actually in the first episode Khal Drogo actually turned on Dany. At first she was scared but then she realized that he was genuinely attracted to her and she actually enjoyed it. It wasn't rape... little research would help, especially since the books have been out for years.
barkevvv 8 months ago 2
About all the sex/rape scenes seem to have a purpose. The one with the young woman and the Dalthraki (sp?) seems to have purpose in the context of the scenario, as does the orgy during the wedding. People just have to stop going "ew, gross" every time and grow up, really.
AngryIntellectual 8 months ago
Rape is still a war crime that goes on.
gaelwynmackwyn 8 months ago
Spartacus series had more sex scenes and wild ones
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 8 months ago
Game of Thrones ranks as one of my favorite shows of all time, although the end of episode 9 left me dumbfounded and upset. Game of Thrones, Spartacus, and True Blood are currently my favorite running series, and I'm perfectly fine with the sex in all of them. Sometimes a little shock value makes you realize how good the show really is.
Raelsatu 8 months ago
@Raelsatu
how can you compare a cheap, borderline homosexual (because of all the manflesh), no story, 300/Rome rip-off like Spartacus with Game of thrones. FUCK YOU!!! Spartacus sucks!
105km 8 months ago
@105km So I make a perfectly valid opinion about what a few of my favorite shows and you say fuck ME? Go visit a psychward or something because you don't make a bit of sense. Me and many others would agree Spartacus is a great series, and is in no way a ripoff of Rome (I watched Rome and just no), yes it has a similar visual style to 300 but a better plot and everything else. Spartacus is better than 90 percent of the redundant trash on tv these days, that's my OPINION. Now fuck off
Raelsatu 8 months ago
@105km
Spartacus Blood and Sand is fucking awesome show GTFOH, but Game of Thrones crushes all competitors.Everyone on the show delivers. Sean Bean just got stabed outside a bar recently, and he went back in the bar stitched his wound and had a fucking drink. He's the real deal.
Deepstarr7020 8 months ago
I love Ana's boobs, is that wrong?
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 8 months ago 2
they should see the chick in the show who is still breast feeding her like 8 yr old kid...
phoboskitty 8 months ago
oehh ana talkin dirteh
Direksone 8 months ago
did anna say i like the sex scenes?
acdnan 8 months ago
welcome to the real world, bitches
equallyeasilyfuqyou 8 months ago
never heard of this show but i'm watching it NOW!
popupkilla 8 months ago
the series should stay (more) true to the books..
pillage their women, burn their children, rape their villages!
inphuriated 8 months ago
The HBO series is in no way even close to the books. Shut your filth hole Ana.
LordSnow69 8 months ago
FTW!!
diasent 8 months ago
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N45HcH 8 months ago
If they this this is bad, they should watch Spartacus! That show took gratuitous sex on cable tv to a whole new level!
Xenda 8 months ago
Does anyone else remember the rape scene in "High Plains Drifter"? At the time the movie was made, that scene was VERY historical because it was common for men who lived rough lives to rape women. Now, I don't think even the best Hollywood writer could have the hero do that and get away with it? Now you NEVER see it unless it's on pay cable. There are two versions of the movie dealing with the rape. One has nudity, the other does not so it can be aired on TV. Now it has to be completely removed
ginko27 8 months ago
I wonder if they're gonna show a flashback scene of Gregor raping Elia of Dorne, with her childrens blood and brains still clinging to his armor. That would shock the majority of the audience, I should think.
Lleanlleawrg 8 months ago
THE FUCKING KILLED NED
adobo777 8 months ago
She gave them the flowers...and then she got raped.
sean919191 8 months ago
Leave it to Hollywood to kill anything cool (GoT, not rape)! Vampire used to be cool, but now they sparkle and wear purity rings! I don't think you could even call the wedding night scene a rape. I guess you could make an argument that she didn't want sex and had little choice in it, but she knew that it was needed to secure her marraige and make her brother king, so she DID allow it. If HBO sticks to the plot, I can live with less sex scenes as long as the important ones are there
ginko27 8 months ago
This show is awesome. The sex never bothers me. Like Cenk said, it's set in a medieval world. That's how things worked.
The best books, TV series and movies draw heavily from historic events while incorporating it's own fantasy world. Game of Thrones does that very well. The sex, especially the prostitution, really help the world feel realistic to the time period it is based on in real human history.
SSky06 8 months ago
I love this show but I can't watch rape scenes without being uncomfortable. It makes my Vagina hurt. I wouldn't be able to watch the show if there was more rape.
StarFire4 8 months ago
"gets raped by her husband on there wedding night"????????????????
floresm951 8 months ago
@floresm951 she was forced into marrying him by her brother, watch the show and you will understand.
guns949 8 months ago
Game of Thrones .... FTW!!
ShadarHaran242 8 months ago
What lesbian scene?
wisepk007 8 months ago
jayar ftw! :D
Oct195 8 months ago
Rome on HBO had much more sexual content... show was good, but man Game of Thrones is near perfect!
TerribleTimes 8 months ago
It's just a stupid show for stupid people, end of story.
cjwright79 8 months ago
@cjwright79 Then i am the president of the stupid people!
alexander33345 8 months ago
@cjwright79 you're a conservative? right?
djdarklyceum 8 months ago 6
@cjwright79 Game of Thrones is brilliantly written, acted and in my opinion the best show on TV. It is certainly better then the medical and law dramas on NBC, ABC, and CBS.
catchlightdame 8 months ago
Ana, fingering......mmmm
DerrenBrown100 8 months ago
The sex in GoT is used for exposition. The lesbian scene were used for showing Littlefingers motivations.
PKtheFirst 8 months ago 2
The sex scenes are only bad when i happen to be watching the show with the parents..."Oh Dad look...Jaimey's fucking his sister...oh how sweet!" lol
kaelim888 8 months ago
wtf she is not give out on her weeding night
habesha9779 8 months ago
The actress who plays Shae (Tyrion's new whore) used to be in porn. I googled "Sibel Kekilli" and came across the videos from her early days. Whoa - those were hardcore stuff with full-view heterosexual fucking, not soft porn like a girl playing with herself or a couple of lesbians kissing and feeling each other.
It was a scandal when the German press exposed her past, but then German political correctness censored the press to protect her. Thank goodness we have free speech here.
ktchong 8 months ago
@ktchong The only scandal is, what the 'BILD' did. The german consitution says, that the human dignity is unimpeachable. Also the german press has a 'code of ethics', that forbids to trample on human dignity. The report was written in a very degrading way and doing this is not covered by that, what you call 'free speech'. The press is not censored here, but it is punishable, when you humiliate somebody in public. Oh yes, we like personal rights.
DrunkRock86 8 months ago
@DrunkRock86 The point is: was what the press uncovered and reported truthful? was that a fact that she was in hardcore porn? The press reported the fact and the truth. It does not matter what was tone the reports used.
She *was* in hardcore porn. How is that dignifying? Being a porn star is no different from being a prostitute: they both are paid to fuck strangers. She can't be in porn and then demand "human dignity". The press did not degrade her -- she degraded herself.
ktchong 8 months ago
@ktchong Yes, the tone DOES matter, at least in germany. The 'BILD' wasn't forbidden to report the FACT, but in that manner. That was a disgusting smear campaign, that had to stop. And unlike you, I see no problem in beeing a porn star or a prostitute (which is NOT the same!). Everybody has a right to preserve ones dignity, it doesn't matter, what he or she did or if some people think, this behaviour wold be dissolute or something.
DrunkRock86 8 months ago
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ktchong 8 months ago
@DrunkRock86 Did the press lie about her past or make stuff up about her? NO. It does NOT matter what the tone the press used. what is important is the press reported the FACTS: she *was* in hardcore porn. And she became all pissy when people uncovered her past. The press did not degrade her. SHE DEGRADED HERSELF: being a porn star is no different from being a prostitute. Yet Germany punished the press for digging up facts and reporting truths -- now that's the real indignity.
ktchong 8 months ago
@ktchong It may be strange for you, that we find the right to live without being insulted more important, than the right to insult somebody, but for me, it is something very important. This is why we have less crazy religious fundamentalists or racists as in the US. We give misanthropic or anti-democratic people no plattform.
DrunkRock86 8 months ago
Game Of Thrones wtf. Really is a very good show.... so we can expect HBO to cancel it mid season I'm sure.
niemanickurwa 8 months ago
@niemanickurwa Cancel Midseason? WTF are you talking about? First and foremost, the first season is almost over....one more episode left, so you cannot cancel midseason. Also HBO renewed it for a second season two days after the pilot premiered. So no midseason cancelation.Also HBO requires all series of theirs to have the season completely filmed before they go onto the air. They can cancel but most likely at Seasons 3nd not mid season.
MagusX1 8 months ago
@MagusX1 lol OK, calm down mate. I'm just still pissed at them for unceremoniously giving up on OZ.
niemanickurwa 8 months ago
@niemanickurwa I donot need to calm down. I just like decimating idiotic comments such as this.
MagusX1 8 months ago
@MagusX1 lol Life sucks that bad huh? Do you feel that that hollow victory has in some way made you less of a disappointment to you family and indeed yourself? Picking on peoples random throwaway comments makes you feel better doesn't it, cos you feel life has been somewhat unfair, and you feel you should take it out on whoever you can? No matter how meh the original comment was. You saw someone you thought you could make a victim, to make yourself feel better didn't you? lol Like a fucking book
niemanickurwa 8 months ago
@niemanickurwa No my life is fine. Its fun to get reactions from people who take the internet seriously just like you, which you did. Now curious, who has the hollow life. Surely not me, since you wanted to take the time to make your long winded speech. Cheers Mate!!! :D
MagusX1 8 months ago
@MagusX1 Me? Bored as fuck what's your point? lol And I know why you do what you do I already told you. ;-)
niemanickurwa 8 months ago
@niemanickurwa My point is this is your life son. Quite pathetic, bye cheers Mate!!! :D
MagusX1 8 months ago
@MagusX1 lol Keep winning princess.
niemanickurwa 8 months ago
@niemanickurwa Uh some ones mad! Cheers Mate! :D
MagusX1 8 months ago
@MagusX1 lol Does relentlessly acting like your 14 usually work with people? It make them get all angry? Aww bless. lol You need to work on your troll skills if you wanna sit at the big boys table.
niemanickurwa 7 months ago
@niemanickurwa Heh, considering you donot know what trolling really is. And I think my skills are quite good, you keep responding to me even a week after. Some one is hurting inside because of this, his pathetic life destroying him. You are fun to fuck with.....I should inform some friends of mine that you are a lulz cow.
MagusX1 7 months ago
@MagusX1 For someone who doesn't care and has a life you sure answer quickly lol
niemanickurwa 7 months ago
@niemanickurwa lol, You still mad? The funny part is that your still responding? HAHAHAHAHAH !
MagusX1 7 months ago
@MagusX1 "The funny part is that your still responding? " lol
niemanickurwa 7 months ago
I never saw this show, now I must see it. Help a brother out what episode is the lezbo scene?
rrangel79 8 months ago
i agree with ana. i honestly couldn't figure out what the lesbian sex scene added to the story
honestchrismcg 8 months ago
@honestchrismcg You're a blithering idiot.
AguyUsingTubeyou 8 months ago
Rape is STILL part and parcel of War, atrocities are commited everyday against civilian populations in conflicts...Western industriallized nations are not innocent either...the only thing modern sensibilities are good for is hiding the ugly truth because it is horrific and giving PR people employment.
pipersara 8 months ago
@pipersara i think Cenk was saying that it used to be acceptable and expected that rape occurred during war, not that it doesn't happen anymore. of course it still happens, it's just not socially acceptable anymore. people would be disgusted if all the rapes that have been committed by U.S soldiers over the past 8-9 years were publicized.
Cuddlebunzzzz 8 months ago