I'm sure that nostradamus based his predictions of what was happening in the ongoin world, if he predicted that science was going to save this world waw because he was pissed of religion, he wrote this during the enlightenment when people were leaving religion and started to explore the unknown. if he predicted famine thats because he saw the human population increasing in the next hundred years. i don't believe anything he says, i think he just based his predictions on what he saw on humans.
@psycoloco111 actually, what you don't know is that Nostradamus did all his work in the time of the inquisition - a Spanish lead judicial body that tortured to death anybody that said anything non-religious or acknowledged the existence of anything outside of the bible - that's why everything was done in difficult to understand code, otherwise he would have just written down his predictions exactly as he saw them.
Moron... you really don't know what you're talking about. I've met people like you before: arrogant and ignorant in your statements comparing others of vastly different times and situations to your own and wgat you see, saying there ideas/ways are/were a load of crap because it couldn't possibly have been (or be) like that... because YOU don't see it anywhere around YOU.
IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT HE CODED BECAUSE OF THE INQUISITION SO AS NOT TO BE CAUGHT AND TORTURED BY THEM !
@booitjie but don't you think as soon as the church saw that they would have been looking for him, remember nothing was published without having the church aproval.
His fellow villagers protected him. The Black Plague was big in those days, lots of disease and suffering that he was able to prevent in them by seeing into the future and knowing what was the cure. He then told them to eat/consume lots of fruit/veg high in C and so on.
What I suggest you do is go and found out about him. Videos on Youtube: The Man Who Saw Tomorrow. In +-9 parts. Made about 25-30 years ago. In there is 9/11... clear as a bell.
world war III will start in November of this year...Well that's what he said, I don't believe it but I don't not believe it either, it's very complicating because nostradamus and all his prophecies could be just a lie, we won't know until his prophecies come true in the future, they only seem to show the prophecies he predicted after the events, so that implys the fact that they wrote them after it happened.
Actually he only predicted what was a strong potential to happeng, however everything had (and still has) the possibility of being averted. In the book mentioned in the video, it talks about the British Prince going to middle east, his unsuccessful return, world leader executed at time of a previously unknown meteor. The book was written before them happening, and they all happened: Prince Harry, him being sent back, and Sadam (I forget the meteor's name).
theres nothing we can do , the normal regular joe on da street like u or me have no power to stop these things from hapening , they will happen ,i think it all depends on wat part of da world you live in , by da way , i think dis vid is just a load of scientology propaganda and from da stories iv heard , i wouldnt trust em as far as i could throw em ,full of deciet and sneekyness . but that dont change da fact dat the NEW WORLD ORDER has comenced phase 1 of global takeover with the lisbon treaty
If it weren't for Scientology, this planet would already be a slave state with people drugged up like in the movie Equilibrium starring Christian Bale. One day, you will realise that.
Think about it: That information that you have on Scientology? It was given to you by an NWO controlled media. They control all media and what you see... just like they did with 911.
Like all religions, scientology is control and control is not of the Age of Aquarius. L Ron Hubbard was no genius - combining eastern myth with western science is redundant nonsense. The truth is all you need and the truth is man is his own creator, what he thinks he becomes, and if he thinks something works it does, man has full control, as the source is in man - and his true self is spirit - no true faith would charge anything for services by the way.
Well, what you're saying about "as the source is in man" is basically the exact teachings (plus much more) in Scientology.
you call it nonsense because you don't know what it is, as is always the situation with the biggest critics. You haven't read a single book, so you don't know what you're talking about.
@northmeister THAT IS SO NOT TRUE, man isint his own creator, somthing controls us and make us do evrything we do, first you are born, then u learn stuff, then u live based on what u learn, but if most events in your life are negative ull become negative and it isint your choice, and if ur lucky and most things happening to you are good well u become a good person and ull have somthing really bad happening but then ull get the meanings to forget, but its what u hear see and touch that makes u
no, you're wrong. a man makes himself. this is evidenced by the fact that some people grow up in the worst situations and environments, criminal friends/family, abusive parents, etc... but they are still honest and good people.
to be totally created/effected by your environment is a very low state of being.
Well, it's a potential. The books stresses the absolute distruction of it, severe, but I think it is a potential that very possibly can happen. It also says nuclear attack in the Mediterranean, which surrounds Italy... lots of problems.
I have looked up this topic many times and still believe in his predictions. Though instead of 2007 world war 3 is really supposed in late or early summer of 2009! He says there will first be a confrentation between isreal an iran, then the next major terrorist attack on the U.S. But to get your mind off of dooms day go to dehrules and watch some funny retarded vids.
dude trust me if you read some of the things that nostradamus said and read the bible too you would see that the antichrist will start WWIII. you right about the collapse of the dollar and the new world order. Another thing you need to let go of this scientology stuff because its satanic. God created mankind. The 3rd antichrist is in the obama administration right now and hes giving Obama advise on what to do about the middle east. Everyone thinks its obama but its not.
yes, he will, but WWIII will not be a "war" of nations pitching their armies against each other. it will be the enslavement of mankind, which is the goal of hte NWO. and, there will be international resistance and violence.
please check about FEMA concentration camps on youtube and american union.
THAT will be WWIII.
sorry, but the disinformation that has been entered into christianity has led it way off course.
and, one day, you will find out the truth about Scientology.
that makes perfect sense but either way you could still call it WWIII. You're a smart guy booitjie but you still dont quite understand. This goes way beyond science and a war. See you think this antichrist is going to be no different than hitler or that other guy but hes not. We are living in the last days. You say one day i'll find the truth about scientology and I say about 3 years from now theres going to be pure proof that it wont be too long before the second coming of our savior Jesus.
well, that's fine, and I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I think many prophecies of many different people have been adjusted to fit different followings' views.
I didnt want to tell people all my info but heres a dab. The main difference between this antichrist that will be revealed in 3 years and something nostra failed to mention or couldnt see was that after this antichrist dies he will be satanically resurrected. If people would read the bible they would learn alot of stuff but America is not really a christian country like Israel.
I suggest you watch zeitgeist. this is not a war in the traditional sense with guns, soldiers and battlefields, two sides fighting each other. there will, however, be military law and police states implemented... unless it can be prevented, and only Scientology can do that.
if they were found a few years ago then it would be easy ro make up a story about napoleon and hitler because they we know they lived. someone could have jsut made this shit about nostradamus predicting this
buddy, I really recommend you find out what you're talking about because those predictions were known about a very, very long time again. In fact Hitler used them by dropping many pamphlets on European cities containing the data while invading other countries.
This is a fantastic and amazingly written message, and I know it all to be true. There have been other ancient predictions that describe L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology as we know it. People just need to see that it's happened. It's here!
Spright, YOu don't need anyone's copies. You, Yourself have all the answers. The first application which is the fastest way to get enlightened to Spiritually is the "MIND". You can work on your body, but you may die faster than getting anything.
The Secret to freeing yourself is the mind. When you train your mind in the positive way. Semantics and Philosophy help you understand what meditive of conciousness level you are in. Its a form of communication once attained a level. Its work. :)
Do any of you actually know what the GOD OF THE LIVING, not the dead means? No. . . I AM THAT I AM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO "UNCONDITIONALLY LOVE" you can not possibly understand what anything that BUDDHA, MOSES, JESUS, MOTHER THERESA, and THE BIBLE means to say. The key LITERALLY is "training the mind". Anything can be broken/ bent. ANy parable. The kingdom of heaven, camel entering through, ect, ITS EASY.
So the names "Hitler" and "Napoleon" appear in Nostradamus's prophecies? I didn't think so. If he was such a great prophet, he would have known the names of these dictators. I don't buy into any of this nonsense. I bet not even half the BS people are claiming he predicted are even what he wrote. The man died over 400 years ago. That's more than enough time to twist, turn, and spin everything he predicted and make people think he was this great prophet.
ok sorry to say this buddy but i think that most of this is bullshit. natural disasters that are to take place in the future i can see because look at our world today. look who is destroying it. we are. and as for WWIII? the only reason it would happen is because stuff like this scares many many people around the world. it gets too deep into their head and feel like WWIII SHOULD happen and we SHOULD act it out because we are being brainwashed from that book from Rome but, this is just my opinion
okay, I hear you. I competely understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, and others also have that opinion.
but you're wrong. enlightenment does not lead to degradation. degradation is a carefully planned route by those that want to control and know that in our worst state, we are easiest enslave.
I suggest you watch the zeitgeist movie at zeitgeistmovie(dot)com and also search American Union on youtube, as well as Amero and concentration camps.
add nibiru and the new world order into it, it will happen by 2012 and after 2-3 generations of having the chip placed in us ,we will forget the reasons we had it implanted. all about the mind control now they want physical control for total control.
I only been researching all this 6 mths and have dugg so far in( nwo, lhc, mark of the beast, nibiru ect) and it all leads to god, always belevied in jesus and a higher energy but never felt it before. quite a amazing journey so far..
Point being there is "safe spots" on this earth and i belevie when the time is right the non ignorant people will be lead to these spots..
you cannot say that the martial arts concept of chi is erroneous, the understanding has allowance to that of the description. so therefore interpretation serves as the best tool for finding the way. if you are calling it something else then you are just classifying things more, these things shouldn;t be classified. feelign life is a power that is inherent in everyone for those willing to accept it, also preaching this to people is wrong as preaching is opression in some forms.
the concept is erroneous. the general idea and description of chi is very unclear and does not help people to understand. it is an exact, precise thing and it is very easy to understand, but martial artists do NOT know what it is.
yes, "preaching is oppression in some forms". You are very right... except if it enlightens and helps people to know better with more understanding of life and livingness.
Someone has been watching too many movies... I remember watching a documentary on Nostradamus about 11 or 12 years ago. He predicted the world was going to end 9 years ago. This prophecy stuff is BS.
I am just curious... What exactly makes you think your quotes and references are accurate to the future and life as we know it? The bible, books written by L.Ron, so on and so forth, are man made writings. Man cannot see into the future. The future is its own being and is unforseeable. You just CANNOT try to shove this down people's throats because it was stated somewhere. These are not facts. Nor will they ever be, they are just merely opinions and will forever remain at that.
it has long been known that the future is foreseeable, however also alterable based on knowledge of what can happen. as it says, it is now fixed, but very potential.
the future is most definite NOT a being. to say that really states your own ignorance.
but sometimes the truth MAY be scary and cause fear.
so what if someone came up to you and said 'the air has been poisoned with toxic chemicals'?
would you shun them as a crazy person or actually believe them, which obviously would make you feel a little bit afraid for you life? (unless you want to die)
obviously the person may be wrong, but why not be open minded?
what is the song that starts around the 3 minute mark?? i've been looking for the name of this and whoever does it forever and cannot find it. if anyone knows plleeeeeaaasse tell me.
Personally I don't fear a WW3 for one simple reason let some other nation bring their troops to the American soil, I live on the Texas Arizona border...do you know how many gun totting rednecks we have in these parts? please you go to any major city their will be millions of Americans shooting you, no army in the world can compare to a group of pissed off armed new yorkers.
maybe you should watch zeitgeistmovie and find out who your real enemies are (no country will be attacking you) and have a look at how your own government has been slowly disarming your nation...
a few rednecks are nothing against an armed assault of trained soldiers.
the islam are trying to take control of the world.read the coran or whatever and ull see. the France is full with them and they try to make a muslim majority in europe and with that take control of europe and with that technology..
over that.if u heard about the obama muslim thing (idc if its true) but 1 thing is for sure... hes gona bring the troops back while europe will be at war with muslims on their own territory. all fascist happenings now in Europe will turn political and a ww3 will come
I think that the universal energy known as "chi"is in fact a real thing. Quantum Mechanics is what is tying science with spiriualism. "You cannot observe the motion of matter in isolation of the consciousness, or intention of the individual." We make the world around us. I am 25 years old. I can accurately tell you that for 25 years I have been engaged in activley creating ME. "The wonderful thing about tiggers, is im the only one."- Tigger
Unfortunatley quantaum mechanics has too many holes they cannot explain, called "bugger factors" where they don't know how or why an equation comes up with a certain answer.
Otherwise, everything you're saying about your beliefs is exactly what Hubbard says, so I'm not sure what your point or disagreement is.
Not exactly better ideas. Please allow me to reiterate. I think that Robert Anton Wilson's ideas about the spirit the mind and the higher self are éasier' for me to relate to than say aliens seeding the Earth regardless of what the Sumerians wrote as history. I know for certain that ones spirit can heal ones body better than any doctor. Doctors treat symptoms, its the person who cures their "illness". Placebo works 90% better than the drug invented to cure the actual illness.
Hubbard always said that he was not the only one with ideas and did not have the best. Only that his worded for EVERYONE whereas many other people's ideas were limited in how widely accessible they were.
Aliens seeding the Earth? What are you talking about?
While yes I do agree that Nostradamus did predict real worldy events way back in the day. I look at L. Ron Hubbard as a really talented SCIENCE FICTION NOVELIST. I can however respect someone elses opinon of him. I am not a scientologist however I do beleive that people are capable of SOOOO MUCH MORE. Most people, I find think very little of themselves and refuse to take responsibility for there own lives in order to "create themselves" Robert Anton Wilson, in my opinon had better ideas.
Actually Hubbard wrote in practically every single genre possible, not only SF... and Hubbard was also a pilot, aviator, explorer (member of the Explorer's club), nuclear physicist, decorated captain of a naval vessel, humanitarian, educator and philosopher.
You guys ever notice if you type anything into youtube that is anything awesome and poetic, and reflects the truth the comments never go through? what is up with that either im paranoid or just pissed because i wrote the best thing in this comment box to date and this SOB of a damn thing didnt let it pass
And, actually, your comment isn't so great when you say, "bring it on" and how you're not afraid, and everything you're saying is from complete ingnorance of what is happening RIGHT NOW and what is about to come over the next few months.
maty0296 has a very strong point about fear! living is much easier and way more fun when you can leave fear behind and replace it with love! fear is essentially a negative feeling which can even cause physical problems(think about stress! i do agree with booitjie on the coming months/years. we live in a special time. lets see where it takes us!!!
well all i have to say about is if its gonna happen let it come im not afraid. fear is a mass controll device and even you the poster of this video are using fear to indoctrinate people into your beleifs, stop the cycle of fear, it hasnt got us anywhere in the past 6000 years. and weve probably been around longer than that. PEOPLE ON THIS VIDEO DONT LET FEAR CONTROLL YOUR THINKING AND LIVES FOR ALL THAT IS IS MEANT TO BE. Peace&GREAT love.
well I believe Nostradamus actually predicted the cooperation of the US and Russia against China and that the west would reign supreme and that life after that would be peaceful and then he just stops writing...didn't he say that...
no, he didn't. and if you think that the US and Russia will work against China then you really have no idea about the NWO and world government, do you?
He will come to expose the false topography - means exactly what it says - someone will come and reveal the location(false topography) of an ancient tomb
The urns of the tombs will be opened - refers to the egyptian pyramid findings in that tomb which revealed Gods original intent.
and the rest discribes what will happen after the finding.
Edgar Cayce revealed the location and new debates have arised through out the religious community about its meaning.
very good, but you didn't answer the question on what it means... perhaps you don't know?
However, now use your dictionary (if you have one, or go online if you don't) a bit better and find another definiton for the word topography that connects in some way to the word "philosophy" considering that that word is actually in the quatrain itself.
The word topography in context to the word philosphy that your refering to understandably means a change in the religous views but does not have any connection with "scientology" specifically. Although the change itself is indeed scientific in its nature and is a connection between the body and spirit and scientology may have adopted its use, the unification has not yet happened. The whole world will know when it does happen as the two witnesses take the stage.
Sect " A religous body of persons that have deviated from socially accepted religous beliefs.
"Thrive" to prosper
"Holy philosophy" investigation of the nature, cause or principles of reality with regard to God.
And somehow you feel that scientology by these definitions is the only orginization that can be refered to by this quatrain? My "proposed meaning" is that edgar cayce did not found scientology and is the person refered to by the quatrain.
Okay, and there is also the definition: "to grow or develop vigorously; flourish"... especially considering he said "thrive" and he did not say "prosper". Bit of a difference in idea there.
So, now please tell me where your thriving sect and holy philosophy are... considering that Scn is the faster growing movement in the world and is actually changing the face of the planet as we debate.
There are many thriving sects or Holy philosophies that have risen up in regard to edgar cayce's revelation but scientology is not one of them. This in its self denotes a deviation from the quatrain. scientology was founded by L.Ron Hubbard who had no such revelation. Edgar cayce founded A.R.E in 1931and was world renown for his propetic ability. In my understanding "sect and holy philosophy to thrive" refers to cultural shift from accepted Christain beliefs world wide and not a specific sect.
A.R.E is just one sect of many that have started due to edgar cayce's revelations and to my understanding the words "sect and holy philosophy to thrive" is a general departure of our culture from main stream christianity, not a specific sect. the fact that L.Ron hubbard did not have the revelation refered to in the quatrain leads me to believe nostradamus was not refering to a specific sect but many that would thrive due to his revelations.
Well, you know what? You are fully entitled to have your own opinion and, if that works for you and it helps you to have a better life debating the meanings of whatever revelations he found, I recommend you got ahead and live that life that you deem best and necessary for you.
However, the video stands and everything in it is based on pure fact OF WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, not what might happen, if or when.
NOTHING is debated in Scn. It is exactly the same all over the world.
I'm not debating my religous beliefs, just the quatrain. I personally find it interesting that scientology would lend itself to any prophetic nature and still call its self a science based practice. I personally hope science can shed light on all truth since the creator also created science as a means to understanding truth, but to ignore God in the process is a sure path to destruction, I also hope your path leads you to an everlasting truth, and BTW I believe every other part of your video.
Scn lends itself to no prophecy. this clip was made based on an observation by the maker of the data correlating between the book and what has happened in Scn. nothing else.
Hubbard long stated that the denunciation of God as so popular these days by science and others as being a major contributor to the fall of Man.
And yes, he did scientifically prove everything. it's part of the reason why psychiatry and the governments have attacked it so much.
"Scn lends itself to no prophecy" Except Nostradamus? You are obviously trying to relate Scn to nostradamus' quatrains by this video, which, if you are a scientologist is doing exactly that - lending yourself to prophecy to verify or give credability to scn.
yes, but that was not done "by Scientology" as you are trying to make out. you're trying to make an issue out of something that isn't there - a little perversion of the perceived reality makes for nice finger-pointing, right?
I've seen the video, I know about the fire fighters. I still believe you are being lied to about lrh being a nuclear physicist and doctor. Just because you paid to hear it, doesn't make it true. I'll bet that he doesn't even mention anything about it in his lectures, either.
If you've ever seen the movie Patch Adams, you'll know that you don't need to have the white coat or a Ph.D in order to be known as a doctor. Since when did doctor become more than a trusted friend who visited and helped the sick? If you studied Scientology, you'd understand why LRH was a doctor, because you in sense essentially become one. If you study the course, "Assists for Injuries and Illnesses", you'd know what I'm talking about.
Don't worry about it. Hubbard talks about his studies and his classmate that designed and built the u-bombs they dropped in Japan in many lectures both in the Basics and the Congresses. You'll hear them on day.
He had a PhD in nuclear physics. He DID attend the university and he DID graduate. Some SPs are putting entheta lies on the lines and attacking and so. Don't worry about it.
I don't know where you pull some of this bs out of, really. LRH created a high vitamin, many hour sweat program for detoxing the body of drugs, chemicals, radiation. all the fire-fighters and other helpers from 911 actually did that program in the NY org after suffering massive after-effects of working in the area where the buildings went down.
Many people have been cured of cancer through auditing (though not its purpose).
Yes, the lectures are available to all, but need to be paid for.
I don't have to and am not going to prove a single thing to you. You're not here to find out anything. Those doing that are going into Scn orgs org Scn sites and FINDING OUT.
Let's agree that you think it's a load of crap and leave it alone, ok? Yes, Scientologists pay for materials and services... but are also changing their lives for the better daily. Sometimes hourly. Criminals and druggies included.
Please stay and continue as you are. Scientologists' lives is nothing to do with you.
L.Ron Hubbard, a doctor and nuclear physicist? Are you kidding? Why wouldn't he mention it when asked about his past in the interviews I've seen? Perhaps because it's BS!
maybe because he didn't need to. he mentioned it in many of his early lectures and even gave whole congresses/seminars on radiation and its dangers because of the major threat of nuclear war back in the 50's and 60's
very good. well, the same guys in that movie, the Rockefellers and so on with their control of the national media both broadcast and print, are the ones behind the spreading of lies and attacks about Scn.
through investigations done by Scn hundreds of psychiatric hospitals have been closed down BY THE FBI and psychiatrists arrested and jailed and licenses removed, including the guy who "invented" the "sicknesses" called ADD and ADHD.
if that stupid book is so important,why isn`t it free?! just like the bible...why is it so hard to understand when in fact u have too fully understand it to get to heaven(if u want a bunch of people to get somewhere,most likely u give them a clear map so that they know how to get there,not some stupid shit,which they don`t have a clue about)hope u got the idea!
maybe you should try be a little more intelligent... if it was free, who would pay for its printing? how would the staff working at the company or whatever feed themselves from no salaries?
WHO is going to print the map that shows the clear route?
Do you work for free? Go try living in North Korea for a while. They know what it's like.
oh...so now i`m the stupid one...then how about the Bible? did u payd for it? well i didn`t..and no one did!and that book is printed all over the world,without no one asking money for it! so there u have it..
yes, you are, because the Catholic and other Chritian religions are amongst the richest organizations in the world... all tax free... yet none of them can agree on what Jesus said, taught, did and so on. you can take that same bible to different preachers or leaders of different religious groups and everyone of them will tell you something different.
i`m sorry stupid! but u messed up here...what does this have to do with the fact that u are rich or not?! we were talking about the fact that the bible is free of charge unlike u`r stupid book of nostradamus so learn to read and think before u type!God want`s all people to go to heaven that`s why it`s free!probably he made this posible...
so, if he is so great and just in all his doings and helpings for us to get his word for free, why is the Old Testment just a reprint of the Egyptian Book of the Dead? why is the tops of so many churches blessed with a pagan symbol (cross with a circle in the middle - the sun)? why were there originally over 160 "Ten Commandments"??
Yes, you are stupid.
and, you have completely ignored the blatant fact that your bible is totally misinterpretted by all with "their own message".
yes u are right about the churches but u`r a complete dumbass bcz all i was saying from the beggining was that nostradamus book should be for free and now u come up with history and all that shit...so u`re right but,the idiot one is you!
and from u`r comments i assume u`r a real idiot! who is paying for the bible`s printing?! do they work for free?! oh that is copyright piracy... u`r dumber than u look! the same thing should be with u`r book! it should be printed for free and given to all peoples
Ok, Look...He predicted the end of the world around like 13 times haha, I could predict the end of the world in a could hundred guesses too right? Well, pretty much anyone can. In fact, how did Nostradamus even know about skyscrapers and airplanes and all of this stuff when it was in year like 1500's? Another thing the Mayan Calender shit? what the heck I mean, Like truthfuly.
I have the book, and is written in annoying Nostradamus expressions (only French prophet knows how to tell things muddy, and the book is full of it), but: at least he got right that there will be some war...
well, you are entitled to that opinion and of course, you can read whatever you want or don't want. However it sounds to me like you've have some very bad experiences with religion being forced on your or controlled with it. Some people even give out insane punishment because of it.
But, a book can't hurt you and never could (unless used as a club). It can only tell you what someone else thought or saw and put onto paper.
Then you don't kno anything about Bush, Rockefeller, the Bilderbergers, the Bohemian society and so on.
What is happening has been decades in the making. I suggest you search the above listed items on youtube and google and find out what is actually going on.
yes, you're right. he is somewhat of an alarmist. I agree with you on that. He tends to give EVERYTHING urgent information status and so the important stuff gets hidden amongst the crap.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok Booitjie has it ever crossed your mind that maybe people have toyed with some of his prediction's over the years? I have read the book of his prediction of world war 3. It say's that "ww3 will start by Turkey destroying Greece with bialogical,nuclear and chemical weapons". It is propaganda mate the only thing that i can see leading towards ww3 is the growing tensions between the U.s,Israel and Iran. Don't let this stuff get to you man it's FAKE.
Absolutely nothing at all. I'm just giving an example of the accuracy of the predictions in the book decoded from what was written by Nostradamus after you said:
"Everyone makes assumptions and guesses what nostradamus meant by what he wrote. No one knos for sure that the eventstha took place are what nostradamus was speaking of."
Now, if you have a constructive comment to add, please do so. You seem to be losing track of the discussion/criticism that you decided to make/start.
Yes, I know. That's correct, but depending on how well they can be decoded gives us a potential view of what is to come.
In the book he says the Royal Prince will go into the middle east, return a failure but be welcomed back as a hero.
That's exactly what happened last year: he was pulled out without completing his tour/term, but regarded the hero for what he did despite his heritage and the danger of it. His tour was publicly cancelled but he went secretly.
Everyone makes assumptions and guesses what nostradamus meant by what he wrote. No one knos for sure that the eventstha took place are what nostradamus was speaking of.
And many, like yourself, try to deny the predictions he made. What I suggest you do is search on youtube for a movie called The Man Who Saw Tomorrow. It's in eight parts and narrated by Orson Wells - made in the early 1980's.
At the end you will see his prediction of 911...
Deny it as much as you like. You're only hiding from the reality of what is happening around you.
The Man Who Saw Tomorrow has 9 parts. and in the end it says that ww3 would begin sometime between 1994-1999. and that all of new york city would be blown up in 1999.
Thank you for that correction, however you missed the point of a direct reference/prediction of 911 with the flying bombs, one intercepted and so on. Nostradamus says "the new city" and they ASSUME it to be New York and the entire city destroyed. But look at the prediction.
Also, as for WW3, well, technically 2007-11 he called the Time of Troubles and, strictly speaking, if you want to look at it, the Gulf War did start them, which was the warmup to 911.
Scientology indeed... but the most high is the center of all Church where God the father will riegn and for then proclaim his holiness as king of kings and greatness for all mankind...
I don't really believe the books of Nostradamus we can find in every ordinary shop are originals. They changed a lot of things but they are still helpful to understand. Where we can find his real books? I dont know
I know it now says that, but not the first version. I think they have changed it because the author is actually expecting a massive war similar to WWI & WWII. What he doesn't know is that it HAS started and is assault on humanity and freedom by the likes of Bush, Rockeveller and the Bilderbergers. The soaring gas and food prices are a part of it. The chem-trails. The Amero. Bush giving himself virtual dictator powers. And Iran is next. It's all part of limiting your freedom and controlling you.
So hey, where do we find real info on scientology? There is maybe 20 some churches in this rural area, there was one science church but after tom cruise, it dissappeared.
Far from his land a King will lose the battle, At once escaped, pursued, then captured, Ignorant one taken under the golden mail, Under false garb, and the enemy surprised.
This video is just recruitment lies for the scientology sect.
every1 keeps whining about the end.. people have been saying the world was going to end since it began. how about spending more time enjoying this life then crying for the next one to come.. guess what.. its not. get a science book. you only live once
well, it seems you didn't finish watching the movie. I suggest you do so before you comment on it.
Also, science has absolutely no idea what life, the soul, the mind, God and so on all are. "science" rediculed all who moved forward with new ideas, like that the Earth is round, moves around the sun, etc. etc.
Maybe you should learn to think for yourself and not study from someone else's preconceived, rewritten textbook.
I'm sure that nostradamus based his predictions of what was happening in the ongoin world, if he predicted that science was going to save this world waw because he was pissed of religion, he wrote this during the enlightenment when people were leaving religion and started to explore the unknown. if he predicted famine thats because he saw the human population increasing in the next hundred years. i don't believe anything he says, i think he just based his predictions on what he saw on humans.
psycoloco111 10 months ago
@psycoloco111 actually, what you don't know is that Nostradamus did all his work in the time of the inquisition - a Spanish lead judicial body that tortured to death anybody that said anything non-religious or acknowledged the existence of anything outside of the bible - that's why everything was done in difficult to understand code, otherwise he would have just written down his predictions exactly as he saw them.
booitjie 9 months ago
@booitjie I'm sure that if that actually happened Nostradamus would have been burned to death, and his books burned with him too.
psycoloco111 9 months ago
@psycoloco111
Moron... you really don't know what you're talking about. I've met people like you before: arrogant and ignorant in your statements comparing others of vastly different times and situations to your own and wgat you see, saying there ideas/ways are/were a load of crap because it couldn't possibly have been (or be) like that... because YOU don't see it anywhere around YOU.
IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT HE CODED BECAUSE OF THE INQUISITION SO AS NOT TO BE CAUGHT AND TORTURED BY THEM !
booitjie 9 months ago
@booitjie but don't you think as soon as the church saw that they would have been looking for him, remember nothing was published without having the church aproval.
psycoloco111 9 months ago
@psycoloco111
His fellow villagers protected him. The Black Plague was big in those days, lots of disease and suffering that he was able to prevent in them by seeing into the future and knowing what was the cure. He then told them to eat/consume lots of fruit/veg high in C and so on.
What I suggest you do is go and found out about him. Videos on Youtube: The Man Who Saw Tomorrow. In +-9 parts. Made about 25-30 years ago. In there is 9/11... clear as a bell.
... he didn't predict?
booitjie 9 months ago
world war III will start in November of this year...Well that's what he said, I don't believe it but I don't not believe it either, it's very complicating because nostradamus and all his prophecies could be just a lie, we won't know until his prophecies come true in the future, they only seem to show the prophecies he predicted after the events, so that implys the fact that they wrote them after it happened.
StevenDeedle 1 year ago
@StevenDeedle
Actually he only predicted what was a strong potential to happeng, however everything had (and still has) the possibility of being averted. In the book mentioned in the video, it talks about the British Prince going to middle east, his unsuccessful return, world leader executed at time of a previously unknown meteor. The book was written before them happening, and they all happened: Prince Harry, him being sent back, and Sadam (I forget the meteor's name).
booitjie 1 year ago
theres nothing we can do , the normal regular joe on da street like u or me have no power to stop these things from hapening , they will happen ,i think it all depends on wat part of da world you live in , by da way , i think dis vid is just a load of scientology propaganda and from da stories iv heard , i wouldnt trust em as far as i could throw em ,full of deciet and sneekyness . but that dont change da fact dat the NEW WORLD ORDER has comenced phase 1 of global takeover with the lisbon treaty
mkjhagfv 1 year ago
@mkjhagfv
If it weren't for Scientology, this planet would already be a slave state with people drugged up like in the movie Equilibrium starring Christian Bale. One day, you will realise that.
Think about it: That information that you have on Scientology? It was given to you by an NWO controlled media. They control all media and what you see... just like they did with 911.
booitjie 1 year ago
Your the man! thanks for making this so inspirational at the end- wow, Jah Bless...
DMoBLoco 1 year ago
Ya,I know it's happening as there are many signs of it now but what should we do now to save ourselves and others?
Kornman9591 1 year ago
@Kornman9591
I recommend you do as the video says...
booitjie 1 year ago
that small hanfull of men are the same men that made 9/11 happen...
Turppa21 1 year ago
the biggening has a cool beat.. Bop bop bop
hphater 2 years ago
The bacterial infection;could it refere to the `swine flu`which is a global issue now?..
augustina91 2 years ago
yes, I'm thinking this is pretty much scenario or pattern of what he foresaw.
booitjie 2 years ago
Nah. Swine flu is a virus.
opiates 2 years ago
it is a show for you,
the elite have a army of criminals ready to kill, to trick people into fearing that they are doing the wrong things,
eaglestalon1 2 years ago
Like all religions, scientology is control and control is not of the Age of Aquarius. L Ron Hubbard was no genius - combining eastern myth with western science is redundant nonsense. The truth is all you need and the truth is man is his own creator, what he thinks he becomes, and if he thinks something works it does, man has full control, as the source is in man - and his true self is spirit - no true faith would charge anything for services by the way.
northmeister 2 years ago
Well, what you're saying about "as the source is in man" is basically the exact teachings (plus much more) in Scientology.
you call it nonsense because you don't know what it is, as is always the situation with the biggest critics. You haven't read a single book, so you don't know what you're talking about.
booitjie 2 years ago
@northmeister THAT IS SO NOT TRUE, man isint his own creator, somthing controls us and make us do evrything we do, first you are born, then u learn stuff, then u live based on what u learn, but if most events in your life are negative ull become negative and it isint your choice, and if ur lucky and most things happening to you are good well u become a good person and ull have somthing really bad happening but then ull get the meanings to forget, but its what u hear see and touch that makes u
makavelifollower 2 years ago
no, you're wrong. a man makes himself. this is evidenced by the fact that some people grow up in the worst situations and environments, criminal friends/family, abusive parents, etc... but they are still honest and good people.
to be totally created/effected by your environment is a very low state of being.
booitjie 2 years ago
FUCK! flatterning of ROME?!
OMG i actually live in italy, i prey this thing is not true.........
ace243757304combat 2 years ago
Well, it's a potential. The books stresses the absolute distruction of it, severe, but I think it is a potential that very possibly can happen. It also says nuclear attack in the Mediterranean, which surrounds Italy... lots of problems.
I also hope it does not happen.
booitjie 2 years ago
prey or pray, which on is it? for one of them is correct
eaglestalon1 2 years ago
i don't live in neither of those continents so im safe =)
awkando2 2 years ago
Watch video: Al Gore is Adolph Hitler....
This video is banned in some countries....
Rate, Comment , Subscribe...in my channel....
Is this video banned in your country?
andrewanguslive 2 years ago
I have looked up this topic many times and still believe in his predictions. Though instead of 2007 world war 3 is really supposed in late or early summer of 2009! He says there will first be a confrentation between isreal an iran, then the next major terrorist attack on the U.S. But to get your mind off of dooms day go to dehrules and watch some funny retarded vids.
Fatdeh24 2 years ago
thanks. yes, I think some stuff is coming down in a big way soon this year.
But, it's not "WWIII" in the conventional sense... it's the collapse of the dollar and the implementation of the New World Order.
booitjie 2 years ago
exactly World War 3 will start when the third antichrist is revealed by the end of 2012.
oldgateway 2 years ago
actually, no, I don't think it's quite like that.
booitjie 2 years ago
dude trust me if you read some of the things that nostradamus said and read the bible too you would see that the antichrist will start WWIII. you right about the collapse of the dollar and the new world order. Another thing you need to let go of this scientology stuff because its satanic. God created mankind. The 3rd antichrist is in the obama administration right now and hes giving Obama advise on what to do about the middle east. Everyone thinks its obama but its not.
oldgateway 2 years ago
yes, he will, but WWIII will not be a "war" of nations pitching their armies against each other. it will be the enslavement of mankind, which is the goal of hte NWO. and, there will be international resistance and violence.
please check about FEMA concentration camps on youtube and american union.
THAT will be WWIII.
sorry, but the disinformation that has been entered into christianity has led it way off course.
and, one day, you will find out the truth about Scientology.
booitjie 2 years ago
that makes perfect sense but either way you could still call it WWIII. You're a smart guy booitjie but you still dont quite understand. This goes way beyond science and a war. See you think this antichrist is going to be no different than hitler or that other guy but hes not. We are living in the last days. You say one day i'll find the truth about scientology and I say about 3 years from now theres going to be pure proof that it wont be too long before the second coming of our savior Jesus.
oldgateway 2 years ago
well, that's fine, and I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I think many prophecies of many different people have been adjusted to fit different followings' views.
booitjie 2 years ago
I didnt want to tell people all my info but heres a dab. The main difference between this antichrist that will be revealed in 3 years and something nostra failed to mention or couldnt see was that after this antichrist dies he will be satanically resurrected. If people would read the bible they would learn alot of stuff but America is not really a christian country like Israel.
oldgateway 2 years ago
and how are europe and asia both conquered? and north america destroyed, it contradicts itself
OwentheDrummerKid 2 years ago
I suggest you watch zeitgeist. this is not a war in the traditional sense with guns, soldiers and battlefields, two sides fighting each other. there will, however, be military law and police states implemented... unless it can be prevented, and only Scientology can do that.
booitjie 2 years ago
if they were found a few years ago then it would be easy ro make up a story about napoleon and hitler because they we know they lived. someone could have jsut made this shit about nostradamus predicting this
OwentheDrummerKid 2 years ago
buddy, I really recommend you find out what you're talking about because those predictions were known about a very, very long time again. In fact Hitler used them by dropping many pamphlets on European cities containing the data while invading other countries.
booitjie 2 years ago
look my account up,do you think this is planet X. on my security camera DATE 14/3/2009.
shooterwall 2 years ago
sorry, I wouldn't know Planet X from another, so I can't help you there.
booitjie 2 years ago
there's also a book I bought off Amazon called "Wizardia II Nostradamus codes" It's pretty good.
crazy7house 2 years ago
can you tell me about it? is it overall recommended?
asdfasdfsdfsd 2 years ago
This is a fantastic and amazingly written message, and I know it all to be true. There have been other ancient predictions that describe L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology as we know it. People just need to see that it's happened. It's here!
vinakti 2 years ago
You too are making a Profit of this Gig you shall give all humans Free copies To help Our selves
Spright0 2 years ago
I am making no profit whatsoever. I bought it as everyone else must.
Go get your own, cheapskate.
booitjie 2 years ago
Spright, YOu don't need anyone's copies. You, Yourself have all the answers. The first application which is the fastest way to get enlightened to Spiritually is the "MIND". You can work on your body, but you may die faster than getting anything.
The Secret to freeing yourself is the mind. When you train your mind in the positive way. Semantics and Philosophy help you understand what meditive of conciousness level you are in. Its a form of communication once attained a level. Its work. :)
TheGodOftheLiving 2 years ago
Do any of you actually know what the GOD OF THE LIVING, not the dead means? No. . . I AM THAT I AM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO "UNCONDITIONALLY LOVE" you can not possibly understand what anything that BUDDHA, MOSES, JESUS, MOTHER THERESA, and THE BIBLE means to say. The key LITERALLY is "training the mind". Anything can be broken/ bent. ANy parable. The kingdom of heaven, camel entering through, ect, ITS EASY.
TheGodOftheLiving 2 years ago
yes, Hubbard talks about unconditional love, as well, in an article called "What is Greatness?"
Greatness is the ability to love your fellow man despite all reasons not too.
The article, however, is a bit more lengthy than that.
booitjie 2 years ago
So the names "Hitler" and "Napoleon" appear in Nostradamus's prophecies? I didn't think so. If he was such a great prophet, he would have known the names of these dictators. I don't buy into any of this nonsense. I bet not even half the BS people are claiming he predicted are even what he wrote. The man died over 400 years ago. That's more than enough time to twist, turn, and spin everything he predicted and make people think he was this great prophet.
GreenDay1981 2 years ago
yes, he predicted Hitler and Napolean.
please watch a movie on youtube called "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow." It's in eight or nine parts.
booitjie 2 years ago
bacterialogical??
mario15054092023 2 years ago
please check the dictionary.
booitjie 2 years ago
i had somehting to say but i guess this is a free speech censored zone, comment pending approval, never seen that before
stucco001 2 years ago
if your only comments are total unadulterated lies and mud-slinging nonsense, it gets trashed.
If you have something to say, then say it. Keep your misinformed trashtalk-lies off the page.
booitjie 2 years ago
ok sorry to say this buddy but i think that most of this is bullshit. natural disasters that are to take place in the future i can see because look at our world today. look who is destroying it. we are. and as for WWIII? the only reason it would happen is because stuff like this scares many many people around the world. it gets too deep into their head and feel like WWIII SHOULD happen and we SHOULD act it out because we are being brainwashed from that book from Rome but, this is just my opinion
jambi715 2 years ago
okay, I hear you. I competely understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, and others also have that opinion.
but you're wrong. enlightenment does not lead to degradation. degradation is a carefully planned route by those that want to control and know that in our worst state, we are easiest enslave.
booitjie 2 years ago
yea yea true i see it now
jambi715 2 years ago
I suggest you watch the zeitgeist movie at zeitgeistmovie(dot)com and also search American Union on youtube, as well as Amero and concentration camps.
booitjie 2 years ago
add nibiru and the new world order into it, it will happen by 2012 and after 2-3 generations of having the chip placed in us ,we will forget the reasons we had it implanted. all about the mind control now they want physical control for total control.
lostsean2222 2 years ago
that's exactly the point. we cannot let it happen.
booitjie 2 years ago
I only been researching all this 6 mths and have dugg so far in( nwo, lhc, mark of the beast, nibiru ect) and it all leads to god, always belevied in jesus and a higher energy but never felt it before. quite a amazing journey so far..
Point being there is "safe spots" on this earth and i belevie when the time is right the non ignorant people will be lead to these spots..
lostsean2222 2 years ago
you cannot say that the martial arts concept of chi is erroneous, the understanding has allowance to that of the description. so therefore interpretation serves as the best tool for finding the way. if you are calling it something else then you are just classifying things more, these things shouldn;t be classified. feelign life is a power that is inherent in everyone for those willing to accept it, also preaching this to people is wrong as preaching is opression in some forms.
nolabeltricks 3 years ago
the concept is erroneous. the general idea and description of chi is very unclear and does not help people to understand. it is an exact, precise thing and it is very easy to understand, but martial artists do NOT know what it is.
yes, "preaching is oppression in some forms". You are very right... except if it enlightens and helps people to know better with more understanding of life and livingness.
booitjie 2 years ago
Someone has been watching too many movies... I remember watching a documentary on Nostradamus about 11 or 12 years ago. He predicted the world was going to end 9 years ago. This prophecy stuff is BS.
hibikus311 3 years ago
he has NEVER predicted the end of the world. that has merely been various idiots' twisting and exaggerating of things he did say.
booitjie 3 years ago
I am just curious... What exactly makes you think your quotes and references are accurate to the future and life as we know it? The bible, books written by L.Ron, so on and so forth, are man made writings. Man cannot see into the future. The future is its own being and is unforseeable. You just CANNOT try to shove this down people's throats because it was stated somewhere. These are not facts. Nor will they ever be, they are just merely opinions and will forever remain at that.
xItDiesTomorrowX 3 years ago
it has long been known that the future is foreseeable, however also alterable based on knowledge of what can happen. as it says, it is now fixed, but very potential.
the future is most definite NOT a being. to say that really states your own ignorance.
booitjie 3 years ago
but sometimes the truth MAY be scary and cause fear.
so what if someone came up to you and said 'the air has been poisoned with toxic chemicals'?
would you shun them as a crazy person or actually believe them, which obviously would make you feel a little bit afraid for you life? (unless you want to die)
obviously the person may be wrong, but why not be open minded?
patrickstarr999 3 years ago
what is the song that starts around the 3 minute mark?? i've been looking for the name of this and whoever does it forever and cannot find it. if anyone knows plleeeeeaaasse tell me.
pimpmasterjay85 3 years ago
O Fortuna (I think). I've answered this questions many times on here, so please check. can find the song on youtube.
booitjie 3 years ago
Personally I don't fear a WW3 for one simple reason let some other nation bring their troops to the American soil, I live on the Texas Arizona border...do you know how many gun totting rednecks we have in these parts? please you go to any major city their will be millions of Americans shooting you, no army in the world can compare to a group of pissed off armed new yorkers.
adamslurch71 3 years ago
maybe you should watch zeitgeistmovie and find out who your real enemies are (no country will be attacking you) and have a look at how your own government has been slowly disarming your nation...
a few rednecks are nothing against an armed assault of trained soldiers.
booitjie 3 years ago
the islam are trying to take control of the world.read the coran or whatever and ull see. the France is full with them and they try to make a muslim majority in europe and with that take control of europe and with that technology..
over that.if u heard about the obama muslim thing (idc if its true) but 1 thing is for sure... hes gona bring the troops back while europe will be at war with muslims on their own territory. all fascist happenings now in Europe will turn political and a ww3 will come
becoolorgetlost 2 years ago
I think that the universal energy known as "chi"is in fact a real thing. Quantum Mechanics is what is tying science with spiriualism. "You cannot observe the motion of matter in isolation of the consciousness, or intention of the individual." We make the world around us. I am 25 years old. I can accurately tell you that for 25 years I have been engaged in activley creating ME. "The wonderful thing about tiggers, is im the only one."- Tigger
friedfrawg 3 years ago
Unfortunatley quantaum mechanics has too many holes they cannot explain, called "bugger factors" where they don't know how or why an equation comes up with a certain answer.
Otherwise, everything you're saying about your beliefs is exactly what Hubbard says, so I'm not sure what your point or disagreement is.
booitjie 3 years ago
Not exactly better ideas. Please allow me to reiterate. I think that Robert Anton Wilson's ideas about the spirit the mind and the higher self are éasier' for me to relate to than say aliens seeding the Earth regardless of what the Sumerians wrote as history. I know for certain that ones spirit can heal ones body better than any doctor. Doctors treat symptoms, its the person who cures their "illness". Placebo works 90% better than the drug invented to cure the actual illness.
friedfrawg 3 years ago
Hubbard always said that he was not the only one with ideas and did not have the best. Only that his worded for EVERYONE whereas many other people's ideas were limited in how widely accessible they were.
Aliens seeding the Earth? What are you talking about?
booitjie 3 years ago
While yes I do agree that Nostradamus did predict real worldy events way back in the day. I look at L. Ron Hubbard as a really talented SCIENCE FICTION NOVELIST. I can however respect someone elses opinon of him. I am not a scientologist however I do beleive that people are capable of SOOOO MUCH MORE. Most people, I find think very little of themselves and refuse to take responsibility for there own lives in order to "create themselves" Robert Anton Wilson, in my opinon had better ideas.
friedfrawg 3 years ago
Actually Hubbard wrote in practically every single genre possible, not only SF... and Hubbard was also a pilot, aviator, explorer (member of the Explorer's club), nuclear physicist, decorated captain of a naval vessel, humanitarian, educator and philosopher.
booitjie 3 years ago
You guys ever notice if you type anything into youtube that is anything awesome and poetic, and reflects the truth the comments never go through? what is up with that either im paranoid or just pissed because i wrote the best thing in this comment box to date and this SOB of a damn thing didnt let it pass
Maty0269 3 years ago
That's because it's set for requiring approval.
And, actually, your comment isn't so great when you say, "bring it on" and how you're not afraid, and everything you're saying is from complete ingnorance of what is happening RIGHT NOW and what is about to come over the next few months.
booitjie 3 years ago
maty0296 has a very strong point about fear! living is much easier and way more fun when you can leave fear behind and replace it with love! fear is essentially a negative feeling which can even cause physical problems(think about stress! i do agree with booitjie on the coming months/years. we live in a special time. lets see where it takes us!!!
Goazbox 3 years ago
well all i have to say about is if its gonna happen let it come im not afraid. fear is a mass controll device and even you the poster of this video are using fear to indoctrinate people into your beleifs, stop the cycle of fear, it hasnt got us anywhere in the past 6000 years. and weve probably been around longer than that. PEOPLE ON THIS VIDEO DONT LET FEAR CONTROLL YOUR THINKING AND LIVES FOR ALL THAT IS IS MEANT TO BE. Peace&GREAT love.
Maty0269 3 years ago 6
The present is like a hand without fingers. The future is like the fingers. We have a choice. Prophecies are just warnigns.
soundofnothing 3 years ago
well I believe Nostradamus actually predicted the cooperation of the US and Russia against China and that the west would reign supreme and that life after that would be peaceful and then he just stops writing...didn't he say that...
4yall 3 years ago
no, he didn't. and if you think that the US and Russia will work against China then you really have no idea about the NWO and world government, do you?
booitjie 3 years ago
On november 5 -- the day after the election --in Obama's home state of IL, the evening Pick 3 lottery number was 6-6-6.
007ObiWan 3 years ago
.... are you serious? Where did you get this information?
booitjie 3 years ago
Google for Iillinois lottery - it's really true ! Although it's quite common number combination...
itecco 3 years ago
Century VII quatrain 14:
"Faux esposer viendra topographie,
Seront les cruches des monuments ouvertes:
Pulluler secte saincte philosophie,
Pour blanches, noirs, & pour antiques verts." He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old.
How on earth did you get your interpretation booitjie?
omnivisone 3 years ago
very good... now tell me what that quatrain means.
booitjie 3 years ago
He's not talking about scientology.
He will come to expose the false topography - means exactly what it says - someone will come and reveal the location(false topography) of an ancient tomb
The urns of the tombs will be opened - refers to the egyptian pyramid findings in that tomb which revealed Gods original intent.
and the rest discribes what will happen after the finding.
Edgar Cayce revealed the location and new debates have arised through out the religious community about its meaning.
omnivisone 3 years ago
very good, but you didn't answer the question on what it means... perhaps you don't know?
However, now use your dictionary (if you have one, or go online if you don't) a bit better and find another definiton for the word topography that connects in some way to the word "philosophy" considering that that word is actually in the quatrain itself.
booitjie 3 years ago
The word topography in context to the word philosphy that your refering to understandably means a change in the religous views but does not have any connection with "scientology" specifically. Although the change itself is indeed scientific in its nature and is a connection between the body and spirit and scientology may have adopted its use, the unification has not yet happened. The whole world will know when it does happen as the two witnesses take the stage.
omnivisone 3 years ago
I see.
You don't really know what you're talking about, do you? Your arguments are changing mid-course and that's not the right way to go about winning one.
I also suggest you define the words "thrive", "sect" and "holy philosophy".
Some refer to Scn as a sect and those within refer to it as a religious philosophy.
How do those words fit to your proposed meaning of the quatrain?
booitjie 3 years ago
How exactly did I change my argument?
Sect " A religous body of persons that have deviated from socially accepted religous beliefs.
"Thrive" to prosper
"Holy philosophy" investigation of the nature, cause or principles of reality with regard to God.
And somehow you feel that scientology by these definitions is the only orginization that can be refered to by this quatrain? My "proposed meaning" is that edgar cayce did not found scientology and is the person refered to by the quatrain.
omnivisone 3 years ago
Okay, and there is also the definition: "to grow or develop vigorously; flourish"... especially considering he said "thrive" and he did not say "prosper". Bit of a difference in idea there.
So, now please tell me where your thriving sect and holy philosophy are... considering that Scn is the faster growing movement in the world and is actually changing the face of the planet as we debate.
booitjie 3 years ago
There are many thriving sects or Holy philosophies that have risen up in regard to edgar cayce's revelation but scientology is not one of them. This in its self denotes a deviation from the quatrain. scientology was founded by L.Ron Hubbard who had no such revelation. Edgar cayce founded A.R.E in 1931and was world renown for his propetic ability. In my understanding "sect and holy philosophy to thrive" refers to cultural shift from accepted Christain beliefs world wide and not a specific sect.
omnivisone 3 years ago
A.R.E is just one sect of many that have started due to edgar cayce's revelations and to my understanding the words "sect and holy philosophy to thrive" is a general departure of our culture from main stream christianity, not a specific sect. the fact that L.Ron hubbard did not have the revelation refered to in the quatrain leads me to believe nostradamus was not refering to a specific sect but many that would thrive due to his revelations.
omnivisone 3 years ago
Well, you know what? You are fully entitled to have your own opinion and, if that works for you and it helps you to have a better life debating the meanings of whatever revelations he found, I recommend you got ahead and live that life that you deem best and necessary for you.
However, the video stands and everything in it is based on pure fact OF WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, not what might happen, if or when.
NOTHING is debated in Scn. It is exactly the same all over the world.
booitjie 3 years ago
I'm not debating my religous beliefs, just the quatrain. I personally find it interesting that scientology would lend itself to any prophetic nature and still call its self a science based practice. I personally hope science can shed light on all truth since the creator also created science as a means to understanding truth, but to ignore God in the process is a sure path to destruction, I also hope your path leads you to an everlasting truth, and BTW I believe every other part of your video.
omnivisone 3 years ago
Scn lends itself to no prophecy. this clip was made based on an observation by the maker of the data correlating between the book and what has happened in Scn. nothing else.
Hubbard long stated that the denunciation of God as so popular these days by science and others as being a major contributor to the fall of Man.
And yes, he did scientifically prove everything. it's part of the reason why psychiatry and the governments have attacked it so much.
booitjie 3 years ago
"Scn lends itself to no prophecy" Except Nostradamus? You are obviously trying to relate Scn to nostradamus' quatrains by this video, which, if you are a scientologist is doing exactly that - lending yourself to prophecy to verify or give credability to scn.
omnivisone 3 years ago
yes, but that was not done "by Scientology" as you are trying to make out. you're trying to make an issue out of something that isn't there - a little perversion of the perceived reality makes for nice finger-pointing, right?
if you want to discuss, keep it above the belt.
booitjie 3 years ago
I've seen the video, I know about the fire fighters. I still believe you are being lied to about lrh being a nuclear physicist and doctor. Just because you paid to hear it, doesn't make it true. I'll bet that he doesn't even mention anything about it in his lectures, either.
If you have proof, please show it.
lovelara2 3 years ago
If you've ever seen the movie Patch Adams, you'll know that you don't need to have the white coat or a Ph.D in order to be known as a doctor. Since when did doctor become more than a trusted friend who visited and helped the sick? If you studied Scientology, you'd understand why LRH was a doctor, because you in sense essentially become one. If you study the course, "Assists for Injuries and Illnesses", you'd know what I'm talking about.
7tilsleep 3 years ago
Don't worry about it. Hubbard talks about his studies and his classmate that designed and built the u-bombs they dropped in Japan in many lectures both in the Basics and the Congresses. You'll hear them on day.
He had a PhD in nuclear physics. He DID attend the university and he DID graduate. Some SPs are putting entheta lies on the lines and attacking and so. Don't worry about it.
booitjie 3 years ago
YOU ARE BEING LIED TO!
Are these the same lectures that he says smoking can cure radiation poisoning and cancer?
Are these lectures available to the public or are they just for the suckers of the cult that pay through the nose to be LIED TO?!
lrh was no doctor or nuclear physicist and you have no real proof that he was.
lovelara2 3 years ago 2
I don't know where you pull some of this bs out of, really. LRH created a high vitamin, many hour sweat program for detoxing the body of drugs, chemicals, radiation. all the fire-fighters and other helpers from 911 actually did that program in the NY org after suffering massive after-effects of working in the area where the buildings went down.
Many people have been cured of cancer through auditing (though not its purpose).
Yes, the lectures are available to all, but need to be paid for.
booitjie 3 years ago
"I don't know where you pull some of this bs out of, really."
I could say the same to you.
Please provide solid proof that lrh was a doctor and nuclear physicist.
I've seen the video of the firefighters, I know all about them. But that is not proof.
lovelara2 3 years ago
I don't have to and am not going to prove a single thing to you. You're not here to find out anything. Those doing that are going into Scn orgs org Scn sites and FINDING OUT.
Let's agree that you think it's a load of crap and leave it alone, ok? Yes, Scientologists pay for materials and services... but are also changing their lives for the better daily. Sometimes hourly. Criminals and druggies included.
Please stay and continue as you are. Scientologists' lives is nothing to do with you.
booitjie 3 years ago
Have you considered that the nuclear physicist/doctor could be Albert Einstein? or Stephen Hawkings?
lovelara2 3 years ago
Hubbard had a PhD in Nuclear Physics.
Please, you think it's all a lie. We're brainwashed. It's full of shit. Fine. You are entitled to your beliefs and we can finish on that.
booitjie 3 years ago
L.Ron Hubbard, a doctor and nuclear physicist? Are you kidding? Why wouldn't he mention it when asked about his past in the interviews I've seen? Perhaps because it's BS!
lovelara2 3 years ago 2
maybe because he didn't need to. he mentioned it in many of his early lectures and even gave whole congresses/seminars on radiation and its dangers because of the major threat of nuclear war back in the 50's and 60's
booitjie 3 years ago
During WW2, the Germans littered the streets of France with flyers quoting Nostradamus' prediction that Germany would overtake France.
Are you trying be like the Nazis and scare everyone into being a scientologist? I doubt it will work.
I put my faith in God before some cult built on lies and deception.
How can someone like L.Ron be a savior? Really?
lovelara2 3 years ago
I believe you have misinterpreted those quatrains. (It's not to difficult since he wrote them in code)
If you read the quatrains about the anti-Christ they fit scientology much better.
lovelara2 3 years ago 3
I didn't misinterpret.
if they fit Scn, then the world has absolutely nothing to fear because Hubbard is dead, right?
open your eyes. I suggest you watch zeitgeistmovie to see where the anti-Christ is coming from.
booitjie 3 years ago
I've seen Zeitgeist, great movie
lovelara2 3 years ago
very good. well, the same guys in that movie, the Rockefellers and so on with their control of the national media both broadcast and print, are the ones behind the spreading of lies and attacks about Scn.
through investigations done by Scn hundreds of psychiatric hospitals have been closed down BY THE FBI and psychiatrists arrested and jailed and licenses removed, including the guy who "invented" the "sicknesses" called ADD and ADHD.
booitjie 3 years ago
if that stupid book is so important,why isn`t it free?! just like the bible...why is it so hard to understand when in fact u have too fully understand it to get to heaven(if u want a bunch of people to get somewhere,most likely u give them a clear map so that they know how to get there,not some stupid shit,which they don`t have a clue about)hope u got the idea!
ar87ace 3 years ago
maybe you should try be a little more intelligent... if it was free, who would pay for its printing? how would the staff working at the company or whatever feed themselves from no salaries?
WHO is going to print the map that shows the clear route?
Do you work for free? Go try living in North Korea for a while. They know what it's like.
booitjie 3 years ago
oh...so now i`m the stupid one...then how about the Bible? did u payd for it? well i didn`t..and no one did!and that book is printed all over the world,without no one asking money for it! so there u have it..
ar87ace 3 years ago
yes, you are, because the Catholic and other Chritian religions are amongst the richest organizations in the world... all tax free... yet none of them can agree on what Jesus said, taught, did and so on. you can take that same bible to different preachers or leaders of different religious groups and everyone of them will tell you something different.
booitjie 3 years ago
i`m sorry stupid! but u messed up here...what does this have to do with the fact that u are rich or not?! we were talking about the fact that the bible is free of charge unlike u`r stupid book of nostradamus so learn to read and think before u type!God want`s all people to go to heaven that`s why it`s free!probably he made this posible...
ar87ace 3 years ago
so, if he is so great and just in all his doings and helpings for us to get his word for free, why is the Old Testment just a reprint of the Egyptian Book of the Dead? why is the tops of so many churches blessed with a pagan symbol (cross with a circle in the middle - the sun)? why were there originally over 160 "Ten Commandments"??
Yes, you are stupid.
and, you have completely ignored the blatant fact that your bible is totally misinterpretted by all with "their own message".
booitjie 3 years ago
yes u are right about the churches but u`r a complete dumbass bcz all i was saying from the beggining was that nostradamus book should be for free and now u come up with history and all that shit...so u`re right but,the idiot one is you!
ar87ace 3 years ago
and so that brings us back to my first response:
"... if it was free, who would pay for its printing? how would the staff working at the company or whatever feed themselves from no salaries?
"WHO is going to print the map that shows the clear route?
"Do you work for free?"
by your comments I can only assume you support copyright piracy. Well, it's legal in China. they practically work for nothing.
booitjie 3 years ago
and from u`r comments i assume u`r a real idiot! who is paying for the bible`s printing?! do they work for free?! oh that is copyright piracy... u`r dumber than u look! the same thing should be with u`r book! it should be printed for free and given to all peoples
ar87ace 3 years ago 2
it's not my book. and besides, many, many hours of taxed work and labour was put into it, something the church doesn't have.
booitjie 3 years ago
Ok, Look...He predicted the end of the world around like 13 times haha, I could predict the end of the world in a could hundred guesses too right? Well, pretty much anyone can. In fact, how did Nostradamus even know about skyscrapers and airplanes and all of this stuff when it was in year like 1500's? Another thing the Mayan Calender shit? what the heck I mean, Like truthfuly.
zeroskaterenjoi 3 years ago
what an interesting contradiction in terms.
booitjie 3 years ago
THIS IS TRUE?! wrong countries of course.. nuclear war as of 14th of august 2008.
Russia - Poland - America - Georgia. and possibly alot more involved if Russia DO use nukes.
RSmusic1994 3 years ago
YES!WARNNIG,NOW IS IN POLAND!
ricardomacgiver29 3 years ago
I have the book, and is written in annoying Nostradamus expressions (only French prophet knows how to tell things muddy, and the book is full of it), but: at least he got right that there will be some war...
oztronix 3 years ago
great, but if you apply it to the current situation, you will see that they decoded some things wrong... and where the anti-Christ comes from.
booitjie 3 years ago
well, you are entitled to that opinion and of course, you can read whatever you want or don't want. However it sounds to me like you've have some very bad experiences with religion being forced on your or controlled with it. Some people even give out insane punishment because of it.
But, a book can't hurt you and never could (unless used as a club). It can only tell you what someone else thought or saw and put onto paper.
It's up to you whether you believe it or not.
booitjie 3 years ago
The only chance of WW3 ever happening is if McCain is elected.
Riseagainst117 3 years ago
Then you don't kno anything about Bush, Rockefeller, the Bilderbergers, the Bohemian society and so on.
What is happening has been decades in the making. I suggest you search the above listed items on youtube and google and find out what is actually going on.
Also check Alex Jones.
booitjie 3 years ago
Ales Jones Is A trojan Horse AkA ALARMIST
If you want to know a true patriot look up william cooper.
Rebel4Life69 3 years ago 2
yes, you're right. he is somewhat of an alarmist. I agree with you on that. He tends to give EVERYTHING urgent information status and so the important stuff gets hidden amongst the crap.
I'll check him out.
booitjie 3 years ago
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok Booitjie has it ever crossed your mind that maybe people have toyed with some of his prediction's over the years? I have read the book of his prediction of world war 3. It say's that "ww3 will start by Turkey destroying Greece with bialogical,nuclear and chemical weapons". It is propaganda mate the only thing that i can see leading towards ww3 is the growing tensions between the U.s,Israel and Iran. Don't let this stuff get to you man it's FAKE.
fartsinthebath 3 years ago
if Nostradamus predicted Ron L Hubbard , then both are FAKE.
But, you may know , I personally admire Ron L Hubbard , he was a geat bussiness man
jerrimo123 3 years ago
The only thing that's fake is your poor attempt at intelligence and sincerity. It's really quite unpleasant.
And, try not to contradict yourself. It only takes you lower.
booitjie 3 years ago
Absolutely nothing at all. I'm just giving an example of the accuracy of the predictions in the book decoded from what was written by Nostradamus after you said:
"Everyone makes assumptions and guesses what nostradamus meant by what he wrote. No one knos for sure that the eventstha took place are what nostradamus was speaking of."
Now, if you have a constructive comment to add, please do so. You seem to be losing track of the discussion/criticism that you decided to make/start.
booitjie 3 years ago
Who are you speaking of?
jugs25 3 years ago
The Royal Prince? That would be the British Royal Prince, Prince Harry. His going is in the book.
booitjie 3 years ago
and what do you believe prince harry is going to cause?
jugs25 3 years ago
i think is a very true documentary
PuNkRoCker645 3 years ago
Have you read Nostradamus's actual writings? The whole documentary and what people say in books are interpretations.
jugs25 3 years ago
Yes, I know. That's correct, but depending on how well they can be decoded gives us a potential view of what is to come.
In the book he says the Royal Prince will go into the middle east, return a failure but be welcomed back as a hero.
That's exactly what happened last year: he was pulled out without completing his tour/term, but regarded the hero for what he did despite his heritage and the danger of it. His tour was publicly cancelled but he went secretly.
booitjie 3 years ago
Everyone makes assumptions and guesses what nostradamus meant by what he wrote. No one knos for sure that the eventstha took place are what nostradamus was speaking of.
jugs25 3 years ago
And many, like yourself, try to deny the predictions he made. What I suggest you do is search on youtube for a movie called The Man Who Saw Tomorrow. It's in eight parts and narrated by Orson Wells - made in the early 1980's.
At the end you will see his prediction of 911...
Deny it as much as you like. You're only hiding from the reality of what is happening around you.
booitjie 3 years ago
The Man Who Saw Tomorrow has 9 parts. and in the end it says that ww3 would begin sometime between 1994-1999. and that all of new york city would be blown up in 1999.
jugs25 3 years ago
Thank you for that correction, however you missed the point of a direct reference/prediction of 911 with the flying bombs, one intercepted and so on. Nostradamus says "the new city" and they ASSUME it to be New York and the entire city destroyed. But look at the prediction.
Also, as for WW3, well, technically 2007-11 he called the Time of Troubles and, strictly speaking, if you want to look at it, the Gulf War did start them, which was the warmup to 911.
booitjie 3 years ago
Scientology indeed... but the most high is the center of all Church where God the father will riegn and for then proclaim his holiness as king of kings and greatness for all mankind...
tolstoiii 3 years ago
Well, this book can be gotten at nostradamusonline(dot)com.
booitjie 3 years ago
I don't really believe the books of Nostradamus we can find in every ordinary shop are originals. They changed a lot of things but they are still helpful to understand. Where we can find his real books? I dont know
pretieststar 3 years ago
its 2008-2012
KKKKING18 3 years ago
I know it now says that, but not the first version. I think they have changed it because the author is actually expecting a massive war similar to WWI & WWII. What he doesn't know is that it HAS started and is assault on humanity and freedom by the likes of Bush, Rockeveller and the Bilderbergers. The soaring gas and food prices are a part of it. The chem-trails. The Amero. Bush giving himself virtual dictator powers. And Iran is next. It's all part of limiting your freedom and controlling you.
booitjie 3 years ago
So hey, where do we find real info on scientology? There is maybe 20 some churches in this rural area, there was one science church but after tom cruise, it dissappeared.
Batznblkcatz 3 years ago
okay. very good. so that was the coded message.
Now, what does it mean?
booitjie 3 years ago
Quatrain 14, centrury VII actually says:
Far from his land a King will lose the battle, At once escaped, pursued, then captured, Ignorant one taken under the golden mail, Under false garb, and the enemy surprised.
This video is just recruitment lies for the scientology sect.
mikaelisaksson 3 years ago
every1 keeps whining about the end.. people have been saying the world was going to end since it began. how about spending more time enjoying this life then crying for the next one to come.. guess what.. its not. get a science book. you only live once
eaj07003 3 years ago
well, it seems you didn't finish watching the movie. I suggest you do so before you comment on it.
Also, science has absolutely no idea what life, the soul, the mind, God and so on all are. "science" rediculed all who moved forward with new ideas, like that the Earth is round, moves around the sun, etc. etc.
Maybe you should learn to think for yourself and not study from someone else's preconceived, rewritten textbook.
booitjie 3 years ago
hi i'm wondering if you are scientology ?
athlom 3 years ago
The Church of Scientology had nothing to do with this movie's production and posting on youtube.
booitjie 3 years ago
yes.... 2007-2012
well ww3 hasnt starterd yet has it??
and were in 2008
SawMovie08 3 years ago
yes, it very most definitely has started. it's happening all around you if you know what you're looking at and what's really happening.
this is a very major war waged on humanity by the likes of those who want total control and the complete removal of your freedom.
check Alex Jones on youtube and you'll get a lot of data on what is happening all over on a daily basis.
booitjie 3 years ago
I'm a Scientologist and I can't get enough of this video. I love it. LRH WAS the Maitreya, he smiled and looks exactly like him.
Peace and love to everyone, and may you be spiritually enlightened and free one day!
7tilsleep 3 years ago