@andrija1978 That's right "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church." -St.Augustine
FYI, yesterday in my country the results of a long investigation were published. Turns out over the past 50 yeas, Catholic pedophile priests raped around 20.000 children. The church leaders knew, kept it under the rug and didn't stop it from happening again.
Hallelujah indeed..... the Catholic Church makes me vomit.
@henkvanderlaak Scandal does not negate truth. The child molestation scandal is disgusting, but the relatively few Clergymen who participated in this compared to the hundreds and hundred of thousands of Bishops, Priests, and Deacons of the Universal Church in all Rites, do not therefore make all of the rest of the Clergy evil, nor do they make the Catholic Church evil. That's like saying the extended family, friends, and community of a murderer are all murderers by association.
@pj100003 To be fair, you're ignoring the fact that the church played an important part in this scandel by covering it up. Hundreds and thousands of children have been violated by this and the church hieracy let it go on unchecked. Instead of seroiusly asking why you want to deflect the issue with defensiveness
You're analogy is simply wrong. Its like the police and courts letting a murderer go free to kill again becuase they are somehow 'on the same side'. How can you not see this?
@gedt123 Covering up a crime is a crime in itself. We have laws spercifically about this.
The church tried to protect itself. This is illegal, if they cant live by the laws that the rest of us have to live by, and be seen to do so, then they have no place telling me anything about morailty or justice or anything else.
@pj100003 I'm not sure you understand how wrong you are, let me explain.
You are setting up the false notion that people generally think that all clergymen are rapists. You think that by destroying that stawman, you have in some way won the argument.
It is the institution itself which allows rapists to florise within it that is to blame. It is the institution which protects itself rather than the people it supposedly cares for which is to blame. The church itself is to blame.
@henkvanderlaak What happened to all those children is an absolute nightmare, and the way it was covered up is an abomination. It does remind us that our leaders are human, and some of them very corrupt humans at that. But it says nothing about whether or not the teachings are true. What is truly amazing is that the Church is still here, still bringing people to God and still true to her original teachings, after 2000 years of having countless corrupt leaders. That is a miracle.
@henkvanderlaak Only human individuals are capable of moral acts. The depersonalization of morality which is evident by a statement like the Catholic Church did this is evidence of the sickness of the culture which developed in pockets of the Western church. This was not because those terrible Bishops and priest were following and living out the faith, but because they had turned away in their hearts
Tksmurf, that system of 'doing something if the Bible says so, not doing something if I can't find it' is bad because it virtually guarantees heresy of some kind. Theologians in the Universal Church (23 Rites encompassing 2000 years of history) have been studying the Scriptures, as guided by the Holy Spirit, and know far more than any individual Christian. Wisdom knows to learn humbly, and not consider yourself wise enough to make your own Christianity.
So Chris, Protestants are Christians. Let's always speak the Truth, with fervor, but minus generalizations. Tksmurf, all Baptized Christians not living in mortal sin are imperfectly our brethren (speaking as a Catholic). As such, we ought to stand in solidarity with then against our society, although don't expect Catholics to compromise Truth for it. Holy Communion is a participation in the Body and Blood of Christ and is the Fruit of the Tree of Life, the Cross. Believe, and Partake.
@pj100003 To be a Christian, one needs to follow Christ, right? Christ does command us to drink His Precious Blood and eat His Flesh to have Eternal Life. Protestants think that's a "symbol" and don't do it. They are not following Christ there. Hence, they are not Christians. They might THINK they are (I can think I am the coolest drummer ever, but to think and to BE are two different things)
@ChrisDaron Dude.. Look in any Catechism. Any person, whether Catholic, protestant, Clergy or laity, can validly administer the one Baptism of the Catholic Church in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. There's one Baptism, but in each of the 30,000 to 40,000 protestant denominations that Baptizes in this manner, they are administering valid Baptisms and those who are Baptized, were they to die immediately afterward, would go to Heaven. I mentioned belief not because..
@ChrisDaron ..it's sufficient in any way to make someone a Christian, but rather, because it's a necessary precursor to being saved through Baptism. SO what you have (this is not my opinion; this is Church teaching) is the Catholic Sacrament being received by anyone who decided to believe in Christ AND be Baptized, even Baptized protestants. Therefore, Baptized protestants are Christians and Baptized into the Body of Christ, and will go to the Beatific Vision of God should they die in a state..
@ChrisDaron ..of Grace. Now, with regards to your comment about the Eucharist. Yes, he who eats His Body and drinks His Blood has eternal life - but just because somebody has not done so does yet not de facto exclude them from eternal life. The Eucharist is salvific, it does save the person who partakes of it. Someone, however, who is lacking that Communion with Christ but who has been Baptized is saved until they commit a mortal sin. Of course we have to follow Christ home to the Eucharist..
@pj100003 Jesus left His Church and the Sacraments for a reason. The bible (not capital "B" because they have it incomplete) was compiled and made my the Catholic Church, and it's what they follow only.... isn't it ironic that they practically "eat" a bible to attack the Catholic Church when it's THE CHURCH that wrote it?
... And their clergy/pastors/elders not having access to Apostolic Succession through Holy Orders is the cause of the lack of the preceding Graces, making Protestant faith communities essentially unauthoritative, hodge-podges of heretical notions and unorthodox opinions, as well as making it a Lot harder to get to Heaven because of the lack of aforementioned Grace to overcome sin.
Protestants are Christians because of two things: they have valid Sacramental Baptisms, and they believe in Christ. It's as simple as that. Not having access to Confirmation, the Eucharist, Confession, Sacramental Matrimony, and Last Rites close them off from all of the normal means of the Grace of Christ reaching them...
@pj100003 Nope. There's only ONE baptism. Not 40, 000. So just by "believing" in Christ makes you Christian? that's too easy. Because even Atheists acknowledge Christ, and they are not Christian.
@ChrisDaron lol this is whats destroying our world, protestants and catholics cant keep jibing each other, prots arent christians because they deny eucharist(bread being actually christs flesh and wine being his actual blood). and rcc's arent christians because they dont like scripture, stop it. thats why atheism and agnosticism is on the rise, because there is no unity and brotherhood amongst christians. prots take commmunion in remembrance of the blood and flesh they dont think it is blood.
@Naturalhit those are the stereotypes and the rcc doesnt claim that title alone the orthodox church says they put it together as well. but in the eyes of protestants they follow ritual and tradition more than the basics in the bible. when you go to mass do you read a bible alongside the preist?. prots are sola scriptura period if the bible says do something they do it, if the rcc says something they feel doesnt correlate with the scripture they dont do it period. whats so bad about that lol?
truly beautiful.
Pax Christi+
iosacriost 4 weeks ago
Great video :)
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Catholic Church, the only Church Jesus founded.
andrija1978 2 months ago
@andrija1978 That's right "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church." -St.Augustine
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
the catholic church is the safest place in the world for children.
i use science (numbers)
if i used witch science (making my decision based on news headlines) then i would think something else.
ned262626 2 months ago
FYI, yesterday in my country the results of a long investigation were published. Turns out over the past 50 yeas, Catholic pedophile priests raped around 20.000 children. The church leaders knew, kept it under the rug and didn't stop it from happening again.
Hallelujah indeed..... the Catholic Church makes me vomit.
henkvanderlaak 2 months ago
@henkvanderlaak The Catholic Church also makes Satan vomit. You have that in common with him.
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron
And what's your valued opion on the clergymen who are responsible for the 20.000 raped children?
henkvanderlaak 2 months ago
@henkvanderlaak Scandal does not negate truth. The child molestation scandal is disgusting, but the relatively few Clergymen who participated in this compared to the hundreds and hundred of thousands of Bishops, Priests, and Deacons of the Universal Church in all Rites, do not therefore make all of the rest of the Clergy evil, nor do they make the Catholic Church evil. That's like saying the extended family, friends, and community of a murderer are all murderers by association.
pj100003 2 months ago
@pj100003 To be fair, you're ignoring the fact that the church played an important part in this scandel by covering it up. Hundreds and thousands of children have been violated by this and the church hieracy let it go on unchecked. Instead of seroiusly asking why you want to deflect the issue with defensiveness
You're analogy is simply wrong. Its like the police and courts letting a murderer go free to kill again becuase they are somehow 'on the same side'. How can you not see this?
gedt123 2 months ago
@gedt123 Covering up a crime is a crime in itself. We have laws spercifically about this.
The church tried to protect itself. This is illegal, if they cant live by the laws that the rest of us have to live by, and be seen to do so, then they have no place telling me anything about morailty or justice or anything else.
gedt123 2 months ago
@pj100003 I'm not sure you understand how wrong you are, let me explain.
You are setting up the false notion that people generally think that all clergymen are rapists. You think that by destroying that stawman, you have in some way won the argument.
It is the institution itself which allows rapists to florise within it that is to blame. It is the institution which protects itself rather than the people it supposedly cares for which is to blame. The church itself is to blame.
gedt123 2 months ago
@henkvanderlaak What happened to all those children is an absolute nightmare, and the way it was covered up is an abomination. It does remind us that our leaders are human, and some of them very corrupt humans at that. But it says nothing about whether or not the teachings are true. What is truly amazing is that the Church is still here, still bringing people to God and still true to her original teachings, after 2000 years of having countless corrupt leaders. That is a miracle.
KateriofMnisota 2 months ago 2
@henkvanderlaak Only human individuals are capable of moral acts. The depersonalization of morality which is evident by a statement like the Catholic Church did this is evidence of the sickness of the culture which developed in pockets of the Western church. This was not because those terrible Bishops and priest were following and living out the faith, but because they had turned away in their hearts
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Tksmurf, that system of 'doing something if the Bible says so, not doing something if I can't find it' is bad because it virtually guarantees heresy of some kind. Theologians in the Universal Church (23 Rites encompassing 2000 years of history) have been studying the Scriptures, as guided by the Holy Spirit, and know far more than any individual Christian. Wisdom knows to learn humbly, and not consider yourself wise enough to make your own Christianity.
pj100003 2 months ago
So Chris, Protestants are Christians. Let's always speak the Truth, with fervor, but minus generalizations. Tksmurf, all Baptized Christians not living in mortal sin are imperfectly our brethren (speaking as a Catholic). As such, we ought to stand in solidarity with then against our society, although don't expect Catholics to compromise Truth for it. Holy Communion is a participation in the Body and Blood of Christ and is the Fruit of the Tree of Life, the Cross. Believe, and Partake.
pj100003 2 months ago
@pj100003 To be a Christian, one needs to follow Christ, right? Christ does command us to drink His Precious Blood and eat His Flesh to have Eternal Life. Protestants think that's a "symbol" and don't do it. They are not following Christ there. Hence, they are not Christians. They might THINK they are (I can think I am the coolest drummer ever, but to think and to BE are two different things)
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron Dude.. Look in any Catechism. Any person, whether Catholic, protestant, Clergy or laity, can validly administer the one Baptism of the Catholic Church in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. There's one Baptism, but in each of the 30,000 to 40,000 protestant denominations that Baptizes in this manner, they are administering valid Baptisms and those who are Baptized, were they to die immediately afterward, would go to Heaven. I mentioned belief not because..
pj100003 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron ..it's sufficient in any way to make someone a Christian, but rather, because it's a necessary precursor to being saved through Baptism. SO what you have (this is not my opinion; this is Church teaching) is the Catholic Sacrament being received by anyone who decided to believe in Christ AND be Baptized, even Baptized protestants. Therefore, Baptized protestants are Christians and Baptized into the Body of Christ, and will go to the Beatific Vision of God should they die in a state..
pj100003 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron ..of Grace. Now, with regards to your comment about the Eucharist. Yes, he who eats His Body and drinks His Blood has eternal life - but just because somebody has not done so does yet not de facto exclude them from eternal life. The Eucharist is salvific, it does save the person who partakes of it. Someone, however, who is lacking that Communion with Christ but who has been Baptized is saved until they commit a mortal sin. Of course we have to follow Christ home to the Eucharist..
pj100003 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron ..and those protestants who are saved will probably follow the Graces of their Baptism to the Church to receive Our Lord.
pj100003 2 months ago
@pj100003 Jesus left His Church and the Sacraments for a reason. The bible (not capital "B" because they have it incomplete) was compiled and made my the Catholic Church, and it's what they follow only.... isn't it ironic that they practically "eat" a bible to attack the Catholic Church when it's THE CHURCH that wrote it?
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
... And their clergy/pastors/elders not having access to Apostolic Succession through Holy Orders is the cause of the lack of the preceding Graces, making Protestant faith communities essentially unauthoritative, hodge-podges of heretical notions and unorthodox opinions, as well as making it a Lot harder to get to Heaven because of the lack of aforementioned Grace to overcome sin.
pj100003 2 months ago
Protestants are Christians because of two things: they have valid Sacramental Baptisms, and they believe in Christ. It's as simple as that. Not having access to Confirmation, the Eucharist, Confession, Sacramental Matrimony, and Last Rites close them off from all of the normal means of the Grace of Christ reaching them...
pj100003 2 months ago
@pj100003 Nope. There's only ONE baptism. Not 40, 000. So just by "believing" in Christ makes you Christian? that's too easy. Because even Atheists acknowledge Christ, and they are not Christian.
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
Sorry about the former comment. It was a bad joke that I didn't think through. I blame the weather. lol Take care.
thornisdan 2 months ago
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thornisdan 2 months ago
There's definitely no Christ anywhere else outside His Church. Protestantism denies His Blood and Flesh, therefore they are not Christians.
Welcome home, once again, Kat! =)
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
@ChrisDaron lol this is whats destroying our world, protestants and catholics cant keep jibing each other, prots arent christians because they deny eucharist(bread being actually christs flesh and wine being his actual blood). and rcc's arent christians because they dont like scripture, stop it. thats why atheism and agnosticism is on the rise, because there is no unity and brotherhood amongst christians. prots take commmunion in remembrance of the blood and flesh they dont think it is blood.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf RCC don't like Scripture??? When they are the ones that put the Bible together. THe Mass itself is all scriptural from beginning to the end.
Communion is not a symbol.
Naturalhit 2 months ago
@Naturalhit those are the stereotypes and the rcc doesnt claim that title alone the orthodox church says they put it together as well. but in the eyes of protestants they follow ritual and tradition more than the basics in the bible. when you go to mass do you read a bible alongside the preist?. prots are sola scriptura period if the bible says do something they do it, if the rcc says something they feel doesnt correlate with the scripture they dont do it period. whats so bad about that lol?
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf I see what you mean. I apologize.
Naturalhit 2 months ago
@tksmurf Want unity? then Protestants should come home. That's how we can be united. Protestants need to stop protesting the Truth.
ChrisDaron 2 months ago
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thornisdan 2 months ago