@TheJboy88 i said something similar on RLM a year ago. It's a problem with all the prequels - no good antagonist(s). Maul is a mystery, Dooku is barely seen and fought only twice, Grievous is a complete unknown, and no one knew Palpatine was a Sith until ROTS was almost over and by that time it was too late.
4:45 my theory why the jedi would be so experienced in sword fighting even though the sith are extinct is that the Jedi are kind of like a Martial art and just like how Martial artist train with weapons like swords even though using swords in this day and age is kind of useless because we have guns but since sword fighting is like a tradition I expect it is the same with the Jedi they continue to train in sword fighting because it's part of their tradition.
i think the location and hill for the ep3 fight was the right setting if u wanted to see how Anakin ended up having to wear the Vader suit, but i guess the fight could've been just a mere 10 min
an explanation for why they know how to sword fight despite the Sith being extinct is easy. Dark Jedi! A Sith isnt a mere dark jedi, they follow an ancient ideal of a superior being, an all mighty force user. Jedi can still be evil and not be considered sith, like those who are just simple assholes, choosing not to follow an ancient ideal. And i bet the jedi practice sword fighting with each other.
As hilarious and actuate as this review is, the reason obi won didn't run fast during the fight is explained in the video "What if Obi Won had used force Speed"
Wow I forgot that Darth Maul was in this film, yet they put his fall ALL OVER TPM 3D posters, even though he only gets like 5 lines of dialogue and we really know absolutely nothing about him outside of TPM. The ending should've been that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon find Darth Sidious in a room, however, out of nowhere Maul arrives and keeps them away from Sidious whilst he escapes. Sidious should've really made a physical appearance in this film and not just as a hologram the whole way through.
Peaceful people that hide laser guns in the armrests of their chair in the throne room? LOL Qui Gon dies and Obi Wan gets mad. Hey, maybe now this will start to get good. LOL! A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing. Wait! Did YOU say that?
They then go from the palace to THIS room. What is this room? Is this in the palace? I know George wanted the Jedi to fight in a cool place that's all Star Warsy, so what, this is like a power generator? What does it power the universe? So you're expecting me to believe that the npeople who built this technological wonder were dying without space supplies for 2 days? They run fast to get out of dangerous situations. But never again...uh, yeah. That would've been a good time. LOL
We will work to find out more about your attacker. Go back with the Queen to Naboo and find out more about this dark lord. Uh...wait. I thought that you were going to...uh, never mind. LOVE the cartoon music at 1 minute into this video. LOL We can't use our powers to help the queen. You did it before asshole! ROFLMAO! So the kid hides in the cockpit of a fighter. Gee, I wonder what's going to happen next? LOL Wait! Why is a their a child-sized helmet and goggles in the cockpit? ROTFLMAO!
That quote from young George at the end makes me feel sorry for him. He ,one way or another, completely lost his artistic integrity over the years. I was 8 when phantom menace came out and even then I preferred the original movies to it.
Wait, wait... GEORGE LUCAS said "A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." So he made 3 abominations of movies to emphasize that fact, it all makes sense!
imagine if plinkett went to a tpm 3D showing and began shouting out his criticisms, better yet, what if he hackes the projector and the screen displays this entire video instead of tpm
@avidwriter Wrong. Hollywood had already a great history of fighting choreography when A New Hope was released. And the duel between Ben and Vader was still horrible.
@MrJedabak And you got your wish with flying elderly men in episodes 2 and 3 jesus you must hate realism and art you just see things as they are and lo and behold you'd feel the same way if it was the other way around. I felt that the prequel fights were pretty, too pretty because there was no past history and nothing at stake to care. You can't really say that oh obiwan cared when quigon died, sure but then he goes to doing more of that great choreography you seem to value soo much in film.
@MrJedabak I have actually and I still feel the same way I do because I still prefer depth/story in fights like the original star wars trilogy over, unrealistic perfectly timed fights with nothing other than to look cool like in the prequels. That is just my opinion.
@Jaegar19Ultima RLM is wrong here. The people who made this review have no knowledge of anything except Hollywood films where action are not that great. RLM confuses boring and uninteresting choreography as "correct" and when action choreography is created that is exciting and interesting these goofballs have a problem because they need something else to bitch about. The fact he thought the duel in the first SW was great shows he does not know what he's talking about.
@DaRunningMan No one is denying that awesome fight choreography is awesome. But did you even watch this portion of the review? Like, at all? RLM never said "boring" choreography was correct. He was making a point that, while the Episode I choreography is very good, it's hard to be invested in it when you don't really care about the characters and there is nothing at stake. Every scene in a movie should move the story forward...else it becomes boring and pointless...get it? Or are you trolling?
@VforVideo Of course I saw this portion of the review. Did you? RLM is literally complaining about the choreography. He even uses a totally nonsensical phrase to insult it calling it "highly choreographed". He understands nothing about combat and fight choreography. He actually defended the horrible light saber duel of the 1st Star Wars claiming that anyone that didn't like it didn't get it. Just cause the 1st SW movie was better than TPM doesn't mean everything in it was perfect.
@DaRunningMan Well, it's RLM, myself, and (apparently) the rest of the internet vs you. Again, I don't think he is insulting the choreography. He is only pointing out how absurd it is because the perfection in the fight scenes sterilize everything. It's like Lucas ONLY cared about cool choreography instead of giving us a story. If that's your thing, fine...but the rest of us want a real story with real characters...that's all bro.
@VforVideo "Well, it's RLM, myself, and (apparently) the rest of the internet vs you"
That's not only a childish mentality, it's also a logic fallacy. "Argumentum ad populum". Look it up and know what it means because it's incorrect reasoning that you are using.
Also, RLM in the video is insulting the fight by calling it "highly choreographed" which is nonsensical because ALL movie fights are choreographed. His comparison with ROJ is also bad because it was a different situation.
@DaRunningMan And the "horrible light saber duel" in a new hope IS actually more interesting because it serves something called a STORY. It's not just a fight scene for the sake of a fight scene. Yes, the fighting itself is poor and slow...but that's why RLM says it's IRONIC (look it up) that the slow, clumsy, fight is actually MORE INTERESTING than the fights in the prequels. It's more interesting because those fights serve the story, they aren't just fights for the sake of fights. Get it yet?
@VforVideo No, the duel in New Hope is bad. RLM doesn't argue irony. He literally says that if you didn't like the New Hope duel you "didn't get it". No, I did get it. It was just a poorly realized scene. Again, just because the story and overall movie is better doesn't mean every single aspect of it is better. A better script doesn't make a bad swordfight good. In fact, it only frustrates because one wishes that the good story had a great duel to back it up.
I agree. Most of what this guys says is accurate and I do enjoy his sense of humor but it is absurd to say that choreography does not matter. Both the Phantom Menace and A New Hope have terrible fight scenes, but the reason for their relative worthlessness is different. Phantom Menace's failure to develop its characters and having a duel that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie is why the fight is forgettable...
@powereddrive Good to see another person with a sensible view on this. :-) Just because A New Hope has a better script doesn't make the light saber duel in it good. It's horrible. It frustrates me because I'd like to see great duels with a great script. So just because the script is good it means you don't need to make the duels good when duels occur in them? That's nonsensical. Just because A New Hope is a better movie than TPM doesn't mean it's a perfect movie. RLM is wrong here.
@DaRunningMan im having a little trouble trying to understand what you said there: you said you prefer movies with good scripts and not so great sword-fight scenes, or you prefer movies with terrible and stupid scripts but nice choreographed sword-fights?
@Akron162 I'm not talking about either of those things. I'm saying that RLM is wrong on this whole point. There was nothing wrong with the fight choreography in TPM. Not liking the story and not caring for the characters is not the fault of the fight choreography. And just because the script was better in A New Hope does not make that duel good.
@DaRunningMan i think the point was that they could have put some emotion in the fight scenes and not just turn it in some modern dance act. i think what he said is that the fights in the original ones were better becouse they make you emotionally involved, and in the new ones, even if they look pretty, are not different from dancing with the stars.
@Akron162 And he's wrong. They don't look like dancing but like they are extremely good at fencing going at it. RLM has no knowledge of action cinema or even combat. It's obvious that they don't watch movies outside of Hollywood because Hong Kong action for example has very intense and intricate choreography while usually Hollywood's are usually lackluster. Since RLM is used to lame action they think that is correct when it isn't. And a choreographer isn't at fault for a bad script.
@DaRunningMan Actually, the point of the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader was to set Luke Skywalker firmly on the road to become a Jedi. In fact, you can contrast the way the old Jedi Order dealt with the Sith versus how Luke ultimately defeated them. In the former, the Jedi fought the Emperor and Vader and lost, while Luke chose the path of peace to defeat the Emperor and win back his Vader. Thus, fighting didn't solve anything; grace did.
@dswynne Don't know where you are getting this idea of Luke choosing peace and grace. Peace and grace had nothing to do with it. A entire wars were fought in the original trilogy. Both Death Stars are attacked and blown up. The Emperor gets killed and the Sith are also killed off.
@DaRunningMan U misunderstand.In this context, 'grace' simply means "self-realization", when Luke realized that he was becoming his father after defeating him, and 'peace' is the path Luke took when he threw away his lightsaber, after refusing to kill him.Luke knew that had he got his earned revenge, he couldn't be the Jedi that his father was suppose to be.Remember, Ani was about forcing others to see things his way, while Luke didn't, proving that the Sith's ways were wrong.
@dswynne You're arguing about things that have nothing to do with my point. I'm not arguing what themes were at play during certain scenes in Star Wars. What I am arguing is that there was nothing wrong with the lightsaber duel scene in TPM in terms of fight choreography. RLM is wrong. The lightsaber duel in A New Hope was bad in all areas. Just because the script is better in that movie doesn't make the badly done lightsaber duel in it better.
@DaRunningMan I understand that. I was simply explaining the reason for why RLM felt that the fight choreography in TPM was lacking when compared to the fight choreography in RotJ. Personally, I didn't think that any of the fight scenes in the SW franchise were bad or good, but rather served the purpose of bridging the scenes, which is why I disagree with RLM's characterization of the fight between Yoda and Count Dooku, and was used to demonstrate why Yoda was a venerable Jedi.
@dswynne "I was simply explaining the reason for why RLM felt that the fight choreography in TPM was lacking when compared to the fight choreography in RotJ. "
And that's why RLM is wrong. They don't understand that it has nothing to do with the realization of the scene. You can have a great story but if the time comes for a fight scene and it's bad then it's bad. It doesn't because "good" because the story around it is good. It's a badly done fight scene in a good movie.
@DaRunningMan One thing I do find interesting is you can see emotion in a choreographed fight scene, you can see people get angry and start to lose form, which I think TPM is a good example of, you can see Obi Wan get angrier and start swinging away, charging in without observing his opponent which is why he gets pushed into the hole.
Saying that a fight is bad because it's choreographed is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
@DaRunningMan I'm a martial artist, I teach self-defense to bodyguards & SWAT, & I've worked in fight choreography. I agree with RLM here 100%. They are talking about the TENSION that was built in the storytelling in the OT, the focus was on story and not visuals back then. 8:10 sums it up. While the Obi vs. Maul fight was visually *crisp* for a few furious seconds, it demonstrates that more attention was paid to the fighting & NOT the story. And, AS a choreographer, I know that that is wrong.
@Gorshkin111 1st, don't make claims on the internet that you can't back up. For all we know, you're lying about your background. 2nd, even if you were a fight choreographer it doesn't make what you said is correct as there are bad choreographers out there. 3rd, I never said anything about it being okay having a bad story. I'm saying that RLM is wrong because good choreography isn't to blame for a bad story AND a good story doesn't make up for bad fighting.
@DaRunningMan You've missed the point entirely. He states clearly in the review that despite the duel in TPM's "flawless choreography" it ultimately isn't as exciting as the duel in ANH simply because the movie failed to build a connection with any of it's characters, therefore making it rather uninteresting.
@vicrockz89 I didn't miss any point. Listen to him at 6:25 as he says, "Back to highly choreographed fighting." He is blaming the choreography (calling it a nonsensical phrase "highly choreographed) as a negative and defends the bad action in A New Hope claiming if you didn't like it you didn't "get it". Wrong. The script was better in ANH but that duel was just bad. It having a better script doesn't make that badly made duel better. It's a bad duel in an otherwise good movie.
@DaRunningMan You claim the reviewer says "back to highly choreographed fighting " in a negative tone while in fact he is simply just calling the scene out for all it has going for it: flawless choreography. There was nothing going on beneath the fighting that made the audience care for what was happening.
@vicrockz89 He is saying it in a negative tone because he says things like, "Lightsaber duels have less to do with the fight itself and more to do with the internalization of the characters" in order to defend the bad lightsaber duel in A New Hope. The ignorance of RLM's comment is that it could be said about any action or fight scene not just lightsaber duels. However, like any scene in a movie, even if the story is good the action scenes themselves have to be well made.
@DaRunningMan In my mind, a fight need not have "flawless choreography". RLM's statement makes sense if you want to discover more about the character. In a real fight, you do not dance with your opponent tapping your weapons together for kicks, expending so much energy. Even samurai prefers one clean cut. The prequel fights do not even look dangerous, just... pretty.
@MrWongCx No RLM's statement does not make sense because of what I have been saying. Choreography isn't to blame for a bad story and a good story doesn't excuse bad action. Also, the APM duel looks nothing like a dance and actually looks much more like a real duel. In real life people don't fight slow and wait for the other person to attack like the bad on in A New Hope. Like APM, they attack constantly and there is much more strategy going on to beat the other opponent.
@DaRunningMan I guess so. of course that ANH fight scene could have been better. But what was critically important is that Obi-wan dies. When Qui-gon died, I thought: "oh... okay... too bad I guess." and I suspect some people cheered. Maybe because the light sabers was used too much on useless robots that when the Darth Maul started it only felt marginally more exciting. RLM's reference to the luke/Vader fights just made more sense to me. There is also the adage: "Less is more".
@MrWongCx If all that was important was for Obi-Wan to die and according to what your suggesting the duel does not matter then why have a duel at all? Like I have been saying a good story does not excuse bad action. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was all about story and characters and yet when it came to have action it made sure that the action is fantastic. Why can't we have movies were BOTH great action and great stories exist? Why does it have to be only one or the other?
@DaRunningMan That duel had to introduce the very first light saber fight and visually establish Vader as the dark counterpart of the Jedi for the first time. That scene among many symbolised Star Wars. And to your statement on having the best of both worlds, touché! We know film makers want everything for their films, but it doesn't mean that they can always get it due to varying circumstances. For Phantom Menace, Lucas had everything in the world, used them, and the result is this poor story.
@DaRunningMan All fights a bit serious I've seen are nothing like you describe, but that's a detail.
I guess in theory you're right, it could be nicely done from both the story telling and the choregraphy aspects. However when watching a story, and not a martial demonstration, at the very least the story aspect should be the starting point, don't you think ?
@Kyrielsh1 "All fights a bit serious I've seen are nothing like you describe, but that's a detail."
Then you haven't seen many movies. At least outside of Hollywood.
"However when watching a story, and not a martial demonstration"
You're still coming from the mindset that quality action and quality story are separate and should not mix. You are limiting the possibilities of cinema by being that narrow minded and excusing poor action film making simply if the script is good.
@MrWongCx Amen brother! It's like watching a dance with lightsabers because you know that no one is gonna die until that moment when someone does something special or it turns to slow motion. Not just talking about this fight, but many movie fights. Good point dude!
@DaRunningMan :Your point is redundant, since RLM's statement that the fight scenes in the prequels are pretty dance moves is valid. In ROTS, Anakin vs Obi, there's a part that they simply twirl their sabers around for 10 seconds without even trying to hit each other, simply creating a medley of impressive light and buzzing-noise effects. In ANH, Vader's sword is direct-to-the-point stabbing at Obi trying to kill him rather than making it pretty.Also, its hard to dance when you're a robot,or old
Other Famous Duels in Literature...If LUCAS Directed Them:
Hamlet vs. Laertes--"Forget the fact you're fighting for dead fathers and a woman you both loved as a girlfriend and sister, respectively...CHOREOGRAPHED DANCE!"
Beowulf vs. Grendel's Mother--"Forget the fact you're fighting for your fallen kinsmen and slain son, respectively...DANCE!"
King Arthur and Mordred--"Forget the fact you're fighting your illegitimate son who has split your Round Table and destroyed Camelot/paradise--DANCE!"
"Maybe there was never another need for them to run really fast? Oh... yeah... that would've been a good time." I love how well this rips The Phantom Menace apart.
Keeping guns in the arm rests of seats (probably not just the throne room). That's not paranoid. That's logical. Maybe the Naboo have their own equivalent of the NRA. We already know that the Gungans have basically the same thing (called a "militiagung"). And the Naboo have "security volunteers" which are basically a militia. They reveal that they can use guerrilla tactics, so it really shouldn't matter that they don't have a standing army (which is outlawed by the Republic unless it's droids).
brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. thankyou for putting into masterful satire what I've been feeling since that beautiful dream turned into this living nightmare. Sure it's funny and clever, but to the generations and tens of millions of true star wars fans, it's almost redeeming. It's like a doctor diagnosing a disease that's remained elusive for a decade.
The ending to this video made me sad. Like that was a different person entirely. Like that was actually George Lucas talking and whoever is making the movies now is his evil twin brother who killed George and has raped the series in to submission. To dream...
@ZackJ100 If you watch his Revenge of the Sith review, he compares the prequels to Citizen Kane and George Lucas to Charles Foster Kane. I'm not sure if you've ever seen Citizen Kane, but it's all about an idealist's fall from grace, and I think describes George Lucas to a tee. He became the very thing he rebelled against as a young director. Tragic, really.
How could anyone tolerate this nonsense? A little kid with zero combat experience joins a battle, gets through shields, attacks and survives? Surely at this point people were getting up and leaving the theater!
@michaelandjennyshow How to over-analyse a film to the point of draining any life that may exist in the film? How to jump on the band-wagon and start hating on some awesome movies? ... Phantom is the worst one, BUT it has it's awesome moments that out-weigh the bad ones, also it's a Star Wars movie... A film... Enjoy what it is, not what it isn't.
@RobinTaylorJenkins No, not that. It is what it is and I enjoyed it as a kid. But it never connected to me emotionally. Since I've decided to pursue a career in film, Plinkett has helped me understand why a lot of things didn't work out the way Lucas intended. Yeah, Plinkett's picked this movie apart but Star Wars aside, he makes a lot of legitimate points about movies and stories in general. I don't blindly agree with everything. It's educational.
Brilliant review. Favorite quote ""Lightsaber duels have less to do with the fight itself but moreso with the internalization of the characters." So true.
Also, great job on taking Lucas to task on the role of visual effects as it relates to story. The once film industry rebel has indeed become the film industry emperor.
@nebby6 Yeah, that's a very insightful way of explaining why so many action sequences feel quite hollow. Action only works if it's emotionally charged and means something. Pretty much why in all the prequels there is only one fight scene that means anything. The one where Anakin versus Obi-Wan Kenobi. With that scene, we knew what would happen so it wasn't very dramatic anyway.
Once again, I totally agree with the premise and most of the points in this review, but saying that choreography doesn't matter for the duels is retarded. The prequels were shit and the original movies were great, but even so, you have to be able to find faults in them, or you're relegated yourself to cheerleader instead of intelligent observer.
The duels in the prequels showcased skill, but it was as if the characters didn't care about the outcome. In the original three movies there are a lot of powerful emotions, but when it comes to technique Obi Wan doesn't look like a Jedi Master, Vader doesn't look like a Sith Lord, and Luke doesn't look like an inexperienced yet adept young Jedi, they look like they aren't really trying to hit each other.
I agree with everything except for the points about the lightsaber duels, they need emotion AND good choreography, because we need to believe that they are emotionally invested in the outcome but are also trained in the fighting style. The prequels lacked the former, the original 3 lacked the latter. The original movies stand head and shoulders above the prequels but you're making them out to be infallible.
@EdandRummy I agree with you 100%. Glad to see I'm not alone. RLM's comments about duels are totally off. His defense of HORRIBLE fight choreography is claiming that they had emotion as if a fight with great choreography can't have that. Lucas is to blame for a bad story but that doesn't take away from the great fight choreography. According to RLM fighting is only good if the fight choreography is bad. This what happens when you grow up with only Hollywood movies.
@sanjurosama How is the duel between Obi Wan and Darth Vadar horrible in the first Star Wars movie? Has nothing to do with "not enough flipping" considering they never flipped at all there. It has to do with non existent fighting, complete lack of fencing skill on the part of the performers and cinematic staging so terrible it looks like a grade school play.
@mattoman2010 I haven't missed any point. You've missed mine. And the fact that you are using "Plinkett" (a made up character) to do the thinking for you says a lot about you.
@DaRunningMan Thats another reason why these reviews are brillant....a made up character can explain how bad these movies are. And with great writing we love every minute of it.
@jland3622 Hardly. Many people are letting this made up character do the thinking for them so much so that even things where RLM is wrong about (like this section on lightsaber duels) they mistake as being "correct". RLM is wrong on this issue.
I also don't know about this having "great writing" considering the racist jokes that RLM can't help but put in.
@DaRunningMan "RLM is wrong about (like this section on lightsaber duels)"
This has to be the dumbest thing ive ever read from a reply from anyone on you tube. Look we get it...your a Lucas disciple. You love all things Lucas and he can do no wrong in your eyes. But this doesn't mean the prequels were good. Light Saber battles aside there is so much wrong with these movies. They have no sense of logic and were poorly written. Plinketts review was in fact very well written BTW.
@DaRunningMan How is better choreography a more enriched experience? Aside from just looking pretty on screen. Look at older style videogames like Xenogears where the story outweighed the 98' ps1 graphics. And also did you know lucas wanted to make the sabre fights in the originals more real? This is not done by having two actors rehearse for weeks just for 1 or 2 scenes. As plinkett would say you think your ideas are better jus' cause they are and not so much in how they are.
@Jaegar19Ultima "you think your ideas are better jus' cause they are and not so much in how they are."
That doesn't make any sense. In any case, asking me "how is better choreography a more enriched experience" is like asking "how is better dialogue a more enriched experience?" Better dialogue makes the conversations better and better choreography makes a fight/action scene better. I'm not defending the crappy story in TPM, but RLM is just wrong when it comes to the action.
Maybe George Lucas has simply gotten lazy due to all the money we've given him. Why should he have to work hard to make cool new things when we keep giving him more money to do this.(Even though in my opinion, Clone Wars and Revenge weren't that bad) I'm not saying it's our fault, but we could help. But we wont, because we're all going to see the 3D re-release.
you know people who actually know how to fight will use their skill even in anger, obi-wan trained most of his life and kept his skill, luke trained for a short time and lost his shit.
@jikatabiarecool An excuse for a bad effect doesn't make it any more acceptable. In Bioshock 2, they made the main character very fragile because he was an outdated model for a super soldier. However, the players did not like it because it made the game too frustrating. Obi-wan has training, sure. But it seemed as if he was apathetic to Qui Gon's death. It did nothing for the montonous structure of the entire movie.
at least i,v seen more of naboo then aldaraan.but i thay the time on couresant seemed short to me my be becaus i just baid atention to the part that ment any thing but to make the trip to couresant mater the jedie&some reguler secrety do get ther testemony thay send more jedia on a chip big enof to get past the now more developt blockaid or then a small steth ship with a cloacing devive aniken is left on couresant but r2 gets to go&the pilot gets killed r2 is ok and aniken put atrasmiter in him
the destoction of the mother ship only stops them from calling more droid on the gungens when the visero are captured there orderd to call off the droid on the gungens.the number1reason quigon in this story obi just pownds him&cuts throught his duble lightsaber&him in hafe
6:00 to the end is one of the most important and substantial points that redlettermedia has ever made. It strikes the very core at what is right about the Star Wars originals and wrong with the new trilogy; not trivial things like Jar Jar, "older is always better", or the visuals, but the heart of the story and the characters therein. In its ultimate simplicity, the originals have a heart to their stories. Their successors... well, they don't. Like or dislike any of the six of them from there.
What the hell is the point of those rayshields at 5:10? I understand it's a plot device to separate Obi-Wan from Jinn and Darth Maul, but there has to be a real life application.
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9:40 Tell that to atheists.
12Ominous 4 hours ago
9:39
damn...that actually makes me sad
boredom974 4 days ago
To me, this film's biggest failing (apart from all the things RLM has said) was a lack of a credible antagonist.
I've always felt that a good villain needs to have some connection to the hero, so their conflict at the end has some weight, like Luke and Vader.
Darth Maul had no connection whatsoever to Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, so their duel at the end had do emotion behind it, no drama.
He was just an obstacle that kept them from everyone else. That's no villain, that's a brick wall.
TheJboy88 5 days ago
@TheJboy88 i said something similar on RLM a year ago. It's a problem with all the prequels - no good antagonist(s). Maul is a mystery, Dooku is barely seen and fought only twice, Grievous is a complete unknown, and no one knew Palpatine was a Sith until ROTS was almost over and by that time it was too late.
RoninDave 2 days ago
3:50 LOL
noeproductions 6 days ago
4:45 my theory why the jedi would be so experienced in sword fighting even though the sith are extinct is that the Jedi are kind of like a Martial art and just like how Martial artist train with weapons like swords even though using swords in this day and age is kind of useless because we have guns but since sword fighting is like a tradition I expect it is the same with the Jedi they continue to train in sword fighting because it's part of their tradition.
darksidevader2000 1 week ago
i think the location and hill for the ep3 fight was the right setting if u wanted to see how Anakin ended up having to wear the Vader suit, but i guess the fight could've been just a mere 10 min
croc560 1 week ago
an explanation for why they know how to sword fight despite the Sith being extinct is easy. Dark Jedi! A Sith isnt a mere dark jedi, they follow an ancient ideal of a superior being, an all mighty force user. Jedi can still be evil and not be considered sith, like those who are just simple assholes, choosing not to follow an ancient ideal. And i bet the jedi practice sword fighting with each other.
croc560 1 week ago
Geez Bob get the right soundtrack!
croc560 1 week ago
YOU'RE A GOD. and here you sound like you have down syndrome.
luv4drums1 1 week ago
So we're back to the three guys we know nothing about fighting each other in a scene we have no interest in.
Encom7 1 week ago
As hilarious and actuate as this review is, the reason obi won didn't run fast during the fight is explained in the video "What if Obi Won had used force Speed"
GreenTeaFilms207 1 week ago
@GreenTeaFilms207 He could always just stop BEFORE he falls into the pit...
TheSillyJimmy 1 week ago
5:11 The Force Speed was on a cooldown Timer. XP (TOR reference. XD)
NodDisciple1 1 week ago
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MrWongCx 1 week ago
"Aw look he accidentally turned on the space ship. How cute...I hope he fucking dies!" XD
SuckMyCOG 2 weeks ago
stick instinct droids vs clumsy rabbit creatures
rofl
elcap22 2 weeks ago
you said it brother.. wait?!?! you said that??
angy6x6 2 weeks ago 51
Oh Christ, you brought the kid here to?
LoD100 2 weeks ago
You know, I can still enjoy the prequels as a part of a larger narrative, rather than just individual films.
dswynne 2 weeks ago
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Wow I forgot that Darth Maul was in this film, yet they put his fall ALL OVER TPM 3D posters, even though he only gets like 5 lines of dialogue and we really know absolutely nothing about him outside of TPM. The ending should've been that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon find Darth Sidious in a room, however, out of nowhere Maul arrives and keeps them away from Sidious whilst he escapes. Sidious should've really made a physical appearance in this film and not just as a hologram the whole way through.
arsenalrulez1000 2 weeks ago
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arsenalrulez1000 2 weeks ago
"What does it power, the universe?" xD
potterluvver 2 weeks ago
Peaceful people that hide laser guns in the armrests of their chair in the throne room? LOL Qui Gon dies and Obi Wan gets mad. Hey, maybe now this will start to get good. LOL! A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing. Wait! Did YOU say that?
treasurehunter911 2 weeks ago
They then go from the palace to THIS room. What is this room? Is this in the palace? I know George wanted the Jedi to fight in a cool place that's all Star Warsy, so what, this is like a power generator? What does it power the universe? So you're expecting me to believe that the npeople who built this technological wonder were dying without space supplies for 2 days? They run fast to get out of dangerous situations. But never again...uh, yeah. That would've been a good time. LOL
treasurehunter911 2 weeks ago
We will work to find out more about your attacker. Go back with the Queen to Naboo and find out more about this dark lord. Uh...wait. I thought that you were going to...uh, never mind. LOVE the cartoon music at 1 minute into this video. LOL We can't use our powers to help the queen. You did it before asshole! ROFLMAO! So the kid hides in the cockpit of a fighter. Gee, I wonder what's going to happen next? LOL Wait! Why is a their a child-sized helmet and goggles in the cockpit? ROTFLMAO!
treasurehunter911 2 weeks ago
Don't go see the 3D re-release. It's only 15 percent 3D and the added effects make this failure of a movie even harder to forget.
xXTitoman66Xx 3 weeks ago 2
That quote from young George at the end makes me feel sorry for him. He ,one way or another, completely lost his artistic integrity over the years. I was 8 when phantom menace came out and even then I preferred the original movies to it.
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GreatScottPilgrimage 3 weeks ago
These videos are more entertaining than the actual films
8Gerrard8Liverpool 3 weeks ago
Wait, wait... GEORGE LUCAS said "A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." So he made 3 abominations of movies to emphasize that fact, it all makes sense!
PEZhead5432109876 3 weeks ago
Lucas basically has a license to print money... He just doesn't give a shit anymore.
DeArmadas 3 weeks ago
He is accidentally flying the spaceship how cute i hope he fucking dies.
darthjarp666 3 weeks ago
You sir, are awesome
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9:40. Brutal.
thezaxxon1982 3 weeks ago
imagine if plinkett went to a tpm 3D showing and began shouting out his criticisms, better yet, what if he hackes the projector and the screen displays this entire video instead of tpm
starwars34 3 weeks ago
Wow he has really good points about every small thing in the movie
TheKillerNose 3 weeks ago
George Lucas should be forced to watch this review with his eyelids taped open, a la 'A Clockwork Orange'
Jonnystrangetimes 3 weeks ago
"Maybe there never was a need to run fast again..."
I loved this movie when I was eight. Now I understand that it was because I was eight.
joshwhalen17 3 weeks ago 37
What's it power? The universe? Fucking classic. Never noticed til but how is this room 100 times larger than the outside of the building?
PaddyCollector 3 weeks ago
How cute! I hope he fucking dies LMAO
theempire00 3 weeks ago
"Please God make it stop make it end"
MrJedabak 3 weeks ago
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
RevolutionaryLoser 3 weeks ago
''What does it power? The universe?''
GatesOfGehenna76 3 weeks ago
What happneed to you george, you used to be so smart
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stroudwes1 3 weeks ago 12
Wow, this guy has shown me that there is NOTHING good about the prequels. Before this, I tried to see the good side in them, now I see there is none.
antisocialg24a 3 weeks ago
I'm sad that this review is almost over. :c
Hakudohshi 3 weeks ago
what the hell is that awesome song he throws in there at 0:55?
BlackScotland88 3 weeks ago
I was 19 when this garbage hit the teathers. Im still not over it. I love how this dude tears this shit apart!
Libressman 3 weeks ago
You sound like the guy from Wacky Game Jokes For Kids.
misterkevinoh 3 weeks ago
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EatonBeeverUG 3 weeks ago
Also the light-saber duel was that was it the 6th movie because you know choreography back then was not was it was when they made the new movies...
avidwriter 3 weeks ago
@avidwriter Wrong. Hollywood had already a great history of fighting choreography when A New Hope was released. And the duel between Ben and Vader was still horrible.
MrJedabak 3 weeks ago
@MrJedabak And you got your wish with flying elderly men in episodes 2 and 3 jesus you must hate realism and art you just see things as they are and lo and behold you'd feel the same way if it was the other way around. I felt that the prequel fights were pretty, too pretty because there was no past history and nothing at stake to care. You can't really say that oh obiwan cared when quigon died, sure but then he goes to doing more of that great choreography you seem to value soo much in film.
Jaegar19Ultima 3 weeks ago
@Jaegar19Ultima Go see any other movie with good sword fighting choreography, let's see if you still think that way.
MrJedabak 3 weeks ago
@MrJedabak I have actually and I still feel the same way I do because I still prefer depth/story in fights like the original star wars trilogy over, unrealistic perfectly timed fights with nothing other than to look cool like in the prequels. That is just my opinion.
Jaegar19Ultima 3 weeks ago
@Jaegar19Ultima RLM is wrong here. The people who made this review have no knowledge of anything except Hollywood films where action are not that great. RLM confuses boring and uninteresting choreography as "correct" and when action choreography is created that is exciting and interesting these goofballs have a problem because they need something else to bitch about. The fact he thought the duel in the first SW was great shows he does not know what he's talking about.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan No one is denying that awesome fight choreography is awesome. But did you even watch this portion of the review? Like, at all? RLM never said "boring" choreography was correct. He was making a point that, while the Episode I choreography is very good, it's hard to be invested in it when you don't really care about the characters and there is nothing at stake. Every scene in a movie should move the story forward...else it becomes boring and pointless...get it? Or are you trolling?
VforVideo 2 weeks ago
@VforVideo Of course I saw this portion of the review. Did you? RLM is literally complaining about the choreography. He even uses a totally nonsensical phrase to insult it calling it "highly choreographed". He understands nothing about combat and fight choreography. He actually defended the horrible light saber duel of the 1st Star Wars claiming that anyone that didn't like it didn't get it. Just cause the 1st SW movie was better than TPM doesn't mean everything in it was perfect.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan Well, it's RLM, myself, and (apparently) the rest of the internet vs you. Again, I don't think he is insulting the choreography. He is only pointing out how absurd it is because the perfection in the fight scenes sterilize everything. It's like Lucas ONLY cared about cool choreography instead of giving us a story. If that's your thing, fine...but the rest of us want a real story with real characters...that's all bro.
VforVideo 2 weeks ago
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@VforVideo "Well, it's RLM, myself, and (apparently) the rest of the internet vs you"
That's not only a childish mentality, it's also a logic fallacy. "Argumentum ad populum". Look it up and know what it means because it's incorrect reasoning that you are using.
Also, RLM in the video is insulting the fight by calling it "highly choreographed" which is nonsensical because ALL movie fights are choreographed. His comparison with ROJ is also bad because it was a different situation.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan And the "horrible light saber duel" in a new hope IS actually more interesting because it serves something called a STORY. It's not just a fight scene for the sake of a fight scene. Yes, the fighting itself is poor and slow...but that's why RLM says it's IRONIC (look it up) that the slow, clumsy, fight is actually MORE INTERESTING than the fights in the prequels. It's more interesting because those fights serve the story, they aren't just fights for the sake of fights. Get it yet?
VforVideo 2 weeks ago 2
@VforVideo No, the duel in New Hope is bad. RLM doesn't argue irony. He literally says that if you didn't like the New Hope duel you "didn't get it". No, I did get it. It was just a poorly realized scene. Again, just because the story and overall movie is better doesn't mean every single aspect of it is better. A better script doesn't make a bad swordfight good. In fact, it only frustrates because one wishes that the good story had a great duel to back it up.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
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I agree. Most of what this guys says is accurate and I do enjoy his sense of humor but it is absurd to say that choreography does not matter. Both the Phantom Menace and A New Hope have terrible fight scenes, but the reason for their relative worthlessness is different. Phantom Menace's failure to develop its characters and having a duel that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie is why the fight is forgettable...
powereddrive 2 weeks ago
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The reason the duel in A New Hope stinks is because of the poor choreography, the boring camerawork, and I will say it: The Complete Lack of Emotion
powereddrive 2 weeks ago
@powereddrive Good to see another person with a sensible view on this. :-) Just because A New Hope has a better script doesn't make the light saber duel in it good. It's horrible. It frustrates me because I'd like to see great duels with a great script. So just because the script is good it means you don't need to make the duels good when duels occur in them? That's nonsensical. Just because A New Hope is a better movie than TPM doesn't mean it's a perfect movie. RLM is wrong here.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan im having a little trouble trying to understand what you said there: you said you prefer movies with good scripts and not so great sword-fight scenes, or you prefer movies with terrible and stupid scripts but nice choreographed sword-fights?
Akron162 2 weeks ago
@Akron162 I'm not talking about either of those things. I'm saying that RLM is wrong on this whole point. There was nothing wrong with the fight choreography in TPM. Not liking the story and not caring for the characters is not the fault of the fight choreography. And just because the script was better in A New Hope does not make that duel good.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan i think the point was that they could have put some emotion in the fight scenes and not just turn it in some modern dance act. i think what he said is that the fights in the original ones were better becouse they make you emotionally involved, and in the new ones, even if they look pretty, are not different from dancing with the stars.
Akron162 2 weeks ago
@Akron162 And he's wrong. They don't look like dancing but like they are extremely good at fencing going at it. RLM has no knowledge of action cinema or even combat. It's obvious that they don't watch movies outside of Hollywood because Hong Kong action for example has very intense and intricate choreography while usually Hollywood's are usually lackluster. Since RLM is used to lame action they think that is correct when it isn't. And a choreographer isn't at fault for a bad script.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan well, i get it, you dont give a shit about how bad is a movie as long it has some nice sword-waving choreographs.
Akron162 2 weeks ago
@Akron162 Oh, now I understand. You suffer from poor reading comprehension. Gotcha!
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan Actually, the point of the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader was to set Luke Skywalker firmly on the road to become a Jedi. In fact, you can contrast the way the old Jedi Order dealt with the Sith versus how Luke ultimately defeated them. In the former, the Jedi fought the Emperor and Vader and lost, while Luke chose the path of peace to defeat the Emperor and win back his Vader. Thus, fighting didn't solve anything; grace did.
dswynne 2 weeks ago
@dswynne Don't know where you are getting this idea of Luke choosing peace and grace. Peace and grace had nothing to do with it. A entire wars were fought in the original trilogy. Both Death Stars are attacked and blown up. The Emperor gets killed and the Sith are also killed off.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan U misunderstand.In this context, 'grace' simply means "self-realization", when Luke realized that he was becoming his father after defeating him, and 'peace' is the path Luke took when he threw away his lightsaber, after refusing to kill him.Luke knew that had he got his earned revenge, he couldn't be the Jedi that his father was suppose to be.Remember, Ani was about forcing others to see things his way, while Luke didn't, proving that the Sith's ways were wrong.
dswynne 2 weeks ago 3
@dswynne You're arguing about things that have nothing to do with my point. I'm not arguing what themes were at play during certain scenes in Star Wars. What I am arguing is that there was nothing wrong with the lightsaber duel scene in TPM in terms of fight choreography. RLM is wrong. The lightsaber duel in A New Hope was bad in all areas. Just because the script is better in that movie doesn't make the badly done lightsaber duel in it better.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan I understand that. I was simply explaining the reason for why RLM felt that the fight choreography in TPM was lacking when compared to the fight choreography in RotJ. Personally, I didn't think that any of the fight scenes in the SW franchise were bad or good, but rather served the purpose of bridging the scenes, which is why I disagree with RLM's characterization of the fight between Yoda and Count Dooku, and was used to demonstrate why Yoda was a venerable Jedi.
dswynne 2 weeks ago
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@dswynne "I was simply explaining the reason for why RLM felt that the fight choreography in TPM was lacking when compared to the fight choreography in RotJ. "
And that's why RLM is wrong. They don't understand that it has nothing to do with the realization of the scene. You can have a great story but if the time comes for a fight scene and it's bad then it's bad. It doesn't because "good" because the story around it is good. It's a badly done fight scene in a good movie.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan One thing I do find interesting is you can see emotion in a choreographed fight scene, you can see people get angry and start to lose form, which I think TPM is a good example of, you can see Obi Wan get angrier and start swinging away, charging in without observing his opponent which is why he gets pushed into the hole.
Saying that a fight is bad because it's choreographed is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
lich109 2 weeks ago
@lich109 Exactly! Good to see someone else understand the issue here as well!
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan I'm a martial artist, I teach self-defense to bodyguards & SWAT, & I've worked in fight choreography. I agree with RLM here 100%. They are talking about the TENSION that was built in the storytelling in the OT, the focus was on story and not visuals back then. 8:10 sums it up. While the Obi vs. Maul fight was visually *crisp* for a few furious seconds, it demonstrates that more attention was paid to the fighting & NOT the story. And, AS a choreographer, I know that that is wrong.
Gorshkin111 2 weeks ago 3
@Gorshkin111 1st, don't make claims on the internet that you can't back up. For all we know, you're lying about your background. 2nd, even if you were a fight choreographer it doesn't make what you said is correct as there are bad choreographers out there. 3rd, I never said anything about it being okay having a bad story. I'm saying that RLM is wrong because good choreography isn't to blame for a bad story AND a good story doesn't make up for bad fighting.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan You've missed the point entirely. He states clearly in the review that despite the duel in TPM's "flawless choreography" it ultimately isn't as exciting as the duel in ANH simply because the movie failed to build a connection with any of it's characters, therefore making it rather uninteresting.
vicrockz89 2 weeks ago 25
@vicrockz89 I didn't miss any point. Listen to him at 6:25 as he says, "Back to highly choreographed fighting." He is blaming the choreography (calling it a nonsensical phrase "highly choreographed) as a negative and defends the bad action in A New Hope claiming if you didn't like it you didn't "get it". Wrong. The script was better in ANH but that duel was just bad. It having a better script doesn't make that badly made duel better. It's a bad duel in an otherwise good movie.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan You claim the reviewer says "back to highly choreographed fighting " in a negative tone while in fact he is simply just calling the scene out for all it has going for it: flawless choreography. There was nothing going on beneath the fighting that made the audience care for what was happening.
vicrockz89 2 weeks ago
@vicrockz89 He is saying it in a negative tone because he says things like, "Lightsaber duels have less to do with the fight itself and more to do with the internalization of the characters" in order to defend the bad lightsaber duel in A New Hope. The ignorance of RLM's comment is that it could be said about any action or fight scene not just lightsaber duels. However, like any scene in a movie, even if the story is good the action scenes themselves have to be well made.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan In my mind, a fight need not have "flawless choreography". RLM's statement makes sense if you want to discover more about the character. In a real fight, you do not dance with your opponent tapping your weapons together for kicks, expending so much energy. Even samurai prefers one clean cut. The prequel fights do not even look dangerous, just... pretty.
MrWongCx 1 week ago
@MrWongCx No RLM's statement does not make sense because of what I have been saying. Choreography isn't to blame for a bad story and a good story doesn't excuse bad action. Also, the APM duel looks nothing like a dance and actually looks much more like a real duel. In real life people don't fight slow and wait for the other person to attack like the bad on in A New Hope. Like APM, they attack constantly and there is much more strategy going on to beat the other opponent.
DaRunningMan 1 week ago
@DaRunningMan I guess so. of course that ANH fight scene could have been better. But what was critically important is that Obi-wan dies. When Qui-gon died, I thought: "oh... okay... too bad I guess." and I suspect some people cheered. Maybe because the light sabers was used too much on useless robots that when the Darth Maul started it only felt marginally more exciting. RLM's reference to the luke/Vader fights just made more sense to me. There is also the adage: "Less is more".
MrWongCx 1 week ago
@MrWongCx If all that was important was for Obi-Wan to die and according to what your suggesting the duel does not matter then why have a duel at all? Like I have been saying a good story does not excuse bad action. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was all about story and characters and yet when it came to have action it made sure that the action is fantastic. Why can't we have movies were BOTH great action and great stories exist? Why does it have to be only one or the other?
DaRunningMan 1 week ago
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@DaRunningMan That duel had to introduce the very first light saber fight and visually establish Vader as the dark counterpart of the Jedi for the first time. That scene among many symbolised Star Wars. And to your statement on having the best of both worlds, touché! We know film makers want everything for their films, but it doesn't mean that they can always get it due to varying circumstances. For Phantom Menace, Lucas had everything in the world, used them, and the result is this poor story.
MrWongCx 1 week ago
@DaRunningMan All fights a bit serious I've seen are nothing like you describe, but that's a detail.
I guess in theory you're right, it could be nicely done from both the story telling and the choregraphy aspects. However when watching a story, and not a martial demonstration, at the very least the story aspect should be the starting point, don't you think ?
Kyrielsh1 6 days ago
@Kyrielsh1 "All fights a bit serious I've seen are nothing like you describe, but that's a detail."
Then you haven't seen many movies. At least outside of Hollywood.
"However when watching a story, and not a martial demonstration"
You're still coming from the mindset that quality action and quality story are separate and should not mix. You are limiting the possibilities of cinema by being that narrow minded and excusing poor action film making simply if the script is good.
DaRunningMan 6 days ago
@MrWongCx Amen brother! It's like watching a dance with lightsabers because you know that no one is gonna die until that moment when someone does something special or it turns to slow motion. Not just talking about this fight, but many movie fights. Good point dude!
hankheavy 1 week ago
@DaRunningMan :Your point is redundant, since RLM's statement that the fight scenes in the prequels are pretty dance moves is valid. In ROTS, Anakin vs Obi, there's a part that they simply twirl their sabers around for 10 seconds without even trying to hit each other, simply creating a medley of impressive light and buzzing-noise effects. In ANH, Vader's sword is direct-to-the-point stabbing at Obi trying to kill him rather than making it pretty.Also, its hard to dance when you're a robot,or old
kalelio13 42 minutes ago
@vicrockz89 Funny that I made an incomplete stop motion of the ANH duel
NonstopRam 1 week ago
Other Famous Duels in Literature...If LUCAS Directed Them:
Hamlet vs. Laertes--"Forget the fact you're fighting for dead fathers and a woman you both loved as a girlfriend and sister, respectively...CHOREOGRAPHED DANCE!"
Beowulf vs. Grendel's Mother--"Forget the fact you're fighting for your fallen kinsmen and slain son, respectively...DANCE!"
King Arthur and Mordred--"Forget the fact you're fighting your illegitimate son who has split your Round Table and destroyed Camelot/paradise--DANCE!"
obiwanobiwan13 3 weeks ago
"Maybe there was never another need for them to run really fast? Oh... yeah... that would've been a good time." I love how well this rips The Phantom Menace apart.
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Keeping guns in the arm rests of seats (probably not just the throne room). That's not paranoid. That's logical. Maybe the Naboo have their own equivalent of the NRA. We already know that the Gungans have basically the same thing (called a "militiagung"). And the Naboo have "security volunteers" which are basically a militia. They reveal that they can use guerrilla tactics, so it really shouldn't matter that they don't have a standing army (which is outlawed by the Republic unless it's droids).
IggyHazard 3 weeks ago
i just wonder when we'll discover a cure. or is that what alcohol and pot are for?
zapproowsdower 4 weeks ago
brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. thankyou for putting into masterful satire what I've been feeling since that beautiful dream turned into this living nightmare. Sure it's funny and clever, but to the generations and tens of millions of true star wars fans, it's almost redeeming. It's like a doctor diagnosing a disease that's remained elusive for a decade.
zapproowsdower 4 weeks ago 2
this is not funny this is only sad ,, how an epic can com to this ...
abdalaez 4 weeks ago
The ending to this video made me sad. Like that was a different person entirely. Like that was actually George Lucas talking and whoever is making the movies now is his evil twin brother who killed George and has raped the series in to submission. To dream...
ZackJ100 4 weeks ago
@ZackJ100 If you watch his Revenge of the Sith review, he compares the prequels to Citizen Kane and George Lucas to Charles Foster Kane. I'm not sure if you've ever seen Citizen Kane, but it's all about an idealist's fall from grace, and I think describes George Lucas to a tee. He became the very thing he rebelled against as a young director. Tragic, really.
NekoSOM 4 weeks ago
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How could anyone tolerate this nonsense? A little kid with zero combat experience joins a battle, gets through shields, attacks and survives? Surely at this point people were getting up and leaving the theater!
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I always hated the overly fancy Jedi sword style.
I liked Duku's style because he was a fencer... and he was just trying to kill them. XD
WildArmACF 1 month ago
I have learned so much from this man.
michaelandjennyshow 1 month ago 61
@michaelandjennyshow How to over-analyse a film to the point of draining any life that may exist in the film? How to jump on the band-wagon and start hating on some awesome movies? ... Phantom is the worst one, BUT it has it's awesome moments that out-weigh the bad ones, also it's a Star Wars movie... A film... Enjoy what it is, not what it isn't.
RobinTaylorJenkins 4 weeks ago
@RobinTaylorJenkins No, not that. It is what it is and I enjoyed it as a kid. But it never connected to me emotionally. Since I've decided to pursue a career in film, Plinkett has helped me understand why a lot of things didn't work out the way Lucas intended. Yeah, Plinkett's picked this movie apart but Star Wars aside, he makes a lot of legitimate points about movies and stories in general. I don't blindly agree with everything. It's educational.
michaelandjennyshow 4 weeks ago
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I learned about what type of 'Raid' bug spray kills a hooker trapped in your crawl space. Came in very handy!
*Weird looks*
That was the lesson here right?
June28July 2 weeks ago
Brilliant review. Favorite quote ""Lightsaber duels have less to do with the fight itself but moreso with the internalization of the characters." So true.
Also, great job on taking Lucas to task on the role of visual effects as it relates to story. The once film industry rebel has indeed become the film industry emperor.
nebby6 1 month ago 43
@nebby6 Yeah, that's a very insightful way of explaining why so many action sequences feel quite hollow. Action only works if it's emotionally charged and means something. Pretty much why in all the prequels there is only one fight scene that means anything. The one where Anakin versus Obi-Wan Kenobi. With that scene, we knew what would happen so it wasn't very dramatic anyway.
georginiou 3 weeks ago
@nebby6 George has become the very thing he swore to destroy
bBpro10 2 weeks ago
why are all the related videos about boobs?
VenomsRage815 1 month ago
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They're probably Plinkett's favorites.
loner1878 1 month ago
Is that Steven Speilberg Lucas is talking too in the part where he's like "Gungas"?
skip8619 1 month ago
@skip8619 yes that's Steven Spielberg.
michaelandjennyshow 1 month ago
I loved that fight scene though :O
54jomamma 1 month ago
you've
EdandRummy 1 month ago
Once again, I totally agree with the premise and most of the points in this review, but saying that choreography doesn't matter for the duels is retarded. The prequels were shit and the original movies were great, but even so, you have to be able to find faults in them, or you're relegated yourself to cheerleader instead of intelligent observer.
EdandRummy 1 month ago
@EdandRummy Back in 1977 they lacked the money/ability to really work on choreography. Don;t think that counts as a fault as such.
madouc575 1 month ago
The duels in the prequels showcased skill, but it was as if the characters didn't care about the outcome. In the original three movies there are a lot of powerful emotions, but when it comes to technique Obi Wan doesn't look like a Jedi Master, Vader doesn't look like a Sith Lord, and Luke doesn't look like an inexperienced yet adept young Jedi, they look like they aren't really trying to hit each other.
EdandRummy 1 month ago
I agree with everything except for the points about the lightsaber duels, they need emotion AND good choreography, because we need to believe that they are emotionally invested in the outcome but are also trained in the fighting style. The prequels lacked the former, the original 3 lacked the latter. The original movies stand head and shoulders above the prequels but you're making them out to be infallible.
EdandRummy 1 month ago
@EdandRummy I agree with you 100%. Glad to see I'm not alone. RLM's comments about duels are totally off. His defense of HORRIBLE fight choreography is claiming that they had emotion as if a fight with great choreography can't have that. Lucas is to blame for a bad story but that doesn't take away from the great fight choreography. According to RLM fighting is only good if the fight choreography is bad. This what happens when you grow up with only Hollywood movies.
DaRunningMan 3 weeks ago
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How is it horrible? Not enough flipping?
sanjurosama 3 weeks ago
@sanjurosama How is the duel between Obi Wan and Darth Vadar horrible in the first Star Wars movie? Has nothing to do with "not enough flipping" considering they never flipped at all there. It has to do with non existent fighting, complete lack of fencing skill on the part of the performers and cinematic staging so terrible it looks like a grade school play.
DaRunningMan 3 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan Like Plinkett said.. then I'm afraid you've missed the point entirely....
mattoman2010 3 weeks ago
@mattoman2010 I haven't missed any point. You've missed mine. And the fact that you are using "Plinkett" (a made up character) to do the thinking for you says a lot about you.
DaRunningMan 3 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan Thats another reason why these reviews are brillant....a made up character can explain how bad these movies are. And with great writing we love every minute of it.
jland3622 2 weeks ago
@jland3622 Hardly. Many people are letting this made up character do the thinking for them so much so that even things where RLM is wrong about (like this section on lightsaber duels) they mistake as being "correct". RLM is wrong on this issue.
I also don't know about this having "great writing" considering the racist jokes that RLM can't help but put in.
DaRunningMan 2 weeks ago
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@DaRunningMan "RLM is wrong about (like this section on lightsaber duels)"
This has to be the dumbest thing ive ever read from a reply from anyone on you tube. Look we get it...your a Lucas disciple. You love all things Lucas and he can do no wrong in your eyes. But this doesn't mean the prequels were good. Light Saber battles aside there is so much wrong with these movies. They have no sense of logic and were poorly written. Plinketts review was in fact very well written BTW.
jland3622 2 weeks ago
@DaRunningMan How is better choreography a more enriched experience? Aside from just looking pretty on screen. Look at older style videogames like Xenogears where the story outweighed the 98' ps1 graphics. And also did you know lucas wanted to make the sabre fights in the originals more real? This is not done by having two actors rehearse for weeks just for 1 or 2 scenes. As plinkett would say you think your ideas are better jus' cause they are and not so much in how they are.
Jaegar19Ultima 3 weeks ago
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@Jaegar19Ultima "you think your ideas are better jus' cause they are and not so much in how they are."
That doesn't make any sense. In any case, asking me "how is better choreography a more enriched experience" is like asking "how is better dialogue a more enriched experience?" Better dialogue makes the conversations better and better choreography makes a fight/action scene better. I'm not defending the crappy story in TPM, but RLM is just wrong when it comes to the action.
DaRunningMan 3 weeks ago
three times a lady... no, not that one! The other one!... dintintintintintin...
Galentw 1 month ago
Maybe George Lucas has simply gotten lazy due to all the money we've given him. Why should he have to work hard to make cool new things when we keep giving him more money to do this.(Even though in my opinion, Clone Wars and Revenge weren't that bad) I'm not saying it's our fault, but we could help. But we wont, because we're all going to see the 3D re-release.
Lemonman1313 1 month ago
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The people who worked on the originals and helped make them great along with George weren't there either
SolidMike84 1 month ago
@Lemonman1313 He's fallen to the dark side.
WatermelonRat 1 month ago
you know people who actually know how to fight will use their skill even in anger, obi-wan trained most of his life and kept his skill, luke trained for a short time and lost his shit.
jikatabiarecool 1 month ago
@jikatabiarecool An excuse for a bad effect doesn't make it any more acceptable. In Bioshock 2, they made the main character very fragile because he was an outdated model for a super soldier. However, the players did not like it because it made the game too frustrating. Obi-wan has training, sure. But it seemed as if he was apathetic to Qui Gon's death. It did nothing for the montonous structure of the entire movie.
MunkyDrag0n 1 month ago
Lucas just got lost in his own shit XD
SoraQuasar 1 month ago
"What does it power?! The UNIVERSE?!" hahaha, i just couldnt stop laughing from that point on, this shit is GOLDEN!!! XD
RadicalMassacre 1 month ago 2
fuck thos haters! i enjoyed the duel on a new hope!
The6espada 1 month ago
at least i,v seen more of naboo then aldaraan.but i thay the time on couresant seemed short to me my be becaus i just baid atention to the part that ment any thing but to make the trip to couresant mater the jedie&some reguler secrety do get ther testemony thay send more jedia on a chip big enof to get past the now more developt blockaid or then a small steth ship with a cloacing devive aniken is left on couresant but r2 gets to go&the pilot gets killed r2 is ok and aniken put atrasmiter in him
smartass250 1 month ago
the destoction of the mother ship only stops them from calling more droid on the gungens when the visero are captured there orderd to call off the droid on the gungens.the number1reason quigon in this story obi just pownds him&cuts throught his duble lightsaber&him in hafe
smartass250 1 month ago
why do all the related videos have titles of not looking at tits and thumbnails of HUGE TITS?
ladawg81 1 month ago 3
I miss the old Lucas...
TheRevivalMovies 1 month ago
@starwarsagent based on facts? yes
v3teran 1 month ago
What the fuck is wrong with Jorge Lucas?
08Cheeseits 1 month ago
oh god. 9:40 and he makes the 3D version of this shitty movie?
lol
NoobHero000 1 month ago
OMG, THE WAY YOU DISCUSS THE CHARACTERS(fight scenes and emotions)
Bravo, just straight up Bravo, love it
bretthicksomega 1 month ago
6:00 to the end is one of the most important and substantial points that redlettermedia has ever made. It strikes the very core at what is right about the Star Wars originals and wrong with the new trilogy; not trivial things like Jar Jar, "older is always better", or the visuals, but the heart of the story and the characters therein. In its ultimate simplicity, the originals have a heart to their stories. Their successors... well, they don't. Like or dislike any of the six of them from there.
Geekus 1 month ago
The kids love sword fights, and Lucas loves the money in the kids' mother's pocket.
Dostwyn 1 month ago
What the hell is the point of those rayshields at 5:10? I understand it's a plot device to separate Obi-Wan from Jinn and Darth Maul, but there has to be a real life application.
daggerhell99 1 month ago
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Your reviews are simply based on lucas bashing..please stab urself with a lightsaber.
starwarsagent 1 month ago
The greatest review ever, I actually hate the movie even more now ( which I thought would be impossible ). I salute you sir.
tangymilk 1 month ago 4
@9:40 ... What the fuck happened...
Evenflowist314 1 month ago
Just came back from watching all 7 parts of the Phantom Menace...Never have I laughed so hard in my entire life!
arsenalrulez1000 1 month ago