Everyone who is hating on this video has n clue what they are talking about or listening to. As a new banjo player, I understand how hard it would be to play this, but to WRITE IT TO A METAL BEAT is nothing short of genius. Some people don't even realize banjo metal exists...
@LiNaK37 idk about that one. If the guitar was any louder you wouldn't hear the banjo. Kick drum is always really loud in metal, plus the 1 - 2 beat helps the bluegrass aspect shine threw. If the bass was the only thing doing it, it would just be straight up rock rather than bluegrass.
@TheARDENWOOD IDK, maybe it's just my speakers. But the production just makes it sound a little... generic... not saying the concept is generic, just the way it [the production] sounds.
Very cool, different sound! One of my favorite subgenres is folk metal. Check out the song Stone Cold Metal by Ensiferum. They have a banjo solo at 6:05. I will admit, it's not even close to long enough.
Alot of band from Scandinavia mix folk stylings with heavy metal making for sweet blends. Another band to check out is Amorphis.
@ARKaraoke85 That doesn't sound like a real banjo, but even if it is its Celtic style playing. Playing that type of banjo is just as easy as guitar because you only use the one pick and don't have to worry about more than one note at a time usually.
Bluegrass style banjo is all about the rolls. Thats what makes bluegrass sound "bluegrass" vs celtic or something else.
now here is a man after my own heart! i too play the banjo and have experimented with many styles. if you want to play a tune in E, why don't you then, like the late great john hartford did in his many solo acts? as for melodic metal, finntroll occasionally uses banjo synths in their tunes like:
Försvinn du som lyser
En Mäktig Här
and definately very melodic banjo rolls on the ending part of "Tomhet och Tystnad Härska" also Cult of Luna has used a guitar banjo on "And with her came the Birds"
also you could look up the dropkick murphys and flogging molly. i know it's an irish folk mix, but i think theyre fitting in the banjo quite well into their music, but mostly single notes. also look for volbeat or just play guitar to some banjo bluegrass tracks on youtube, thats what i've been doin
@jamahl everyone knows who dropkick and molly is. Dropkick is to sloppy for my tastes and only uses single notes which are easy to do on banjo. Molly is cool, but its also poppy and again single notes.
Yeah I play guitar with bluegrass tunes all the time, the problem is its impossible to find a banjo player willing to play that sort of mix. Plus who special can I be when EVERYONE plays guitar and sings.
@jamahl totally agree. Part of the reason is because the banjo sounds distant because I used a condenser mic rather than something like a SM57. That in contrast to an overly distorted guitar doesn't sound right. Its a SS amp which doesn't help. I'm gonna be getting a Mesa sometime. I think the distortion on that will blend a lot nicer because I can ease up the over drive. I think for this to really truely work, the distortion can't be as heavy.
@TheARDENWOOD sounds like you got serious plans :) i'm doin a style mix with my band too, austrian folk music and punkrock/metal/ska. look up "double tracking guitars", thats when you play the guitar in twice, once panned all left, once panned all to the right. makes the sound alot more open and the guitar "covers everything" in an awesome way instead of sounding like its standing behind the lead sound.
@jamahl Are you new to music or something? Garage Punk bands pan HARD left and right. For most professional music you don't pan any instrument FULLY. Rather you pan one guitar 50% to left and other guitar 50% to right. Clearly I have two guitars recorded and both are panned. Put on head phones and train your ears.
@TheARDENWOOD its a common trick to pan guitars hard left and right, i'm not kidding. its used in metal, punk and rock. usually you pan the rhytm guitars hard left and right and when you play a lead part just in the middle.
@jamahl No its not. When you listen to a CD with headphones and a guitar plays alone it sounds like the guitar is fully in one ear, but if you cover that ear you'll hear that the guitar is in the other one slightly. I went to school for this crap not to mention have recorded professionally in studios before. You don't hard pan. Its amateur to do so.
I'm being perfectly honest when I say this, I think this is the most brilliant use of a banjo I've ever heard. As a huge fan of folk metal, I find this to be just fantastic and would absolutely love to hear more.
@TheARDENWOOD okay, first of all, was there any shift to the pitch of the recording? Can you play along with the recording in real time and do the same thing you did while recording and have it sound in key? If so, you are not playing in the key of A. Period. Not debatable. It doesn't matter the genre, the key of A is the key of A. Now I'm curious.
@5stringmikey ya know, it could be debated actually. I think it's the key of F#minor, but you could play relative majors, which is very close to the key of A. The minors just "felt" better to me.
@5stringmikey No, no pitch shifting that I know of. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to play along to the drums. I didn't tune my banjo before hand, so I could be tuned lower. Idk, I just did what sounded right with the guitar. The guitar is in C standard.
@TheARDENWOOD hmmm. Thats interesting. Could you send me just the guitar file before you recorded the banjo? I'm interested in seeing if I could play along with it myself. I've seen you on BHO. So happens my one video on here is Kentucky Mandolin. /watch?v=nhwqt8koWRE
@5stringmikey Actually no I don't think I can lol. This is just a demo not a real recording, so after I get what I want out of it I delete it. Uncompressed audio files take up to much room. Yeah I did see your Kentucky Mandolin video, which actually was a song no one mentioned to me. Its def the kind of BG I like a lot. Forgot how noisy NY was. I'm from Upstate myself.
@5stringmikey I think I capo'd it at the 2nd fret....could have been the 3rd. I really don't remember. I have a kid so I don't have all the time in the world to record. When I get a chance I just do.
I do know it was a E chord, C Chord, and B Chord.
GOOD TRY OF music mixtures, interesting, keep going
91luluci 1 week ago
Btw. some folk metal bands use, though rarely, banjo. Such as Cruachan, Finntroll or Ensiferum.
AndrewDeer1 3 months ago
@AndrewDeer1
ya straight up man and they sound kick ass too (not that this is bad or anything)
aronthehun 2 months ago
omg, thumbs up. Very good, i like it
AndrewDeer1 3 months ago
raw talent right there, that shit was fucking badass, real nice like folk rock almost
GMSamuelRhine 4 months ago
God damit kinda like it. It's almost like Christian death metal two opposite ends of the spectrum. Oh yea I hate C D M.
redrum95432 4 months ago
Everyone who is hating on this video has n clue what they are talking about or listening to. As a new banjo player, I understand how hard it would be to play this, but to WRITE IT TO A METAL BEAT is nothing short of genius. Some people don't even realize banjo metal exists...
Ccountry8 6 months ago
Are you seriously playing a 5-string with a guitar pick?!?! shun.
guitardudebanjoman 6 months ago
@guitardudebanjoman in the pic yes, but the recording no.
TheARDENWOOD 6 months ago
Fuckin epic bro!!! I lov how u made two instruments that never meant to be together sound sooo good.... Keep rockin bro!!!
chobitsdemigod1993 6 months ago
Nice one, well done ;) Make it next time a bit more massive and I will double like it :D
MrJulianoRosa 6 months ago
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Uh, sorry. It just doesn't work. Try turning the guitar down.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 6 months ago
Where are the cymbals?
ShroomBead 7 months ago
@ShroomBead its only a closed highhat. I use fruity loops because I don't have a real drum set anymore. The cymbal sounds on FL are really annoying.
TheARDENWOOD 7 months ago
Plague meets cholera .-)
fortheloveoftunes 8 months ago
The rhythm sounds too soft/ light to be death metal...
skwisgaar16 8 months ago
The guitar is too quiet, and the kickdrum is too loud.
LiNaK37 9 months ago
@LiNaK37 idk about that one. If the guitar was any louder you wouldn't hear the banjo. Kick drum is always really loud in metal, plus the 1 - 2 beat helps the bluegrass aspect shine threw. If the bass was the only thing doing it, it would just be straight up rock rather than bluegrass.
TheARDENWOOD 9 months ago
@TheARDENWOOD IDK, maybe it's just my speakers. But the production just makes it sound a little... generic... not saying the concept is generic, just the way it [the production] sounds.
LiNaK37 9 months ago
I recently uploaded another demo better showing the proper bluegrass techniques.
TheARDENWOOD 10 months ago
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ARKaraoke85 10 months ago
Very cool, different sound! One of my favorite subgenres is folk metal. Check out the song Stone Cold Metal by Ensiferum. They have a banjo solo at 6:05. I will admit, it's not even close to long enough.
Alot of band from Scandinavia mix folk stylings with heavy metal making for sweet blends. Another band to check out is Amorphis.
ARKaraoke85 10 months ago
@ARKaraoke85 That doesn't sound like a real banjo, but even if it is its Celtic style playing. Playing that type of banjo is just as easy as guitar because you only use the one pick and don't have to worry about more than one note at a time usually.
Bluegrass style banjo is all about the rolls. Thats what makes bluegrass sound "bluegrass" vs celtic or something else.
TheARDENWOOD 10 months ago
now here is a man after my own heart! i too play the banjo and have experimented with many styles. if you want to play a tune in E, why don't you then, like the late great john hartford did in his many solo acts? as for melodic metal, finntroll occasionally uses banjo synths in their tunes like:
Försvinn du som lyser
En Mäktig Här
and definately very melodic banjo rolls on the ending part of "Tomhet och Tystnad Härska" also Cult of Luna has used a guitar banjo on "And with her came the Birds"
krimskrams 1 year ago
@krimskrams Not a fan of John Hartford. I tried tuning the banjo to E but it lost its banjo quality.
Finntrolls good.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
also you could look up the dropkick murphys and flogging molly. i know it's an irish folk mix, but i think theyre fitting in the banjo quite well into their music, but mostly single notes. also look for volbeat or just play guitar to some banjo bluegrass tracks on youtube, thats what i've been doin
jamahl 1 year ago
@jamahl everyone knows who dropkick and molly is. Dropkick is to sloppy for my tastes and only uses single notes which are easy to do on banjo. Molly is cool, but its also poppy and again single notes.
Yeah I play guitar with bluegrass tunes all the time, the problem is its impossible to find a banjo player willing to play that sort of mix. Plus who special can I be when EVERYONE plays guitar and sings.
TheARDENWOOD 11 months ago
@TheARDENWOOD
it's a pity i'm not where you at, otherwise i would love to give this a shot on my banjo! :(
krimskrams 10 months ago
i really like it, but the guitar sounds sounds a bit "outside of the mix", its still not connected to one sound. the idea is awesome
jamahl 1 year ago
@jamahl totally agree. Part of the reason is because the banjo sounds distant because I used a condenser mic rather than something like a SM57. That in contrast to an overly distorted guitar doesn't sound right. Its a SS amp which doesn't help. I'm gonna be getting a Mesa sometime. I think the distortion on that will blend a lot nicer because I can ease up the over drive. I think for this to really truely work, the distortion can't be as heavy.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
@TheARDENWOOD sounds like you got serious plans :) i'm doin a style mix with my band too, austrian folk music and punkrock/metal/ska. look up "double tracking guitars", thats when you play the guitar in twice, once panned all left, once panned all to the right. makes the sound alot more open and the guitar "covers everything" in an awesome way instead of sounding like its standing behind the lead sound.
jamahl 1 year ago
@jamahl Are you new to music or something? Garage Punk bands pan HARD left and right. For most professional music you don't pan any instrument FULLY. Rather you pan one guitar 50% to left and other guitar 50% to right. Clearly I have two guitars recorded and both are panned. Put on head phones and train your ears.
TheARDENWOOD 11 months ago
@TheARDENWOOD its a common trick to pan guitars hard left and right, i'm not kidding. its used in metal, punk and rock. usually you pan the rhytm guitars hard left and right and when you play a lead part just in the middle.
jamahl 11 months ago
@jamahl No its not. When you listen to a CD with headphones and a guitar plays alone it sounds like the guitar is fully in one ear, but if you cover that ear you'll hear that the guitar is in the other one slightly. I went to school for this crap not to mention have recorded professionally in studios before. You don't hard pan. Its amateur to do so.
TheARDENWOOD 11 months ago
Banjos are awesome!
pythonfromhell 1 year ago
I'm being perfectly honest when I say this, I think this is the most brilliant use of a banjo I've ever heard. As a huge fan of folk metal, I find this to be just fantastic and would absolutely love to hear more.
TheBloodRedX 1 year ago
@TheBloodRedX Oh there will be more...lots more. Banjo's difficult to translate to metal riffing, but I'm trying. Thanks.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
You might want to try a more banjo friendly key then F#minor, especially without a capo!!!!
5stringmikey 1 year ago
@5stringmikey I'm tuned in standard G in the key of A.
I'm not playing an F#.
This is the whole problem with figuring out how to get MDM to mix with bluegrass banjo. The particular notes and keys used in metal are rare in BG.
I am working on another song thats in G tuning no capo, using mostly the open G chord like in most BG.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
@TheARDENWOOD okay, first of all, was there any shift to the pitch of the recording? Can you play along with the recording in real time and do the same thing you did while recording and have it sound in key? If so, you are not playing in the key of A. Period. Not debatable. It doesn't matter the genre, the key of A is the key of A. Now I'm curious.
5stringmikey 1 year ago
@5stringmikey ya know, it could be debated actually. I think it's the key of F#minor, but you could play relative majors, which is very close to the key of A. The minors just "felt" better to me.
5stringmikey 1 year ago
@5stringmikey No, no pitch shifting that I know of. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to play along to the drums. I didn't tune my banjo before hand, so I could be tuned lower. Idk, I just did what sounded right with the guitar. The guitar is in C standard.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
@TheARDENWOOD hmmm. Thats interesting. Could you send me just the guitar file before you recorded the banjo? I'm interested in seeing if I could play along with it myself. I've seen you on BHO. So happens my one video on here is Kentucky Mandolin. /watch?v=nhwqt8koWRE
5stringmikey 1 year ago
@5stringmikey Actually no I don't think I can lol. This is just a demo not a real recording, so after I get what I want out of it I delete it. Uncompressed audio files take up to much room. Yeah I did see your Kentucky Mandolin video, which actually was a song no one mentioned to me. Its def the kind of BG I like a lot. Forgot how noisy NY was. I'm from Upstate myself.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
@5stringmikey I think I capo'd it at the 2nd fret....could have been the 3rd. I really don't remember. I have a kid so I don't have all the time in the world to record. When I get a chance I just do.
I do know it was a E chord, C Chord, and B Chord.
TheARDENWOOD 1 year ago
i like , what's you're doing .
i'll start banjo soon and i'll give it a try .
jean19160 1 year ago