nonduality isn't a denial of the self, its not a validation of the self either. Nonduality is a word used to point to the actual nature of thought. Thought is imagination and can be nothing else. Taking thought to be more than thought is the "problem". just made my first vid check it out "nonduality and belief".
do you think NON-DUALISTS will still be able to 'get' the humour of the clip below.........and might it even shock them back into selfhood? ive had to break the link into bits....just cut-n-paste to reassemble it, and you should see a clip called advaita trap 1 with a teddy bear image in the clip. hope you enjoy the clip! . . . ht tp://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=4KXidr0z1RY . . .
I'm glad Tony's isn't the only message out there, but I like that he's a part of the spiritual landscape. I could see him as a character in feudal Japan, moving from zendo to zendo ferociously attacking the foundations of mind in much the same way he does now.
Hi Tony! More free videos please? I can't attend your meetings for now because I'm from the Phlippines, but I bought 2 books of yours already - THE OPEN SECRET and ALL THERE IS. Thank you!
I agree with you, Timhollis. There is no more room for excuses. This is IT. The end of the search is here, now, always. The end of flitting from one thing to another: partner, matter, religion, spiritual guru, drug, etc. etc.. The end of the road is here.
This style of teaching encounters the clumsiness of language. "Nothing is thinking, nothing is happening, this is it, this is apparently happening, we all become sure we are separate individuals." What???? He is still selling this like it's some commodity that you can have by understanding his ideas. He gives these workshops. This is an interesting happening.
The separate self is not just something we "learn" or the result of conditioning. It's also a crucial, some might say necessary, developmental stage. And it isn't diametrically opposed to The One or a non-dual experienced of reality. The 'self' is still an expression of The One and expresses The One. "There's no one here" is a bit of a mind game. Clearly, there IS someone there. He answers to the name Tony Parsons, has a certain speaking style and infectious laughter, has moods & thoughts.
Further to my comment below; first person plural generalisations are abstract constructs, understandings to be inhabited by consciousness as an abstracted version, as an interpretation. However 'true' the interpretation is to the listener - according to how much they identify with what is being said - this far, in the 'we', it is the experience of duality that is being relayed, not undermined. This way of speaking instantiates and primely examples duality.
'Is' is said a lot in this video, but the meaning of 'is' is never explained.
'We' and 'we all' are often repeated, Whose experience is being generalised? I don't believe it is true to say things like, 'we all...'; 'We all are conditioned into experiencing an individual self...' etc. Such statements are usually untrue. 'A lot of people..' might be more accurate. As it is, this is inauthentic, not owned or relativised; the reactionary projection of WASP experience as universal, again. Naive.
@swingtrade2 No one exist, all is a virtual projection from emptiness. Read the latest book by Stephen Hawking, THE GRAN DESIGN, he explains how this and thousands of millions of other universes are apparently projected by quantum forces. I am sure you will able to understand that book.
1. I am not quite sure how the thought of a necessity and being thus taught by Mom and Dad (like paying your rent if you want to avoid freezing on the street, or wearing a shirt - as he does) depends on the idea of separateness. I was never taught to feel separate by all those institutions, I was already born because of it.
2. Methinks he unecessarily reduces the term "Guru" to "teacher of traditional religion or yoga".
If there are no people looking at the cat. He still excists but without a name. Cats don't give themselves names. Why should they ? Onley people do those silly things. Is the cat living without a name, given to him by man, an inferior cat ? I don 't think so. He still acts like he did before. But now he is an animal without the name cat. So there is no cat anymore.
Look the same way to your ego. Your name and what you think you are. All words. Nothing more.
I have a question - I've read most of Tony's books, and find them very clear on the topic. However, somewhere he says that if there were no people on earth anymore, there would be no cats, no trees... etc. I don't understand this... Does anyone of you? kind regards!
Cats don't call themselves cats. They just excists like what we call cat. Onley people give names to everything . Even to themselves. Are cats less cat without that name cat ? Are you less your self without your name ?
no one on these posted messages could say or write anything that wasn't supposed to be said or uttered - it was supposed to happen and is integrated part of EVERYTHING. Al these words - just a noice, arising stories, appearing here as something showing itself as individual thought...
Not everyone is prepared for this. For those who are it is clear and marvelously to the point. This teaching is for people on the brink, where hesitation or postponement act as the last barriers.
For those not on the brink, take heed for the time when you are.
What happens naturally (breathing,seeing etc) and what happens after you learn them from GURU (or book etc) are very different!
It may look same but they are not! We are living a world, where all natural instincts die automaticaly because of way we are brought up and the way we live. Thats why it is good to learn back what we lost to regain same conciousness with we came to this world on 1st day.
I dont know but maybe the more you want it and hanker and hunger for it the more likely it is working its way toward you. You can't do anything to help because a picture can't act.
are we not a matter ? solid, liquid, why cant we just be and thats ok, its within ourselfs, the thing is I get alot of what those words translate into.
Unfortunately, Parsons has nothing (his favorite word!) interesting, useful or novel to say, but it is very clear that he desires to portray himself as a latter day Diogenes, presumably complete with bathtub...
When the message is really heard, there is no one to judge "this man" ... aliveness is and that is all that is being pointed to! There is no "tony" and no seeker and no teacher. Who does not hear this?
Perhaps it would be better if Mr Parsons did not exist, since nothingness apparently defines his 'teaching'! However, Parson's crude solipsism and facile Buddhism is patently false from almost any rational perspective. Moreover, since he is busy manufacturing lunatics and no doubt making a good living in the process, a general health warning is in order.
Parsons philosophy is lazy, facile, simplistic and in the end an intellectual cop out. The ego and Dualism play their own roles within the evolutionary scale of consciousness - Aurobindo spent his lifes work on this - more than Mr Parsons 2 hrs of "thinking". Ha! What a joke!
I do not like this man. He has an odor of "I'm the only one that can help you" even though he says "he" can help NOBODY...but that's the catch. "Nobody else but tony parsons can help nobody." The flavor of nondual oneupsmanship ruins a message that might be valid. another example of this is ug krishnamurti.
Very true, but it seems you have offended those who adore vacuous and patently false solipsism. Well, let's make it clear - Parson's terminology is subjective, unsystematic, pretentious and of course borrowed from Buddhism. Oh I was forgetting, it's called the New Age!
He says: Seeing happens, hearing happens but not to anyone.What this means, seems to me,is that there is a moment of seeing and then a moment of ego feeling. Ego does not see and can't see--it's a feeling-- but it gets associated with seeing--casts its' shadow over seeing--and the effect is the feeling "I see."
Well Taumm, Tony is telling that, that feeling you credit to the ego is really the Being. Tony is saying that the ego is completely false and a creation of thought or mind. Whatever feelings you get, Tony says belongs to the Being or what he likes to call the BELOVED and not to the 'ego" or the character called Taumm which is not real but only apparent. But as you have said, ego gets itself associated with the thought of seing after the fact and says, I saw.
nonduality isn't a denial of the self, its not a validation of the self either. Nonduality is a word used to point to the actual nature of thought. Thought is imagination and can be nothing else. Taking thought to be more than thought is the "problem". just made my first vid check it out "nonduality and belief".
claytonfairn 2 months ago
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talkinghead22 6 months ago
catveezle 6 months ago
I'm glad Tony's isn't the only message out there, but I like that he's a part of the spiritual landscape. I could see him as a character in feudal Japan, moving from zendo to zendo ferociously attacking the foundations of mind in much the same way he does now.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
Hi Tony! More free videos please? I can't attend your meetings for now because I'm from the Phlippines, but I bought 2 books of yours already - THE OPEN SECRET and ALL THERE IS. Thank you!
reycafe1 8 months ago
Lets hope that someone subtitles Tony´s videos into spanish and german. His message is too important to be keep in just English.
acuaman42 10 months ago
I love this man
1alopezg 10 months ago
nobody is commenting here....:) yep
GeorgeGogle 11 months ago
This is the highest teaching in the world available currently. Great! Thanks.
GeorgeGogle 11 months ago
I agree with you, Timhollis. There is no more room for excuses. This is IT. The end of the search is here, now, always. The end of flitting from one thing to another: partner, matter, religion, spiritual guru, drug, etc. etc.. The end of the road is here.
noself512 1 year ago
what exists sees that you don't.
donlarsennn 1 year ago
This style of teaching encounters the clumsiness of language. "Nothing is thinking, nothing is happening, this is it, this is apparently happening, we all become sure we are separate individuals." What???? He is still selling this like it's some commodity that you can have by understanding his ideas. He gives these workshops. This is an interesting happening.
nowbellhere 1 year ago
The separate self is not just something we "learn" or the result of conditioning. It's also a crucial, some might say necessary, developmental stage. And it isn't diametrically opposed to The One or a non-dual experienced of reality. The 'self' is still an expression of The One and expresses The One. "There's no one here" is a bit of a mind game. Clearly, there IS someone there. He answers to the name Tony Parsons, has a certain speaking style and infectious laughter, has moods & thoughts.
ShunyamNiketana 1 year ago
any description of the universe that leaves out an "observer" (however defined) is incomplete.
hvncb 1 year ago
Further to my comment below; first person plural generalisations are abstract constructs, understandings to be inhabited by consciousness as an abstracted version, as an interpretation. However 'true' the interpretation is to the listener - according to how much they identify with what is being said - this far, in the 'we', it is the experience of duality that is being relayed, not undermined. This way of speaking instantiates and primely examples duality.
MotionlessArrival 1 year ago
'Is' is said a lot in this video, but the meaning of 'is' is never explained.
'We' and 'we all' are often repeated, Whose experience is being generalised? I don't believe it is true to say things like, 'we all...'; 'We all are conditioned into experiencing an individual self...' etc. Such statements are usually untrue. 'A lot of people..' might be more accurate. As it is, this is inauthentic, not owned or relativised; the reactionary projection of WASP experience as universal, again. Naive.
MotionlessArrival 1 year ago
@MotionlessArrival "the meaning of 'is' is never explained."
What?!?! Who do you think you are, Bill Clinton? Intellectual BS!
suavedave69 1 year ago
so, what exists?
swingtrade2 1 year ago
@swingtrade2 No one exist, all is a virtual projection from emptiness. Read the latest book by Stephen Hawking, THE GRAN DESIGN, he explains how this and thousands of millions of other universes are apparently projected by quantum forces. I am sure you will able to understand that book.
Good luck.
acuaman42 10 months ago
1. I am not quite sure how the thought of a necessity and being thus taught by Mom and Dad (like paying your rent if you want to avoid freezing on the street, or wearing a shirt - as he does) depends on the idea of separateness. I was never taught to feel separate by all those institutions, I was already born because of it.
2. Methinks he unecessarily reduces the term "Guru" to "teacher of traditional religion or yoga".
LooksAeterna 1 year ago
Thanks Tony
jimcrich 1 year ago
@haldor72 -- Tony doesn't charge and see people -- 'charging and seeing people' is happening.
Rhea303 1 year ago
If there are no people looking at the cat. He still excists but without a name. Cats don't give themselves names. Why should they ? Onley people do those silly things. Is the cat living without a name, given to him by man, an inferior cat ? I don 't think so. He still acts like he did before. But now he is an animal without the name cat. So there is no cat anymore.
Look the same way to your ego. Your name and what you think you are. All words. Nothing more.
henoch66 1 year ago
@henoch66 Hi henoch, thanks for the answer... This makes it very clear!
VonFleckenstein 1 year ago
Ever heard of Shrodinger's Cat?
- The cat both does and doesn't exist until you look at it .
'Things' appear to exist while they are experienced.
When sleep happens and there is a return to source:
every thing ceases to be - the cats - the trees - the room etc.
Then suddenly here it is again? - All there is is this day, but really all there is is this moment.
peterbunzlfilms 1 year ago
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truthbeyondbelief 1 year ago
I have a question - I've read most of Tony's books, and find them very clear on the topic. However, somewhere he says that if there were no people on earth anymore, there would be no cats, no trees... etc. I don't understand this... Does anyone of you? kind regards!
VonFleckenstein 1 year ago
Cats don't call themselves cats. They just excists like what we call cat. Onley people give names to everything . Even to themselves. Are cats less cat without that name cat ? Are you less your self without your name ?
henoch66 1 year ago
@henoch66 Hi, thanks for the answer! This makes it clear to me!
VonFleckenstein 1 year ago
@VonFleckenstein becuase anything mentioned is an idea and therefore does not exist.
swingtrade2 1 year ago
Fabulous!!!
truthbeyondbelief 1 year ago
No because then there is still a "person" making no effort. X
funkycraig 1 year ago
its called conditioning through parents teachers ect ect noones to blame
gefftom 2 years ago
no one on these posted messages could say or write anything that wasn't supposed to be said or uttered - it was supposed to happen and is integrated part of EVERYTHING. Al these words - just a noice, arising stories, appearing here as something showing itself as individual thought...
NonEvernoThing 2 years ago
you are just copying what he says, parrot. < that was suppose to happen to!
zarglox 2 years ago
simply excellent,...
thismoment23 2 years ago
For true freedom lack of understanding must be total
nicholaspowiull 2 years ago
Not everyone is prepared for this. For those who are it is clear and marvelously to the point. This teaching is for people on the brink, where hesitation or postponement act as the last barriers.
For those not on the brink, take heed for the time when you are.
timhollis2870 3 years ago 13
What happens naturally (breathing,seeing etc) and what happens after you learn them from GURU (or book etc) are very different!
It may look same but they are not! We are living a world, where all natural instincts die automaticaly because of way we are brought up and the way we live. Thats why it is good to learn back what we lost to regain same conciousness with we came to this world on 1st day.
314159265352 3 years ago
I am the saucer and the Source
Of ALL THAT IS -- right NOW, of course...
I hope I've made it very clear,
That you're the one who isn't here.
So when we meet along the way,
Don't even try to say G'day!"
~ Ann Faraday
dpmduran 3 years ago 4
What is a thought? where do thoughts come from? can they be created? Who then is the one creating them?
dayv70s 3 years ago
Thoughts are just oneness, thoughting. They arise spontaneously. No one thinks, there never has been anyone to think a thought.
ungabunga920 3 years ago 2
In another Youtube posting w/Tony, he says:
"Thought isn't enemy. It's aliveness thinking... No one is thinking....Thinking is happening. There is nothing wrong with thinking." ~ Tony Parsons
nwfreed 3 years ago 13
I dont know but maybe the more you want it and hanker and hunger for it the more likely it is working its way toward you. You can't do anything to help because a picture can't act.
jesuisravi 3 years ago
are we not a matter ? solid, liquid, why cant we just be and thats ok, its within ourselfs, the thing is I get alot of what those words translate into.
708060 4 years ago
you kids are funny. this is all about what is left of us outside conceptual thought. thinking of great arguments is missing the point entirely.
damiongoodpaster 4 years ago
The ordinary.
fjanton83 4 years ago
A flake or a fraud or both. Well, obviously a flake.
Mokkor 4 years ago
Bullshit. That's a mind not hearing the message.
charlesdavidhayes 4 years ago
Unfortunately, Parsons has nothing (his favorite word!) interesting, useful or novel to say, but it is very clear that he desires to portray himself as a latter day Diogenes, presumably complete with bathtub...
Mokkor 4 years ago
WHO IS MAKING THAT ASSESSMENT ?
billyjo1881 4 years ago
a body that calls hitself tony parsons, nothing more.
peacepalace 3 years ago
When the message is really heard, there is no one to judge "this man" ... aliveness is and that is all that is being pointed to! There is no "tony" and no seeker and no teacher. Who does not hear this?
charlesdavidhayes 4 years ago
true, my friend. but judging has happened nevertheless, and what was judged is visible at the top of this screen :)
Let the parrot sleep. Beating his head on the counter won't help! This parrot is dead. I demand a refund.
frozenparrot 4 years ago
Perhaps it would be better if Mr Parsons did not exist, since nothingness apparently defines his 'teaching'! However, Parson's crude solipsism and facile Buddhism is patently false from almost any rational perspective. Moreover, since he is busy manufacturing lunatics and no doubt making a good living in the process, a general health warning is in order.
Mokkor 4 years ago
Parsons philosophy is lazy, facile, simplistic and in the end an intellectual cop out. The ego and Dualism play their own roles within the evolutionary scale of consciousness - Aurobindo spent his lifes work on this - more than Mr Parsons 2 hrs of "thinking". Ha! What a joke!
simptoon 4 years ago 2
My thought frozenparrot is that you are a dope
jbrandonvalentine 4 years ago
I do not like this man. He has an odor of "I'm the only one that can help you" even though he says "he" can help NOBODY...but that's the catch. "Nobody else but tony parsons can help nobody." The flavor of nondual oneupsmanship ruins a message that might be valid. another example of this is ug krishnamurti.
frozenparrot 4 years ago
Very true, but it seems you have offended those who adore vacuous and patently false solipsism. Well, let's make it clear - Parson's terminology is subjective, unsystematic, pretentious and of course borrowed from Buddhism. Oh I was forgetting, it's called the New Age!
Mokkor 4 years ago
He says: Seeing happens, hearing happens but not to anyone.What this means, seems to me,is that there is a moment of seeing and then a moment of ego feeling. Ego does not see and can't see--it's a feeling-- but it gets associated with seeing--casts its' shadow over seeing--and the effect is the feeling "I see."
taumm 4 years ago
Well Taumm, Tony is telling that, that feeling you credit to the ego is really the Being. Tony is saying that the ego is completely false and a creation of thought or mind. Whatever feelings you get, Tony says belongs to the Being or what he likes to call the BELOVED and not to the 'ego" or the character called Taumm which is not real but only apparent. But as you have said, ego gets itself associated with the thought of seing after the fact and says, I saw.
pratyah 4 years ago
I did not say that ego had feelings--you are right, it has none--but that it is a feeling itself--the "I" sense. Jesuisravi--aka Tauum
jesuisravi 4 years ago
So helpful. Thanks Tony.
meenakshimammi 5 years ago