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  • I love when morons argue online. They sound like children.

  • New poll, 62% of Doctor's are for a public option, 10% prefer single payer.

    Only the Cracker Nation and Insurance companies like the status quo.

    Crazy stuff.

  • Doesn't this guy look like an old aging lesiban? He was never concerned about the 7 trillion BUSH added to the 4 trillion we already had when Bush took office. Most of that 4 trillion came from Daddy and Reagan. If you remember Clinton left with a surplus. That burned a hole in W pocket so he gave that to his rich friends. Everytime the GOP screws up the dems come back to clean up the mess and get blamed for the whole thing.

  • Graham is just using the Nazi tactic of repeating a lie over and over again with the false hope that American's will believe him. The public option is far from dead. In the end Obama will lose the 1 Republican Senate vote to keep the 100 plus Dem congressman votes that insist on the public option.

    The GOP doesn't even want the unacceptable options of a co opt and the trigger that won't trigger, so what's the point of working with them? They'll whine like bitches no matter what.

  • republicans the true evil in this country.

  • Joe spoke the truth. Obama is just another lying millionaire, like the last President. Get over it. He's just another elitist that knows what's best for all of us poor un-Ivy-leagued educated laborers. He was like a 5 year old kid with a Christmas wish-list the other night. He's selling political Pixie Stix to all the socialist whack-jobs that want to be taken care of by the government. Sheep go to the knacker-man....

  • Of course he's going to insult the opponent to his plans and then say that his friend should be left alone.

  • 8 years*

  • I love how conservatives call Obama a "Commie Fascist". Seems to make a lot of sense, no?  Try learning what a socialist is before u call somebody it.

  • I've tried for a LONG time to stay objective, and to stay nonpartisan and unbiased. but let's just fucking face it: republicans are full of shit.

  • isnt lindsey a girl's name?

    how long till the git-r-done politics are revealed to be too backwards? when will conservatives realize that we can not live like we did in the 1950's? why do so many people dislike a president that offers hope to so many but refused to dislike a certain former president that should be tried as a war criminal? where was the anger and outrage at g.w. bush?

  • Its a good thing the public option is OPTIONAL... whats to fear.. if people dont like it they dont have to use it... the only reason repubs dont want it is because then the private insurance has a competitor and they cant fix prices themselves

  • graham is a sniveler

  • lindsey is a pathetic piece of shit who really ought to grow a brain.

  • "85% of people with private health insurance like their health insurance and they know the public option will put private health care out of business"

    if most people like their insurance already meaning they WONT jump ship to the public option then how will the insurance companies go out of business? The public option is meant for the uninsured, not the people who are already satisfied.

  • LOL.

    less than 9 million are uninsured. The Spectator destroyed Obama's false numbers.

    Once you eliminate illegals, dependents, undeclared, and those who refuse medicaid, the # of uninsured drops from 47 million to 9 million.

    Watch HowTheWorldWorks demolish the HC liberal agenda.

    Pure insanity.

  • wow. talk about listening to one bias over another, and you're not much smarter for it.

  • why don't you think for yourself then take everything obama says at face value.

    you probably had no opinion of the health care industry until Obama told you how horrible it is. XD

  • I don't. Like any other politician, he puts the spin on things in his favor. But, at least, he's forcing this broken system out in the open to be debated and discussed, instead of pushing it under the carpet like some others do. And speaking of face value, aren't you bending over for the conservatives so they can have their way with your ass, with the fear of death panels, Nazism, communism, terrorist, un-American, nonsense they throw at Obama, or do you just moan with pleasure with each thrust

  • What broken system?

    Obama is trying to rewrite the Constitution and defile the most prosperous nation in the history of mankind!

    You are towing the liberal narrative that our country is somehow impaired and Obama is simply trying to correct it.

    The Dems have created this strawman assuming stifled voters would eat up the savior cult.

    Guess what? It worked. The stimulus pack failed, his policies toward Iran are failing, and the recent fiasco with Van Jones further proves his incompetence.

  • Rewrite the constitution? Man, that's some jacked up brainwashing going on there by the conservatives. Is cryboy Glen Beck your hero?

    What straw-man? You mean the one that Conservatives created to assuage their wounded image in the eyes of their devoted followers: the straw-man they created to vilify the other side to make themselves look better?

    I didn't realize that 9 months in office could fix everything from the last 8 years. Do you believe in magic that could wave it all away? I don't.

  • Exactly.

    Any attempt to enlighten the delusioned is met with scoff and Daily Show logic.

    Yes, the old evil conservatives...another strawman propped up by the failed Democratic party.

    Haha yes, 8 years of mess....right, and in 8 months Obama has set us back for 20 years.

    Obama spent more excessive money in 8 months than Bush did in 9 years.

    Obama makes Bush look like a fiscally hawk!

    Iraq war - 1 trillion over 8 years.

    Obama - 2.5 trillion, plus another trillion for HC. LOL!

  • that healthcare plan is for american people and developtment like people deserve, just like in all other civilised progressive countries. Free healthcare is good, american people dont understand that. they want to scare you with socialism and shit like that, most people dont even know what that means. wake up. Insurence companies are busting your balls.

  • nobody deserves health care. it is not in the constitution, nor is it mandated in federalism.

    and there is no such thing as "free healthcare." if by free you mean robbing the tax payers of a trillion dollars, and "hoping" the government will run things well.

    most progressive nations have higher levels of debt and much less freedom then we do. do u want us to be Europe? every man, woman, and child..dependent on the state.

    I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN WELFARE!

    Get a job.

  • Well, then, you better hurry up and catch up to the rest of us who are much more enlightened than you.

    So, you don't refute my argument about the straw-man propaganda the conservatives have created against the democrats? Or, perhaps your just that stupid?

    Bush propose the 700 billion bailout for the banks, and the bailout for the car companies, and Obama got stuck with the Bill without complaint. Gee, you suuure are dumb, if you don't remember that.

    And try close to 3 trillion under Bush

  • You're kidding right. The last man that held Obama's office is KNOWN and DOCUMENTED to have VIOLATED the Constitution over TWENTY FIVE times. It is so true that when you wingnuts point the finger there a four more pointing right back at you. Boo!

  • There is ro re-writing, nor any attempt at re-writing the Constitution. Where are your facts?

    If you believe this country is not impaired in one way or another, and is the absolute best it can possibly be, ever, you simply need to open you eyes and take a look around.

    The stimulus plan has been in effect less than 8 months. There is absolutely no way to determine whether or not it has failed yet. That is still to be determined.

  • speaking metaphorically vinny.

    Obama doesn't need to rewrite the Constitution. The average citizen knows little about the Constitution so the government can shit all over it but as long as they sugar-coat it with "hope and change" everything is honky dory.

    The stimulus plan has failed. If you actually read the Congressional reports, the agencies set up to supervise the spending have failed.

    Also, unemployment has passed 10%. Obama said the stimulus would prevent that from happeing!

    FAIL!

  • Ive known our health care industry has been in the shitter for at least 3 years now and have always wanted reform, preferably single payer.

  • Even if they are satisfied with the private insurers, if there is public option, then it will be a lot cheaper. Americans will switch to public option because it saves them money. It creates competition and the private insurers will lose their huge profit. Without a public option, the private insurers can charge however much they like because it is like a monopoly.

  • hahaha.......does anyone in South Carolina have any credibility left? Umm....no

  • Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money."

  • damn republicans. why don't you come up with something then? actually, don't. you'll just dig us a deeper hole.

  • You must be watching MSNBC official State news station. The Reps have a plan and a good one that would reform the system but the Democrats are too bought in by lawyers that make a mint tort cases....

  • It's thinking like your's that get socialists like Obama into office.

  • define socialist for me... I dont think you know what it is... then tell us why its so SCARY to you

  • Socialism is a economic theory in which the government has a more-than-average amount of control over the economy.

    You probably didn't know that yourself you stupid fucking nigger.

  • hahahah.. you dont know what the hell you are talking about

    socialism is an economic AND political theory that states that certain means of production or processes should be controled by the COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. to give you a brief list of things that are already socialised in america.... schools up to high school, the post office, police. firefighters, currency... and others..

    also im not black... so you might want to stop calling every one nigger just because they prove you wrong

  • You're a stupid cunt.

    And a nigger means an ignorant person. It's not limited to someone black of skin you fucking racist piece of shit.

  • haha once again you are a moron. nigger comes from negro. negro meaning black. its a racist term for black poeple. please go learn something about what an ignorant racist you are so I dont have to keep teaching what an ignorant racist you are.hahaha cant beleive you called me a nigger than accused me of being racist. you think it means ignorant person because,one, you are an ignorant person, and two, you are racist against blacks and think they are ignorant. which once again shows your ignorance

  • You're a fucking idiot. Nigger was a word long before it was used as a demeaning word towards African slaves. Go at least google something before you try to argue it you fucking nigger.

    Stop being a racist nigger you nigger. Lol.

  • yes it was a word before it was used in a racial way.. the word meant black...as i just said to you dumb ass, then they used a derivitive form of the word black (negro) to describe people of dark skin (nigger).. it never meant ignorant.. it meant black.. so stop using like a general insult when is a derogatory statement against people with dark skin..and only an ignorant moron would try and use it in any other way

  • No, it meant ignorant, as in "You are an ignorant nigger".

    Idiot.

  • What does a 17 year old high school drop out know anything politics and the economy. He doesn't even live in the real world. Ignorance is bliss. Just let him be; his stupidity amuses me.

  • Where do you get high school dropout from? You're a fucking idiot you know that. :3

  • Are you serious? Did you drop out of school? Clearly you did because you can't even spell right. A lot of things in this country are socialist, idiot.

  • You're a fucking idiot. I didn't misspell anything you fucking nigger.

  • Since you are too dumb to see, it's "yours." Get off the streets and do something productive. Don't reply to me again dumb shit.

  • Since you're a fucking idiot, the "yours" in that sentence was possessive. It's not a common grammar use for the word "yours" but it is a valid use. Fucking idiot.

  • This may help you. ww w.elearnenglishlanguage.c om/difficulties/yours.h tml. Good luck hobo.

  • This may help you. ww w.letmegooglethatforyou.c om/?q=how+can+i+stop+being+a+f­ucking+retarded+nigger

    Good luck shithead.

  • fuckkkkkkkkfoxxxx newssssss

  • Whats the site to the actual official healthcare reform bill?

  • lindsey graham cracker why are you so concerned about the budget now your part responsible for all the lives and money wasted in iraq. Oh by the way there is a white sheet sale at kmart this saturday. buy one get one free! Eye holes not included. Eric canter needs to stick that blackberry up his ass and text himself some brains what an idiot. Is joe wilson the one from denis the menace? ''MR WILSON'' Sure linsey joe's a good man when he has something packed in your ass!

  • Republicans are going to provide ZERO votes for health care anyway, so why are we even talking to them?

  • how much money he is getting from lobby

  • South Carolina has many respectable people, but I must agree that it has some of the most hard-core racists in the county & Joe Wilson is a good example of KKK thinking.

  • Does anyone know about great amount of racism history in South Carolina so do research!!!

    LOL good grief its actually big disaster day for REPUBLIKKK Party!!

  • hell yeah the deficit matters you asswipes created it.

    were in the hole as a result of your crapass leadership.

    the republican party had no domestic agenda before and they sure as hell dont have or want to be a part of one now,

    the gop is losing it's grip on their piece of gov and it's showing.

    this is the party that keeps using the words scared,fearful,worried,passion­ate,desperate

    all the same words used against the counrty for eight miserable yrs.

    but no new ideas........at all.

  • Oh, what a surprise, a white southern senator who doesn't like Obama. Hmmmm, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he hails from the most backwards, racist, confederate state in the country.

  • Good grief

  • obama lied as joe wilson said cause they tried to put in amendments to make illegals prove they were citizens with verificiation and they were struck down. so that means they could be included in the health care. now that the dems got caught they are considering the amendments. he lies constantly. do your research. it takes time and work but is worth it. he has lied over and over . not a good example

  • I did my research mommalu2614. The Republicans wished to include a measure that would make EVERYONE prove citizenship before they were able to purchase health care insurance from ANYONE. If you wanted health care insurance from a private company, you'd have to prove to them that you were a U.S. citizen.

    What other products do you have to show your papers before you can purchase them privately? What happens if you get a heart attack. Will the hospitals ask for you papers before treatment?

  • Is everyone in South Carolina a racist douche?

  • No, but we have tons of ignorant people around here.

  • who cares what she thinks anyway?

  • its dead and obama lies

  • How do you know he lied? I'm an independent trying to figure out how you know someone lies when they haven't had a chance to do what they say they're going to do.

  • Dear Mr. Graham,

    Please STFU, you creepy looking ghoul.

    Signed,

    America

  • miss graham can suck my dick. the deficit only matters when we try to spend a little of our own money on the betterment of the people of this country, as opposed to the trillions always miraculously available to spend on the ludicrous war machine.

  • Changing the issue into a straw man argument may be effective rhetorically with those inclined to believe you in the first place, but it is a very poor argument to everyone else.

    Next time, try some actual points that are on issue and not this dodge.

  • Yeah, it's about freedom and that's why we need healthcare reform. We can't keep allowing ins co's to control our lives. Ins Co's own our government and we have to get rid of them so that we can have a healthcare system of the people, for the people, not for wall st share holders that have nothing to do with medicine. Private corporations have been taking over our government, it's time we take it back from dumbservative corporate abusive rule.

  • You, conservatives, are giving freedom a bad name. Freedom fries, freedom foods, war for oil profits means "to spread freedom", and now allowing the abuses committed by Ins Co's is somehow "freedom". Are you fucking serious? What is your definition of freedom? To take away individual rights and give those rights to corporations making billions in such a corrupt way as healthcare CEO's are doing right now? You know what, fuck you and your freedom fries, you stupid ignorant dumbservative.

  • Has Senator Graham given up his own government sponsored health care?

  • No he hasn't. I'm from SC and I can't stand him.

  • Old. Is there anyone young in the GOP anymore?  I have nothing against older folks, but there whole party is old. That's a recipe for disaster.

  • Grumpy

    Old

    People

  • So that's your benchmark? You must not be looking very well.

  • Lindsey GrahamNESTY is a tool!

  • Thats right it's dead, keeping saying that to yourselves GOP. Also death panels are being set up, John Galt has an Island off of Cuba, and Acorn invented a weather machine that caused Katrina. If you lie to yourself enough, does it really become a political movement?

  • i support the public option.

  • Keep saying it's dead. It's actually helping Democrats.

  • Affordable healthcare for all.We need healthcare reform now!

  • "accusing us of bickering"

    i wonder why..

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