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  • hahaha theres no cable!!

  • Thanks to Herb Alpert great talents like Wes were able to get some exposure to the masses.

    Liza was actually very cute at that age and she had her mothers voice for sure. Its great that most musicians and singers were color blind and were way ahead of the rest of society in their respect for minorities......their love of music and art etc was their bond.....beautiful.

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  • Wes was the man. No doubt. But having lived during this time I can firmly attest that "Shake a Puddin" sucked. Bleeccchhhh!

  • The man from Indianapolis rules!!!

  • what television shit

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  • I'm beginning to think I shouldn't have taken that 2nd hit of acid, man.....

  • that thumb!!!!

  • Wes was Chef not Liza

  • @potatoepeter1 Chef ?

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  • look at liza !she was wantin some bbc back then.

  • OMG !

  • Wes montgomery is my hero but my face was like "wtf???" while seeing this

  • Those same kids looked like flower children or soldiers 5 years later...except the one on the right, he was still shakin his puddin.

    okay, here it comes, get ready for, ''I'm the kid on the right''.

  • The dark side to the American Dream!

  • when ever I've mentioned shake a puddin to my kids they think I'm weird. Nice to have a proof source!

  • Why is everyone commenting on Liza's looks? She's singing, not modelling. Grow up.

  • Poor Wes. Success had a high price!

  • Wes was always smiling.And his music is such a joy.Not particularly fond of the pop songs he did but he had to pay the bills.Liza is almost good looking here.

  • @bobbyearl60

    Agree with you totally.bobby.

    As I posted below Lisa has a very beautiful face, its just her eyes were too far apart.

    But she didnt let it get in her way.

    That is a lesson we could all learn from, me included.

    Anyway through her we got to see a bit more of Wesley.

  • Horrible !!

  • Wes hanging out! Big Daddy! Wes is besTT

  • that commercial is priceless hahahahha

  • This was really the beginning of desegregation. They showed a Black, the great Wes Montgomery, an Italian Liza Minelli and an advertisement to mix everybody in the American pudding melting pot.

  • @JerusalemRocks It's pathetic that segregation was even an issue.

  • He's not even playing in the second tune.

  • Great tune and Wes is AMAZING..! The pride of INDIANAPOLIS!

  • Man his hands are huge !!

  • Never understood the appeal of Liza Minnelli

  • @pantoum

    She actually has a very beautiful face, its just unfortunate her eyes were so far apart.

    Bring the closer together and you will see she was, nearly a stunner.

  • omg horrible dancing kids XD

  • That 'Shake-a-puddin" kid on the far-right in the blue shirt is a fairy. Either that or he is Elvis with a box in his hands. LOL

    Wes, you're the greatest. It was always sad to see you play with the likes of Liza just so that you could feed your kids and family. But, you are remembered in death, and your legacy lives on in those few guitarists that remember your groove and phrasing. Keep swingin' baby; just like a pendulum on the off-beat.

  • thats wrong...

  • Oh, look at Liza!

  • Corny but classic, how can you not love it?

  • I like this! Wes, Liza, Herb, Burt - the 60's awash in talented people. Sure do miss it.

  • I was in a blues band in the 60's - listened to all the great players but wanted more 'music' than 5 bent notes. Sure, there is always at least a whiff of blues in all jazz but I never thought of Wes as a blues man - Burrell's playing was, for me, more bluesy. Like crop circles...hmm? allegedly made to put positive energy into the earth, my feeling is that - since all is vibration - good music does just that. Shamans know all about sound healing - I think musicians - at some level - do too.

  • hard not to think of Miranda Sings when I hear Liza now!

  • Wot the fuk Wes! Talk about casting pearls before swine... Jesus! I suppose you go where the money goes but I hate to see a musician of his calibre - world class -used in this way. But doesn't Wes remind you of Charlie Parker with his impish grin and air of 'this is all too easy, man!'

  • @zthetha George Benson said that Wes's commercial period was heavily criticised by purists BUT was the only time he saw Wes eat well , get rest and drive and nice car.

    Before that, Wes worked two day jobs and played clubs 'til 3 a.m.

  • @taildragger53 Yep - I can believe that. Something wrong somewhere though isn't there when the best creative talent on earth is neglected while the third and tenth rate flourish. Why is it, I wonder, that only the few have the intelligence and sensitivity to recognize true genius while the many happily swallow any old crap that is served up to them... or have I just answered my own question?

  • @zthetha Over the past 50 yrs i've noticed that most people are not serious listeners of music.(unless one is a musician)

    They just want a background noise! I dont mean this in an impolite way.

    Even Wes's wife, Serene, told him that she wouldn't buy his music and advised him to play "easier" stuff that one could dance to.

    The attention span required to listen to Coltrane's "Impressions" is beyond most people. I dont wish to sound smug though.

  • @taildragger53 Nothing smug about saying it the way it is, man.

  • @zthetha It's weird but i was just playing Wes's 1967 album "California Dreaming'..one that was slated by the critics.

    Inspite of the syrupy strings, corny tunes, his playing on "Sundown" "Sunny"and "Without You" completely sinks every other guitar player since '67!

    A friend of my father interviewed Wes in 1965 and throughout the interview he kept saying" Well, my problem is i dont play fast enough, i cant read music and guys like Howard Roberts are way ahead of me".

    100% modest.

  • @taildragger53: Wes was well-known for being his own worst critic, rejecting take after wonderful take in the studio, for example. I know a few people - jazz musicians - who have seen Wes - and to a person, they talk about how near-religious an experience it was - how utterly stunned they were at his level of talent and his power, up close, in a club setting.... the word "genius" gets used too much in music, but in the case of Wes, it was completely appropriate.

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961 My father had a friend in the UK called Ike Isaacs who interviewed Wes in 1965. During the interview Wes was self deprecating.

    Said "I can't play fast because i use my thumb..i cant read music so i'm inferior to most..i dont know many chord shapes like Howard Roberts"''

    Compare his words with most egotist guitar players who think they are GOD.

  • @taildragger53: You are absolutely correct. I love classic jazz and have played the great recordings, i.e. Erroll Garner, Trane, Wes, Parker, Miles, etc. for folks, and while some get it and dig it, others - well, their eyes just glaze over. I played a hauntingly beautiful Erroll Garner number for this one gal where I was working - a lab - and she said, "Oh, I buy shoes to that kind of music!" Yet, she thought Sting a musical genius...

  • @zthetha So, yes, you are right because most creative talent is wasted on either unappreciative ears or eyes. It's the reason why Van Gogh died penniless until someone found his controversial lifestory to be worth making some cash out of. THEN his paintings were fetching millions.

    We dont recognise talent until its gone.

  • @taildragger53 That's right - Van Gogh was only appreciated by a close circle of avant garde painters in his lifetime. His close friend Gauguin was in some ways the Miles Davis of his era, pushing art into entirely new realms with a single-minded determination - no matter what the cost. And that's what separates geniuses from the rest - they are not prepared to compromise, to become mediocre in order to be a mediocre success. in a mediocre world - whatever the cost to themselves.

  • @zthetha Oh yes, absolutely true. Geniuses are driven by an overwhelming passion. I'd even go as to add it's a spiritual connection, even though many are really tormented people.

    Wes was unique in that way because he was never in torment..always the coolest, sweetest guy.

    Alot like Kenny Burrell in that manner. And Kenny is another of my ultimate heroes.

  • @taildragger53 Amen to all the above! Kenny is one of my favourite guitarists too along with Tal Farlow and Jim Hall. 'Spiritual' is an odd word because of its religious and pseudo religious connotations but I know what you mean and in the absence of a more precise term it will suffice. Do you play guitar - I would guess so. I have just acquired an old Antoria jazz box on Ebay which is a remarkably good instrument - the one I play almost exclusively now.

  • @zthetha

    Apologies, "existential' might be another word more broad.

    I was just reading an interview where it mentioned Wes Montogomery being nicknamed "The Reverend" by Jimmy Smith because he was such a clean living guy.

    Oh yes, Tal & Hall are superb. I like most of the vintage players. Jimmy Ponder knew Wes personally and alot of the style rubbed off.

    Yes, i have played guitar since 1968. I used to own an Antoria folk guitar in 1969.

  • @taildragger53 Wes always looked like an innocent to me - like a highly gifted child just having fun and producing thew most evocative jazz guitar sound ever. I got his Boss Guitar album back in the sixties and simply couldn't believe what I was hearing. I don't know if he sounds dated to the modern generation but he always sounds fresh to my old ears. Words are strange nebulous things - e.g. 'soul' means different things to different people - music is a better mode of communication I think.

  • @zthetha There's that old saying "God respects a worker but he loves a singer(or musician)"..sort of led me to believe that there's a deeper thing going on with music, although i dont follow any fundamentalism. It's all according to if anyone has a feel for the ethereal. When most Jazz musicians die young the first thing most think is "Narcotics" but nobody imagines that a musician can actually overwork himself into the ground. Wes got about 2 hrs sleep, if that, for years.

  • @taildragger53 How sad that our culture doesnt support these great talents who offer us their extreme gifts....but yet we pay our athletes HUGE sums.....I dont think this is fair or morally right....that is why we need the govt to keep supporting and encouraging talented artists...so they can live better and keep doing what they do best...that would benefit us all. Keep the NEA strong....lets not waste our tax dollars on war...lets improve our culture thru peace and the arts.

  • @paulyrulo1

    Oh, absolutely true. .

    It's even worse when we realise that very few pro- athletes are substance free (LOL) ..but the Nationalistic element in every society has to be pampered above ALL else.

    But if we look we see that when cuts come it always affects the Arts projects and i think it's a lethal blow to creativity.

    But the age of innovators, like Wes, is way behind us now.

    What we have are copyists.

  • @zthetha I missed seeing Wes @ Ronnie Scott's in 1965. I was abit young but a big fan of Django, Wes, Christian.

    My father & his brother went to see Wes and said that the show opened with Ronnie Scott saying "We're not going to tell you how we got this man over in a plane..it's top secret, but we got him inspite of the fact that he has never flown this far before." Like Grant Green, Wes drove everywhere.

    Wes spoke highly of Gabor Szabo. He thought everybody was better than himself.

  • @zthetha I missed seeing Wes @ Ronnie Scott's in 1965. I was abit young but a big fan of Django, Wes, Christian.

    My father & his brother went to see Wes and said that the show opened with Ronnie Scott saying "We're not going to tell you how we got this man over in a plane..it's top secret, but we got him inspite of the fact that he has never flown this far before." Like Grant Green, Wes drove everywhere.

    Wes spoke highly of Gabor Szabo. He thought everybody was better than himself.

  • @zthetha To answer your question though. To me, Wes never sounds dated but his base is always The Blues in comparison to say Allan Holdsworth or the shredders.

    To listen to Wes one has to have a keen appreciation for Blues. Even his substitution phrases are Blues based.

    Do you recall the first few reviews of Wes' LP's where he was termed "just another BLUES guitarist?

    I still have the reviews.

    Wes laughed about it and sort of agreed but Adderley & Keepnews were enraged.

  • @taildragger53 That's hard to believe he was considered "just another blues guitarist" at one point. Maybe I just haven't heard the early recordings. It'd be interesting to see those reviews!

  • @funkyguitars

    Well, if you get the Wes  CD or LP "Guitar On The Go" the liner notes will prove my words are correct.

  • Wes got slagged some by the jazz purists when he started making more commercial music, but Wes had been wowing the jazz critics and club audiences for years without making a decent buck, and he a big family to feed so he made easy-listening pop records, while doing straight-ahead jazz gigs on the side. As far as Wes' early, jazz period music is concerned, his peers - and audiences - were floored at his talent. As one musician put it, "Wes has something only God can give a man..."

  • @taildragger53: Jazz, even the most advanced stuff, has to be rooted in the blues to make any sort of sense, at least that's my view. Having said that, guys at Wes' level (there are darned few of them, on any instrument) can do things with a blues that will turn you inside out. There's a lot of ways to "hot rod" the blues, and the great jazz players know all of them.

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961

    Oh yes, if we were to extract the blue notes from jazz i wonder what we'd be left with? Latin & classical tones that really wouldn't make much sense perhaps?

    It's only The Blues that gives it that special emotional feel and so many great artists like Ellington , Basie etc have said this. But there are many idiots who disagree with this.

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961 any music must utilise the pentatonic scale to make sense and use halfsteps and tritones to keep the that pentatonic from getting monotonous

  • @taildragger53: "Do you recall the first few reviews of Wes' LP's where he was termed "just another BLUES guitarist?" What idiot wrote that?

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961 I agree with every word.

    The mention of those early reviews is in the liner notes to the LP/CD"Guitar On The Go"". No names of the reviewers are given but apparently many in the jazz journals of that era failed to understand Wes''s talent.

    Yes, they called him "The Reverend" because of his clean living.

    There's a person on ytube who is a jazz journalist and says that Blues has very little connection to jazz.(LOL)

  • @taildragger53: I have been blessed to see and hear KB in performance a number of times over the years, and in addition to being one of the greatest jazz guitarists and musicians in the music, he is as fine a gentleman as you;d ever want to meet. The other all-time great whose jazz playing is filled with the blues was Howard Roberts. Another player who left us too soon.

  • @GeorgiaBoy1961 Howard had SOUL.

    Kenny Burrell has to be tone of he cleanest living musicians ever. Sophistication is his middle name. Martin Taylor says most people, sadly, haven't got appreciation for jazz, they haven't got the patience to listen to improvisation and would rather hear a simple melody, even from Kenny G.

    Not that much today is melodic.

  • @zthetha: I've asked myself those same questions many times; I wish I knew the answer.

  • LOL @ 1:53!

  • 不味そうなお菓子w

  • AAAAAaaccckkkkkk!!! Poor Wes.

  • Ha ha ha Herb Albert!

    Though I have to admit, I actually did like that ad for do-it-yourself pudding.

  • It's didn't matter what setting you put him in, he stilled shined.

  • Poor Wes he's not plugged in.He looks embarrased. thats Hollywood for ya.

  • Looks like a fun moment for Wes. What the heck he might as well "try and get his swerve on" with Liza too...

  • Is there any way that the Liza portions exist in their entirety and might be uploadable? I would SO love to see the entirety of her performance!

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